Brenten was shameful

Gender is a spectrum but largely follows sex. Sex is not a spectrum, minor exceptions excluded.

There are exceptions to gender following sex, these should be catered for in society. However, they are by and large not the norm.

Seen the video, read the manifesto. Fail to see the profundity. What I see is a woefully misguided man.

youre muslim so you may just have zero reading comp but what youre saying will happen is what he said he wants to happen and then you say that none of what he said will happen...

Why do you faggots keep posting this innocent meme?

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Okay
>its a load of nonsensical self contradictory bullshit
Now what?

I'm not a Muslim. Care to elaborate?

fuck you, tarrant is brentman!

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So in retaliation to the shooting, Muslims can kill you because you come from 'the west' and are white? Does that logically follow?

The shooter, Brenten Tarrant, is a coward
Eh. He looks to be of at least average level of ballsiness.
> who slaughtered innocent defenceless people.
Yep. Even if some of the dead weren't innocent, there definitely were innocents in there being slaughtered, and they seemed pretty defenceless at the time

> Even if the mosque was linked to extremist activities, the people who lost their lives should not have suffered in that reprehensible way.
Agreed. That's what the justice system is for.

> It was misguided outrage, perverted justice, utterly disproportionate and shameful. It is so far removed from any notions of reasonableness, even in a legitimate war, such actions are universally condemned.
Well not universally condemned, obviously. Cos some people are celebrating it. But agreed, they're unreasonable and criminal. It wasn't justice at all.

> He is not a firebrand nor is he a maverick - doing what others are too timid to do - as some have claimed.
Definitions. He's arguably a maverick and arguably had done what others would do if they had the balls or means

> His actions and legacy will not change policy, rather, they will further polarize the population against the hard right, in all its flavours. They will serve as a convenient excuse to tighten every conceivable law pertaining to gun ownership, speech, and freedom of association.
Part A contradicts part B.
It's already changing policy. AU and NZ are both introducing bill changes and changing policies in response.

> You may exult him as a hero
I don't. He's an asshole.
> but this is due to your personal position in society situated comfortably on the lowest rung. If there was a button to destroy the world, you'd push it out of pure resentment and spite.
Very true of many others.

> Jews aren’t to blame for your position, the Muslims aren’t to blame, and women aren’t to blame.
As groups no. Some people who are jewish/muslim/female might be.

> It's more complicated than blaming these groups for your lot in life.
Agreed

> Life is not fair, some are more intelligent than others, some are born into wealth, some have more influence to propagate their ideas, and life is a struggle. But this is not an excuse to commit acts of murder on innocent victims.
Agreed.

> If you don’t agree with left policy and you think certain things are unacceptable, get involved in politics. Seek out the members of government who are for the same things you are and let them know you support them. Channel your energy into politics. Expose your ideas, however extreme they may be, to others and you can see where you’re right and where you’re wrong.
I am involved in politics. Carefully. On the left, too. Unfortunately many on the left are currently trying to silence people with those extreme ideas rather than argue them into the dirt. They have kneejerk emotional reactions of the masses on their side.

> More importantly, if you feel hopeless and things are against you, seek out a psychologist for therapy, it's never too late to turn it around.
Or just find a way to do something about it.

tl;dr

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Good point about the changing policy bit. You're right, it was contradictory. His actions will elicit policy change but not in the direction these guys want. This act will not help them.

If it's more than 300 characters, /pol users' eyes glaze over and go back to henti.

It was really terrible and cowardly, sure. But so is the invasion of Europe and the silent genocide of white people.

There should be a way to have to conversation without that conversation harming others. Hate speech - I understand the arguments for it. But to ban the difficult conversation results in mass shooters due to people festering away in communities and echo chambers like this. On balance, having the 'hateful conversation' is arguably better than not.

its why should take your blogpost back to ledit where it belongs faggot
considering your level of moralfagging and virtual signaling i'd even go the extra mile and say that you are, to some extend, responsible for what happened their
which makes you, knowingly or not, a complicit in manslaughter
because as you fags love to say
words do indeed have consequences

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Change the policy, you have representative government in Sweden. The 'silent genocide of white people' is not due to immigration. Firstly its not a genocide. It's reduced birthrates due to many factors, standard of living is one. Cost of living is another. Intermarriage is another. But many people don't see this as a problem. Why is it a problem? If two consenting adults love each other why shouldn't they be allowed to have offspring even if they are from differing ethnicity?

Show me where I'm wrong. Use your critical thinking not your 'pathos'.

you are wrong by blaming the messenger

You're weak, you don't belong here, your parents are ashamed of you. Die you weak faggot

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>moral grandstanding

Yawn. No shit, it sort of goes without saying that mass murder of innocents goes against the sensibilities of most well-adjusted people. Perhaps the relatively high percentage of ‘peaceful’ Muslims living within Western societies that condone terrorist attacks from their in-group towards whites haven’t quite gotten the memo yet, though. It’s almost as though integration is a fucking lie that means practically nothing, and that racial outsiders don’t buy into the ‘deracinated atomised individivualism’ meme that we’re inculcated into presupposing.

>you’re a loser bc u blame da joos and brown ppl for your problems

Same old lazy strawman that only exposes how clueless the speaker really is. Firstly, no serious race/JQ-aware person actually views the world in such reductionist terms, but more importantly, why is it that you assume such people to be (at least by contemporary social standards) ‘losers’ by default? Would it shatter your cosy worldview to discover that many of us are reasonably successful people that happen to hold beliefs and adhere to philosophical frameworks that contradict those that you’ve been socialised into accepting without much thought or critical analysis?

>get into mainstream politics

And waste untold amounts of time, money and energy on getting nowhere in a system that’s designed against us? Nah, you’re alright m8.

>your ideas are Xtreeeeme

Quite literally means nothing, particularly at this juncture in history. Not only is this an entirely relative notion in and of itself, but ours are ultimately values/ideas that are taken for granted as common sense outside of culturally subverted white countries (funnily enough). What’s extreme is not only tolerating demographic displacement, but welcoming the erasure of the genetic and cultural legacy of your ancestors, as though it were a force of nature that we simply have to shut up and take.

I'm a commercial lawyer at a top tier firm. In all ways I am better than you. Smarter than you, richer than you, mentally stronger than you. Good night.

Of course guy, Brenton was just like you and me, isn't it obvious? The memes were so cool, he really felt like /ourguy/ the whole time. OMG when the Remove Kebab song came on? I totally KEK'd, and it gave me those Deus Vult vibes! See pic related, that's my war face right now. Grr.

As for the manifesto, it is literally true. Muslims are the problem. Israelis and Jews are cool with me long as they stay in Israel. I mean I don't deny they dominate western civilisation and have their hands in all our nations, but as long as they cohabitat within the legitimate state of Israel then we can be bros. Heil Accelerationism, we march ever forwards!

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This isn't an argument. This is a poorly constructed troll post, something a child would make. You couldn't even bait to lose your virginity.

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I don't care dude, he killed shit skins. I'm happy. He sent a message, let's hope people get it.

>In all ways I am better than you. Smarter than you, richer than you, mentally stronger than you
you keep telling that to yourself and stay blissfully ignorant
and thanks for confirming my assumptions
faggot

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“B-but.. y-you’re a neon-nahtsee, so you MUST be a loser!!11”

Who was the other shooter in the other mosque? Only see people mention Tarrant

>I'm a lawyer
You're probably the most despised group of people in the world, tbhfam

None other than Samir al-Hajeed

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I'm used to it. All good.

I don't think that if you're a neo-nazi you're a loser, but I think there's a very strong possibility.

If you want to stop immigration, follow and support an anti-immigration party. Simple. There's plenty of them.

Even the scholarship on the 'JQ' is selective and leaves out differing viewpoints. It's not rigorous. That's why it gets left in the dustbin where it belongs.

and virtually all of them get shunned by (((MSN))) and moralfags like yourself till somebody decides the time for talking is over and starts taking action
all just because you didn't want to listen
i thought you wanted to leave faggot

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They do that anyway. Have you not been paying attention for the last twelve hundred years?

Answer the question, don't deflect.

> without that conversation harming others
I agree.
The thing is that people control (or can control) their reactions to words and what words they choose to listen to (as opposed to merely hear).
They cannot control their body's reaction to being struck, by fist, by blade or by bullet (ie, violence).
Words can also not cause people to die. No matter how much you tell someone something, they're not going to drop dead on the spot from it.
Given silencing people is more likely to push people to using fist, blade, bullet etc, and given words cause controllable or no harm and violence causes uncontrollable harm, we're better off having open conversations than silencing people and leaving violence as their only options.
We can't stop extreme ideas existing. No matter what we do.

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Nope, they get shunned because they're unpopular. If you want to change that, don't throw a tantrum, work harder and propagate your ideas. It's a democratic and representative government. It hasn't always been this way.

I should have deleted/changed the greentext quote as I shifted focus halfway through typing. Meh.

who has the video stream

you're either a greasy slimeball who gets niggers to walk free or someone sucking the states cock for gibs. if law wasn't such a tangled mess of ever growing shit to feed you welfare whores i'd believe your claims. also if you said paralegal instead of lawyer id believe it too eat a bowl of shit.

You're not a very intelligent person.

I agree. I'm a free speech absolutist, barring inchoate offences, I believe almost all speech should be allowed. It's one of the bulwarks against radicalisation.

>His actions and legacy will not change policy
Being this fucking stupid. Gun control and anti hate legislation already inbound
I don't think you can call him a coward either since he actually left his armchair and risked getting killed and he will continue to do so in prison.
He's still a filthy murderer though, don't get me wrong.

Commercial lawyer means I work with companies. You know, mergers and acquisitions, banking and finance, tax, property.

As I said, I should have qualified my post by saying it won't shift policy in the directoin you want it to.

He's a coward, despite risking his life, because he took the lives of defenseless innocents, regardless of the mosque's past.

Cheers. God knows you're a better judge of intelligence than anyone else.

That is true.

facts aren't very popular with (((MSN))) just like "democracy"
the sooner you realize that the better
it might safe life's

>free speech absolutist
>almost all speech
oh the irony

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Just gotta figure out how to shoehorn it into our const without it being sidelined to irrelevance like s116...

ah so the latter. same here honestly, hopefully the majority of this collapses in both our countries and we can pursue interests that can create far more value than digging through a headaches worth of legal forms. apologies for assuming then, take care.

and nothing will as long as (((they))) are in charge who won't allow that change
i suggest reading his manifesto
then read it again til you understand it
as a "lawyer" that shouldn't be much of a problem

>even if the mosque was linked to jihadist, it's not as bad as white supremacists, goy

Yeah. Every fucking time.

there's exceptions to every rule. some asshole out there is going to consider screaming in a 4 year olds face at the top of his lungs "speech", so the term 'almost 'fits if you consider speech that leads to a termination of contract law from coercive behavior. like if i said some company was using earthworms instead of ground beef, with no real validity to my claim other than further murky evidence and goal post shifting.

He did answer the question
They kill us for being infidels from the west and never needed the NZ shooting as a motivator
Reading through your posts though, I’m calling bait but taking it anyway

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all speech is the same in my book
no IFs and BUTs attached
let people speak and let them judge
if you don't like the reaction it creates i'd suggest keeping it to yourself

He did what he did because he knows the MSM will bite at it. Why did he use memes that the MSM has been saying are racist dog whistles when I myself was literally in each thread on Jow Forums and cripplechan when these meme campaigns were being made to laugh at the normies? Because He wants them to keep doing what they are doing so that the right will finally react. He knew they would tighten gun laws and make a big deal out of islamaphobia while sweeping 1,400 years of Islamic terror under the rug.

It's why the washington post has the audictymto say in there report about the shooting that the shooter was inspired by the crusaders who stole muslim holy lands. Muslim holy lands? Sorry last time I checked the muslims invaded sain and raped nuns first so nice little history revision

upside down poland

>there's exceptions to every rule. some asshole out there is going to consider screaming in a 4 year olds face at the top of his lungs "speech"
it is though, mayne the parents should step in at that point and ask why a grown man is in his child's face.
Oh the child is black and has no father and the man is it's mother's customer?

>Even if the mosque was linked to extremist activities, the people who lost their lives should not have suffered in that reprehensible way.
Why?

And what do Jews and women have to do with this? Stop trying to psychoanalyze us
>seek out a psychologist for therapy
Ah I see now

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His attack was retaliation for Ebba Akerlund and all victims of Muslim terrorists, rapists, and violent criminals. We haven't even begun payback

A lot of the "speech" that's criminal is so because of things other than the speech too.
Giving an order to commit a warcrime can be looked at as speech, but the actual crime isn't the words but the abuse of authority/chain of command to perpetrate a violent act
Perjury isn't about the raw speech but about perversion of the legal process
Fraud isn't about the words but about the attempt to defraud someone.
etc etc.
Threats aren't about the words but the expressed (and credible) intention to do whatever and to coerce someone.
Essentially - the kinds of acceptable restrictions on "speech" are actually about things other than the speech, and can be done without saying a word.
Something like hate speech however is just about the words and how people feel about it, and therefore should be allowed.

then that's fine if it's applicable to your own speech, but we're talking freedoms here. when should the state be allowed to intervene is the question. I'm all for not having a state though, don't get me wrong here.
>it is though, mayne the parents should step in at that point and ask why a grown man is in his child's face.
what if the parent is in a wheelchair? what if the current care taker is their grandparent? it's why state intervention exists, to prevent and punish wrongful doings through coercive force. speech can fall under that umbrella.
>Oh the child is black and has no father and the man is it's mother's customer?
I get the feeling you did not quite understand the whole point of my post, you may want to reread it and think about it some more.

Satire, and sarcasm aside, let's get the record straight that this Tarrant is an awful disturbed person whose condenable actions are total shit. What a loser. - now back to shitposting...

was also meant for

You better GTFO outta here...and I mean now! Don't ever come back

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Kike detected

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Why are you even fucking here faggot? Go be a ten year old girl somewhere else dickhead.

i already know you don't get what the free in speech means

free speech is censored by yourself and yourself only
as i said
no IFs and BUTs
the moment your start dictating people what they can and cannot talk about you create diversion which will lead to something worse, a lot worse, than words alone could ever be

> i already know you don't get what the free in speech means
What does it mean then mate? And what do you think I think it means?

it means you don't know what free means
think of it from the perspective of an ethical hacker
all information
readability available
to everybody
at all times
what you make of it is up to you

Youre a bumbling befuddled moron to notion that this situation is in any way philosophical or political. Your probably a woman, or wish you were and mindlessly following herd mentality, the synopsis of the liberal fuxktard mind. You wont think for yourself because you're incapable of it, especially in the context of defining your identity. SHUT UP.

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So just let the fucking government babysit everyone? Even God himself is not a micromanager like you want these elites to be.

You're right. He should have just walked in and set off a bomb, like Muslims do in churches.

My point in the post you replied to was that the things that get people in trouble which are often cited as exceptions to "free speech" even by free speech campaigners aren't actually about the speech but about the deed, and the speech component is merely incidental.

Yes, the words themselves should be unrestricted.

This was a tragic event. I feel terribly for the families of the invaders.

Blame Israel. Mossad financed this operation and trained the killer.

part and parcellerationism

This is why us as Humans will never move forward and end up killing ourselves one day. When? Sooner than later no doubt. Most of you just talk about what happened 1000s of years ago, instead of moving forward and make a change for the good, you all fail and do the opposite and try to make up "groups" of whos in the wrong and whos in the right....

Go fuck yourself muslim-lover. You know who else was innocent? Ebba Akerlund, and the thousands of other whites brutally slaughtered by shitskins in their own lands. The fact that this girl, and all the others who senselessly lost their lives at the hands of Muslim shitskin terrorists are no longer alive, is what’s really unfair.

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don't care lol. This is a civilizational struggle.

A white guy finally decides to put some work in against the Jewish controlled shitskin hordes and suddenly he's the worst thing in the world!

Oy Vey!

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The glow in the dark niggers and shariablue are changing their strategy, very interesting

Oh we're on Reddit now