Since MGTOW ultimately wants to replace women with sexbots I’m curious about what you all would really choose and what you would deem morally acceptable in this hypothetical situation.
Let's imagine there are 2 competing companies. Both make absolutely lifelike waifubots. Indistinguishable from an actual human. Both waifubot versions can do basic household chores.
Waifubot A) You can have sex with it.
Waifubot B) You can't have sex with it but it has a perfect AI you can modify to to have the perfect personality. You can talk to it/her about anything, she provides company and compassion and is always there for you.
For the sake of this experiment let’s assume no modifications can be made.
if I upload my consciousness to a female body am I still male
Lucas Butler
As an older man hitting 40, sex with the same bitch gets boring within weeks any more. I'd take Bot2. Besides, she can still give me a handy, all while looking me in the eye and telling me exactly what she knows will get me off.
Cameron Johnson
Why would someone go through the trouble of making the arguably more advanced bot B, without the ability too have sex with?
Juan Thomas
>stop being so blackpilled user about my idea that I'm going to get a cybernetic waifu and ditch all those cranky biological women in my new future. Quit with the Skynet LARP.
Joseph Perry
Because I’m more interested in the reasoning behind why you would want it and for what purpose. Feminists will say you just want something to stick your dick into when you feel the mood, rape etc.
I have a feeling it’s something else entirely.
John Stewart
This user would bet all the MGTOWs making these threads are the same that donate their paychecks to sluts on twitch
>Both make absolutely lifelike waifubots. Indistinguishable from an actual human So A is B except B has a modifiable personality?
I'd rather not modify my waifubots personality. and if my waifubot is lifelike and indistinguishable from a human they will want to be able to be held by someone they love. And not want you to fuck with their personality. Actually that's kinda fucked up innit? If they're indistinguishable from humans they have their own personality and B you can just say haha no be exactly what I want instead.
Ethan Miller
Why do you have this idea that all women are feminists who hate men? That's kinda gay.
Brayden Hughes
i wish these retarded faggots would stop associating their ideology with sexbots
I just want to nut inside a 10/10 and have her love it, no politics are attached to that
Michael Cruz
Why do you think I think all women are feminists?
Nathaniel Peterson
Since I see this thread every day.
Angel Moore
When you select a long term mate you don’t just select for looks you select for personality. The question is asking, basically, if you found the perfect woman would you care if you couldn’t fuck her.
that's not the question, because these are robots. you can't program something to care about you or empathize with how you feel, you can only program it to simulate caring about you. at the end of the day, your entire relationship is fake. you've fallen in love with cleverbot
Luis Myers
If it’s something so well made you can’t tell it’s fake, would you care? Why?
anyone who picks B is either retarded or really shallow and doesn't care if their "love" is fake. it's disrespectful even to the idea of love. its no wonder you can't have a real relationship if you think this way, think about what you're doing. you have to have complete control over a persons brain or you can't have a relationship with them. that's fucked up
Evan Parker
The better comparison would be one with a personality you can't fuck and one without that you could.
basically a robot that has no purpose beyond sex doll or a early version of a simulated human. I would choose the humanlike robot in that case. but if it's just personality vs modifiable personality I'd choose personality because I wouldn't modify the seconds personality. so it's just do you want intimacy too or no intimacy and no bonus?
Brandon Morris
You’re clearly a woman but let me explain a bit further. As I’ve said when you select for a long term mate you look for a matching personality. The question is posed in a way of programming the bot at the point in which a real person has fallen in love with you. Yes, you don’t have to put in any work, but that’s not the point of the question.
The point is I’m curious what men would choose if sex was totally off the table. What would they choose? Would they choose instead to get the houseslave 9000 or [Insert name of your choosing] bot and feel something as close to love from something that resembles the female form.
I’m sure many of them that would choose option B have never truly felt that without the crippling fear and constant threat that female hypergamy presents.
Dominic Barnes
lmao I'm clearly a woman? That's so funny knowing the reality that I'm not.
All I'm saying is that B is obviously a shitty option, but I guess most people disagree based on the poll. That really says a lot about Jow Forums. To think you guys have the audacity to call other people npcs. Be careful not to insult your fake gf lmao. At least with A you can enjoy her body. With B all you get is more bullshit from life, literally bluepilled, npc nonsense.
Jason Ortiz
That you would feel anything from a program saying it cares about you is just sad
Fun fact. Jews will give sexbots human rights and a whole sexbot feminist movement. When these things become mainstream it won't be long until we're back to square 1. They did feminism the first time what makes you think they won't do it again?
in order of likelihood >we wont get there at all >it will be too expensive for anyone but the elite >jews will ruin it >it will be good
Eli Walker
Maybe. But outside of some grandstanding and moral fagging would argument do you have against it?
Ryan Scott
S O O N O O N
Jackson Sullivan
I'm just giving my opinion and happen to be a cunt by nature. To be honest, I would rather have A than a real girlfriend. I can empathize with your longing for companionship, I know how hard it is to find someone worth caring about, but I guess I'm just not the kind of person to enjoy substituting that feeling for lies. It just seems pointless. I'd rather have an A to slam out my frustration on. Through my dick
Levi Harris
>we wont get there at all AI is getting there, and being made for other purposes. Regardless said AI doesn't really need to be smart for sexbots, it's replacing women not men. >it will be too expensive for anyone but the elite Perhaps for the first few years. Though there probably will be some average folks who blow their life savings on one though. Eventually though the production technology will improve and costs will plummet just like any new technology. >jews will ruin it Jews would ruin it at the first opportunity they will get. This is as certain as the rising of the sun tomorrow. If they come out they will get human rights, then voting rights, then alimony and divorce, and we will be back at square one. >it will be good Probably the least likely thing on this list.
Brandon Rivera
If you can’t tell the difference is there one?
Liam Robinson
are you a gook by any chance
John Williams
>if you found the perfect woman would you care if you couldn’t fuck her. Yes.
I have a sex drive, and I want a woman to passionately love.
Jack Reyes
Whoite male.
Kayden Jenkins
you could always bring in other women and fuck them, just program it to not care.
If a legitimate human consciousness isn't important to you, even in the person you marry, then you're basically an honorary soulless chink.
Jace Price
I don't want to cuck a program like that, man. If I'm splurging on a waifu bot I want one I can fuck like a beast then cuddle with.
[spoiler]Artificail wombs when[/spoiler]
Anthony Bailey
And the difference between someone who only wants to fuck it then is...
Charles Sanchez
I'm not going to it for companionship that's the difference.
Gabriel Ramirez
B and it's not even close. Real women are incapable of real love. Sex without love is like a car with no wheels.
God damn everything has to be explained to you in such detail. I'm not treating it like a person. I see a female form which is naturally arousing to my male brain, and so I fuck it and satisfy myself sexually.
Brandon Robinson
>not looking for a girlfriend like christchan
but isn't it the journey and not the destination? why wallow in self-pity when she's simply out there waiting to be found by you, and vice versa
Lucas Taylor
That booty though my nigga
Justin Rodriguez
Thoughtless sexual perversion can also be argued as souless, could it not?
you're really grasping at straws with this. masturbating doesn't make you soulless
Adrian Taylor
Having a wife and kids would cost more
Brandon Hernandez
>buy both (you aren't some poor guy after going mgtow and not spending any money on woman right? >have both of them with same appearance >use bot A when horny and live happily with bot B
Evan Campbell
Men can do all of those and be better and more efficient at them, except ofc for having kids, but theyre a plenty of dumb hot sluts that'll be a surrogate for a few pretty pennies. Women are modern leeches of society. Theres a reason they were "oppressed" for the majority of our human history. Femnism is the biggest shit test of our time and we as a collective society have failed it miserably.
Dylan Sanders
"Sexual liberation" = enslavement to the Jews you fucking muh dick primitive niggers.
Aaron Ward
>You can't have sex with it Well, not with THAT attitude. If she's even vaguely humanoid form, I'd find a way to have sex with it. Believe me. Also, fuck 2B is pretty.
100% no to bot A since it could possibly end up being a furry with no way to change that fact
Samuel Martin
So, they have robots that can walk now, but when are they going to have robots that can walk in such a sexy manner? youtube.com/watch?v=KXQbMPXiXfs Also no wonder they added an option to blow off her skirt with all of the work they apparently put on animating her butt. youtube.com/watch?v=klR4rTdtP1Y
Colton Lopez
Two things wrong here, love doesn't just happen it grows over time. You will not love a waifu-bot unless you can both grow and learn about eachother over time, it's still just a chorebot even if it's programmed to love you. Second is that sex is part of a healthy relationship, cutting it out of the picture is just going to cause issues down the line, the same way not being able to have a good conversation with your partner will, so both options suck.
Cooper Green
>the amount of sheer roastie seethe ITT Lmao the day when men hunt your kind for sport alongside their loyal robowaifus isn't too far roastie
>Since MGTOW ultimately wants to replace women with sexbots MGTOW isn't a "here's the perfect society I want to build" idea. It's a term to describe the pattern of people trying to survive after realizing just how rigged the game is. Usually after already marrying someone they believed was trustworthy, and then having kids with them. Divorce makes it that much harder to be willfully blind to the situation.
Think of it more like a lifeboat you get into when a ship is going down than a ship you'd choose to get on if the situation was perfect.
that would be a compelling argument if someone else programmed the personality and not me. If I was involved with the development process then I would "know" the personality is not "genuine". The same thing occurs with movie special effects, the audience believes it to be real and cannot distinguish it from real, but the CGI artist will always see it as animation because they fucking drew that shit
Dylan Edwards
fpbp
Evan Cooper
Jesus fucking christ. Why is this absolutely degenerate bullshit even allowed on pol? How are sex dolls political...
If you can't find a woman who shares your values and loves you for who you are and whom you love in return, a sex doll will never, ever fill that void.
How the fuck, how the absolute fuck, do you all hope to save the white race when you're only interested in masturbating yourself with a sex doll. Absolutely unbelievable shit in this thread.
You don't think all of the "Disabilities" Jow Forums is using to claim neetbux will vanish overnight the moment they realise working 40 hours a week for a month is enough to buy a car or get a loan for one of these things? Fuck, move somewhere with a living minimum wage, earn $1k/week, rent a nice flat for you and your bot, put down a $1k downpayment for the bot, and pay off the rest over a year
Xavier Mitchell
men would not give a single fuck about women if not for sex
Benjamin Flores
Reposting for timeline: For fuck sake... As someone who actually knows a thing or two about mechatronics engineering, these threads are fucking annoying. Why? Because sexbots don't exist. They're not real. YET.
Realdolls are just rubber mannequins with vibrators and an animatronic head from disneyland stuck on
I'll say this early so you guys don't kill yourselves, I'm not saying there's no hope, I'm not saying it's not gonna happen, there is and it will. But this is like discussing which iPhone is better, the XS or XR, back 20 years ago. IT'S FUCKING IRRELEVANT, THE SHIT AIN'T EXIST YET BRO
>B-But what if roasties ban it???? Not gonna happen. The first bots aren't gonna be from "BIG RANDY'S BDSM-BOT EMPORNIUM", it's gonna be a spinoff of Yamaha or Toyota or someone softbank's bought coming out with a domestic helper robot, and someone either cloning it or they themselves making a shadow company disconnected from the main one, so their bigger brands don't get hurt, and releasing a "Companion-model" They'll sell for $30-100k, and will make Tesla's look like a fucking joke. They'll be clumsy, ditzy, heavy, but oh-so fucking cute, and will receive tens of thousands of orders on the first day.
So what's gonna happen? When?
The first thing that looks like what you want will be, designed by an auteur, not a big company, probably someone like (or literally) Tomotaka Takahashi, at robo-garage, maybe a Mark Tilden sorta guy. But there'll be a video posted to youtube of a clumsy looking thing, basically what Boston Dynamics has done, but in a smaller, anime-like frame. Don't expect a face. Drossel at best. Perhaps even in a 2B costume, because covered eyes actually totally avoid the uncanny valley. People will exploit the fuck out of this.
Anyway, most will think it's fake, until a second video gets uploaded of the bot with all its covers and clothes off.
Expect this video sometime before 2021.
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Liam Walker
Still, this is just hardware. Two more years till someone has it in a smaller frame, with internal batteries, ready for market.
It'll be clumsy, stupid, probably won't talk. It'll be about as useful as a mute anime catgirl that follows you around and tries to get you to fuck it. Fuck, ever met a girl with Cerebral Palsy? There's ya fucking mark 1.
The AI will be about as advanced as self driving cars are now, and that's it. You'll be fucking a self driving car. It'll use VSLAM to map your apartment, follow you around and cuddle you on the couch, MAYBE shower if you got one that has the more expensive sealed linear actuators (that still need replacing every year anyway), and drag you into bed for passionate cuddling.
This is it. Short a breakthrough in AI, which people have been confident will come "ANY YEAR NOW" since nineteen-fifty-fucking-nine, all that'll get better is the hardware.
Still, people will sell their second car just to buy one, the only reason there won't be a million shipments in the first year is that the factories won't have the capacity for it. Toyota, for example, will spend most of that year either re-keying their existing factories, or just building new ones dedicated for the bots. All you NEETS here, how hard would you work if it meant you could have an apartment to yourself with your "doll"? I guarantee, every one of you saying "I've tried applying for jobs, no-one will take me!" would have full-time work within a week, some even taking multiple different jobs so that once your doll rolls off the factory floor, you can pay whatever remains after the original $1000 deposit you scrounged around on day one, or just take out a loan for the rest.
No government would ever stop this, because it means hundreds of thousands, if not millions (depending on the size of your country) of new taxpayers that were originally just welfare drains. Girls will bitch. It will do nothing.
>This is it. Short a breakthrough in AI You know what AI research hasn't had yet? Tens of millions of geeks trying to make anime real in their spare time. Maybe even hundreds of millions. Not for some big business or government, but for themselves. And they'll coordinate their efforts over the Internet, like they've done for a lot of opensource endeavors.
..he says, posting a FUCKING 3DPD biocunt. you fucking asshole, I should slaughter you for what you have done. Stop giving attention to these opportunistic whores who play dress up and sully the names of our waifus.
Adam Cruz
It's funny when they know that it pisses off some guys when they cosplay as a character that they know nothing of so they claim that "they're totally playing the game/watching the anime to get to know the characters before their next cosplay" but then can't answer anything more than very basic questions about them if even that and they ban people who point this out. They probably just watched their bf play the game a little. But not all of them though. Most cosplayers really are defiling our waifus but some of them I believe are truly honoring them and I would forgive them their 3DPD nature because of that.
Brody Ward
Oooooo this nigger has a very good point. Skyrim is just Skyrim, then you discover the lewd mods and you’ll stay up for fucking hours tweaking that shit just how your filthy mind wants it.
I guess. It just makes my blood boil to see them pretending to be someone they clearly cannot compete with, and expecting attention for that. It is similar to a man dressing up as jesus and expecting seas to part. It should only be answered with ridicule and scorn. These subhumans cannot comprehend the idea of honoring our waifus by dressing up like them, they simply want the attention and approval of thirsty betas who dont care about their waifus but are blinded with lust. Thats fucking it. I appreciate your viewpoint but I differ in the part where you think 3DPD is redeemable, I just think they are not. Sure, there are some decent ones, but exceptions dont make the rule and it all is just so tiresome.
Camden Cruz
Bump
Lucas Carter
Waifubot B group has a massive lead, still.
Asher Rivera
The future will be so gloriously autistic I’m tearing up
>anyone who picks B is either retarded or really shallow and doesn't care if their "love" is fake
What are you talking about? Alot of men go for the lust into love route, some are perfectly happy with lust. It's not so much that they want complete control to satisfy power urges or some other bollocks that some garbage shrink came up with, it's that sex, physical desire is a big part of men. Love has nothing to do with it.
