Cravings

>22m in a 4 year long and relatively stable relationship with my first girlfriend (8/10) and partner
>Still enjoying the relationship and sex is still good / fun

Since a couple of months my head has been going crazy about random other girls. Almost every relatively attractive girl I see turns into me imagining fucking her with a ravenous lust. It's starting to get to the point where I consider hitting up random girls just to see what happens. When I get out of public areas the thought resides and I feel like a horrible person because there is nothing wrong with my girlfriend. These thoughts are new. Is this normal and how do I get rid of it????

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>4 years
>not married
Then there's no point in preserving this relationship, is there? Go let your animal urges run wild, fuck everything you see, and die a lonely man.

The grass is greener on the other side syndrome

This.

You're letting your hormones speak louder than your reason.

Just cheat on her, if you don’t get caught it’s okay. After 4 years I’m sure she’s stepped out a few times herself anyway, especially if she’s 8/10 and your first girlfriend, you simply don’t have the experience to truly lock down a girl of that caliber on your first try.

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I never ever plan on getting married. Not something people do anymore where I live

>cheater
Well, once and always.

So just cheat and go on with daily life? Is that a legit way of living / having a relationship for people?

I never cheated on her

Dont cheat, be the better man, focus that energy on making her fall in love more and more. As soon as you nut with another woman you will instantly regret it.

Yeah pretty much, it’s not as bad as you think. However if you EVER find out she cheated on you dump her immediately, a girl and a guy cheating are completely different.

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Don’t listen to this cuck, women aren’t capable of true love like men are. The fact that you’re even thinking about other women shows that she is lacking in something or holding something back from you.

So cheat it’s not a big deal, not like you’re married anyway who cares. But like I said if she cheats dump her ASAP.

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>cheat but dont tolerate getting cheated
You can fuck all the woman you want if you are single but why throw a 4 year relationship to the groud just because >muh peniz inside other gurl vagana. There are things in life more important than cumming inside of someone you have no feelings for.
>Ib4morecuckinsults

This might indeed just be true. But there lies my issue. I don't want to be a cheater, but I also wanna get rid of these thoughts. Are there ways to suppress the strange urge to 'find out how another girl would be like'

Well you could just hire an escort. That way it’s strictly business and not cheating at all. Married men do it all the time.

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I was indeed considering prostitution but why wouldn't that be cheating. I can understand it's less worse than emotional cheating

Sure, why not. If you're smart about it you'll literally never get caught.

>inb4 some retard says why be in a relationship if you're gonna cheat
Because you get the best of both worlds. Convenient relationship sex / companionship and freedom to have other sex.

It’s not cheating because it’s just a service being provided to you, you don’t maintain contact and you just get the urges out of your system discreetly. Would you consider it cheating when another women cooks you a meal when you order at a restaurant?

You're a cuck. You can still love a girl and cheat on her at the same time. As long as she doesn't find out it makes no difference. In fact, cheating has helped my relationships. I used to take out my repressed sexuality by being hostile to my gfs, but ever since I started cheating on them that doesn't happen.

Why would I want "I'm gonna cheat on my girlfriend" to put their opinion in the pot?
Lol. Once and always.

Yeah my gf has ugly feet, so I cheat on her with a girl with cute feet to get foot jobs.

You do this through prostitution or actually putting in effort?

Mostly just through female friends

Same. Fellow female friend fucker here.

Instead of cheating to get your sexuality fix, why don't you just start fucking your gf in more taboo ways? Not meaning cuckolding and that but like roleplaying or even BDSM type stuff?

Still not the same as fucking a new girl for the first time. Look up the coolidge effect. Men aren't supposed to be monogamous

Yeah that coolidge shit is real, experiencing it right now with my current gf. She’s still just as beautiful as we first met but my dick don’t get hard for her anymore. I’ve started seeing a side chick and I get full brown erections just from hugging her.

Did they specify if it was male specific though? I think it might be because my gf only seems to get more and more attracted over time, while I’m looking for new thots to bang on the side.

However way you look at it, its still cheating. Whether she finds out or not its cheating. If its am escort or a friend its cheating.
By all means go ahead if you want, this is just a test of morals. If you have no morals then simply fall to your primal desires and be like that other douche says.

its litterally in our DNA, but coming from a guy who know a lot of cheaters, dont go for it, you could ruin your life.

I had this, and I ended up leaving my girlfriend because I thought I could get with any girl I wanted.

I think, to this day, I looked a gift horse in the mouth. I don't know if I should've left her or not, but the term 'relatively stable' reminds me of

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and also reminds me of how often we would be sat miserable together, and how rarely she would actually engage in sex and try to make it more fun/evolve. We would bicker and argue maybe more than we got along.
Just try to carefully consider what you mean by 'relatively stable' I would say, don't just go with your instincts, but instead work out if she has changed in a way which you can't keep up with, or vice versa.

She isn't really into that

How do you guys manage this? How do your female friends think of you cheating with her, and how do you manage to keep them quiet to your GF. It seems like a slippery slope to me

Do you have any regrets or would you have made a different choice if you were given the opportunity? Thanks for the advice btw and awesome band ^^ taking this into good consideration

Given the opportunity, I would like to try again, yes. I have to confess that, despite denying it for half a year now.

But I have a premonition that we wouldn't have lasted anyway. We seriously did have a lot of fights, arguments, disagreements. She had this trend where she just wouldn't bring up any criticisms she had of me, and she claimed that it was because if she ever did criticise me, I would just argue her down and debate her on it until she felt bad for bringing it up. But then this would just become a regular excuse, and she could use this as a tool to make me feel bad for things to the point where I couldn't tell if I was right or wrong. So if I was upset with her for something, I would try to express it, and then it would become a long drawn out affair where ultimately she was 'always in the wrong' and I 'couldnt let her win anything'. If she was upset about something I did, I would not drop it until I understood precisely what was wrong, and this would draw out for even hours, where I could handle the discussion and she would get weary. Her natural way of dealing with things was to not bring it up and bottle it, very different from me.

So ultimately, we couldn't communicate properly. Also I didn't act like a man. I would cry about things to her, I would act melodramatically, one day I was so stressed with life that I had a mental breakdown, walked out of her family's house and stood in the rain, talking to myself, miles away from the house, while her family got into their cars and searched for me. I was rotten in that respect. I knew after that the relationship was broken and I had made a mistake that was beyond repair. So it's been half a year now and I still think of her every day, and how she met a new guy a month after our three year relationship, and how worthless that makes me feel, and howon Earth I am going to build myself back up again.

(If youre into your personality types, im ENTP through and through.)

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I'll continue this because I need to.

We met at university and fell in love very quickly. She is beautiful, and in her body has all of my preferences and fetishes (she even had a fucking anime-style single canine sticking out from her lips if you can believe it). She is the most beautiful woman I have ever seen in my life.

And I put in effort. We both studied at an arts uni, so i helped her with work, we collaborated, I took her to meals, walks, dates, I learned a lot about sex and learned how to bond with her through it, and tried the things she wanted to try. Ordered her flowers to her work on Valentine's day. I always bought/made the most thoughtful presents symbolic of our relationship. She did things for me too, but I never felt like the effort was equal deep down. She grew distant and jealous of me when I went to China and America in the summer while she was unemployed and looking for work (i had secured a job on graduation). This was a seed of doubt in the relationship, and looking back, I realise that we were not exactly in love - we were in competition. We both aimed basically to one-up each other, so jealousy and envy was rife. She once said to my sister

>Yeah I was a serial Tinder dater

Right in front of me, and in my mind I was just screaming WHORE, and she could see it in my eyes. She could only communicate it half a day later in the form of

>well, I think people should respect that we all have our pasts...

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So she knew that I reacted badly to her Tinder comment, but she couldnt face communicating her thoughts clearly (as I said last post), and by this stage the relationship was dying, so I didnt say to her face 'you sounded like a massive slut' because I knew the fucking drama imminent.
I couldn't contain my envy/disgust in her 'serial Tinder' lifestyle, and that is perhaps my problem. But you know, I am weak to the Jow Forums rhetoric of 'tfw no perfect immaculate virgin at 24 y.o', and I am a hypocrite, because I want to be a dirty kinky sex driven motherfucker yet I wince at the idea of a girl having a sexual past. I am broken in that sense.

I am ENTP. I am a contrarian. I analyse things and break them down, and look at everything from both sides, and I argue a lot, and I cannot let a debate go. This wall of text makes that clear - it is nigh autistic to narrate a relationship like this. I can have a whole relationship hang in the balance over little things that speak volumes in my mind.

With my ex, I have to accept either one of each of these:

>I was not a manly man as I should've been in time. I lost her because I grew mentally weak, stressed from responsibility, and lashed out on the person I was closest to, and I shouldnt be surprised its over. I just have to grow and become better

>I am who I am. I can get better at work, social life, whatever - but there will always be a core to me that is flawed, and there will be another person who can anticipate that better than my ex, and can actually help with its containment, not lean on it and pressure it

I broke up with her, I should say. I could see the relationship dying.

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So now I've droned on about myself... Don't cheat. You'll regret it. If you really feel you have to, pay for a prostitute. You can deal with that in a mental and logical approach if you feel bad about it. But at the end of the day, your limbic (primal) brain is having a fight with your cortex (human being) brain, and the result is going to hurt either way, you will never know what the right choice was, and this is what we call life.

Now with any luck this thread will just sink and I can be content knowing I got all this shit out. Thanks

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This is why I have trust issues. Fuck you all. Go ahead OP, cheat on her and then when she inevitably finds out and hopefully dumps your ass you'll see how foolish you were

I was in a similar position that you're now. I started my relationship with my actual boyfriend with little to none experience, he is a 8/10 and the best friend i had in my life but in the first yeat of relationship i feeled like i was missing something. I talked with him and we both agree into follow an open relationship. After been with 10+ people I have to tell you something: you don't know have bad at sex are a random person. I only get involved with 2 guys that i can say I HAD GOOD SEX. Feeling something physical to someone is not the same as being in love, try something with another person (with protection) and you will see. Also, try to talk with her about being open.
Sorry for my english

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Hey man, thanks for the detailed elaboration. Very insightful, I recognize myself in it quite a bit. Any chance I could chat you up through discord orsm? Mine is Autotje#6718. If not, nps, you helped me a shit ton ^^

Don't cheat. Cheating will lead to nothing. Do you find your GF attractive? If so maybe start with new things in the bedroom that will liven up your sexual needs.

My boyfriend of 5 years is pulling this shit on me right now. Says he loves me to death and is still attracted to me (we still fuck everyday), but is curious about other women. The moment I tell him ok go for it I will go on and explore too (i don't want that at all, just told him to see his reaction), he becomes angry and says women shouldn't be doing things like that.

I'm so desperate for him not to leave the relationship or break what's left of me and my shite life. I don't know what to do. We found each other at very desperate times in our lives and he made me the happiest and he was too... He was very poor growing up (going on vacation, restaurant, going out.. and stuff like that were things he never did before) and I'm the one who helped him get a degree and a job, having a good hygiene, caring for himself and his stuff, caring for his family...

Now he has very normie friends, that encourage him to leave me and fuck around. And I can't do shit about it. I'm not his mother and can't tell him not to go.

Please don't cheat if she's always been there for you, supported you, cared for you. I never cheated on him and never would.

Sorry for my bad english and grammar

I have been in a relatioship with my GF for about 7 years now. Happens from time to time to me, usually when we are growing apart a bit. Think about what problems you may be having that are subcontiously pulling you away and adress them with your GF.

Just ignore every post in this thread, dump her/get caught, then come back crying about the one that got away and beg for advice on how to get her back, just like the last dozen knuckle-draggers that asked this question.

That is not true. I am sorry your mother didn’t love you enough.

I don't think I could actually cheat on her. I just want these goddamn thoughts to go away and I'm clueless at how to do so :(

Have you tried talking about it with her? Or maybe first, Is it something you could talk to her about?
I found out about my bf because he does some shady shit online and doesn't cover his tracks. I'm not even the type who's jealous and checks everything like his social media or phone. He's just messy. I would've preferred if he talked to me about these things instead, as I'm always open for communication in all aspects. But yeah maybe there's shame involved, I don't know. Try some new stuff with her maybe?

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The same situation happened to our relationship. I was with my first boyfriend who used to love me so much and told me I was one of the prettiest girls of he has seen so far. Also, that we both had the best connection, whether this is romantically, friendship-wise and sexually. However, after some time he honestly said to me he is curious about other girls. He was only interested in fucking them, rather than get to know them on an emotional level (lol, good luck). In the beginning, I thought this was afwul and I got so heartbroken, but later on I appreciated his honesty. I never had cravings for other guys, as our sex was kinky and exciting. Yea, there were some times that our sex was just meh, because we overkilled our sex-life. This was the period he started look porn and thoughts about variety. These events lead to negativity in our relationship and lost of trust, even though he was always honest with me. This ruined our relationship, since we argued more and more about smaller things and in the end, there was more pain than happiness.

So we splitted. Only time will tell if this was worth throwing away our good sex we used to have. However, I am almost sure about him going to text me back in the future, craving for what we have had. Maybe it will be too late for him this time (as we got broken up for other reasons before, e.g.: depression of him, long-distance for couple months).

Maybe a tip for you: As we had the same problem, we came up with the idea of having a threesome with another girl so and then. Only then you can tell if you really like fucking another pussy or maybe it was just all irrational. Although we never had an actually had one (because of all the negativity around), I cannot help you with this answer. It is worth to try discussing this with your girlfriend.

My final tip is to be always honest with your girlfriend. Just tell her that you are wanting to fuck other girls, and that it is normal for many men to feel like this.

Why the fuck did you lie to him if you didn't want that.
Jesus.
You should have been honest with him.
Now you'll reap what you sow

All men want to fuck other girls. Just because we do though doesn't mean we care about them.
I love my gf of 9 years so much but I could fuck any hottie and love it but I spend my time with my gf.
Most women just cannot STAND another woman taking time from their man. Theyre time parasites but the moment you allow too much time shared, the excitement will dwindle.
Cheating can help only to contrast the differences between your gf and the other girl(s). It's not ideal but that sex drive is a fucking pain in the ass especially if the gf doesn't want to fuck as much. Your desires will eat you alive. It's hell.

Would you let her fuck other men? like she enjoys sex with other men but loves you?

I would if it was discussed.
A lot of guys aren't down for that though and I can see why. Girls can get sex way easier so it can feel like that is a super mistake to allow her to do so.
There's no right answer and people choose their own morals though.
I honestly would advise guys to not commit to one girl from the beginning

You live in a shithole of degeneracy. Move. Take the girl with you. Marry her.

Your actions define you not your thoughts.

I've been married for 5 years now. My wife is pretty hot by anyone's standards. I do find other women attractive and think about banging them all the time.. even women far less attractive than my wife.
I'd never actually do it though, no interest. What I do is just remember how shitty dating was and how shitty every single fucking woman can be. My wife is really the only person I actually get along with. I just remember that and then realize it's not worth my time, because I'd probably have a genuine disdain for that person after 10 minutes of getting to know them.
I feel no need to ever cheat on my wife, even if I see random good looking women walking around.

Based

Psychologically, you should be encouraged (internally) to cheat and leave. It's driven by the prospect of having children with multiple partners. Pull a fast one on your comfortable, internal self - propose to her. Quit talking with all other women. Have a baby and teach your internal desires the true nightmare of reproduction. It's all fun and games until you do the deed fr.

Thinking about fucking other women is cheating you weasel cunt.

Do all men have these thoughts while being in a relationship?

Guy here.

I think all men (with exceptions like asexual people etc) see women as attractive objectively. After all, how could he fall in love with you personally if he didnt look at girls in that way? But different guys see it as 'cheating' or not differently. The natural instincts have to be there, but the way they deal with it is different.