My 12yr old daughter wants to go to ariana grande concert. I don't want her to be exposed to the sexualizing content and inapropriate role models. Help me with talking points to win her and my wife over this.
Ariana grande concert
She's already exposed to it if she's aware enough of her to want to go to a concert, how did you let that happen? Now not only does she admire someone with sexualised content, but she'll forever associate it with you disappointing her by standing in her way. Badabing badaboom, you've got a stripper on your hands.
Her best friend and cousin are inspirations outside of my influence :-(
H O M E S C H O O L
be a man and say "NO, YOU CAN NOT GO, I AM YOUR FATHER." Spank your wife and remind her not raise slutty children.
Explain to her the definition of a thot
And why she deserve a better "model"
does your daughter listen to these songs lol
You already lost this one, people are the way they are and you can either accept them or waste your life trying to change them. Also how tf do you think you are going to keep your child under a rock her whole life during the information age? If you actually cared about this you should clearly have become Amish
Whores and sluts are probably one of the most miserable kind of women in the world. They use sexuality to overcompensate their misery and lack of confidence, and are secretly ashamed to be this way but they do it because they feel that they have no other qualities to redeem their character.
Now I don't know how to handle that when it comes to the youth but I know for sure that she will have daddy issues if you are harsh on her and that will be a starting point for her downfall.
>and my wife
you cannot OP, your wife is part of the problem in the first place. Most girls try to out thot each other early and even shame or taunt each other if they haven't lost their virginity at 14.
Congratulation on your nigger grandbabies
100% of truth
>and are secretly ashamed to be this way
you stupid but you're a man so.....
Slutty whore detected
No believe me they do, if not then they're probably psychopaths.
>Help me with talking points to win her and my wife over this.
Shes twelve so what you say goes and you csnt really afford to drop that kind of dough with your burger flipper salary
but the problem user is OP's wife is ok with it. OP's wife was likely the same when she was young so its no big thing to her
you men don't know what we think or how we process information because you never try. You have some bubble pop with an idea so it must be it but its only from your perspective. Men and women perceive and process things differently and simply because you are a man doesn't make your view, even something crazy, right.
I’m not a man.
Ariana is a great role model though. She's been through some shit and dug herself out of it. One of her concerts was attacked by literal terrorists, her ex boyfriend killed himself, her other ex boyfriend wants to kill himself, and she just keeps trucking and banging out hit singles.
pop music has always been about sex
Half The Beatles songs are about sex and you bet your ass there were parents in the 60s crying about how corrupting they were and how much of a negative influence they were on children.
Seems silly in retrospect right?
Let her have fun, she probably doesn't even understand it. Concerts are amazing when you're 12.
You're only damaging your daughter by giving her justification to rebel against you and by creating a taboo around popular culture and sex. This will come back to bite you big time and you are inadvertently raising a whore through your conservative paranoia.
Why not find a role model who knows how to choose normal partners and still be succesfull and dress with more decency? And add to that not running to get engaged to someone a month after her boyfriend died and then call it off as quickly and dishing out a song about it.
It literally doesn't mean anything to see it. I grew up on Britney and still wasn't sexually active until my 20s, don't dress like their stage outfits, and learned to be proud and in control of my sexuality instead of ashamed of it which would leave me more vulnerable.
Let her enjoy her childhood
If you act like this now she won't trust you enough to talk to when she has real problems with guys
You already lost her, i mean.
Is having daughters the ultimate cuckoldry?
I cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than having a daughter. Honestly, think about it rationally. You are feeding, clothing, raising and rearing a girl for at least 18 years solely so she can go and get ravaged by another man. All the hard work you put into your beautiful little girl - reading her stories at bedtime, making her go to sports practice, making sure she had a healthy diet, educating her, playing with her. All of it has one simple result: her body is more enjoyable for the men that will eventually fuck her in every hole.
Raised the perfect girl? Great. Who benefits? If you're lucky, a random man who had nothing to do with the way she grew up, who marries her. He gets to fuck her tight pussy every night. He gets the benefits of her kind and sweet personality that came from the way you raised her.
As a man who has a daughter, you are LITERALLY dedicating at least 20 years of your life simply to raise a girl for another man to enjoy. It is the ULTIMATE AND FINAL cuck. Think about it logically
In addition if you teach her about historic and modern woman she can decide who her role model is. There's so many. I looked up to a lot of different people, not just one, nor did the pop culture decide that for me.
yes you are
>her ex boyfriend killed himself, her other ex boyfriend wants to kill himself
she knows how to pick em doesn't she? doesn't sound like a stable girl and not role model material
hey what are you doing out of your convent?
Let me get this wrong; You probably suffered a lot of physical abuse in your childhood and use sex to escape from the painful memories, or from the depressing boredom to get some excitement, right?
Ariana Grande seems to be suffering from Bipolar Disorder or BPD, I met a lot of girls with these disorders and I can tell you that they share a lot of characteristics, and are practically impossible to please because they always feel miserable. Her choice of suicidal partners is evident that she can only relate to these kind of people.
Sometimes people are just dealt shitty hands and sometimes girls just like sex.
Not everything has to be some sort of deep connection to trauma.
I'm here to share my mind because I can understand OP's concern when it comes to idolizing toxic people. I speak from experience here and I know a lot of toxic people because I myself is a toxic person and I done things that I'm not proud of. Just because you're miserable doesn't mean your toxic coping mechanism should be valid.
So women should never enjoy sex? Only if they've been abused and use it as escape?I'm no SJW but that just sounds stupid. Women and teens are horny and enjoy sex because of hormones. Same reason men enjoy sex
mac millar was a beautiful soul
I can understand why anyone would love him
He's a tool.
Say no. You don't want her to go, so she doesn't. You are a pussy for even asking us. You need to show her what a strong man looks like.
>My 12yr old daughter wants to go to ariana grande concert.
RIDE DICK BICYCLES
>Is having daughters the ultimate cuckoldry?
That is a very interesting line of thinking.
I disagree because it's your own DNA inside your daughter. You're serving yourself by serving her.
Also you up her chances of landing a good man, by making her into a good woman. The better her personality, holes, and demeanor is , the better man who'll marry into your family.
If you do a good enough job and raise her super well, then you'll find she marries a millionaire and she's super well supported and you have the finest and coolest grandchildren. Inversely, you fail as a father, then she ends up marrying a man with tattoos on his face and she catches STD's. You're lucky if they have kids, let alone any good ones. Hope for your blood and family at this point is very low.
Additionally, it's fun to raise daughters. The idea is that it's not an exclusive benefit, but an inclusive one. Reading your daughter a bedtime story should be just as rewarding for you, as it is for her. A good father generally *loves* to spend time with his daughter and in no point does it feel like a sacrifice. If it does to you, then I encourage you to indeed keep a distance from your own daughter .It's better for you both.
Interesting thought nevertheless. I'll toil it around my head more.
She's 12 so it's already troubling at this point, extremely i'm afraid to say.
Just home school her, and cut off all communication from her cousin.
and educate your wife and over time try your best to prevent her from becoming a whore. She's still quite young so you can do it brah
Its a lot easier to prevent them from doing this stuff when theyre young, but now, you gonna have a hard time.
Also does she use a tablet or a phone? If computer, it should be easy for you to monitor her laptop and control
her online actives and censor any bad influence by installing a remote desktop software for example, in a way
without her knowing, assuming she doesnt know as much about this stuff.
Literally nothing you can do from preventing your daughter from having sex or being a slut.
Home schooling her and keeping her away from society will make her even more slutty when she's 16-18. The easiest most slutty girls are the ones who were repressed by their dad
obviously the only manly thing you can do is to fuck the shit out of your daughter.
you are a man, op, right?
Nothing drives a 12 into doing something you hate faster than Dad throwing a fit...
Embrace A G and start playing her music when ever your home.
This. Teens hate their parents going with the flow.
This op, show interest in your daughters hobby.
>He doesn't know
Good lord these responses are useless. OP how about you explain your reasons for not wanting her to go? Watch some peaceful parenting videos from Stefan Molyneux. You should easily be able to explain to her the negative results of living a life like Ariana Grande. Shes had around 5 boyfriends, one has killed himself, another threatening to. Does she want her prince charming? Or what Ariana has?
Telling her no and thinking you can shield her from the world instead of having honest, open conversations with her about it is the quickest way to make sure that she follows the wrong path, OP. Being exposed to sexualized content isn't what causes children to act out. Having no guidance and no information to put this sexualized content into context is what causes them to act out. Instead of saying "NO, you can't be exposed to this." have a conversation with her and give her the tools to understand and process what these kinds of things mean. She's already exposed. When she leaves your house she'll be exposed more. Her life is going to be nothing but exposure to things you wish she wouldn't be exposed to but there's nothing you can do to stop it. Educate her. Don't be a judgemental, nay-saying prick. Speak to her with love and help her build self-esteem. A young girl who has supportive, communicative parents and has been taught to love and value herself will grow up to be a well-adjusted person with a healthy view of sex. Don't fuck this up.
yeah, this is the only legit. This board has been infested by Jow Forums, please tell us why you don't want her to go with this one.
Honestly don't what's so bad about this music. It doesn't even seem that suggestive.
So you don't enjoy the feeling of heroine? Only if they've been abused and use it to escape?I'm no SJW but that just sounds stupid. Women and teens are horny and enjoy heroine because of the feeling dopamine provides. Same reason men enjoy cocaine.
Enjoying something =/= the act of choosing to enjoy it, intrinsic context, etc
>being surprised a tripfag is a retarded newfag