If I ever make it, how to tell a girl I'm a kissless virgin without freaking her the fuck out?

If I ever make it, how to tell a girl I'm a kissless virgin without freaking her the fuck out?

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By saying it as non-chalantly as possible. Make it look like you don't give a fuck and it won't matter.

>i've never kissed a girl before
>wow really?
>yeah
>hah, i guess i'll be your first!

That's how it would go
Only the internet cares your a virgin

>If I ever make it
How about starting with dropping the anime pedo shit? How old is the girl depicted in that picture supposed to be? 12? And why does she have a terrified look on her face? Realize that 90% of women (or more) will want nothing to do with you or your limp virgin dick when they find out you are into this shit.

This is Madoka you fucking newfag nigger.

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You won't make it, so what does it matter?

I don't really think they care, I never mentioned it when I first kissed a girl just as I never told the girl I lost my virginity to that I was a virgin.

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The name of your pedo Jap means nothing to me, you little fucking faggot. You obviously won’t take my advice, so have fun being woman repellent for the rest of your life, virgin freak ;)

Samefag

Haha user, thanks for the laugh. you killed that kid with words. gz on 99 str

Don't tell her

Just say you don't have much experience but go into details

Just don't make a big deal out of it, faggot.

There's plenty of woman who find it hot to take another mans virginity. That's how it went with the first girl i was with anyways. Just don't make a big deal out of it and it won't matter?

>another mans

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Why would it bother her that you didn't have your penis in another woman's slime already? Is she a cuck queen or something?

Fucking retard

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Why is everyone saying it's not a big deal?
Normies seem disgusted at the notion that someone can be a virgin in his 20s and always assume there's something horrible wrong with him.

Why would you date a normie, though? They're boring, narrow and usually focus on sex, money, status or some combination.

I'd much rather date an actual log than a normie, probably
>T. tried the normie date, disliked the normie date

You know very well what I mean by normie. You know very well how able-bodied men who have had absolutely no romantic experience well into their 20s are considered.
A big reason why it's impossible for anyone at 20+ to make it anymore is just that, it's completely socially unacceptable to be a 'loner' and a 'virgin' past a certain age and noone will give you the time of day if they find out.

It's very different judging an abstract idea of a person and judging the real life person. Look at how many harsh opinions anons here air about women, do you really think if a cute girl with dyed hair or a body count of 5+ or whatever came up and flirted with them that they'd tell her to go off and be a harlot somewhere else?

If you're a normal guy who can (clearly) form meaningful interpersonal bonds, who's mostly/somewhat at ease with his body/sexuality, who's enthusiastic and looking to please her, the stereotypical image of the virgin who's unsure of how many holes a woman has and gets his clothes washed by his mother is far away.

Unless you're drunkenly hooking up in a club or something, by the time someone wants to get naked with you they've already seen a lot they liked. It's a lot harder to find a person without flaws who's also genuinely fun/compatible than it is to take a good person and respect them enough to be understanding and reasonable about their human imperfections. Of course there's assholes around and as hurtful as it is to ever be in a situation where you get laughed out while you are vulnerable, in reality if you think that scenario through this person is also showing themselves to have a nasty mean-spirited streak and do you honestly want to put up with that in an intimate relationship? You won't fuck up crazily in sex as long as you take it easy and accept her guidance as she knows her body best. Make sure she is already really wanting it by the time you go to put it in.

>all this shit just to pass the buck
Who the fuck cares, man? Who the fuck actually fucking cares about you people anymore? Who? In 2019, who but yourselves gives a single fuck about you guys anymore? Fuck off with this 'normie' bullshit. You guys are so high on Jow Forums bullshit that you've forgotten there's an entire world out there.

Forget it, man, it's clear we're on two entirely different metas here. If you want to put all your eggs in a basket you can't fill then fucking go for it. Base your identities in all the sex you're not having.

Girls are disgusted by virgins because you're all usually creepy, high-strung or obnoxious. If you don't like it, maybe you should have listened when people told you you were annoying.

Cry more. Fuck, you people bring my piss to a boil. I'd tell you to 'stay virginal' but I'm guessing regardless of my encouragement you'll have no problems doing so.

My severe defeatism and quitter nature caused by years of depression wants to try and refute you, or at least call you a normie faggot and post a smug anime girl, but fuck me, I can't. This sounds like it makes sense, or maybe my depression weakened enough that I can believe some realistic sounding bs.

Why do you think you have to tell her? If she never asks, don't bring it up.

>when people told you you were annoying
Noone ever did. We never learned not to be.
I know user, it's pretty pointless to even try to acquire social and romantic skills if you didn't get them at the right age and we are very annoying to you normals, but you don't have to be mean, we can't help it.

Do kissless virgin women even exist if they aren't extremely ugly? It seems so strange that it is so much more common in men when society says it should be the other way around.

I'm mad because you guys just constantly throw in the towel because "abloobloo girls" and people shrug off deaths and watching loved ones die daily.

You guys are fucking disgusting disgraces. Humans did not get this far, overcome disease and war, just so you guys could be antisocial people who generally dislike interaction but somehow insist that they need/want a girlfriend.

Come on.

Not sure what about my post set you off so much. For the record I'm a woman in my mid twenties and not a virgin. And I work a job and have a bachelor's degree, not everyone who posts here is some sort of neet.

And yeah people can have hang ups about virginity. The guy I ended up being with openly told me he was hesitant about taking mine. I guess for some people it implies a stronger emotional importance they could be uncomfortable with.

>society says
Society says a lot of things. For a while, society was saying climate change was a hoax. Hah!
Don't ever listen to society. It's been a shy few thousand generations since they've said anything of worth; this is especially true in white countries, where it's a constant battle of racism. Just fucking be, man, why do brown people gotta be worse or better. Just fucking be. Or better yet, if you're actually better than something, prove it.

Kissless virgin women are all over. It's just that they usually look like your average fedorable guy, only they're boobs and not moobs, and she's got a garden, not a hose. They all suffer the same entitlement, lack of hygiene and general obnoxious, clingy-yet-higher-than-thou attitude.
Like men, they're not all ugly, and they're not all shitty people, but the vast majority are some combination of the two and the outliers usually have specific stories that require specific approaches.
For everything else in life, there's blaming other people.

Think about it for a second user. All a man can do is try to be chosen. It's women that make the final choice.
We know we are disgusting disgraces. But most of us are too cowardly to off ourselves.
So what can we do?

I know one woman who is absolutely gorgeous and is still a virgin. I have never pressed her on the topic of why, but she seemed to become a bit disinterested in me after learning I wasn't, actually. She seems to be waiting for marriage, but she isn't at all religious.

Before you even addressed my point, the first paragraph tells me you are fucking insane, and I would be better off asking anybody else.
Really, do you scream at shadows or something? It's not that I disagree with you it just seems like I am talking to Terry Davis.

I am not looking for a particularly pretty woman, I think I am reasonably attractive so that was never the issue. It just seems that unlike what I had expected, most women took a much more "masculine" approach to love and sex than I did. I had always considered my self voluntary with not dating, as I didn't have any female friends who I wanted to date and at the time I didn't have a way to meet anyone outside my high school. But now that I have been going to college for a while it seems like suddenly I am seen in the same league as many men who have serious deformities, mental illness or legitimately hate women, while wanting a woman who was more reserved like me is a misogynistic unrealistic fantasy.
Where am I supposed to meet women that were fine with waiting, and expected an man to do the same?

Being a massive echo-chamber all of everyone's insecurities and woes are reverberated tenfold. A small voice becomes massive and if you browse here long enough you can hear it. And you start to become that voice and everyone's sadness that it encompasses.

Stop browsing the internet all day and you will see what I mean. No one outside of here is going to care about you being a virgin. Some might even indulge in that. Who knows.

I am not really insecure about anything, and women still pay no attention to me.

>another mans

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Find a nice mommy domme to take it.

+1

Or even say nothing at all. She likely wont notice, or won't care.

Guys care way more about each others virginity, than girls care about a guys virginity.

Incel.

Yeah, the unfortunate reality these days is that a lot of people straight up don't have the time for it.

I lost my virginity to a friend. I never dated, because I outright didn't have time. Even at the age of 27, both me and my friends would have been virgins if we hadn't done it with each other back then. Between loans, insane costs of living, and a shitty wage despite a solid degree, it's just so hard to find a lot of room for it, without sacrificing so much to do so, and it just doesn't feel worth it.

>normies won't accept loners trying to reintegrate
>'incel'
Case in point.

>didn't read the post
Your problem is being super incelpilled, not that you are a loner.

>single word reply to my post
>'you didn't read the post'
And what the fuck does 'incelpilled' even mean? Incel is the new buzzword for virgin/lonely guy in general.

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by getting out of the closet and telling her you were a lesbian all along

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You guys are fucking disgusting disgraces. Humans did not get this far, overcome disease and war, just so you guys could be antisocial people who generally dislike interaction but somehow insist that they need/want a girlfriend.
>Bro, just like, be normal, dude, in a world that pathologises human interaction

>Incel is the new buzzword for virgin/lonely guy in general.
Incel is someone so disgusting, both personality and appearance wise, that he cannot get laid, despite wanting to, hence "INvoluntary CELibate". These people grow stupidly angry at women for their own failings, and blame everything on society for "keeping them down", and "preventing from from reintegrating in society", instead of taking responsibility for their own life.

Just because you don't know what it means, doesn't mean it doesn't have a meaning. Or that you don't fall straight into that category.

The word lost it's literal meaning years ago, now it's literally a buzzword for all virgins/lonely looking men over the age of 18.
Do you know how many times I've heard 'that guy looks like an incel' aimed at people who simply aren't socialising enough?

I'm using it with its actual meaning, and so far it seems like I hit the mark.

>hahah you're an incel
>how do I know? well an incel would disagree with me haha

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>gets called incel
>b... buzzword
>gets told what it means
>I... it has lost its meaning
>*posts an image instead of using actual words*
It's easy to tell, because you get this defensive over it.

But you do you user. Hope you are happy with your life, and all that hate you have towards women.

>that user that thinks he's less pathetic than the incels because he spends time on Jow Forums clearly delineating the lines that determine who is an incel and who isn't

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At what age? What is the oldest I could reasonably expect to find women who chose not to have sex but want to at some point?

Don't know, don't think it really matters. Mid- to late 20s is a reasonable guess from my side.

But seriously, I don't think most would care. If you are a 30 year old virgin, so what? It's not like it matters for you guys. Sure, you lose some street cred with "the boys", but I guarantee you, unless you found yourself a slut, most girls wouldn't care at all.

Girls can potentially get into trouble because if they don't break they hymen, it can basically become so reinforced that it can't be penetrated normally. Had a coworker devasted after having her first time at the age of 27, where the guy just couldn't penetrate due to the intense pain she got when he tried, and how tough it was to actually break through at that point. That's apparently a thing.

By god, is it really you?!
The arbitrator! After all my years of searching, I have finally found you! You are the only one who can strip me of the wretched title of 'incel', and I will sacrifice anything for your favor. Please, name your price.

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>but I guarantee you, unless you found yourself a slut, most girls wouldn't care at all.

oh nononono

The girl is fucking retarded for not using a dildo beforehand

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>says the guy

I was scared of using tampons until I had my first time. Jamming up a dildo is not exactly an appealing idea to the average virgin.

But yeah, she probably should have.

I'm being realistic, most women will treat you like a freak if you're a virgin after 22.

Reminder that women on average lose their virginity at much lower ages than men do, and assume that all men lose theirs at the same age (and anyone who doesn't *must* be a maladjusted freak of nature)

>I was scared of using tampons
TITS OR GTFO
Fucking larpers, I swear

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This is all guys assuming this sort of stuff, and has no real statistical evidence behind it.

And everybody loses their virginity much later these days. It has been all over the news that people are much slower to start being sexually active, and there has been a lot of concerns over it. And this applies to both genders.

Don't listen to feminazi thots, they are no a representation of how the cast majority of girls think.

>requesting tits on a blueboard
>posting pictures of under8 anime girls
Jesus christ.

I am
was specifically looking for a woman who I thought shared my values. I am not religious and I don't have a fetish so I guess I really don't mind that much but it seems really strange that I chose, with nobody making me, to follow traditional expectations of women, when next to no women did. And it seems like the only men in the same situation as me are absolute reprobates.

>This is all guys assuming this sort of stuff, and has no real statistical evidence behind it.

Yeah bro, all those surveys that show that women on average have sex earlier than men are wrong lmao

>And everybody loses their virginity much later these days.

Not really

Don't mention it if you fear she'll overanalyze it. If you feel it was bad for your first time, don't worry, it is for most people. Just say something like "sorry, I don't do that much", but not in a self demeaning way, be casual about it and she will too.

>surveys
Dating sites don't show a proper picture of the entire population. The result is inherently biased, and not worth anything.

>not really
5 seconds on Google. The good articles are in paid newspapers, and I realized you'll probably close your eyes and refuse to accept reality anyway, so no point putting in more effort:
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>Dating sites don't show a proper picture of the entire population

OH NONONONO-

Anything else is cope

>college
I didn't pay any attention to guys during college. I was way too busy for that. I think I started looking when I was like 25, and that was very casually.

I lost my virginity to a childhood friend in high school, that's literally it. If you don't have friends to mess around with, this type of situation is surprisingly common.

Don't mind your college days. The girls there have different priorities, and the girls you want, aren't paying attention. Either you have to force them to pay attention, or you'll just have to wait. Or try to build confidence to fuck some wannabe popular chick.

>I think I started looking when I was like 25, and that was very casually.

t. got spitroasted at 16

"Casually" as in "I was looking at the people I knew, or had friends that knew". I've had 2 partners my entire life, one when I was in high school, one in a LTR that ended half a year ago.

Very few girls fuck around as much as you guys think they do.

Okay, you lost your virginity in highschool, like most american women. And to a childhood friend at that. I don't really get why you are taking your position in the conversation any more. It isn't really a BAD thing, but at this point I might as well be asking any woman who had semi frequent sex through college. Though I am confused to the point of not paying attention to men in college when you did care about that sort of thing in high school.

>Though I am confused to the point of not paying attention to men in college when you did care about that sort of thing in high school.
Because I only managed to do it through a lucky coincidence of having someone I liked already, and wanted to experience it with. I wasn't looking, because I didn't have time for it. Like most people didn't.

You can dismiss my advice if you want, but I'm not sure why you would, unless you are just looking for an excuse to be negative.

You need to go back
Virgin shamers are literally the weakest race.

They're just insecure that their only accomplishment in life is having sex

Dont bring it up at all and answer honestly if ahe asks, but dont pry on it. Be nonchalant

It's not really advice at this point. Especially since you were referring to having sex at an average age as a lucky coincidence. I am specifically looking for women who chose to remain a virgin up until her college years, out of personal taste, just like me. A woman who lost her virginity in high school and then didn't pursue sex does nothing for me.

People have a right to be weirded out about not having had a partner for so long. For some people that's a very foreign experience from their own. I just say I had issues with being anxious about serious relationships and never went past making out a bit when I was younger out of fear, in reality was a mental case who suffered psychotic breaks from reality combined with depression, substance abuse, suicide, etc. Trash fire, but, if a woman cares for you, it won't matter if she discovers you have issues. In fact it might help her relate with you.

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when i started dating my boyfriend, he was a kissless virgin. he didnt even tell me, i just knew from the first time we kissed. maybe dont mention it, but she might be able to tell. either way, i found it super fucking adorable and it made me happy that i got to be his first kiss. so maybe its not an entirely bad thing?

That sounds so much worse than being with someone who just puts up with it honestly. Very few men want to be "adorable", especially for something that isn't mutual.

Here's the million dollar question

why fuckin tell her that in the first place? What good could possible come out of it?


not him but
>frogposting
1000% incel

Here's another anecdote, I actually told my first gf that I was a kissless virgin and maybe she found it adorable who knows, but she dumped me like 2 months later for another guy and more importantly we were 16/17 year old kids.

There's nothing adorable about a like 26 year old man who is a kissless virgin. It's not something to be proud of or something that should be casually brought up with girls

Why do you want to tell her that?
Does it even matter?
Oh look at me i'm the virgin king i have a cock hymen
Shehhheeee fuck off

by saying it after two or three times getting laid, she will like you enough if you get to fucking her without drugs on the first time and probably have guessed it alltogether by then

Honestly, you just don't.

I should say, I don't have a lot of free time, but surely you had SOME time to spend on social engagements, right?