Conservatism inherently requires less intelligence to subscribe to than Marxism.
To be a coherent Marxist, you have to AT least read the Manifesto, Wage Labor & Capital, and Socialism: Utopian and Scientific.
To be a coherent conservative, you just have to have an instinctive dislike of things that are unfamiliar to you, which most people already fucking have. It requires no intelligence, no literacy, and no critical thinking. This is why Marxists almost always have higher IQs than conservatives, by the way.
This poster obviously has no history of sustained political thought. Rather, his political, social, and economic views have been shaped entirely by Jow Forums memes, in this case referencing Pinochet's illegal executions of "communists" (usually just peasant organizers).
Michael Jenkins
You're only saying that because you're unable to meme. Also I am fairly new to Jow Forums and found out about things like the helicopter rides thing LONG before I came to Jow Forums
Another person whose entire worldview has been formed by looking at online memes.
This thread is a goldmine of evidence.
Samuel Wood
There's literally tons of books about austrian economics and other right wing schools of thought
Matthew Cook
I don't care how many books you have read, your retarded ideology has been tried numerous times and has failed with horrible results every single time without exception.
Now get rid of your meme flag so we can see your Israel flag that we all know you have
Ryan Butler
I think conservatism and libertarianism should be viewed as two separate but related concepts. Libertarians tend to be much smarter than run-of-the-mill conservatives.
Jonathan Thomas
>To be a coherent Marxist requires you to read a shitload of brainwashing nonsense. >To be a coherent conservative can be reached via common sense.
Jack Miller
Yeah exept that before the election nobody here simply identified as conservative
Lincoln Anderson
The genius of being conservative is that it is true to human nature. That’s why it works.
Marxism is antithetical to human nature, and it will never be successful.
Brody Watson
>I think So you admit your ignorance about the subject yet you accuse us of just being motivated by nothing but internet memes
Elijah Scott
BOTH of your sentences are incorrect. So, you agree with me that Marxists have actually read books and conservatives haven't?
Can you think of ANY other topic on which you'd trust the person who hasn't read books on the matter more than the person who has?
Leo Martin
Not true. Laying about in the wilderness with no medicine, agriculture, or shelter is true to human nature as well. Why shouldn't we go ahead and do that? "I think" is the equivalent of saying "I'm of the opinion of" you daft fuck.
Not every opinion should be blindly states as fact. Some opinions, like the one I said, are semantic in nature and can't be empirically proven.
Easton Lee
I would trust someone who says the sky is blue without ever reading any books over someone who has read dozens of books about the sky and say that it's red
>I read books so I'm right that's an argument from authority, those books (especially in the case of the communist manifesto) are horribly written pieces of crap that have never worked when applied to real life
Isaiah Barnes
You got me on the second sentence (although you could be using a VPN or something) but the first one is still 100% accurate and there's nothing you can do about that
Jayden Brown
I have a broad perspective over all those views and I agree with FP.
Owen Diaz
It might require a somewhat higher IQ to understand and subscribe to communism although I can imagine even communism has a large portion of followers that have yet to read a single book about it. But then again this said IQ doesn't seem to be capable of realizing that your system is flawed and, depending on who you ask, nothing but an utopian or dystopian fiction.
Jace Walker
uwu just saw this little gem hope people take that to its logical end
Jaxson King
True, because conservatism is natural. Farmers would have been conservative.
See: Satoshi Kanazawa's "savannah hypothesis", that behavior further from what was evolved into us, takes more intelligence to pick up.
Parker Gonzalez
no shit people of unorthodox political views tend to be more well read (mostly because they've thought it through more than the ones who pick mainstream conservatism or liberalism).
Doesn't mean that communists are any smarter than their equivalents that subscribe to the mainstream political ideologies.
For example, you're gonna get nowhere if you don't make yourself look moderate. It's a little bit smarter to introduce your views in a moderate way before dropping the pill on your followers.
But, of course I highly doubt that those who subscribe to such an ideology that is shown to be historically and structurally flawed would be the smartest ones in our society.
Hitler read books too. Do you agree that Marxists are literally Hitler? >Can you think of ANY other topic on which you'd trust the person who hasn't read books on the matter more than the person who has? Gender studies.
Communists, like Nazis don't deserve to have their ideas debated. To give communists a platform is to legitimize disproven theories that have produced tyranny and death all over the world. FPBP. You can't reason with the unreasonable. Go back to Jow ForumsLateStageCapitalism and stay there
Christian Evans
>This is why Marxists almost always have higher IQs than conservatives, by the way. Which is strange when you think about it, don't Conservatives tend to make more money?
If you aren't making room for instinct and stupid people, your super high IQ philosophy is going to appeal only to a small exclusive clique of people whose occupations rarely extend beyond thinking for a living. That's probably why leftist areas are so worth running away from.
Ian Myers
wow so one system is natural and intuitive and the other is a theory based thought experiment? wow they both probably work equally as good IRL and youre smart OP you probably have a high IQ just like chomsky who has a great record when it comes to politics wow haha thanks for letting us know
oh yaas so intellectually superior. Pit tribe against tribe, divide and conquer. So fucking intelligent.
Brayden Campbell
If all intellectuals think Communism is the greatest thing since sliced bread, maybe intellectuals aren't so good after all. Communism mostly appeals to literary types with an IQ of at most 115 anyway.
Liam Wright
You're completely correct user. PIC REL But you're in a small range, and you can't see outside. You need to experience communism to understand why it doesn't work.
So basically, communism is literally untenable because the vast majority of people are too stupid? Yet, the "smart" communists still tried to implement their systems?
The only smart communists are technological accelerationists that realize only when technology grants us a post-scarcity world will communism even be feasible.
Isaac Smith
> Laying about in the wilderness with no medicine, agriculture, or shelter is true to human nature as well.
WOW SO TRUE OP HUMANS NEVER EVEN PROGRESSED UNTIL MARX
Ayden Rogers
To be a Marxist all you to do is believe that children belong to everyone to be molested and not just the pedokike cult.
lol no dumbass, do you honestly believe the serfs in russia had high literacy or copies of that book when they could barely afford food?
Jace James
Piss off commiefag.
Matthew Fisher
>coherent >marxist you gotta pick one bro
Andrew Williams
So the antifa who don't shower, endlessly repeat slogans & glitch out when asked what their policy positions are, are in fact intelligent? Color me surprised.
Luke Bennett
In order to be a Marxist/Socialist you also have to be real shit with pattern recognition. Those ideals have gotten so many fuckin ppl killed and helped nobody long term
Jaxson Nelson
>To be a coherent Marxist, you have to AT least read the Manifesto, Wage Labor & Capital, and Socialism: Utopian and Scientific. Good thing most marxists aren't coherent.
You'd have a fairer comparison if you used libertarian or national socialist as your right wing character. Fringe politics on all sides attracts people who are smarter than average, whatever their other faults.
Owen Hill
kek I think that's the problem.
Isaac Myers
You again? Go envangelize nofood somewhere else
Caleb Allen
So what you’re saying is that in order to be a Marxist one must read and be indoctrinated in order to overcome principles intrinsic to human nature, and what amounts to basic survival mechanisms?
Connor Cox
>run-of-the-mill conservatives. What you're describing is ideological extremism vs centrism. Most people in either direction are filthy casuls who don't care about politics beyond their particular agendas. They don't subscribe to a political ideology, nor are their political views consciously central to their behaviors and choices. They don't see the world around them through an ideological lens. When you talk about those on the fringes, like commies, libertarian/ancaps, fascists/natsocs, etc, they are typically better educated on their ideology precisely because they are extremists. They're more concerned with ideological consistency because politics plays a large role in their lives.
Robert White
So talk to me about what monetary policy Marxism would use. And if you tell me you don't need it because everyone can magically distribute goods, raw materials, labor and land perfectly you get a free helicopter ride.
>Op stops responding as soon as met with responses that proves the null hypothesis he is so in fear of Biochemist here, you can say the same about liberals/casual leftists. They arent extremist, and dont care as much about politics. There are books on fascism, on laissez faire, on traditionalism. Etc. Personally Im a fan of Evola. But those arent "conservative" as you pointed out, that is too specific of an ideology right?
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Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
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----------------------------------------- Da sdages of gommunism.
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>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.