Your choice America

Jonathan Perez
Jonathan Perez

Your choice America...

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Aiden Cruz
Aiden Cruz

That's the idea.

Nathan Morales
Nathan Morales

Lmao what was QE then?

Noah Williams
Noah Williams

controlled demolition

Jace Allen
Jace Allen

explain

Ryder Hughes
Ryder Hughes

FPBP

Anthony White
Anthony White

Ah the 9/11 of the finance industry

Nathaniel Wood
Nathaniel Wood

This needs to be talked about. How can people honestly think UBI as well as raising taxes on everything will work out?

Watch some horrible foreign connected politician is finally going to get this into the American system and then we will need ANOTHER solution to fix this problem. Ignoring the pyramid scheme.

Alexander Wright
Alexander Wright

The federal reserve system would only allow hyper inflation to occur in the US/EU if white people started benefiting from their country again.

Owen Gonzalez
Owen Gonzalez

We want inflation to help erase the debt the American people are trapped into by the (((BANKS)))

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Jack Peterson
Jack Peterson

UBI basically would have to replace all other forms of welfare in order to have any benefit. Welfare currently basically takes $3 to make $1 in gibs.

Lincoln Green
Lincoln Green

that's the point of UBI, that it does replace all other welfare and massively reduces the bureaucracy surrounding it.

Zachary Rivera
Zachary Rivera

but that is why it will never get implemented because every minority group is getting way more than $1000 a month in benefits.

Jason Cook
Jason Cook

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I know people that scam the government for all they can and they don't get so much.

Kayden Hill
Kayden Hill

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Landon Rodriguez
Landon Rodriguez

Yes right though youtu.be/NAtyv8NpbFQ

Libertarians have just been lying to everyone. Yang talks about the actual stats people Ben Shapiro and the Heritage Foundation have been sweeping under the rug. They don't give a fuck about the working class

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Grayson Morris
Grayson Morris

This is good for bitcoin

Brayden Williams
Brayden Williams

14" horse dildo

Jonathan Garcia
Jonathan Garcia

All the money comes from taxes to the tech sector, it's not printing money.

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Joshua Morales
Joshua Morales

legitimately caring about the economy in current year + 4
Y I K E S

Ryan Cooper
Ryan Cooper

Section 8 housing literally gives blacks access to homes in middle class suburbs with rents that average 1500 to 3000 a month.

I have seen SNAP benefits for $600+ dollars and of course if they are getting that much they are getting free healthcare too with rent assistance

Blake Sullivan
Blake Sullivan

Yang's right about college being total shit youtu.be/-DMCsXq_mYw

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Samuel Lee
Samuel Lee

You would have to give up your other benefits. My concern is it isn't enough, but you can probably team up with other people on UBI to share rent. Maybe people can just move to cheaper places to live so the income will be of more benefit.

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Gabriel Miller
Gabriel Miller

Hyperinflation is caused by an uncontrolled monetary emission, which in turn is mostly caused by the fiscal deficit. Right now you have both in America, it is not an if but a when.

Sebastian Bell
Sebastian Bell

is the proposed VAT tax specifically targeting tech companies?

Austin Robinson
Austin Robinson

The meme that destroyed yang

Jayden Harris
Jayden Harris

We started a war in Iraq which will cost us a trillion in the end and the government is essentially printing money to cover it. We have been screwed over through war. I get pissed over the complaints on helping the working poor.

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Logan Butler
Logan Butler

We pledge allegiance to the bag, of the People's Utopia of North America.
And to Yang, for he who stands,
One nation, under the bag, indivisible,
With money and MIGA cucking for all.

Yangsters rise up.

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Kayden Russell
Kayden Russell

no new money will enter the market you moron, how would that cause inflation let alone hyperinflation? migashills really are just grasping at straws at this point

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Brody Myers
Brody Myers

Yes

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Xavier Martinez
Xavier Martinez

fuck you boomer

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Levi Ward
Levi Ward

war in Iraq which will cost us a trillion in the end

This is one of the things that amaze me about America. You went to war having a 100% certainty that there where WMD. You couldn't find one. The war costed trillions. Nobody in congress started interrogating the once who came up with the intelligence that there were WMD in Iraq. You went to war with fake intelligence and nobody was punished nor grilled for it. In a private company you'd at least get fired and possibly sued.

Charles Richardson
Charles Richardson

Nigga plz , you are talking to a fellow argentinean we know this stuff.

The wars basically rise your debt from 50% to 90% of your gdp over a period of a decade.

Here you are talking of rising from 100% to 1800% of debt to gdp in 5 years

It would be your destruction , but then again this is good for bitcoin so do as you want.

Henry Ward
Henry Ward

The part of me that says "let's save America by opposing this commie bullshit" is against UBI obviously, but the part of me that says "it's too far gone, let's burn this fucker down asap so we can start over" is very much in support of the idea.

My biggest doubt comes because it's something which is in danger of actually benefitting, rather than just blatantly robbing, the honest productive people. Just seems out of character.

Good for crypto so there's that.

Daniel Murphy
Daniel Murphy

It’s another episode of “conservatives don’t know what inflation is”

Isaiah Robinson
Isaiah Robinson

Yang says companies like Amazon will pay the tax, but they will get some of the money back when people buy more stuff.

I hate Amazon youtu.be/s4o65yNaRIE

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Charles Hernandez
Charles Hernandez

Only (((creditors and investors)) will suffer from hyperinflation. The vast majority of Americans are debtors who will benefit from hyperinflation, all of our debts will be wiped away, paid off with pocket change.

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Caleb King
Caleb King

Very easy like, no stamps, no medicare free gibs, and every otehr free shit you currently have, it's just not being said right now, it will remove all of the gibs just for mere 1000$ a month

Justin Cox
Justin Cox

You have no idea what is to live with inflation. Investors are able to buy hard assets which are not affected by it. The common goy will suffer the most, while inflation wrecks the economy and his salary doesn't keep up with it.

Parker Kelly
Parker Kelly

good thread to drop some red pills in

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Michael Stewart
Michael Stewart

the donald has been here for far too long

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Josiah Foster
Josiah Foster

Is talking about taxing the rich tech company who will replace everyone with automation and AI. People are going to be screwed. Everyone has been lied to about people in industries where they lost their jobs. For the most part their lives are just over when they happens. Some 45 year old truck driver isn't going to go back to school, learn to code and compete with anyone. They are just fucked.

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Jaxson Johnson
Jaxson Johnson

I have tens of thousand of dollars in student debt that I can never pay off, as do millions of other Americans. When indebtedness reaches a certain level, hyperinflation becomes a method of wealth redistribution from elites to the poor.

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Samuel Gomez
Samuel Gomez

$1000 UBI every month
oh hey what a coincidence my rest just increased by exactly $1000
and nothing changed, except now I have to pay taxes on $12000 in extra income every year

Ayden Bailey
Ayden Bailey

UBI isn't a new concept whatsoever, fucking founding father Thomas Paine was already for it. And don't believe the neocon boomer lie that this shit is socialist
libertarianism.org/columns/libertarian-case-basic-income
Milton Friedman and Frederich Kayek, the key figures in modern lassiez faire economics and classical liberalism, and referenced by almost all modern economists and politicians who follow their schools of thought, supported UBI.

Both Milton Friedman and Friedrich Hayek advocated for something like a Basic Income Guarantee as a proper function of government, though on somewhat different grounds. Friedman’s argument comes in chapter 9 of his Capitalism and Freedom, and is based on the idea that private attempts at relieving poverty involve what he called “neighborhood effects” or positive externalities. Such externalities, Friedman argues, mean that private charity will be undersupplied by voluntary action.

[W]e might all of us be willing to contribute to the relief of poverty, provided everyone else did. We might not be willing to contribute the same amount without such assurance.

And so, Friedman concludes, some “governmental action to alleviate poverty” is justified. Specifically, government is justified in setting “a floor under the standard of life of every person in the community,” a floor that takes the form of his famous “Negative Income Tax” proposal.

Friedrich Hayek’s argument, appearing 17 years later in volume 3 of his Law, Legislation, and Liberty, is even more powerful. Here’s the crucial passage:

The assurance of a certain minimum income for everyone, or a sort of floor below which nobody need fall even when he is unable to provide for himself

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Thomas Morales
Thomas Morales

Kek!

Benjamin Moore
Benjamin Moore

Giving everyone money they haven't earned totally isn't socialism!
KYS, Yangfag.

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Joseph Reyes
Joseph Reyes

Wrong, neetbux are pillaged from amazon. They don't increase the money supply, so no inflation

Jace Ortiz
Jace Ortiz

The bank bailout didnt create superinflation

Luis Hall
Luis Hall

This. We need that money for wallstreet and Israel anyway

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Ryan Moore
Ryan Moore

Andrew Yang understands it's the college administrative staff that is getting all that money while you get stuck with the debt. Here's talking student loan forgiveness, but also no federal money for universities with bloated admin staff youtu.be/-DMCsXq_mYw

It will be heard for the corprocrats to fight against him, but they certainly will try.

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Wyatt Lopez
Wyatt Lopez

Yang says in the Joe Rogan podcast that you'll get to pick.

Angel Wood
Angel Wood

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Asher Bennett
Asher Bennett

leave math to neo-liberals
hyperinflation with gdp of 18T per month

Adam Fisher
Adam Fisher

Listen to the whole interview youtu.be/cTsEzmFamZ8

My biggest concern about Yang, is he will give the LGBTQP movement more power, and they shouldn't have it.

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Lucas Turner
Lucas Turner

Hyperinflation is always the inevitable destiny for fiat currencies. Might as well accelerate it and get $1,000 per month out of it.

Christopher Perry
Christopher Perry

It's coming from a tax on tech, so he is not printing money to pay for it though. Just like if you live in Alaska you get money every year from the oil companies. Alaska has a universal basic income.

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Camden Foster
Camden Foster

You have the best meme buy far.

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Aiden Hughes
Aiden Hughes

I know us enough economics to be intrigued but have many questions.

Kayden Sanchez
Kayden Sanchez

ppl get yangbuck
ppl could afford more stuff/services
prices go up cuz business make less profits
ppl who saved money for the entire life got fucked so hard and committed suicide

I hope this helps.

Jaxon Sanders
Jaxon Sanders

IF YOU TALK ABOUT UBI WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT GOING TO A DEFLATIONARY SYSTEM YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT.

IF YOU STILL TALK ABOUT GOING TO DEFLATIONARY SYSTEM BUT TALK MORE ABOUT UBI YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT. THATS THE EQUIVALENT OF SAYING USA ELECTION SUCKS BECAUSE OF ELECTORALS YSTEM AND NOT BECAUSE OF FIRST PAST THE POST (USED TO DECIDE STATE WINNER AND PARTIALLY USED TO DECIDE ELECTORAL COLLEGE WINNER).

Landon Hill
Landon Hill

So the cost of doing business rises, and buying power rises.

Increased business costs will shift supply curve to the left. Increased buying power will shift demand curve to the right.

By my brainlet, Macroecon 101 knowledge, wouldn't this cause prices to increase from both ends? Depending on the relative changes quantity supplied might change either way or stay relatively the same.

I suppose I'd need real numbers to see what this looks like. A slight increase in prices might still make this a net gain, especially if it ends up being cheaper than modern welfare after everything is considered, but this is definitely a sounds too good to be true scenario.

Unless we're all in for it on the accelerationist meme, which has some merit I suppose.

Jacob Martinez
Jacob Martinez

We have people committing suicide because they can't find work. That's the problem youtu.be/cTsEzmFamZ8

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Jason Rogers
Jason Rogers

fed
america
hyperinflation
i wonder who hide behind that memeflag

Robert Brooks
Robert Brooks

But he didn't say he's going to pay for it by printing new money did he?

Elijah Rivera
Elijah Rivera

We've already moved on from this. Try to keep up, faggarino.

Jose Russell
Jose Russell

When indebtedness reaches a certain level, hyperinflation becomes a method of wealth redistribution from elites to the poor.

Nope.
It will be a short term fix that will cause a much worse term problem.

Nicholas Ramirez
Nicholas Ramirez

continued indebtedness + $0
continued indebtedness + $1000
hard to choose I know

Matthew Barnes
Matthew Barnes

people buy more stuff
businesses make less profits
behold, the peak intelligence of a brown subhuman

Gavin Price
Gavin Price

We just did this with Obama. We can make it worse or.. well it's only ever going to be worse.

Jose Sanchez
Jose Sanchez

Kek. Well put.
And you too.
Is there a conspiracy to 2008 or do people not know yet?

Grayson Gomez
Grayson Gomez

We are talking about different things.

You are talking about UBI, which depending how it is implemented, might or might not cause hyperinflation.

I'm talking with the other user how inflation is also bad for the average wageslave.

Eli Green
Eli Green

UBI does not change the money supply, there will be no inflation

Juan Sullivan
Juan Sullivan

10% VAT on all goods and services
inflation
multi-trillion dollar new social program plans to benefit illegals and single moms
WHAT A GREAT PLAN, WHAT COULD POSSIBLY FAIL???

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Robert Russell
Robert Russell

your social security

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Ryder Mitchell
Ryder Mitchell

everyone now has more money
thinks businesses won’t raise prices
forgets that everything from your rent to you food is now 10% more expensive and your $1000 is worth about $150 after implementation
There’s a lot of retardation in the Yangfags minds, but hey, they have Richard Spencer on their side, so that should get certain victory!

Connor Cruz
Connor Cruz

Tl;dr, the yangplan is that the government will fork out 1.8 trillion dollars in UBI. It will get back 1 trillion in the form of sales taxes, decreased costs from reduced use of public services (prisons, emergency rooms, ect), and "increased economic activity." The other .8 trillion will come from a VAT tax on artificial intelligence.

This guy is actually dumber than AOC.

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Thomas James
Thomas James

everyone now has more money
Except I just said it did not change the money supply, that money came from somewhere. So clearly "everyone" does not have more money.

Furthermore the reason UBI is even being discussed is because of automation, which is set to vastly increase the supply of goods in the economy. Why would a store owner raise their prices because of UBI when they just got automated service workers?

Justin Nelson
Justin Nelson

giving white people their money back will cause hyperinflation
fuck off, idiot

Hunter Lee
Hunter Lee

yep and the bots would save on
cost of workers compensation
cost of worker insurance
cost of parental leave
cost of danger pay
cost of workers salary
cost of workers overtime
cost of workers holiday leave
robots don't need any of this shit, I'm sure I left some out but companies will save a tonne inevitably leading to falls in the prices of goods.

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Austin Lopez
Austin Lopez

buy bitcoin

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Jeremiah Butler
Jeremiah Butler

plans to benefit illegals and single moms
Like that isn't already happening over there, the only change would be that the rest also get the gibs and the leeches lose buying power

Daniel Collins
Daniel Collins

god is dead

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Landon Flores
Landon Flores

There's much worse things that can happen with UBI than those small problems.
MegaCorps will use it to go to a post-capitalist scenario where they control everything forever.

David Diaz
David Diaz

look up rent control, retard

Austin Parker
Austin Parker

wow, all the other threads were lame but you were like "hold my beer" and made a prison soap joke!! fucking epic!

Caleb King
Caleb King

what is moving to a place with less demand for rent thus lower prices
you don't understand capitalism do you....

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Parker Peterson
Parker Peterson

muh inflation
Stupid faggot.

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Cameron Wood
Cameron Wood

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Jason Powell
Jason Powell

but muh USA, muh big nation, muh hundreds of millions of people

Isaac Mitchell
Isaac Mitchell

But a big Mac is like $3 now. If McDonald's paid 18/hr then niggers wouldn't be allowed to work there anymore.

Matthew Myers
Matthew Myers

do you think that's an anti-yang image?

Jeremiah Nguyen
Jeremiah Nguyen

dont worry when robots come even whitey wont work there

Wyatt Cox
Wyatt Cox

A corporation works to maximize the profit of its shareholders, not its employers. They could probably offer much more, but their aim is not to do charity but profit.

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