What is MKUltra? It is the CIA program working on mindcontrol methods which (((officially))) was stopped in 1973. They kidnapped drunks, prostitutes, homeless, and whoever else they could find from the streets to perform these experiments on them (next time you see a crazy hobo, maybe you realize why he is so crazy) How is it performed? Basically they torture and stress you until your personality breaks into multiple people and you develop a dissociative identity disorder also known as multiple personality disorder. These methods include outright torture, waterboarding, sleep deprivation, being forced to look at strobing lights en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dazzler_(weapon) youtube.com/watch?v=ghpjvXZ-5JY and basically everything else that induces stress and Trauma. They furthermore aid it with the use of drugs (likely LSD or something similar). Eventually they build in some trigger, like always having a certain picture (like the monarch butterfly) on the wall during the process or making the subject wear a special shirt making it aware that the torture starts resulting in a certain personality they desire to come to the front. These new personalities can be then shaped pretty much freely and often dont know about the other personalities. It appears that the younger the subject is the better this works.
Is this still being done? You tell me youtube.com/watch?v=4DrdvXHA8Qk Some possibly are just druguse or fake (like the first one possibly is) but I advice to check the Britney Spears one at 7:25
Pic related an artwork of Kim Noble who underwent heavy abuse resulting in her personality being split. Extra attention on the Handkerchief below the kid, likely "drawing" the Pizza related map on it right now wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/32795 Catching fluids as kind of a souvenir
patents.google.com/patent/US6506148B2/en >Nervous system manipulation by electromagnetic fields from monitors no idea if this works, but I just dont believe you can remotecontroll people like that. same for pic related (where i have no idea how legit it is)However this gets me to another bit:
However i believe that like with the ormer stuff it is impossible to remotecontroll. However what it likely does do is put people in a certain state of mind, increasing or decreasing anxiethy, altering ones behaviour towards authority, reducing independent thought and so on, but not outright control people like with MKUltra. This then may play into stuff like pic related (no idea how legit that is, saw it spooking around the web for a while) or the patent mentioned , which I doubt enables you to control someone, but plants a thought, an idea, or oppinion in him, which he can either resist or accept as his own. If you then change the state with the first practice to have less independent or criticle thought it may increase the effect of this patent. If the patent actually works that is. Good chance the brain just wont recognize the voice.
However this wouldnt be MKUltra but some offshoot of it.
The first part of your post describes the alfa tests they made before creating subjects. It's was scientific experiments. Decent MK subjects are made differently. You got to program them since young age, but a lot of subjects never make it The part about mind splits is correct, they then reprogram all personalities, using a lot of different methods.
Matthew Collins
Post monarch triggers ITT to ward off all but the most resiliently programmed glowies.
Using drugs was part of the alpha tests, drugs are useless to create a good subject. Drugs were a shortcut that led nowhere.
Luis Murphy
They don't need to torture, just suggest.
Lucas Harris
Another way to control the people is by abusing our social traits and behavioral patterns. One easy example is the media. The media isnt there to tell you what you think, but to tell you to think what other people think. They tell you everyone hates trump, is pro refugees etc. and everyone who opposes this is seen as a bigoted racist asshole. They do this by repeating the oppinions over and over, having fake polls and so on and dont even leave room for any opposing oppinion. Since we then think everyone else thinks that way, and that we will be socially orchestrized if we oppose that oppinion, we dont speak up about it, eventually even conform to those making it appear in real life like the amount of people who are fed up with all the bullshit are far lower since they never speak up out of fear for being cast out of society. This results in information contrary to the narrative spreading slower and fewer as well as people not binding together to change things, as they believe noone else wants to do so. Shills serve the same purpose, they are not there to make you change your mind, but appear as if there are people having that oppinion, making that oppinion seem more prevelant, like the media does too. Basically en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird
However, while this certainly comes from the same branch of research the methods used are completly different, as well as the purpose. MKUltra is meant to put a single individual in a role of total submission to his handlers to fit whatever purpose. The mediabrainwashing is widespread and serves to keep the population in a docile and obedient state while supporting the system independently
yes, i need to condense it a bit to make it fit into a post. but the general method should be correct. it maybe should be noted that this is what is known as the Monarch Programming whereas MKUltra was research to find out any way to controll people and populations.
HOLY GHOST BREAST MILK NEGLECTFUL MOTHER BIG TITS PEOPLE LOOKING AT YOU WITH DISGUST TRYING TO FRAME YOU AS A PEDO EVERYBODY AROUND YOU THROWING A TEMPER TANTRUM FOR STUPID SHIT *SURPRISE BACK/HEAD/KIDNEY PAIN*
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Oliver Brown
MKUltra was expanded to effect everyone without direct contact. Of course it is not called as such now. Great thread OP. I've got some crazy super-flu or I'd contribute.
Gabriel Bailey
Mel Gibson's movie Conspiracy Theory was about how conspiracy theorists are MK Ultra (different program technically) subjects, used to crowd-source conspiracy research for a third party.
Brody Gonzalez
pic related is a supposed list of the different programming types (citation needed but regardless from what we see we can assume these are the different archetypes wether or not those are the names used)
alpha: breaks down personality to make you subjectable to other programming. (would guess this is the basic MKUltra programming initiating dissociative identity disorder) basically described in beta: (sex)slave programming. making them a mindless slave. reading that part made me thing of McCanns which likely offered their child too for sexual abuse in exchange for money and influence, just werent told that they will take the kids whole.
delta: the sleeper agent programming. the likes of Nikolaz Cruz (even though he seemed to not actually have shot and merely was made believe he did)
theta: psychic reseach "training" makes me think of psychomantis in metal gear, or the remoteviewing stuff of the CIA Basically about the practice of visiting and scouting areas through the consciousness while the body stays elsewhere, allowing, if you trust the document, to even see events far in the past and other planets (Mars in this example couple thousand years ago) cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00788R001700210016-5.pdf
interesting take, but wasnt Mel just some MKUltra subject that went rogue and freed himself from the others? it didnt appear like the info he gathers is used by anyone.
Some links to Occultism (the whole thing I believe to be just ancient satanic brainwashing techniques refined with modern psychology and drugs) nypost.com/2018/08/07/parkland-shooter-blamed-demons-in-his-head-for-school-massacre/ (will go into the connection of MKUltra and Satanism in a bit where also probably come the stories of demons influencing people to do that bullshit comes from).
Lanza was on psycho drugs, which is a common theme and we know LSD was used for MKUltra, so why wouldnt other drugs have more subtle effects towards this regard? also and it was a false flag farily obviously (the linked and next post) archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/191921512/#191923385
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Kalamazoo_shootings >After his arrest, Dalton confessed to committing the shootings.[34] However, he blamed his actions on his Uber mobile app, claiming that its symbol resembled that of the Order of the Eastern Star, and that it took over his body during the events after he pressed the button of a new app resembling the Devil when it abruptly popped up appearently his grandfather was a mason and his grandmother in the order of the eastern star which is the thot offshoot of the masons
cant tell on the other instances, but chances are they were
Dominic Rodriguez
that very well may be fake, as its some no name and probably wasnt live either. however that video has some other interesting clips in it which is why i still took it, especially the britney spears one at 7:25
>Drugs were a shortcut that led nowhere. You've never fucked with some one on acid before apparently. You can convince them of all kinds of stupid shit.
According to Fritz Springmeyer (in this interview: whale.to/b/sp/springmeier1.html) there are two million people in America who have been MK-Ultra'd. As in have been actually subjected to systematic, mind-splitting torture:
"A very conservative estimate - I shouldn't even say estimate because I have computed it from about seven different angles - a conservative figure is 2 million Americans have been programmed with trauma based total mind control."
This would mean that 1 in 150 Americans have been MK-Ultra'd. Which sounds insane, but who knows. I have taken all the red pills. The real world underneath the normie facade is indeed uncanny. Could be true.
ct.gov/oca/lib/oca/sandyhook11212014.pdf >While a school official did share this recollection with OCA interviewers, authors cannot independently confirm this recollection, and other records indicate Mrs. Lanza may have already had an appointment with the community psychiatrist set up at the time of the Danbury Hospital emergency department visit. Staff from OCA spoke with this psychiatrist during the course of this investigation in an effort to identify and obtain records related to the doctor’s evaluation and treatment of AL. The doctor indicated that all treatment records were destroyed.
>The doctor indicated that all treatment records were destroyed." Of course they were.
In both cases it seems like the 2 didnt do the shooting though, but merely were talked into thinking they were or at least talked into admitting it collection of info on False flags, from 9/11 to parkland archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/204348931/
What's your take on the NPC meme being an attempt to make people think like they're not goats, but absolutely are? It came around the same time Elon Musk was talking about Neuralink with Joe Rogan, was shilled to an extent where it completely replaced "normie" for an entire week, and shills throughout the internet love to parrot it.
Luis Edwards
How MKUltra and elite Pedophillia go hand in hand Disney has club 33, I repeat, thirty-three, like the masons favorite number showing the connection to those guy. Remember all the popular MKUltrad teeny stars coming from Disney. And how are people MKUltrad? They are tortured and abused until the personality breaks, and creates new personalities to cope with the thing to protect itself at which point the new personality/personalities can be shaped. They probably use some drugs to enhance the effect while also building in a trigger to bring the desired personality to the front. Like giving them some certain shirt before the abuse starts or whatever. And since those kids have to be groomed/abused to be superstars you can be sure they think they can not only create the next superstar willing to promote their agenda, but also give all the pedophilic elites some fun time by letting them do abuse the kids. quit pro quo
no coincidences so many of their stars have some mental collapse later in their career, Britney Spears, Miley Cyrus a week after pic related was released FBI released the pedosymbols by the way. any chance someone got pissed?
also note: A bear, fat hairy faggot, snuggling with a barely clothed young boy furthermore orange is the only colour that adds to 33 in (Pythagorean) Gematria.
it was an attempt to demonize the name callers framing them as attackers of character. ad hominem is never a good thing.
Gabriel Gutierrez
NPC meme is as old as the internet i believe, pic related. its just that there were recent news about people not having an inner voice/dialogue that it gained new traction psychologytoday.com/us/blog/pristine-inner-experience/201110/not-everyone-conducts-inner-speech (cant find good news on it now, but there were some articles) and this boosted the NPC meme. so i believe it was fairly natural
the building I'm in came after MKUltra but some of the patients lived through those years. mostly the old as fuck guys. pretty much every one of them is gone. And the two guys who are clearly of high intelligence seem to be purposely held back for no real reason. Basically they aren't getting out anytime soon.
Yeah the system is pretty bad and I don't trust it because every generation has thought that they were the most enlightened. I get flack for doing what they ask of me but i know the longer i resist the system the worse it'll get for me. Even now I'm worried about getting stuck in the system for punitive reasons. I don't tell them the whole truth. I will get out of it.
But its fucking sinister as hell the fact that it happened in Canada just half a lifetime ago.
Never trust the government.
Asher Scott
shit, doesnt say the date as it was capped too short after, but i did safe the image in august 2016 and it was around for some time already i assume
Gabriel Thompson
>NPC meme is as old as the internet i believe, pic related It was always used as vidya slang before (might correlate with the push for vidya), but the entire NPC Wojak variant originated in September of 2018 and was HEAVILY forced upon. It was supposedly based on MSM reports all using similar phrases and words on the exact same reports, and thus being "NPC-like".
Brayden Cox
to be honest, the inner voice isn't always good. Sometimes its worth it to quiet it down. Its called inner peace for a reason.
those NPCs might be blessed since they'll never know how stupid they are.
Caleb Perry
Also, within days of the NPC meme shilling, neopagans started adopting it to attack Christianity en masse.
Michael Murphy
do you use windows 10? or are you using a phone?
Benjamin Harris
>means of mindcontrol there is no such thing NPCs don't have a mind, they already are drones, from birth on
why would he ask him about the pizza related map? they can take DNA and get another copy of the kid they raped in a few years. if they are raping 4 year olds then 4 year later, and every 6 months after that, they can get a new clone, they just start a new clone every 6 months or more CHINA AND ISRAEL HAVE IMPORTED MORE WHITE EGGS AND SPERM THAN ANY OTHER COUNTRY THINK ABOUT IT WHY? BECAUSE THEY CLONE AND RAPE WHITES
Lucas Campbell
the fuck this an attempt at a brainworm?
Jacob Cook
look deeper at Sutherland Springs church shooting this one was deep state all the way
James Bailey
right now? windows.
rundown?
Samuel Bell
you can reply to more than one post in a single post. see.
Jace Young
Holy ghost comes from the al roker video, newb.
Benjamin Hernandez
do you know about snippingtool.exe? use the run box to run it
Elijah Hernandez
It is a list of typical triggers and punishments/rewards for mind control subjects. My handler is a predictable kike bitch.
Jacob Martin
Bamp
Michael Kelly
Bump.
Jordan Wilson
+LEVEL UP+ snippingtool added to skills. meme power +9000
Jackson Smith
Holy crap he really is on pause.
Hudson Fisher
something tells me the next step would be to delete system32. no thanks.
Jayden Peterson
Wait, what?
You're a Brazilian and you have an MK-Ultra handler?
(I have had strange stuff happen to me too... Hmmm...)
Nolan Jones
the snipping tool is tool in the accessory folder in your start menu that lets you select a portion of your screen and save it as an image.
Nolan Jackson
its just a tool that grabs images from your screen. it comes will all windows systems
Nolan Murphy
This country is full of (((templars))), (((fremasons))), (((jews))), (((new christians))), (((fabians))), (((communists))), (((ex-nazis))), ... So, yes, this place has all that crazy shit you read in the Alex Jones website.
Brandon Moore
another one: Pic related is the screen of Viacom on Timesquare. If you didnt hear about this company it owns various TV channels like MTV, CBS with the all seeing eye, Viva with the 2 sets of opposing Vs (similar to the star of "david", will provide it in a bit). Comedy Central (CC/33) and for us most importantly Nickelodeon (the orange colour being a good additional hint to masonry and Viacom), Like Disney they also feature a lot of Childstars. The boy you see on the screen is Desmond Napoles, 10 year old drag queen and icon of the LGBT community. Of course pushing ones degeneracy upon a kid (according to the mother he decided on his own at the age of 2 to be a Drag Queen when he first saw them on TV...) is not enough. Look at the spiral that they had to put on his head giving again the pedosymbolisn. Coincidently sexual abuse is related to satanic abuse as well as MKUltra as well as drugs which desmond seemingly gets too youtube.com/watch?v=zIl_2uj7340 In the video you see one of them trying to give Desmond something, to which the other says "He had one of those already" so probably nothing normal to drink.
desmondisamazing.com/ >Desmond’s personal drag style has evolved over the years. Currently, he is most influenced by the colorful club kids of 1990s NYC nightlife So what is Clube kids? en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Alig >During this time, Alig and other regular clubgoers began creating flamboyant personas, and later became known as "Club Kids". The Club Kids wore outrageous costumes that former Club Kid and celebutante James St. James later described as "part drag, part clown, part infantilism".[9] They were also known for their frequent use of ketamine (known as Special K), Ecstasy, Rohypnol, heroin, and cocaine.
And one of the guys in that vid is appearently Michael Alig himself (as an autist im naturally faceblind, so look yourself if its the same guy) >After The Limelight was closed by federal agents and an investigation found that Gatien was allowing drugs to be sold there, Melendez was fired. Shortly thereafter, he moved into Alig's Riverbank West apartment[18][19] On the night of March 17, 1996, Alig and his roommate, Robert D. "Freeze" Riggs, murdered Melendez after an argument in Alig's apartment over many things, including a long-standing drug debt.[20] Alig has claimed many times that he was so high on drugs that his memory of the events is unclear. >After Melendez's death, Alig and Riggs did not know what to do with the body. They initially left it in the bathtub, which they filled with ice. After a few days, the body began to decompose and became malodorous. After discussing what to do with Melendez's body and who should do it, Riggs went to Macy's to buy knives and a box. In exchange for 10 bags of heroin, Alig agreed to dismember Melendez's body. He cut the legs off, put them in a garbage bag, cut off the head and put it in another bag, and stuffed the rest into a box. Afterwards, he and Riggs threw the box into the Hudson River.[21] This is who the parents led roam around their child.
Also back to Viacom The guy in the pic is Dan Schneider, producer for various shows on Nickelodeon. And here he is with Jennette McCurdy, actress from iCarly who you can also see here youtube.com/watch?v=xdNZjxJ0ifg >Hey Dan Schneider [...] Look what you have done to me
Yep, an unreliable source described her as a short white women with long waivy hair. Probably some hippie boomer living near me. I think she got me when I was 5 years old, they keep an eye in public schools and other "safe" places for children.
Hunter Diaz
now it gets into real tinfoil territory Let us take a look into the esotheric side of this, where it meets the satanism and the occult The stories of alien abductions and demonic possessions are all pretty similar They often run in the family, include violent sexual acts (like anal probing), unableness to move or speak and a general sense of being scared. Also both are reported to just stop when calling out to Christ for help Now there are people that claim aliens come around and give us knowledge and technology. Think of Paul Hellyer, former minister of defense of canada cnet.com/news/canadas-ex-defense-minister-aliens-would-give-us-more-tech-if-wed-stop-wars/ or Podesta rambling on about alien disclosure. Now I assume everyone knows about Pizzagate here, which brings me to the next person talking a lot about ayys giving us technology, Boyd Bushman youtube.com/watch?v=4b4Hvlu7MGU at 2:36 you can see the pedotriangle dangling in the background. What did the demons and fallen angels do in the past? They gave humanity knowledge we arent supposed to have yet, same the ayys do now. And if you know about Pizzagate you also know how its all about satanism So we have satanic sodomizers talking about (((ayys))) giving us technology. The sodomy supposedly makes one also more receptive to the spiritual, kind of a shortcut, but probably like falling off a cliff is the shortcut of getting down from a mountain. You can be sure that the higher ups underwent the same practices as their victims (just without the murder at the end) which results in a) Brainwashing, they will eventually thing this is normal behavior, especially the kids, and later will continue the practice 2. Blackmail, one steps out of line you expose the crimes they did during those rituals III: Shortcut to spirituality. dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5398625/Demon-voices-school-gunman-attack-cops-called-39-times.html >cruz said demons told him to shoot up the school
I believe: Grey Alien= Demons aka spirits of dead Nephilim Reptillian=Fallen Angels, like Satan, the fallen angel that appeared in Eden in form of a serpent (reptile) and later the dragon Nordics/Tall whites/Pleiadians=angels/inner earthers Remember that the UFO community claims Reptillians created the grays. In this case it would be the case too as the fallen angels mated with humans, creating the nephillim whose spirit traditionally are the Demons. Thus the reptillians created them by mating with humans.
Interestingly ritual abuse, as well as demonic possessions, as well as ayy abductions, all feature sodomy archive.li/pIC4M "Coincidently" around the area of the anus there is the rootchakra located. What is the purpose of this one? chakras.info/root-chakra/ >Security, safety >Survival >Basic needs (food, sleep, shelter, self-preservation, etc.) >Physicality, physical identity and aspects of self >Grounding >Support and foundation for living our lives
Remember how rapevictims often are left Traumatized their whole life? Same area. They trap their victims in an endless feeling of being insecure and vulnarable to have them controllable by corrupting their Root Chakra, and do this by sodomizing them as well as other forms of torture. This seems to be specifically done in satanic brainwashings where the subjects also are forced to be fucked and get fucked by animals youtube.com/watch?v=gVDIYFSygLg
the root chakra is your survival instincts. only if you rose above the constant fear of death you are able to actually process new experiences and evaluate them, see them from all angles outside of the threat they pose (sacral chakra), after that comes the solar plexus chakra responsible for our self esteem and self worth for which we have to see us in context of the new experiences and how we handle those. only once you love and value yourself you can start loving others (heart chakra), and love goes through the stomach, solar plexus>heart. next comes the throat chakra and the best speaches are those done by talking from your heart, what you truely care about and communication is the job of the throat chakra. Once you can formulate the truth properly there comes understanding and insight, the third eye chakra, and from this understanding you realize that everything is connected with another, the crown chakra
by putting you in a constant state of fear and anxiety they lock you in the lowest state of conciousness, occupied only with survival unable to really process any experiences. Early traumata like circumcission can alter your brain enough to effect your entire life. All the fear propaganda all around merely is there to lock you into the lowest state of conciousness controlled by fear.
There is also the reptillian brain in charge of pretty much the same as the root chakra, survival instinct. Some people are "entirely" controlled by this area in the brain with every act only being there for survival. Stealing money from some guy, or even murdering people that threaten your lifestyle. The temptations of the flesh. The abuse and sodomy affecting the lowest chakra which is the easiest effected (iE through sodomy) due to its connection with the material.
The Serpent is a common symbol for evil because just as this chakra and conciousness is the lowest so is the snake crawling at the lowest on the ground representing the conciousness of the individual.
This can all be summerized to "weakening ones mental and spiritual fortitude in whatever possible way" to make them controllable. If they are controllable to humans they also are to spirits and at that point the rituals and symbols come into play to call demons, as they are not omnipresent and otherwise would just miss the opportunity to take control
Some anons account on something related archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/170561209/#170581818 >I have this early childhood memory and I am swarmed with fear currently when I write this. It's hard. I remember that it was night and I was probably 3-4 and I was in my room alone. I saw this classic flyng alien plate stop in front of my window. >I also have another memory. An alien pictured on the wardrobe again in the middle of the night, it was only made from light. >Also around this time I started wanting to be alone and perform this weird sexual thing where I would prostrate so that my ass is up and vulnerable. >I am not gay to this day and I remember doing this once. >WHAT THE FUCK totally mindfucked atm.
and archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/174267972/#174300829 >Last year I have this weird dull pain between my scrotum and anus, couldn't sit without a donut pillow. 6 weeks of antiobiotics, lot of painkillers, nothing works. In january I had an Ayahuasca ceremony, in the deepest of the journey had this strong urge to pee, I don't know how I reached the bathroom but remember that the urine was dark green almost black. Since that the pain disappear. Weirder part is that the day before the ceremony I had lot of synchronicities and strange things happened. I think that root chakra was retaining some emotional stuff and Ayahuasca help me to release it. >So, I think there's some truth in the chakra thing.
also in >It appears that the younger the subject is the better this works pic related
I also made a Discord since my Nazi UFO threads got shut down. Main theme is still that, but we expended to other subjects too. If you want to catch up with me: discord gg/qGApkX people on there are pretty autistic but also knowledgable
Alternatively maybe my Blog which has one bit about everything i will post in this thread, but also on my other threads knowledgeofancients.blogspot.com/
Logan Gutierrez
Another thing is that appearently the brain goes into the alpha state when watching TV. fastcompany.com/3060491/what-happened-to-my-brain-after-a-month-without-watching-tv >“There have been EEG studies that demonstrate that television watching converts the brain from beta wave activity to alpha waves, which are associated with a daydreaming state, and a reduced use of critical thinking skills.”
This is the state which you achive shortly before and during sleep, and also stay in most of the time as a child. This state is for the organization of the previously intaken information and embedding it into your (sub)conciousness. This state allows you to take in more information easier at the cost of the critical thinking thus making you also more subjectable to manipulation through TV propaganda obviously the constant change of the brainstate influences the brain physically as well bloombergquint.com/technology/screen-time-changes-structure-of-kids-brains-60-minutes-says#gs.1UEwelM
This blog is right, everybody just ignore it is happening or actively participate. It is a grave set of crimes and war treaty violations, along with huge concerns about national sovereignity and security. But I guess being a shabbos goy is more important...
She had black long waivy hair, I remembered it now.
Isaac Long
some stuff on conciousness since we are talking about how to effect this
considdering that ayys are spiritual and that the remote viewing project was called "stargate" you basically get the story of the stargate series, but instead of traveling physically to other worlds they visited them in spirits and met other entities, (((ayys))) there.
cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00788R001700210016-5.pdf page 18 shows basically a cut through of a toroid as the shape of the universe. The toroid form can more or less be found in different symbolism like the seed of life or the black sun which seem like a shematic display of it. It also mentions the holographic nature of reality, which usually gets interpreted as "this world is a simulation". simulation theory is accurate to describe the events and properties of this world, but its implications are wrong. this world is more like a simulation than people care to admit, which makes sense since simulations simulate reality and thus have to function on a similar principles. but i dont think reality is a simulation.
Simulation theory is just rehashed genesis with a masonic front. you have God, the divine creator and switch it with some pleb outside the matrix that build the simulation. you have the spiritual realm you switch out with another layer of the material realm. In some variations like the saturn moon matrix one of icke you have satan/saturn and instead of being the one talking you into sin and corrupting and lying it casts a projection that is the cause for all the bad. Masons believe in a purely mechanical universe afaik and that would be perfectly it
Another interesting thing in it, page 11 >contrary to what everyone knows is so, it may not be the brain that produces conciousness- - but rather conciousness that creates the appearence of the brain this implies on one side that determinism is bullshit as our thoughts and mind isnt just a reaction to outside stimula and enables free will because of it. it also implies that the conciousness is not coming from the brain itself, that its something outside the brain and heavily implies the existence of something soullike not bound to the body
I consider this world to be like a thought or dream of God. Then those vibrations all around us might actually be kind of brainwaves and the different charges around us neural impulses (archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/198882770/#198890927). i think in that concept also lies the holy trinity Imagine this world like a dream, or thought of God. In your dream your mind/conciousness makes up the entire world. This is the holy spirit. You can then appear as an avatar of yourself in it and interact with people directly. This would be the equivalent of the son. Then there is the you outside the dream which then possibly is the Father. Now considering the occult principle of As above, so below, we can deduce that the higher realms relate to the lower ones, like our, this, world relates to our dreams.
>1In the beginning was the Word (Logos), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Now imagining that "in the beginning was the word" actually meant "thought" or "concepts" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logos than it pretty much fits i believe
>What is MKUltra? its bullshit diversion to make normies think that mindcontrol is some special operation while the actual mind control is in schools tv movies etc. they want you to think that only some people get mind controled while all of you are
and the weird behavior of actors and singers is because they are fucked with on a separate level. but it's not mkultra.. it's just a tonn of degenerate shit they are being dragged through by their handlers, producers etc etc.. + drugs obviously and just a lot of mental strain
so.. there is no mkultra. it's all just a fake psyop for normies to talk about. they have a bunch of those psyops ready for any normy to find when a normie for some reason starts asking wrong questions.. etc
also rapppers are gay, especially gaYngsta rapppers. etc etc
Jaxson Rogers
>its bullshit diversion to make normies think that mindcontrol is some special operation while the actual mind control is in schools tv movies etc. all that is the result of MKUltra research. the traumabased programming is just one part, and if you read i go into multiple different aspects of it.
also i hope you dont seriously suggest that traumabased mindcontrol isnt a thing at all
Hes a glow nigger trying to correct the record on you. He clearly said its "all fake" and that other factors cause people to have dissassociative personality disorders such as "drugs"
exhaustive deep dive into MKUltra and all thaose involved youtu.be/LQucESRF3Sg its a 10/10
Michael Sullivan
tl;dw? anything especially interesting in there`? i did save it to watch later
Levi Mitchell
its the entire history of mkultra detailed from the beginning using CIA docs
Nathaniel Young
anything majorly important i missed?
Evan Gonzalez
lol.. dumb ass normies thats why they always win
Brandon Hernandez
>traumabased mindcontrol isnt a thing at all its not. at least not what you think it is. they may scare you with some kind of extreme punishment if you don't follow order but they don't torture people to make them insane and create multiplepersonalities. lol. there is no need. there are much easier and healthier ways to control people.. and you actually believe they make batshit crazy insane people who they have to entrust important missions
if you only knew how retarded you really are.. you'd prolly kill yourself
Bentley Morales
except many of those are used in occasions where "being crazy" fits their narrative, in example the parkland school shooting or where its just too convenient that its just a mentally ill and not someone who is involved in some greater plans they use it for such jobs that dont need any special training and which they dont want to do themselves, in example sacrificial pawns.
Also there are leaks in the Black Vault and some previous lawsuits.
Benjamin Perez
Its the seasoning packets that come with the pizza, dont eat them
Gabriel Kelly
you have to understand that pressuring already borderline insane people to do shit is one thing.. and taking a normal person and making him insane is not what's going on
look. there are people who are borderline insane. people in the usa are heavily monitored. from school. there is a file on you if you raise a brow. if you're cooky or some shit. if you're such a person, you may be fucked with via certain types of reinforcements through agents who may befriend you and give you incetives to commit a mass murder for instance or something like that. but that's not mkultra.. that's just taking an already crazy person who will probably do some crazy shit anyway.. and turning his innate craziness for the benefit of the state. that's what agencies do.
they profile people and then use them according to profile. the might blackmail you or use your sentimental sides to use you in one way or the other.
there are many different people. and it's really not that hard funding the people they need for certain assignments. some of these people maybe used only once and then disposed off, some stay agents for a long time
most agents who go long-term may be given a tour of what happens to traitors. they'll be shown videos where traitors are burned alive, or tortured etc. but nowhere would they actually make those manchurian candidates who would be triggered by some word and suddently wake up in new persona on a mission. it's not reliable.
i know what i'm talking about. you should be thankful for me telling you the real stuff and not ask dumb ass questions. start using your head. in any case.. everything that you get online, all these allowed conspiracy theories are all psyops. just trust me on this one. it's too easy to block the real info. anything real wouldn't get out to the masses. it would at best stay hidden by search engines unless you type the specific unique text that can only be found in such a source.
you will be missled.
Oliver Thompson
>all conspiracy theories are a conspiracy to make legit conspiracy theories that dont exist look crazy. what exactly is you assertion that traumabased mindcontroll doesnt exist based upon, considering we have the government specifically admitting to doing this shit?
Sebastian Collins
also, occultism is all bullshit psyop to mislead people.
look.. internet was created for the sole reason to massively mislead people. obviously there are some people who know the truth but you will not hear the truth as anything but a marginal opinion.
you see.. its ironic. they do control all sides of the dialogue. they control your bad guys, your good guys, your papa and your mama.
people are being indoctrinated into the behavior they want you to display from childhood and there is literally zero ways to escape it
you can escape it.. if you're estually taught to escape it or somehow discover the scam and teach yourself but that only happens to so few out of billions of people
not few out of thousands.. but out of billions there are literally only a handfull of redpilled people who don't actually work for the government or the agencies or elites etc
so.. you think about it. i'm not your personal teacher.. if you look long enough and use your head, logic, deduction.. you'll get it
Kevin Bell
>occultism is all bullshit psyop except occultism is merely looking at whats hidden. claiming its all bullshit is just retarded. there are bullshit branches of it, but just looking into masonic symbolism and what that tells about their believes and goals is already occultism and can be usefull in that regard. yet you just come up claiming "all of occultism is bullshit". how about this, carbon dating is bullshit in many cases, thus all of science is a bullshit psy op. see how that works?
Landon Cook
He is a shill, ignore him.
William Wilson
>what exactly is you assertion that traumabased mindcontroll doesnt exist based upon i just told you.. there are more efficient ways to create agents. >the government specifically admitting to doing this shit? you can't trust the government under any circumstances. their only role is to control people. and you can't control people by telling them how things really are. the government wants you to think that they mind control some few dumb niggers or whoever. but they really control everyone. via education.. via things right in front of your eyes
as i said.. you parents were controled.. you grandparents.. and each generation raises the next into that same indoctrinated state. the government doesn't need all these dramatic methods to create agents.
to put it simply.. there are people who would genuinly serve the government at their own will. people want to do bad shit to other people. becayse that's how we the people are trained from childhood.. we really do start to hate each other
if the government tomorrow allowed killing people. people would do exactly that. not becayse mah mkultra but because people are agitated and dissatisfied from the childhood.
you think that the government has to go through some special trouble to create agents, killers etc.. but they really don't. they just pick anyone who fits the profile and that's it. nothing more then that. the system itself gives them the variety of choices to pick from
all this dramatic mindcontrol is just a plot for the movies which are fed to normies.. so to trigger the... "heeey maaan they do some crazy experiment on you, so you'd want to kill people and sheeeit".. it's just not true.
Carson Thompson
so you entire argument is "because i say so and its too crazy"
hey, i get some bumps out of it.
Ryan Sanders
>except occultism is merely looking at whats hidden. claiming its all bullshit is just retarded there is nothing hidden. occultism is not looking at what's hidden, it's given some things an extra important meaning etc etc.
all of it is done to mesmerise normies. with all that.. "magic" shit. it's just seriously infantile like santa claus. it's the exact same shit
do you take santa seriously? i hope not the same with occultism
>carbon dating is bullshit it is bullshit in some cases. but the world is not what you think it is. some parts of our world are very old.. especially the stones, the minerals, but almost all of the organic shit is very young. science is a psyop for the most part
all public info is basically is a psyop. people are not allowed to know the truth since it would make people uncontrollable. that's why they feed people constant lies all their lives.
every little aspect of your life that you have been tought is a lie and a part of a psyop. it's really very blackpilled and depressing. once you really know the truth.. you'd be so depressed and on the verge of suicide. i know what i'm talking about.
you really don't want to know the truth.. well.. actually you won't believe the truth but if you actually come a long way enough to believe the truth.. then you'll understand how fucked up things really are.. and looking back at all these conspiracy theories, you'll understand how solly all of these psyops are.. if you compare them to real truth.
Juan Wood
>entire argument is "because i say so and its too crazy" no. i explained my point. if you can't grasp it.. well.. sorry about that buddy. i guess there is no point in telling you anymore
>hey, i get some bumps out of it. lol.. well.. have a last bump faggot. dream the dream
Aiden Clark
I'd rather die a free man than a slave to my own desires.
Carter Cruz
You're clearly a lizard
Aaron Gomez
You glow in the dark. If you were to reduce all of your posts to a few memes, it would be Post 1: You'll be misled Post 2: It's not true Post 3: You don't want to know, everything's a psyop! Post 4: You can't grasp it; just dreaming
You are trying to meme people back into a haze of confusion, unfortunately for you a large bath of words doesn't necessarily mean your post rings of truth. How about this: you're a psyop, and a bad one at that. If this was your job, I'd say you're bad at it. If this was a hobby, I'd say quit because you're not good. If your "true understanding" brought you to this point, of what use was it? It would seem more like you were the one who was duped, actually.
yet all you bring to the discussion is your own view without backing any claim up with the excuse of "not being my teacher" most things being lied about does not mean you dont find occasional truth, the best way to hide a lie is inbetween truths and vice versa. you merely say to reject everything and not believe in anything basically which just falls into their trap of getting people into nihilism and hedonism.
There being other methods to accomplish goals doesnt refute that this method is used. What are you supposed to do if some guy is in a position you need to controll, but isnt corruptable the normal way, and suiciding gets to obvious? you MKUltra him. Also traumabased programming is just a more hardcore version of the carrot of the stick, promise great pleasures for being obediant and threaten hell for being disobediant. its basic discplination of a child. even this would be enough to be traumabased programming already, but you can take it all a step further eventually make some sign to show that now isnt a moment to talk back by every time this sign is used and the subject is disobediant to raise hell upon him while letting it pass when there is no sign. You then use some drugs too etc and suddenly you have a completly obedient slave until the time the psyche breaks eventually. the person is too old to be conditioned that way? cause dissociation by forcing him to do disgusting stuff like told in >youtube.com/watch?v=gVDIYFSygLg that causes dissociation/split personality and you can shape the new personality from scratch.
