She was born in the UK and still gets stripped of her citizenship without any sort of deliberation. How is that even possible? Where the hell is she going to go?
I moved here at 18, so I at least have ties back to the motherland but for people like her their whole life is here.
More importantly though there's the issue of just how low the threshold is. Granted fighting for ISIS is at the extreme end of the scale lol but what's at the bottom end? What about advocating for an ethnostate which Jow Forums loves to do. This should really concern you guys too.
>who's a naturalized UK citizen this is very worrying and sets a pretty alarming precedent. How about don't declare allegiance to an irregular terrorist army, run away 4000 miles from "home", and outspokenly proclaim your desire to murder the people of your "home country" and you'll never have to worry about this alarming precedent?
Hudson Sanchez
100% correct. Stripping citizenship and the attendant rights without due process is a slippery slope. We have no idea if she even committed a crime, other than travelling somewhere to live and now wanting to return. This bitch can be easily monitored and kept away from other muslims and the internet; your grandson's rights to not be stripped of citizenship when falsely labeled an 'enemy of the state' due to challenging a corrupt regime cannot easily be won back.
Isaiah Ramirez
>She was born in the UK and still gets stripped of her citizenship without any sort of deliberation. How is that even possible? Where the hell is she going to go?
In a sane world, UK would have death penalty & she'd be shot for treason. Then again, she's not of european origin...so is it truely treason ? so where should she go ? back to the country of her ancestors. UK is supposed to be a european land.
Non-europeans who are born in european countries do not magically become "british" or "french"...Only on paper. Not by blood.
Luis Nguyen
In all honesty, I think that she should be allowed to stay and am utterly sickened by the actions of the home secretary in regards to this case. I shan't be voting for the Tories ever again. This young girl was groomed. She was a victim. How will it hurt us if she is allowed to come and live here she's a fucking British citizen. If it can happen to her it can happen to any of us.
Isaac Hernandez
Found the paki
Brandon Baker
Here's a conondrum for you.
You join a militia and spout white supremacist views then get stripped of your US citizenship as a result. Where the fuck do you go?
I actually couldn't believe my ears when I heard sajid javid just basically went 'yup, you're no longer British because I said so'.
Nathan Williams
She was an impressionable young girl and was groomed you ignorant, uncivlised cunt.
Brody Hernandez
OK, I think you're fishing now lol.
But I really felt like I was the only one at work today thinking of the potential ramifications of something like this.
Austin Johnson
>our grandson's rights to not be stripped of citizenship when falsely labeled an 'enemy of the state' due to challenging a corrupt regime cannot easily be won back.
THANK YOU
Everyone at work was applauding the situation and I was just sitting there like :O
Gabriel Foster
You're right, she should be executed for treason.
John Hughes
I agree. She was groomed as a stupid 15 year old kid into a mind fucked cult and was a victim of some sick adults who took advantage of her youth and naivety. Her views may be abhorrent, but I don't believe in 'thought crimes'. If she is considered a threat, she should be monitored like any other threat.
Joshua Anderson
>travelling somewhere to live You define joining a terrorist organisation that waged war to establish an illegitimate state and that is responsible for mass extrajudicial killings in the most brutal and inhumane manner, and who sanction and promote and are responsible for the bombing and killing of civilians in western countries, swearing allegiance to said organisation and birthing the next generation of jihadi as *travelling somewhere to live*, what are you, a lawyer?
Ryder Perry
>>Do something the gov doesn't like >>Be stripped of citizenship without a trial or legal recourse i wish more people were aware of it today it's is brides,tomorrow domestic opposition
Evan Clark
Shitskin
Ryder Lee
Yes, I am. I work for a global law firm in Canary wharf. Which is why I was all the more baffled by my colleagues reactions agreeing with the decision. I suspect though they did it just to fit in and I'm sure more than a few had some serious reservations.
Jace Gomez
Just give her a trail? If she is found of any wrong doing then you can send her back. Like white people made courts for a reason, not to throw them away the first time we have to deal with Sand people.
Caleb Garcia
According to The Telegraph: >The British Nationality Act 1981 provides the Home Secretary with the power to strip people of citizenship if it is "conducive to the public good". I wonder if it is as simple as that statement makes it sound.
Ayden Garcia
>Where the hell is she going to go?
A grave, hopefully.
Lincoln Garcia
You have to go back
Hudson Cox
I muddled that.
According to The Telegraph: >The British Nationality Act 1981 provides the Home Secretary with the power to strip people of citizenship if it is "conducive to the public good". I wonder if it is as simple as that statement makes it sound.
Michael Miller
FUCK OFF MUHAMMAD
Brody Lopez
Why would I join a militia 4000 miles away and pledge to destroy my home country? Or why would I join an FBI entrapment meetup with hillbillies in the mountains? And yet she's in the age of majority now and proudly proclaims she has no regrets. Enjoy being enlightened and civilized when she returns home with her baby and sharts out six more who subsequently become radicalized because "you didn't accommodate us enough to assimilate".
Jonathan Reyes
Most people are stupid and don't consider the ramifications of things like this and what precedent is set. A few months ago spent half an hour explaining to my flatmate the importance of the right to remain silent (which basically no longer exists) and the reason it was made a right and also the importance and reasons behind the double jeopardy rights (which no longer exist). After all that, he still wanted the rights revoked (as they have been) because it felt good that some criminal couldn't just stay quiet when arrested or that a couple of cold cases were solved. Fuck the fact that he was happy to give away rights his grandkids may really need against tyranny in the future; it made him feel good now to know a few people got their just desserts. And most people think like that, sadly.
Andrew Walker
FUCK OFF MUHAMMAD
Josiah Thompson
>choose to become enemy of the state >leave to act against your country >"change of heart" Absolutely haze yourself
Christian Ross
FUCK OFF MUHAMMAD
Noah Kelly
Maybe one day
It seems so. I do Corporate law so immigration law might as well be Greek to me.
Michael Gonzalez
FUCK OFF MUHAMMAD
Henry Bell
FUCK OFF MUHAMMAD
Isaiah Jenkins
FUCK OFF MUHAMMAD
Nolan Reed
FUCK OFF MUHAMMAD
Bentley Hernandez
>British posters This poses a dangerous legal precedent, indeed this could be used as a slippery slope to gnaw away at our remaining freedoms.... quite intriguing...
>Yank posters >FUCK OFF MUHAMMAD
Gavin Flores
She could move to Iraq and get a fair trial
Brody White
FUCK OFF MUHAMMAD
Jacob Barnes
I'm a Corporate lawyer, but we were taught at Law school that you most definitely do have the right to remain silent. Our go to criminal law procedure was ask the client to write a statement, read it over, make sure he memorises it, then hand it over to police with no answers being given.
What's happened to the right?
Luke Thomas
She should have been roped. Death to those who provide aid and comfort to the enemy.
Adrian Jackson
and now she's a dangerous radicalized adult terrorist
Jordan Ross
I swear to god i fucking hate every oNe of you fucks you do nothingbut leech of us and give nothing back , WHY ARE YOU ALLOWED IN MY FUCKING COUNTRY YOU PAKI BASTARD
Jack Carter
>She can't be de-radicalised and correctly monitored to ensure she becomes a productive member of society
Yanks are the worst
Hunter Barnes
No, we have no idea what she did there. Was she promised a good life and a good husband in a godly society and went wanting that, or to go and torture people. We have no idea until due process is carried out. We have plenty of people in jail for terror offences--the punishment for which is not loss of citizenship. I know there is the temptation to wish to enact revenge, but this is about more than that, this is about protecting our freedoms from a knee jerk reaction. I couldn't care less about this bitch; I care about the rights of citizens to protection from the state, something that anyone on this board should agree with.
Caleb Sanchez
that's a wrong rant, he is a lawyer so you have to be like "why do you come and steal work from britons"
Gabriel Johnson
>She can't be de-radicalised
Correct.
Logan Baker
>203971027 >not realising this is b8 >not knowing this guy isn’t just fishing for (You)s by pretending to be a paki inb4 >COPE
Leo Johnson
FUCK OFF MUHAMMAD
Nathaniel Martinez
Good luck with reforming all the undesirables of every other society.
Dominic Sanders
FUCK OFF MUHAMMAD
Juan Turner
you already gave up your right to bear spoons an sheit
Nathan Perez
She isn't British; she's a fucking shit skin. She had no business being in Britain in the first place.
Kevin Russell
>without a trial or legal recourse Stop being such a fag, Op. She has legal recourse. She can appeal.
Sebastian Taylor
She was born a British citizen and has had her citizenship revoked and made stateless when others who have done or planned more serious things remain with a state and in a state run prison.
Fuck off, Paco.
Bentley Thompson
Can she?
Fill me in friend.
Hunter Lopez
>She can't be de-radicalised correct and not worth the effort if she could you still have a muzzie cunt
Zachary Sanchez
haha havent heard this joke before xD top post mate
Xavier Jenkins
It can only hapoen because she's bangladeshi. They can't do it to people who are only UK citizens and have no other nationality.
Samuel Reed
>de-radicalised from a dangerous Muslim extremist who believes the west is fundamentally flawed because it opposes an Arab-led global muhammedan caliphate and flies out to Syria to help against it to... a dangerous Muslim extremist who believes the west is fundamentally flawed because it opposes an Arab-led global muhammedan caliphate and doesn't (You)!
She isn't though. She does not have Bangla citizenship.
Sure she can APPLY. But she might not get it.
Chase Hill
> I moved here at 18 > motherland
Probably eastern European, because you said mother, not father.
Oh and please leave, the general public is slightly disgusted by you. :)
Jace Martinez
and what would they do if the criminal remains silent
Justin Miller
>I work for a global law firm in Canary wharf. Almost certainly jewish then
Tyler Rivera
Why don't we revoke the citizenship of Jews who join the IDF? Same shit really.
Nolan Bennett
>Believes the west is fundamentally flawed source on that please mate.
She was fucking groomed by ISIS cunts and promised a halcyon existence in an Islamic utopia and was cruelly awakened to it's realities. She needs serious help not being made a fucking stateless person.
Sebastian Diaz
Fuck him, lawyers give nothing back especially cotporate lawyers our country is still at a net loss when deducting his taxes from healthcare, education for his paki kids etc.
I pray to god every day muslims are exterminated
Lucas Hughes
>become an enemy of the state >”wow why was my citizenship revoked???”
Ryan Perez
Well, the right still exists, except it comes with a "but", that "but" being that if you fail to mention something when questioned that you later rely on, it could harm your defence. So, some level of guilt is established on the street, at arrest, rather than in the court before a jury of your peers. A quick thinking thief can gain an advantage over a vulnerable person who is scared and doesn't want to say the wrong thing without a lawyer. In my opinion, a right isn't a right if it comes with a "but".
Mason Kelly
they think bangladesh wants isis brides
Parker Thompson
>giving aid and comfort to the enemy >willingly/willfully goes behind enemy lines and spreads legs for isis in the usa we call this treason. the penalty is death
Anthony James
She joined ISIS. She's a terrorist. Fuck her. She made her choices and now she has to live with them.
Carter Moore
>Hmmm, I know she went to Syria and all but as someone who's a naturalized UK citizen this is very worrying and sets a pretty alarming precedent.
As someone who is a naturalised citizen too this doesn't worry me in the slightest. Don't join ISIS. And if the British governments take our citizenships away, so what? I'm from another EU country that is very comfy. If you're worried chances are you're from a shithole and need to go back anyway.
Aaron James
they talk about how she can't be made stateless
well, seeing as she went to join the Islamic State, she should be considered a citizen of the Caliphate, revoking her existing British citizenship, and now that the Caliphate is dead she's a citizen under its replacement regime
I'm referring to the right to remain silent upon arrest, y'know, the famous "you have the right to remain silent" phrase?
Caleb Morgan
>white nationalist Well, it's a good thing I'm a constitutionalist libertarian then, isn't it?
Camden Bennett
>Privately educated >Paid my university fees up front
I take nothing from the state mate. Meanwhile my taxes contribute to your fortnightly JSA.
Evan Thompson
>be legally considered a kid >be groomed into joining ISIS >find out it's shit
YEAH LEAVE HER THERE!
Jonathan Smith
Family's lawyers are appealing the decision. It will likely come down to whether she does have bangladeshi citizenship or not. Government maintains she does, but the bangladeshi one disagrees.
Jayden Thompson
>Naturalized citizen >Goes off to join Muslims Extremists You need to go back, Mohammed.
Jaxson Robinson
The high court is the highest law in the land, not the home secretary. You can appeal any decision made against you by the government.
But good luck with that shit when you've publicly stated: >I knew about the killing...but I checked and it was allowed by Islamic law, so that's alright then >I saw a head in a bin and wasn't fazed >I don't reget joining ISIS >There's no proof I did anything wrong >people should feel sorry for me and what I've been through If this girl saw a psychologist, they'd probably diagnose classic psycopathy!
Nathan Sanders
Corporate Lawyer working in Canary Wharf posting on Jow Forums at 12:30 on a work night.
See Also: Things that aren't true.
Jaxson Martin
I think it comes down to whether she automatically has that citizenship via birthright or not.
Connor Thompson
It is that simple, providing they are a dual national. However it is only used in extreme circumstances, such as ISIS fighters trying to return or foreign men running rape gangs in our lands. The people talking about 'muh precedent' are just leftist terror sympathisers, again the Home Secretary will only use this power in extraordinary circumstances.
The idea that you would be stripped of your citizenship if the government found your posts on Jow Forums is just silly, they would simply send you to prison. It is reserved for most atrocious crimes where you are deemed unsafe to ever step foot in the country again.
Dominic Young
>bangladeshi one disagrees.
No surprises there. I'm sure Bangladesh would rather not deal with this headache.
She has a state ISIS and they a have a law, Sharia behead the cunt or bury her in the ground to the shoulders and stone her She'd no less for you
Camden James
You'd be surprised lol.
Adam Young
>groomed You mean “went there of her own will and cognisanse and then found out she was gonna be a rape slave so she tried to come back”.
Justin Hughes
>16 year old rapes and murders child in scotland >gets convicted as an adult
>15 year old joins terrorist state who has committed acts of war against practically everyone including Britain >we should treat her like a kid who was just brainwashed she dindu nuffink anyway
Noah Moore
in that scenario, Syrian or Lebanese Jews would go to Israel to join the IDF & fight the Syrian/Lebanese & pledge loyalty and citizenship to Israel. Then think they'll just go back to their home country like nothing happened.
To be honest I'm asset manager not for from where OP works and I'm shitposting because it's preferable than to be out on the piss and feeling shit.
Luke Morales
eh, you know i seen at my current work the difference between no lawyer, a shitty lawyer and a decent corporate lawyer, it's simply fantastic how the administrative cases crumble when a decent lawyer takes care of them, i myself have to do a lot of gr and participate in a few of those cases (i am an environmental engineer) and when we had no lawyer it was so shitty
had to deal with criminal lawyers too when i worked at customs clearance, i ensure you they are very needed, i respect them
David Turner
Middle class mong
She said she has no regrets
Ayden Wright
NHS Creating a legacy of immigrant scroungers All the other benefits
You are a fucking parasite, why not pay for yout uni fees in your own country then? Thats right you are a leech
Bentley Morgan
Say Mr Javid the omnipotent and omniscient, in all his worldly wisdom has seen and recorded all of Shamima's crimes since the day she was born before handing out his decision then?