.. so what's the verdict? Has Trump signed the bill or not?
Speak.
HAS HE SIGNED THE BILL?
Nathan Hill
Logan Foster
Who cares the walls getting built. Im satisfied
Grayson Adams
is it really?
Juan Bailey
Signing the bill was the price he had to pay. We knew the wall would cost us something. It costs us Dems largely getting their way until the bill ends in September.
Bentley Murphy
The government isn't shut down = he signed it.
Jonathan Lewis
nah
Cameron Collins
so.. what the fuck was going on with all the kvetching about him not having signed it? Some guys here were really into that. And secondly, is he really gonne get the wall funded through emergency powers?
James Reyes
lol why not?
Jason Thompson
>trump calls NE
>gets sued like crazy
>feds move in to build the wall
>local authorities block them because muh state rights.
The media owns the narrative. The second the feds even try to push they will signal to their brainwashed herd that the federal government is acting like tyrants and trampling state rights. They will site the provision in this bill and argue about it for years, by which time some other cronie will be in office and the wall won't be built anyways.
Oh, and Israel gets 3.3 bill more, just to spit in your face because that's about as much as they took out of the wall funding
All of trump policies have been policies the public cant do anything about. Public cant physically block shit like tax adjustments. But you know what they can stop.
A FUCKING WALL
You probably think trump is playing some sort of underwater upside down jenga, but all the approved zoning for the wall is EXCLUSIVLY in districts that hate trump. Every Beto type politician will rally their zog sheep to prevent the wall at all costs. They will fly in all o or the nation to fucking do it to feel like activist heroes.
Even if only 30% of people trust the media (it's probably higher) that's still 120 million people. If even 1% of those people decide to do anything, that's 1.2 million zog bots willing to stop the wall at all costs
THINK
Stop supporting him on this, its fucking pathetic. He lost if he signs that bill, and we are all fucked, your blissfull ignorance isn't helping anyone
Fuck you and fuck every newfag t-d poster on this board, you fucking killed us you wretches.
Connor Jones
Sarah sanders announced it was signed so, presumably yes.
John Gomez
I’m happy about the wall, but the budget bill somehow included amnesty for child traffickers so....that.
Charles Lee
>55 miles of bollard fencing
Your standards for a "border wall" must be extremely low then.
Isaiah Gray
This is now a Jussie Smollet thread.
Thomas Rodriguez
>Implying the federal government doesn't have national border authority
He can push this through the courts too.
John Gomez
The bill Trump signs gives "local officials" FULL VETO POWER within their jurisdiction, and most of Texas's border counties are blue due to immigration.
The wall isn't going up, and Trump made damn sure of that when he signed this bill.
Hunter Hill
The National Emergency Trump announced is his presidency, and it's time to get him out
Lincoln Rivera
That was removed in the Senate version
Lincoln Morris
even if true (its obviously not lol) its still not good enough, enjoy amnesty amerimutt
Landon Carter
Source please.
Jack Jones
Not according to the whitehouse
Owen Jenkins
Aren't you guys slated to import like the entire African continent over the next 20 years or something?
We are both equally fucked. The only question is who will be destroyed all together first between you guys and us.
Jose Miller
The verdict is that he's a zionist puppet, just like the rest.
Mason Murphy
NO HE HAS NOT! and he will not.
Liberal trolls have invaded Jow Forums spreading FAKE NEWS.
Trump has not betrayed his base!
Hunter Jackson
yeah true but im not doing damage control or deluding myself
Liam King
Probably is yeah.
According to some estimates there's only like 650 miles that would need any sort of barrier and he already got something like 50-100 miles of that with a couple billion, then has three separate statutes that are being invoked that allow for playing around with different sorts of military construction funds in order to build more with about 8 billion dollars total.
It probably won't technically be a wall, as over a year ago border patrol made it clear they like barriers they can see through, so it'll be more like the fencing we've seen before, but there's little reason to think he can't get that made.
With the recent budget bill there was misinformation when it came to 'sponsors' because it's a legal designation from the DHS but people were interpreting it in laymen's terms due to people like Ann Coulter, so they figured it meant anyone that came across the border with a kid or had a kid come into the country could then be immune to deportation.
Jacob Stewart
TOTALLY DIFFERENT! He signed a 30 day bill to keep the Government open during his National Emergency! It's different!
Nolan Anderson
YES! Regime change in Iran!
Don't worry, it'll totally work this time.
Isaiah Morris
He already signed it, however magapedes are still in denial about it:
Grayson Long
Sauce?
Alexander Gutierrez
Source?
Brody Cooper
no lol
Nathaniel Morales
It honestly looks like only one of the statutes being invoked even requires the national emergency declaration, which would make it harder for people to fight in court who were figuring they could argue about whether there was really an emergency, as they'd be needing to do suits for different states or regions based on the different statutes and/or eminent domain. Then there's already been multiple cases that have gone through and been won when it came to building in spite of environmental regulations.
It all looks pretty good to be honest.
Adam Robinson
Jeremiah Young
lmao this
Luke Smith
“Through deception we shall make war”
It’s time to wake up..
Jeremiah Cooper
Just words. He hasn't attempted to do any such thing in the Middle East. Look at our support of Isis and the rebels in Syria. VERY HALF ASS. Because Trump doesn't want to commit to any regime change. He's just humoring the warmongers.
Ryder Robinson
TRUMP is surrounded by people a hell of a lot smarter than us. The wall is in the bag.
I'm curious what other surprises he has in store.
Adam Howard
fucking shills everywhere
it was ridiculous
Jackson Perez
What difference does it make?
They have the votes to override a possible veto in house and senate. No one is saying that on Jow Forums. It’s the law regardless of what trump does.
Jason Wilson
There's also supposedly more money set aside for ICE beds and other crap.
Which all together makes it fucking weird how people on the right have done these mental gymnastics to declare the left the real winners.
Alexander Smith
After Venezuela. Trust the plan.
Zachary Myers
>The wall is in the bag!
Every county official on the Texas border disagrees. He gave all those blue faggots veto power. He also signed the wall will not be built near the Rio Grande. It also cannot be constructed on any federal land or parks either.
What's left? 55 miles. Which is what all he got financing for.
Evan Thomas
the only person left i'll ever vote for is randal k paul. this shit is so gay.
Gabriel Bell
They didn't get their way though. Defacto amnesty was fffake news and dems didn't want to give 1 cent but caved for 1.3 billion.
Jeremiah Price
Stupid fuck
Thomas Stewart
Actually the shills would be the ones you gleefully say that he signed it and torment the soft brains in Jow Forums
HE HASN'T SIGNED IT!
Hudson Anderson
Trump is a progressive from New York, he’s probably the biggest promoter of immigration out of anybody. That’s why he hasn’t done shit with this adminstration and continued to hire bush subjects. Our country is fucked
There’s no point in building a wall when the overwhelming majority of illegals are about to gain amnesty. That will just convince more of them to come in. Trump ultimately fucked up by signing this. He basically just made Kahmala Harris win 2020.
This level of coping is huger than the Empire State Building.
Jeremiah Gomez
Stupid fuck
Landon Johnson
lol quoting Breitbart? Seriously?
He signed a bill not that bill.
Asher Carter
More FAKE NEWS the bill allows for any portions of the wall built with the 1.3 billion the use any currently deployed design. That means steel barrier wall with razor wire
Logan Flores
Breitbart is probably one of the most reputiatble sources ever when it comes to immigration. They’re usually never wrong.
Adam Perez
Yes you fucking retard
Wyatt Turner
Go fuck yourself stupid.
Isaiah Thomas
>Defacto Amnesty is fake news
It literally says on the bill that any illegals acompanyed with a child will have protection against being deported. I don’t know why you’re in denial so much.
Henry Diaz
retard
Sebastian King
>HURR FAKE NEWS!
Really, you stupid fucking boomer?
Here, let's make this real clear.
What exactly did Trump sign? Let's have a look!
>Less of a wall than even what Democrats already agreed to: Trump originally demanded $25 billion for the wall. Then he negotiated himself down to $5.6 billion. Democrats balked and only agreed to $1.6 billion. This bill calls it a day at $1.375 billion, enough to construct 55 miles. But it’s worse than that. This bill limits the president’s ability to construct “barriers” to just the Rio Grande Valley sector and only bollard fencing, not concrete walls of any kind. There’s no ability to adapt. Furthermore, section 231 prohibits construction even within the RGV in five locations that are either federal or state lands. Remember, the challenge with building a wall in Texas is that, unlike in other states, the feds need to navigate issues with private lands. The first place you’d construct fencing is on public lands, which are now prohibited. The national parks along the border have gotten so bad that park rangers are scared to travel alone in them.
>Liberal local officials have veto power over wall: Actually, on second thought, it’s likely that not a single mile of fence will be built. Section 232(a) of this bill states that “prior to use of any funds made available by this Act for the construction of physical barriers” the Department of Homeland Security “shall confer and seek to reach mutual agreement regarding the design and alignment of physical barriers within that city.” With whom must the feds consult? “The local elected officials.” Now you can understand the brilliance of limiting the wall to the Rio Grande Valley. These are the most liberal counties on the border (thanks to demographics of open borders itself!), and there is practically no local official who supports the wall in these counties.
James Morales
They don't have veto power, the bill only stipulates that they must be "consulted" for any portions of the wall built in their area with the 1.3 billion from the bill.
David Evans
congress.gov
U N S I G N E D
Elijah Campbell
Checked and confirmed.
Dominic Walker
>This bill contains a blatant amnesty for the worst cartel smugglers: Section 224(a) prohibits the deportation of anyone who is sponsoring an “unaccompanied” minor illegal alien – or who says they might sponsor a UAC, or lives in a household with a UAC, or a household that potentially might sponsor a UAC. It’s truly difficult to understate the betrayal behind this provision. One of the driving factors of the invasion is the misinterpretation of the UAC law. Under current law, Central American teenagers are only treated as refugees if they are A) a victim of “A severe form of trafficking” and B) have no relatives in the country. Yet almost all of them are self-trafficked by these very illegal relatives who are indeed present in the country. Rather than clamping down on this fleecing of the American people, the bill gives amnesty to the very people paying the cartels to invade us!
>More funding to manage and induce the invasion rather than to deter it: While offering no new funding for ICE deportation agents or immigration judges to speed up asylum claims, as the president requested, this bill adds another $40 million for the Alternatives to Detention (ATD) program, which moves asylum seekers to facilities in the interior of the country, where they are usually released. Vaughan, who has studied interior immigration enforcement for decades, warned that “this bill will further expand and institutionalize the catch-and-release policies for those arriving illegally at the border from all over the world.”
> Doubling low-skilled workers: This bill (p. 1,161) doubles the number of H-2B non-agricultural, unskilled seasonal workers who will continue to be a public charge on America. This gives you a glimpse of what is driving this amnesty bill on the Republican side.
William Sullivan
Wrong. See Section 232(a)
Go read it.
Tyler Collins
Spending bills don’t become pernament laws, they usually last for six months. However Trump will likely keep signing them no matter what. Again, your argument falls flat.
John Rodriguez
sounds more like deferred action than amnesty. I agree that it incentives more border crossings and the risk that the dreamers, and now child traffickers, will eventually get amnesty before being deported.
Dominic Long
Holy shit you’re as stupid as a sun dried dog turd.
Xavier Allen
Finally some fucking truth around here. This place is infested with shills
Alexander Martin
>is he really gonne get the wall funded
No. please stop being a fag. Thank you.
Michael Peterson
these limitations are only on the 1.3 billion. Isnt he spending about 14 billion of military budget? Can't he do whatever he wants with it? If we build legit wall next to half assed wall the superiority and necessity of a real wall might become obvious enough that the low IQ masses can finally get it.
Xavier James
Sebastian Rogers
>The troof is only the troof when it fits with what Daddy Trumpstein says in his neocon propaganda rallies!
Mason Mitchell
rude!
Austin Evans
This very much
Cooper Martinez
r-rude.. desu
Nolan Brooks
congress.gov
With White House announcements and other "official" sources citing he's already signed it, and the Congress website saying it's not law, it looks like they just blew their load early without confirmation. A concession like this would have been televised and gloated over, but there's no proof. It's natural to be skeptical. It's not the first time the media and official sources have lied to us, and Trump is generally hard to observe on what his intentions can be at times.
Kayden Rogers
>“prior to use of any funds made available by this Act
so the military money wont be affected by this. Trump can build concrete wall with real security, and then also w/e garbage he's permitted to with the spending bill. Criminals will obviously focus their energy on the easier of the 2 barriers to circumvent. It'll be the pepsi challenge of border security.
Brayden Walker
THANK YOU!
This!
Angel Phillips
can someone just DM him on twitter and ask?
Anthony Ross
>Can't he do whatever he wants with the military budget?
Lelno. That money is going to more productive things like regime change in Venezuela and Iran, and arming "rebel" groups in those countries.
We've seen this shit before. Shit's about to happen again.
Jose James
who runs the whitehouse website? I assumed some of trump's personal staff, but maybe its just some DC randos?
Landon Cooper
Leo Carter
Then why is the govt not shut down? Post proof
Caleb Smith
This MAGA-coping can't be healthy. Sbouldn't these anons go to a doctor?
Christopher Jones
Quit cry’n you little bitch. He’s worthless. He fucked you in the ass with no lube. There will never be a fucking wall. This shit will be tied up in courts for years. He’ll likely not even finish his term in office and he sure as hell ain’t gonna be re-elected. No wall faggot. Cope.
Robert Cooper
Fuck off stupid. It’s been confirmed a zillion times.
Owen Kelly
Give it until tuesday once the weekend and niggerday has passed. If it hasn’t been updated by then then we need to start asking serious questions
Aaron Jenkins
the government shuts down every weekend. We wont really know till monday.
Easton Collins
post proof faggot
Brody Mitchell
While I agree he's betrayed us, I disagree that he won't be reelected. Dems have a shit lineup.
Blake Cruz
if that's true then why are you so scared?
Nolan Myers
Won't know tomorrow because retard holiday
Nathaniel Bailey
this
Charles Thompson
that's just great that a shutdown gets treated like the fucking plague but the government gives itself a billion fucking days off.
Grayson Peterson
What happens now?
Through 2020, Trump bolsters a reduced Boomer + useful idiot base to cheerlead his "struggle" against the "Deep State" to "finish the wall," via many rallies where agent provocateurs on *both* sides stir polarization. Fox News focuses only on this drama, not on the poison bill except in passing.
Meanwhile, Ann Coulter bolsters the vacating young + more informed of Trump's base, a glass half empty view of "America is lost" that culminates in a Pat Buchanan-like candidate who gets viral traction but is ultimately, maybe intentionally siphoned off by the media as a "fringe" candidate of White Nationalism, the same playbook used against Ron Paul but with steroid analytics and social groupthink. Coulter enjoys millions more, but becomes an Alex Jones, Glenn Beck alterna "outdated" figure.
Trump loses a major Hollywood election in 2020 to Michelle Obama, whose speeches are firework displays of Oprah, celebrities, and pop-rap Drake runoff. Slay Queen. Barack and Bill Clinton and maybe Hillary all assist. This concludes the "white middle class MAGA" narrative.
Gen Z and millennials shoot off into White Nationalist meme warfare. Crushed by Mockingbird JIDF PsyGroup Technion infiltration, movies depict them as Hitler Youth
Smaller movies/books express empathy due to drug use and depression: lost gen of whites
Before exiting, Trump allows military to raid Iran mirroring bin Laden Zero Dark Thirty shit. It's quick. A "victory." Israel becomes more powerful. Putin is bribed bigly, becomes passive Czar.
Jared takes role in Israel. Ivanka is less liked but more powerful Diana of Israel. Elites move to Israel. Hollywood leaks over to Israel bigly. Israel becomes hipster artfag Brooklyn place to be.
Vice and BuzzFeed become one. Both are then bought by CNN. Or Fox News. It's all the same. Reality is totally subjective now.
Christian churches fight libtard tax legislation, become communal 1A 2A safezones. But no Israel criticism.
JAVANKA WON.
Gabriel Hernandez
>is he really gonne get the wall funded through emergency powers?
No. Supreme Court will shitcan this, since it's not a national emergency.
Levi Russell
Hey dumbfuck, this is steel bollard fencing design
Yeah, fake news.
>DHS official: Border security bill does not contain ‘amnesty’ poison pills
>archive.is
See above. It doesn't allow for what all the shills are claiming it does
Leo Brooks
Under Rated
Nicholas Ramirez
Sounds like they’re trying to either expand on their pedo ring operations or cover their tracks. If the traffickers can cover up as potential kiddo sponsors then there’s really nothing to report
Liam Watson
Stop spamming this garbage in every thread
Henry Bailey
when has the fact that there's no emergency ever been pertinent to whether or not the president can declare an emergency? The emergencies powers act has been abused by every president since its inception. We havent not been in a state of emergency for decades.
Brayden Morales
Holy fuck dude...he barely squeaked in last time and it’s been 2 years of constant mayhem, criminal investigations, 8,000 plus lies, constant corruption and more. Zero chance.
Nathan Brooks
>DHS
You mean the same DHS that actively released some illegals from deportations in the past? Yeah I’m not falling for that