What do men actually want?

Yeah OP you should become a fulltime jobless shitposter

>Fuck like a pornstar

Woman do almost nothing in sex apart from sleeping like a wood log and taking it. The fuck youre talking about?

>They want a hot subservient 14-24 yo gf.
Wrong. 20+ is the right number

>who stays at home.
Yes, but only if man can support household by himself.

>will cook and clean
Yeah the same as woman expects that man will know how to fix and build things. Its called being useful in family.

Mmh
Probably the guys think they can both have it soo much better if they found someone else who can support them.
I think it just pisses them off, that they aren’t living a comfortable life.
To show off maybe
But then again I can be completely wrong, I don’t understand on why they care about what the professors do in their lives.

ideal woman would be this actually.

But we know its not reality, so we get what we can.

You cant. you may think Job, but not carer. You dedicate your whole to a carer. You cant dedicate your whole to two things at one. You will be a shitty mom whos kids are raised by nannies, or shitty employee who always leave work to run after kids.

Its a feminist lie that you can have both. You will leave your job for some time to be with your kid, and you will feel guilty cause youre sabotaging your career. Then you will go back to your job and guess what, you will feel guilty that you are missing the time that you could spend with your kid. Its a lose lose situation and you put yourself in that spot.

Butthurt feminists cant make an argument so makes a straw man instead. :^)

Each human wants something different, that something changes all the time and is usually good for a while only if obtained. You talk about these men having opinions on other's love lives; what about the ones in the relationships themselves?

The only reason men and women tolerate each other is because of biology.

If our biological makeup didn't include the reproductive organs and hormones, I guarantee there would be no male-female "friends".

This

>male-female "friends".
I've seen this many times, I have seen it appear genuine. But it's either a not-too close relationship, or it ends poorly. It doesn't help that girls tend to start making sub-factions and declaring war on each other after a while.

>appear genuine
Oh my sweet summer child.

Most women are hypergamous. They're trying to ward hour boyfriend that you will grow dissatisfied with him and dump him after the tingles run out.

a girl "friend" I knew had many more boy "friends" and few girlfriends and one guy said to her

"You know pretty much most guys who hang out with you want to fuck you."

I silently agreed.

Guys have much lower standards than girls and much higher sex drive. Thats just biology.

This.

Your use of the words "dated down" may indicate that you see the world from your own narrow perspective and are projecting your thoughts into what you assume others think. I have a large group of friends with people as you describe and nobody is really talking any shit.

That man has some balls. I hate being in social situations in which I cannot speak my mind to an extent for a long period of time (i.e.: hanging out, traveling...). Befriending girls always leads to that. I'm a poor actor.

Unless they are my coworker

I blatantly hit on every girl that I find attractive.

This is why I only have Male friends

I ain't got time for your bullshit

Opinions are like assholes.

You shouldn't let other people decide how you should live, especially when it comes to love.

I for one think it's amicable for women to date down. A lot of great guys get dealt shit hands, and there's no pitty party for them like there is for poor girls or single mothers.

It's always been to my understanding that I, as a man, want power explicitly so I can pick the perfect woman. I think that's what most men strive for. A pretty girl in jewelry he bought her. Women kinda delved headfirst into the whole ambition and career thing without wondering "why" men wanted those lofty posts in the first place.

My boyfriend washes cars for a living and I'm a basic IT admin , we don't make much money but he has the most beautiful smile and he makes the most of each day. I dumped a tech millionaire because he didn't know how to enjoy life. Its not a simple world to understand and from the outside I'm sure I look like a crazy bitch

As a woman I really think we're so open minded and flexible so long as you are too. Shallow gold digger types exist and I think men who don't really know about women having as full a personalities as their male counterparts can easily fall for actual sociopaths.

There's social climbers male and female all around, all you need to do to not fall into that pit is to have clearly defined your values, morals and personality traits. When you know exactly who you are you know what to look for.

I love this post.

It's so true

Work sucks. We only did it for women in the first place. Still do.

That's not going to change cause the only alternative is proving Oswald Spengler Right and that there's going to be blood spilled for lack of purpose in manhood. The Revolution goes.

I hit on a coworker. I had to learn the "don't shit where you eat" by example. It was a rough couple months.

while not all of this I agree with, I will agree with you wholeheartedly on "When you know exactly who you are you know what to look for".

I see my life ending in two ways with women - either a) Permanently single and 100% career focused
or
b) Married but to someone who is most likely a controlling bitch because I didn't get my shit together.

I'm an emotional retard so I'd probably be most happiest going with option a), even though I might miss out on some good parts of marriage.

My wife is a logistics big shot, that basically controls one third of the traffic between Russia and Europe. I am a barely educated nurse. She left her equally successful jewish husband for me. I asked her many times why and doesn't the fact that I am an underachieving bastard and judgement from peers bothers her. She'd always just laugh and say that whenever her girlfriends talk shit, she just tells them that I fuck her like a beast and make her climax over a dozen time during the night. When I ask her why she married me, she gives the same answer plus adds that she loves me.
Also, the moment when I proposed to her and she took off an expensive looking diamond ring, to put my cheap ass silver ring, was the best moment of my life.
So in my opinion, marrying down isn't really an issue

Cool Story Bro

Boy, how I envy your story. May you have a life-long and wholesome marriage.

Read it and remember it, OP. Truer words havent been spoken on Jow Forums.

Here is the cheap silver ring I'm still rocking, I'd timestamp that shit, but I'm busy putting our daughter to bed.

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Woman like that is hard to find. Unless you really have some beat type of cock that brings her ultimate orgasm every few minutes.

no homo question. How big is your dick? is it avg 6 inch?

You're studying for a PhD and you can't grasp the idea of different people wanting different things. Consider a career in hanging yourself.

It's 17 cm, I'm eurotrash, so I don't know inches.

Length is beyond avg. Avg ir like 15 cm.

Whats the girth?

Yeah she married you cause of your cock. There are like 1 in 25 guys with cock as big as yours. Im like 16 and envy luck guys like you.

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Me and my wife mitigated this with our first child by me staying at home for one and a half year, until his kindergarten begun. So it's possible to have both, just not likely

Well, two centimeters is not that much. I think it has more to do with how I am in bed. I am a deviant and I brought out all of her darkest secrets in bed. She is really submissive and likes it rough so I just pushed the boundaries with over ever encounter. On top of that, her husband was a workaholic and didn't give her enough time. I remember when I busted her lip and left bite marks on her ass, we were panicking that he will notice, but he didn't. Also, not in bed I am still dominant and make sure that we do things my way most of the time and she loves it and of course, you can't be all slaps and.mean words. So there is a lot of touchy feely shit, like small gifts and gentle kisses.

*our every encounter

>Me and my wife mitigated this with our first child by me staying at home
Like user wrote, shes not with kid, but at work and she feels guilty. I had the same situation with my first kid. Husband stayed at home and i was working. You cant get both its just impossible. You either choose carer or kid.

If you choose cares you leave your kid with someone else and by doing that you:
1) rob the child of mother-child bonding time that helps him develop healthy psyche. Males cant do this, sorry its biology.
2) You rob yourself of bonding time and make yourself feel guilty over it. At the start it dont feel bad but when the years go by you feel shittier and depressive.

Really bad parenting model to be honest and when i had my second child i didnt made the same mistake. I felt the difference and it was amazing, but why am i even saying this to you... you cant understand it youre male (dont want to be condescending, just stating fact).

I did this instead of pursuing a career or education, and now life is wonderful with a growing family, and a nice view of the water. Even better is that I had the time to self educate. Philosophy and the Form of Highest Truth destroyed my ego and allowed me to transcend all of time and space so I can shit post forever in eternal bliss.

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How long did was you work day? Since my wife was leaving at 7 and coming back at 16, she had a lot of time with our son during the evening. She was always saying that it's the best way to relax after work, since she missed him so much

>Well, two centimeters is not that much
Actually it is. When you can hit her wall while wast majority of man cant do that then you have an advantage that will make her climax. And i dont want to say that you have bad technique nor that technique doesn't matter, but size matter the most.

Also dont forget that her prev. bf was a jew, which means he was circumcised, which means he had an inch less of a girth than avg guy. Your penis to er is like a Gods gift and even if youre a shitty love, with such a penis you still can make her love you.

not the married guy but I call horseshit on this "mother child" "healthy psche" psychobabble.

Just because you fucked up your life, doesn't mean he will his.

>When you can hit her wall while wast majority of man cant
Huh, never even though of that, but I do hit her cervix sometimes...
Anyway, I always considered myself small, since my best friend has a 34cm shlong
>inb4 faggits
Here we have such thing as sauna, so seeing each other naked isn't a taboo, like with yanks

Im graduated from a popular university.A course of major of social studies and values education,with some units of psychology. And now im in a couseling department.In my opinion towards this thread, i saw in reality that men can do what women can do and women can do some what men can do.A modern and hasty generation is an excellent example to saw this opinion.

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8 am to 5 pm

I get what youre talking about and i did the same thing, but its not enough. those are few hours of day when in actuality you have to be there all the time. Even nights when baby starts to cry and you go get him and sleep with him on your chest. Also breast feeding not feeding from bottles is a BIG difference.

I bet your wife has the same psychological issue that every other working mother has. On the outside it looks nice and working but the core ir rotten and will break and when it happens all hell will break loose. Thanks God i had my 2nd baby in time and i changed my whole way of thinking.

I can still feel the difference between my 1st and my 2nd child when it comes to our bond. First 12 months are THE most important time. if you lose those then you cant fix it. But like i said before - you have to be female to feel it and understand it. I know that for a man it kinda might sound illogical or maybe dumb, but thats just how it is. My husband gave up on trying to figure me out long time ago.

I have a pretty big cock, and it doesn't necessarily get you laid. It isn't necessarily the end-all-be-all some think it is:

a) the girls that want to fuck me, I don't want to fuck;
b) the girls I want to fuck, usually don't want to fuck me; and
c) even if shit aligns, I have to be pretty drunk to go ahead and usually disappear the day after

And even then, I find it hard to fuck a girl I don't "like", as in a softer word for "love". I overshoot, and I don't do it often enough. I consider myself pretty attractive and have a decent status, but I've never made the best out of it.

Also, I've had trouble with past relationships that I blame on my dick being too big, like constant cystitis and sore pussies. Oh, and you cannot get condoms on the spot, as you need the XL type.

Youre not small. Avg size is below 15 cm. You are bigger than 98% of man. Look at graph

>a) the girls that want to fuck me, I don't want to fuck;
>b) the girls I want to fuck, usually don't want to fuck me; and
>c) even if shit aligns, I have to be pretty drunk to go ahead and usually disappear the day after
You sound exactly like my friend. Is your name Arthur by any chance?

Actually, she's on a maternity leave with our daughter right now and her exact words are "How in the hell can Sows do nothing but be with their kids, it's mind numbingly boring. Can't wait to get back to work."
As someone who spent a year and a half going crazy with the first kid, I understand her completely

Hmm i know some guy named Arthur. Might be the same guy.

Nah, sorry. Also, I don't have a 34 cm dick. That's not a long dick, that's literally the recorded world record: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonah_Falcon

Again, having a big dick is mostly for that ego boost when you unzip it before sex, or for pleasure (for her). Other than that, it's something that goes completely unnoticed.

no two women are the same.
no two men are the same.

Also, to the married guy I say - take all opinions with a grain of salt (mine included)

Just because a woman may have been in a similar situation to your wife, does not mean the outcome will be the same.

Why?
Each woman has a completely different upbringing - parents, people she interacted with, decisions she made/didn't make, behaviours she took on/chose not to take on.

People are similar, but to say that
x(action) leads to y(result)

when speaking about humans, is utterly ridiculous. There are many variables which affect each outcome in life.

Most important thing above all is to enjoy yourself and don't sweat the stupid shit (like all these variables).

If shit happens, shit happens - you will deal with it at the time.

Life's way too short to worry.

That's something only a shitty mother would say, to be fair.

Yeah, he would always be so fucking proud of his thing in a public sauna at the pool, but in private he'd always bitch to me that most of the girls just get scared by it and the ones that get exited by it, scare him. Well, he finally found a gf, who was willing to try and make it work, it took them over a month of stretching and slow sex until they got the deed done. It's kinda sad and hilarious at the same time

Loving yourself isn't selfish at all.It's really about knowing your value and your worth as a woman and we should never apologize for having high standards in love,because the right man or the man who really wants to be in your life will rise up to meets those standards.Also for homosexuals and bisexuals.

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Nah, she's a great mom, it's just begin a good parent is exhausting. Of course we can just slap a cartoon in front of the kids and fuck off to do our own thing, but I much rather teach my son how to play checkers and chess while tired, then see him rotting his brain while relaxed.
There's always a trade off, you either are a good parent who is tired of their shit, or a bad one, who's does the bare minimum and then just relaxes

>no two women are the same.
>no two men are the same.

Yeah but biological impulses are more or less the same. Unless you are sociopath or psychopath. In Sacramento where i lived we had "working mother support group". Our main therapist Dr.Zwareck evolutionary behavioral scientist and a Dr in Psychology who specialized in Mother-baby relationships, evolutionary behavioral aspects of it. Its pretty same for vast majority of healthy woman. Most woman who dont have this type of downside are sociopaths or psychopaths who dont have empathy feeling so they usually fake it. Its biology and like i said its the same for vast majority of people.

In our group there were many successful woman who also thought that its possible to get both, but they had to face the harsh truth, that for every decision there are pros and cons.

Also you dont have to convince me. Youre a male and unless you educate yourself on the subject you wont even come close to understanding the issue.

One day you will face the reality and your utopian world view will be shattered when you will be forced out of your bubble.

My agreeableness is with you.

Who the heck cares, honestly?? All this stuff is garbage.
I went to get my PhD at an Ivy League coming from a non-super wealth background. I fell in love with a townie, had two kids, now work outside of the academy making better money with better benefits.

The academy is such a shit scam, it isn’t even funny. It’s a “prestige” system, not a system for living a happy life.
I could never imagine myself with some obnoxious person always wanting to have intellectual conversations with me. It would drive me nuts.

I work at work. I am intellectual all the time. When I am at home chilling, I want my husband and his big giant cock and his good cooking and his real love. Not some stuck up white collar dude who can’t throw down. My husband is 100% man and manly.

>Youre a male and unless you educate yourself on the subject you wont even come close to understanding the issue.
Is this a very subtle Troll?

We want a nice job that isn't too stressful, but puts us into position of power and importance factor, while getting a nice pay.

Getting a nice pay = Having your own apartment/house, comfy interior, reliable good car, being able to afford things, save up and have some extra cash just in case.

Having your own place and extra cash means you are independent and have more time on your hands, which in return you can invest into relationship.

All this combined creates a man that is able to be the dominant figure in relationship and in return can control a woman that is submissive slut type of girl for you, because she knows you will and can take care of her, while she just enjoys your presence and respects you in return.

So, what do men want? A respectful smart woman, that not necessary has a job and carer, but that respects you for who you are and in the end understands and is turned on by the idea that she is submissive little sex servant for you by the end of the day and that as a man you will respect and take care of her for pleasing you sexually and knowing she is being controlled by a male figure.

It's not that hard, but becoming a man with good job etc.. kind be a fucking bitch to begin with. That's why so many men are in their late 20s and only figuring shit out, especially those brought up with single mothers and zero male look up figure.

t. Someone who has been through this shit and had a bunch of women that fell in love with me and always admitted how much they adore me for taking 'care' of themselves and treating them like sluts, but also being able to show love and compassion and so on.

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Those are woman issues heavily related to woman hormonal changes, psychology and biology.

You cant understand it unless you educate yourself on the subject. Why is it so hard to understand?

Nah I have to completely disagree with that. About a third of my friends are female and we have been on friendly terms for more than a decade. We have never exhibited behavior to one another different than with friends of the same sex. It might be a difference is socialization as I have been surrounded by girls for as long as I can remember. I always date outside of my friend circle.

Self awareness is a must.We need to be always prepared and ready with a great haste.

I love how some man (me included sometimes) make threads about "how to talk to woman" and at the same time think that they can understand womans biology or hormons. Its just funny.

Also i agree with you on the family issue, my gf also have said the same thing. Mainly 'cause her sister was working mother and she saw all the down sides it brings for mother and baby relationships.

I don't care if you had the best studies the most wealth or everything in the world.

If you start telling someone else what they are doing isn't going to work, just because you and however many other people say it won't work think so, you are trash.

You think you know better than everyone how to run their lives - how about instead of trying to run others lives, use that effort into trying more to run your own life?

>It's always been to my understanding that I, as a man, want power explicitly so I can pick the perfect woman.
I agree completely and the thing is that once you reach a position of power, bitches become replaceable, so you can pick anyone you want. Hell, that's what I plan on doing. I would keep 5 young bitches for myself and replace all of them every time they got too old for me.

Im graduated from a popular university.A course of major of social studies and values education,with some units of psychology. And now im in a couseling department.For me, we, humans are totally equal in all lines.It's up to us on how we managed it.Thank me later.

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Current broad social power dynamics and expectations have not caught up to the progress we have achieved when ti comes to integrating women into our political, capital, and educational landscape. As such, there are still social expectations that feel unfair and constrictive.

This is also to your benefit, however. In the sexual marketplace, you have a lot more freedom when it comes to selecting a partner than a male does. You an either look for someone who is generally on the same level as you, or marry up or down depending on which one you prefer dealing with.

The trickiest part is doing so in time so that you can still go through multiple relationships, select the best one, and marry and give birth in time before biology catches up and you risk more pregnancy complications. Women are kind of screwed that way, incapable of dedicating their life both to being mothers and having great careers. You can make some accommodations to an extend, of course, but all of this needs to be planned carefully according to your preferences.

If you are born with a huge penis it’s the same. Women really value that, and you don’t have any feelings of attachment to them because you know you can get another.

You can just wait until a woman comes along who will care for you out of respect and awe for your massive member.

It looks like your ego is talking and you cant accept the fact that there are better models than yours. But hey its your life that not my, just when the breakdown comes remember these words - "You could have prevented it all'...

Just ignore that dick head, hes obviously low IQ male who dont care about woman issues anyway.

For what reason why some people study and learn from each and everyday? You're nothing but a livingstock.Or part of a mediocrity.

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>no two women are the same.
>no two men are the same.

Well yes and no. If everyone was a completely unique snowflake and we couldnt extrapolate broader trends based on common factors, statistics would be useless.

The truth is we live in a determinist system where free will as most people understand it doesn't really exist. We are biological robots who make decisions based on their biology, past, and environment. Gender and the social pressures that form it is an important facet of decision making, and thus general trends about male and female behavior can be extrapolated. The more common factors you incorporate, the more predictable the outcomes will be.

Sure I have plenty of ego.

Except I don't use it to bring others down, only to bring others up.

But in a brutal way.For the person who having a great sensitivity

>A course of major of social studies and values education,with some units of psychology.
Oh boy you either didnt understand whats what or you finished some SJW courses.

>For me, we, humans are totally equal in all lines.
Its wrong on so many levels.

here also:

youtube.com/watch?v=H4S2tgih3Zs

It shields you from new information and makes you THINK you bring others up while in actuality your disinformation and fear from facts and science make them even worse than they were before met you.

Youre not the firs nor the last person whos too conservative to bring yourself up to date with modern times and science.

Ohter term is,i have a 2 major subjects.

That's why i said, "on how can we managed it"

I think this is a troll, no human can be this dumb and ignorant... but then again this is Jow Forums where autists are larpin around sharing their retarded world view.

My way doesn't work for everyone, but It works for some.

Sometimes in our world we need lightning jolts to wake people up from their pity parties and realise that until they actually accept responsibility for themselves and their situation, their life will not change.

youtube.com/watch?v=My6ZWYldBRI

drop them.

Its a fucking troll, stop talking to him. Most man understand that woman are complicated especially when it comes to relationships with newborns. Dont waste your time on that troll.

Deserved by the brutals.

there were so many worst posts in here and these are the ones singled out?

lol

>Im graduated from a popular university.A course of major of social studies and values education,with some units of psychology. And now im in a couseling department.For me, we, humans are totally equal in all lines.
Let me guess - you have bright color hair, youre overweight and you hate males and want to smash western patriarchy?

I am that supposed "troll" and this is exactly what I am saying

Men and women ARE complicated - which is why I say we should appreciate everyone and not try to crush their hopes and dreams.