Neocon sellout insults Ann Coulter

>Ann Coulter

Where are her white children?

>206795622
also what the fuck is Trump going to say if she debates him?
>BUILD THE WALL
HUrrrrrrr
Yeah good one Don

Ann could never win, it wouldn't be allowed, or else she would. She is openly further right than Trump and a racist, and she actually means it. She straight up said on national television that Trump should order the military to shoot the invading caravan.

Or they're both trash.

Ann Coulter is much better than Trump.

What does that even mean?

>She is openly further right than Trump and a racist, and she actually means it. She straight up said on national television that Trump should order the military to shoot the invading caravan.

How is that racist? Shes not saying to shoot them because they are brown. She's saying to shoot them because they are an invading force. And I agree with her. You know how many people would attempt to cross the wall if it meant you'd get shot at? A fuckton less than now.

Trump wants the largest number of immigrants ever, Ann Coulter wants the opposite.

Ann Coulter is an Illuminati/HRC asset.

I didn't say it was racist, but it's certainly further right and an opinion that isn't allowed. That Piro bitch on Fox started yelling at her then cut her off.

Ann ALWAYS complains but NEVER suggests a better option. She yaps like a little dog at Trump's feet about the wall not being built but never ever says how it would be possible to get a wall through congress. And for some reason, she also hates the national emergency, which is the only way trump will ever get his wall

>better option
Trump keeping his promises isn't the better option?

You're doing the exact same thing as Ann. Can you explain HOW Trump can build the wall other than doing what he's doing with the national emergency?

He declared the emergency after signing a bill which prohibits the wall because it gives veto to liberal counties.
So he shot himself in the foot, and he knew it, meaning he has declared the emergency as a political move and nothing more, to convince idiots that he is 'trying'.

He should have built it from day 1 with the army corp of engineers, he has that power.

Nigger, what? For all of Trump's time in office she has been saying on Twitter what to do. She said to do a national emergency long before Trump even started suggesting it. She laid out the exact codes in our laws that would allow him to circumvent congress and build the wall on his own, even without calling a NA.
>And for some reason, she also hates the national emergency, which is the only way trump will ever get his wall
Wrong. She was complaining that he stupidly opened the government by signing a bill that puts restrictions on the wall, and THEN called the NA. Because she knows that if this gets taken to court, signing that bill gives them reason to cancel it. If he had listened to her and his base and declared a National Emergency without signing the funding bill, there wouldn't be a problem.
Btw, there still isn't any wall progress. The National Emergency was an act to fool the sycophants like you.

>He declared the emergency after signing a bill which prohibits the wall because it gives veto to liberal counties.

The bill had a veto proof majority dummy, there was literally nothing he could do about it. If he veto'd the bill, it would go back to congress, get voted on again, and go through. Literally nothing would change. Calling a national emergency was the only way left to get the wall, hardly a "policial move".

>He should have built it from day 1 with the army corp of engineers, he has that power.

Again, not without declaring a national emergency first. The money has to come from somewhere. If he could just use the army to build it without needing to deal with the headaches and backlash of a national emergency or having to go through congress, then yes, he would have built it day 1 like you say.

Why don't you retards understand what a veto-proof majority is? Signing it or not signing it makes zero difference.

He should have vetoed it out of principle and then started screaming from the roof about how bad it was. Instead he lies to his fans saying 'finish the wall' at rallies.

Like
He could have not signed the funding bill. Both of these would also work, and don't need congressional approval.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurrection_Act
lawinsider.com/dictionary/public-law-85-804

And nothing would stop him using the army corp of engineers

>He should have vetoed it out of principle and then started screaming from the roof about how bad it was. Instead he lies to his fans saying 'finish the wall' at rallies.

Waste of time, nothing would have changed and he would have lost days/weeks as they brought it back to congress to vote on it again. The fact that it had a veto proof majority and that there was nothing else he could do destroys your original argument that it was only a political move. Can you admit to that atleast?

And get funding from where you retard. Trump declared the national emergency specifically so he could pull money from other branches to put towards the wall.

Ann Coulter is a shaved borzoi larping as an evil cunt to make republicans look like demonic assholes. She’s like a more watered-down David Duke in that sense—helps the enemy by merely publicly associating him/herself with the target.

Yeah, and sink his approval ratings even more. Great idea

He signed a national emergency after signing a bill that makes the national emergency demends null and void.
If he had vetoed it and screamed from the roof about how bad the bill is it would prove he really was 'fighting for the wall' instead of LYING.

Use the army corp of engineers, they have plenty of money.
Trump hasn't read the constitution apparently.

>hrc
Hillary
Boy you bes' not be down playing mah gurl hilldawggy. You aint monica.

>The bill had a veto proof majority dummy, there was literally nothing he could do about it.
Wrong. There is no such thing as "veto-proof".
1. Just because it can be overturned, doesn't mean he can't still veto it. At least if it was vetoed it doesn't have his signature, which would help him in court. Willingly signing the bill helps no one.
2. He pushed for them to hurry and compromise on a bill. It is highly likely that if he vetoed, at least in the house, they wouldn't actually get enough votes to overturn out of Republicans fearing going against the president. Many reps in the house said they are only voting because the president didn't tell them not to.
>Calling a national emergency was the only way left to get the wall
Again, you fucking retard, that's not the issue. The issue is that he waited and did it AFTER opening the government again, and also after Dems took back the house.
>Signing it or not signing it makes zero difference.
Like I said above, willingly putting your signature on it makes a huge difference in court. The argument between
>I willingly signed this bill and then after that declared an NA
And
>congress betrayed the American people by forcing a bill that harms the country and betrays what they voted for, so I vetoed and then declared an NA
Are drastically different. You clearly know nothing about our country, so you should just mind your own.

Trump couldn't build a wall with the insurrection act. The best he could do is deploy soldiers there

>And get funding from where you retard.
From the military you retard. You don't need a national emergency to get funding if it's the military funding, because you obviously would use military funding.

>implying
His approval rating immediately went down after signing that bill. People want to see him being strong and fighting against them. To the politicians surprise, Trump had the full support of his base, and the actual supporters of his message wanted a veto.

The emergency literally uses military funding though.

>He signed a national emergency after signing a bill that makes the national emergency demends null and void.
>If he had vetoed it and screamed from the roof about how bad the bill is it would prove he really was 'fighting for the wall' instead of LYING.

But saying that he's fighting for the wall by veto'ing it IS lying, because he's not fighting for it, because veto'ing the bill does NOTHING. Infact it would waste time because it would have to go back to congress and get voted on again.

It doesn't make the national emergency void by signing it you dumbass. Sign it or not, Trump knew that the only way out was a national emergency. And so he did that. That's not a good argument you're making. It's pretty fucking terrible actually

>Trump why did you declare an emergency if you signed the bill?
>"Because if I signed it or not, it would have made no difference, it has a veto proof majority. Veto'ing it would change nothing, and waste taxpayer dollars and everyones time, time that could be spent building the wall"
>Ok thank you Mr Trump.

Like really, how the fuck do you think that line of questioning would go down?

>Use the army corp of engineers, they have plenty of money.

Woah really? Cool man, can you point me to the billions of dollars of discretionary spending the army corps has that Trump can use at any time?

nigger dick

The point is it wouldn't be needed to order the army corps of egineers to build the wall.

Is Drumpf playing Minecraft Border Wall now?

Him vetoing it would be a matter of principle. He should have vetoed it AND started telling the public about what that bill means.
Instead he has LIED.

Trump goes to rallies saying 'finish the wall'. Hands out 'finish the wall signs'. He is lying to his own supporters. You cannot defend that.

>Woah really? Cool man, can you point me to the billions of dollars of discretionary spending the army corps has that Trump can use at any time?
Take a look at the US military funding. The POTUS is commander in chief.

>retarded menopausal roastie
That says things, almost word-for-word, that I say. She's practically a Jow Forums figurehead now.

All the sensible right wingers have left the Trump train.
His support comes from boomers and neocon kikes.

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>I am Jow Forums
Well okay, Omega Man.

>point out funding
>b-but he's the President!
b-b-b-b-but the FUCKING CONSTITUTION says government officials cannot spend money on X when it isn't specifically allocated for X, by law. Name the statute, section and line, that permits the use of Engineer Corps money to build shit for Homeland Security-related functions, you triple nigger.

>Wrong. There is no such thing as "veto-proof".

Retard. Veto proof means it goes back to congress and they vote on it again and it passes because the number of people voting for it is higher than is required for a veto from the president to stick.

>, they wouldn't actually get enough votes to overturn out of Republicans fearing going against the president.

Absolute nonsense. Trump was very vocal about the complete lack of wall funding in the bill, and many of the house republicans did NOT want to go through another round of government shutdowns. That is what the republicans were worried about more than going against Trump.

>Again, you fucking retard, that's not the issue. The issue is that he waited and did it AFTER opening the government again, and also after Dems took back the house.

...Ok? How the fuck does that have to do with anything? Trump shut it down to push the dems to give him the fucking money. They still didn't, and so Trump declared an emergency. NOBODY can say he didn't get dems a chance to not be obstructionists, and that was the entire point. To say he tried to compromise with the dems, but they're not interested in protecting the border.

>Like I said above, willingly putting your signature on it makes a huge difference in court.

No, it doesn't when the result will be the same. Legally speaking it's an extremely weak argument you're making, and you better hope that's not the main argument they will try to use.

Been waiting for Drumpf to say just ONE. ONE based tweet since 2015. Is it too much to ask for?

Except he's not wrong. He's actually getting things done in the face of massive resistance from liberals and even some members of his own party. Meanwhile, all Ann does is bitch and complain on Twitter, while offering nothing constructive or any practical solutions of her own.

>Retard. Veto proof means it goes back to congress and they vote on it again and it passes because the number of people voting for it is higher than is required for a veto from the president to stick.
Calling it veto proof is disingenuous, it implies it cannot be vetoed, which is false.
>Ok? How the fuck does that have to do with anything? Trump shut it down to push the dems to give him the fucking money. They still didn't, and so Trump declared an emergency
Stop being dense. He could have declared a national emergency during the shutdown. He did not have to wait to sign a bad deal.
>No, it doesn't when the result will be the same. Legally speaking it's an extremely weak argument you're making, and you better hope that's not the main argument they will try to use.
Right, legally speaking saying the president signing a bill for border barrier funding with restrictions, and immediately after declaring a national emergency for a wall, will hurt his argument in court is definitely a weak argument. Tell me, how badly are your knees hurting right now?

>From the military you retard. You don't need a national emergency to get funding if it's the military funding, because you obviously would use military funding.

Trump can't just take money from different military depts like that you dumbass. What the fuck do you think spending bills are for and why it has to go through congress. The national emergency is what allows him to pull funds from different branches as without approval from congress.

It's a system of checks and balances for a reason.

>He's actually getting things done in the face of massive resistance from liberals and even some members of his own party.
Reminder that not a single mile of wall has been built yet, while Trump just reposts videos and pictures of barrier build by Bush and Obama.

>Him vetoing it would be a matter of principle. He should have vetoed it AND started telling the public about what that bill means.
>Instead he has LIED.

Lied about what? He said there will be a wall. And we're getting a wall. Knock it off with your virtue signaling about how he should have flipped them the finger and Veto'd it and waste more time in congress rather than saying "k fuck you, Im building the wall".

>Take a look at the US military funding. The POTUS is commander in chief.

Congress exists for a reason.

>He said there will be a wall. And we're getting a wall.
He's been saying it for over 2 years and we still don't have a date for when construction starts.
>Knock it off with your virtue signaling about how he should have flipped them the finger and Veto'd it and waste more time in congress rather than saying "k fuck you, Im building the wall".
Why should we care about wasting time in congress? Odd that you keep bringing up wasting congress time (also tax money despite the fact that literally zero money was going to the shut, that's kinda the point of a shutdown). It's almost like you're just a deepstate shill pushing for whatevers best for the swamp monsters.

That's not true, but you'd be correct in saying that not much wall has been built, although more has been upgraded. He didn't have the funding for *new* barriers before, but now he does. Construction can actually start assuming land seizure and shit doesn't get tied up in the courts, which of course would be beyond Trump's control and not something any reasonable person would fault him for.

He cunt punted that traitorous bitch. Seriously why you guys choose any women over a man is fucking pathetic

>Calling it veto proof is disingenuous, it implies it cannot be vetoed, which is false.

NOBODY interprets it that way unless you're new to politics. Veto proof majority is a term that's been used for as long as I've been alive, and longer. Just because you interpret it like a retard doesn't mean everyone else is as flawed as you.

>Stop being dense. He could have declared a national emergency during the shutdown. He did not have to wait to sign a bad deal.

Why the fuck would he declare a national emergency in the middle of the shutdown? That makes no fucking sense. He used the shutdown to try and gain leverage on the dems with the threat that he will do it again if they don't give him the money he wants.

>Right, legally speaking saying the president signing a bill for border barrier funding with restrictions, and immediately after declaring a national emergency for a wall, will hurt his argument in court is definitely a weak argument

As I said, it's an EXTREMELY weak argument you're making. It will go like this:

>Mr. Trump, would anything have changed if you signed the bill or not
>Trump: No.

Yeah wow, really incredible evidence that him signing the bill was super damaging! Stop being retarded. He had lawyers working on this for 3 months prior to declaring the national emergency. He's well aware that he's in the legal right.

>don the zion thinking he is winning
go fuck yourself /ptg/

>He's been saying it for over 2 years and we still don't have a date for when construction starts.

We'll see how much it gets tied up in courts. He has the money as of now, the only thing holding back construction would be the legal side of things. I don't expect building to start until the end of the year.

>Why should we care about wasting time in congress? Odd that you keep bringing up wasting congress time (also tax money despite the fact that literally zero money was going to the shut, that's kinda the point of a shutdown). It's almost like you're just a deepstate shill pushing for whatevers best for the swamp monsters.

Because the longer that congress wastes time for the exact same result, the longer time it will be before the wall starts construction.

Also billions were lost during the shutdown. If democrats weren't stupid they could have avoided the shutdown, and used the money lost give Trump the money he asked for. But dems are retarded.

Ann Coulter is a fucking boss who speaks the stone cold truth.
takimag.com/article/trump-by-the-numbers/
Trump betrayed us. Its that simple.
Ann speaks out where almost everyone else goes whining away tail between legs. Sad!

Truth hurts, fuckface, cope with it.

MIGA my nigga

>And we're getting a wall
You have 55miles pending. Trump meanwhile is saying that he is currently building the wall, tweeting pictures of wall that was already due to be done as far back as George W. Bush.

As of right now there has been 0 wall built due to Trump. Pic very related.

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>Women
>Telling the truth
Idiot

Who does Ann Coulter propose I vote for instead if I want secure borders?

Actually, Ann is the voice of the average Trump voter who is extremely displeased that Trump is not doing shit to get the wall going, and that he;s sucking off Israel and letting Javanka lead his decision-making processes now.
If Trump would fire Jared, stop letting Ivanka get him on retarded social justice shit. All it’ll take for DRUMPF to get his redemption arc going is for him to finally push through with what we elected him for.

1) Less of a wall than even what Democrats already agreed to: Trump originally demanded $25 billion for the wall. Then he negotiated himself down to $5.6 billion. Democrats balked and only agreed to $1.6 billion. This bill calls it a day at $1.375 billion, enough to construct 55 miles. But it’s worse than that. This bill limits the president’s ability to construct “barriers” to just the Rio Grande Valley sector and only bollard fencing, not concrete walls of any kind. There’s no ability to adapt. Furthermore, section 231 prohibits construction even within the RGV in five locations that are either federal or state lands. Remember, the challenge with building a wall in Texas is that, unlike in other states, the feds need to navigate issues with private lands. The first place you’d construct fencing is on public lands, which are now prohibited. The national parks along the border have gotten so bad that park rangers are scared to travel alone in them.

2) Liberal local officials have veto power over wall: Actually, on second thought, it’s likely that not a single mile of fence will be built. Section 232(a) of this bill states that “prior to use of any funds made available by this Act for the construction of physical barriers” the Department of Homeland Security “shall confer and seek to reach mutual agreement regarding the design and alignment of physical barriers within that city.” With whom must the feds consult? “The local elected officials.” Now you can understand the brilliance of limiting the wall to the Rio Grande Valley. These are the most liberal counties on the border (thanks to demographics of open borders itself!), and there is practically no local official who supports the wall in these counties.

What are the consequences? This bill stipulates that “Such consultations shall continue until September 30, 2019 (or until agreement is reached, if earlier) and may be extended beyond that date by agreement of the parties, and no funds made available in this Act shall be used for such construction while consultations are continuing.” Thus, all the Beto O’Rourke type of politicians in that region have de facto veto power. There’s a reason why they didn’t authorize fencing in conservative counties like Cochise and Yuma in Arizona.

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>NOBODY interprets it that way unless you're new to politics.
Except that's the way you are using it. You are being disingenuous. You are pretending that he doesn't have a choice, when he does.
>Why the fuck would he declare a national emergency in the middle of the shutdown? That makes no fucking sense.
Exactly how does it not make sense? Makes a whole lot more sense than doing it after a bill that will prevent the NA in court.
>He used the shutdown to try and gain leverage on the dems with the threat that he will do it again if they don't give him the money he wants.
And it didn't work. And his reaction to that was to capitulate to Pelosi.
>As I said, it's an EXTREMELY weak argument you're making. It will go like this:
>>Mr. Trump, would anything have changed if you signed the bill or not
>>Trump: No.
You have zero idea how the courts work.
>He has the money as of now, the only thing holding back construction would be the legal side of things.
The only thing holding anything back is himself. He can start the construction tomorrow on public lands. The sooner he starts the better. You don't need to wait when declaring a national emergency.
>Because the longer that congress wastes time for the exact same result, the longer time it will be before the wall starts construction.
The whole point of a national emergency is not needing congress. He does not need their approval.
>billions of dollars were lost because we didn't use that money to fund anything
Lmao.

>You have 55miles pending

1.375 billion for 55 miles was in the budget that was passed. Trump has a total of 8 billion dollars however for the wall, which would give hundreds of miles.

As of now, yes, 0 wall. Construction probably wont start till near the end of the year.

>As of now, yes, 0 wall.
Yet Trump is tweeting as if he is CURRENTLY building the wall. Tweeting images of wall that was already due to be there from years ago.

He is handing out signs saying 'finish the wall' and ignoring which has made the wall fucked forever.

There’s simply no defending this, migapedes

"confer" doesn't mean veto power, and the texas state government can force the cities and counties to cooperate regardless.

National emergency overrides any of that. That was specifically written for the bill as is, with no national emergency.

They cant just go to Home Depot. We're turning into a banana republic, but were not quite their yet. He can move some money around, but you take from one and someone will be pissed. And trying to take 20B, (5B at a time) is going to piss a lot of people off. Then you have to maintain and secure it

>The only thing holding anything back is himself.

You and I both know it isn't that simple. Since when does the president have the authority to seize private land overnight? It will have to snake its way through courts first, unfortunately.

>As of now, yes, 0 wall
youtube.com/watch?v=S024otpADnQ
hmmm

boomers are stuck saying whatever trump and q tell them to say. it's quite sad that they can't think for themselves. truly the most brainwashed generation we have ever had.

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That too!

>1.375 billion for 55 miles was in the budget that was passed.
And he can only use that in the most liberal border city in Texas, can only build chicken fencing, cannot build on public park land, and needs mayoral approval. The NE doesn't change that.

>hehe liberal you’re just an NPC!
These retards can’t seem to stop repeating each other either.

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>can only build chicken fencing
Bollard fencing is as effective as a concrete wall
>and needs mayoral approval
nope

>You and I both know it isn't that simple.
It absolute is, that's the point of an NE.
>Since when does the president have the authority to seize private land overnight?
He can start with public land. The government owns most of the land on the boder. Eminent domain can wait until after we build on all the public land.

>The NE doesn't change that.

How do you figure? Those are the stipulations on that money only. Any additional funds beyond what Congress allocated to him wouldn't have those restrictions. That's the whole reason he's able to use them for barriers in the first place, this was money that was allocated for other uses but that he's reallocating to border security using his national emergency powers.

>Bollard fencing is as effective as a concrete wall
they were called obamafences for a reason

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>How do you figure? Those are the stipulations on that money only.
Right, so the 1.37 billion the leaf is bragging about to make the bill seem good is worthless. He can't actually use it in any effective way, so bringing it up means nothing.

That's not even half as high as the model that trump is installing,and it doesn't feature the outward facing plate which makes climbing nigh impossible without something like a grappling hook.

The emergency declaration got him the funding. It doesn't give him magical powers and allow him to snap his fingers and make border wall appear out of thin air.

You're right about it being logical to start with public land, though. But I thought majority of that land in the Rio Grande was privately owned?

If it can all be spent on wall, and it can be, then it's good enough. Local and county governments cannot block it because the bill does not give them veto power, and also because they are still under the rule of the texas state government, which supports the wall.

nothing personal kid

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I wouldn't say it's worthless, but yeah it obviously isn't ideal either. Unlike Ann, Trump had to actually compromise and work with Democrats in Congress on this funding.

He's right, he can't just built a wall instantly like Ann thought, he has to manipulate the dems and get past neocons

A ladder truck could be used to bypass any wall. That's not the point. The point is to make it very difficult to bypass the wall discreetly, and without resources.

I'd love to know how you happen to have knowledge on this. Did Trump personally ring you up and fill you in?
>It doesn't give him magical powers and allow him to snap his fingers and make border wall appear out of thin air.
It literally does. It gives him the power to use that funding to react to an emergency. That's why it's an emergency. If he needed approval, it would be completely pointless. The government owns public land and during a national emergency he can start building on that land to defend this nation. He is choosing not to act.

He didn't compromise, he bent over and accepted whatever Pelosi gave him to pretend he got a win. A compromise benefits both sides, that bill does nothing but hurt us.

>Except that's the way you are using it. You are being disingenuous. You are pretending that he doesn't have a choice, when he does.

The choice is IRRELEVANT, that's what you're small brain doesn't get, as it makes zero difference for the outcome. Pushing a button or Pulling on a lever to set off a bomb is also a choice, but it's an irrelevant one, as the outcome is the same.

>Exactly how does it not make sense? Makes a whole lot more sense than doing it after a bill that will prevent the NA in court.

Bill doesn't prevent the NA in court, try again. Team of lawyers were working with Trump for 3 months on this beforehand. They're not stupid.

>And it didn't work. And his reaction to that was to capitulate to Pelosi.

Indeed it didn't work, which is why he declared the emergency, because dems were obstructing.

>You have zero idea how the courts work.

I wasn't giving a court argument, I was giving the essence of what the argument would be. And it's true. Nothing would have changed if he signed it or not, thus making it irrelevant. Like with the example I gave earlier, claiming that I'm guilty for pushing the button to detonate a bomb when the only other choice was to pull a lever to detonate the bomb isn't much of an argument, as the result would be the same no matter what I choose.

>The only thing holding anything back is himself. He can start the construction tomorrow on public lands. The sooner he starts the better. You don't need to wait when declaring a national emergency.

washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/its-true-trump-really-did-start-building-more-wall-in-texas

He literally announced the emergency just a month ago. Calm the fuck down, there are legal proceedings he still needs to go through.

>The whole point of a national emergency is not needing congress. He does not need their approval.

Which is why he signed the bill and immediately declared a national emergency.

>Lmao.

k.