Is all the MGTOW, incel, blackpill, whomen are whores, is all this shit real or is just a problem with american women?

Is it the same guy who posts this pic in every thread?

>This will always and forever be bullshit statistic made up by incels to rationalize why no one wants to date their frogposting ass.
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Thank you. I could write a lot about this, it truly saddens me.

Not the kekistani poster. But you, sir, are an incel.

Most dating happens offline and there are much more men on dating sites than women. So of course women on dating sites are able to have higher standards. Or they might have unrealistic standards to bewin with and therefore are using online dating.

That sex drive theory has long been refuted. Women just prefer to have just a stronger preference for long term-dating than short term-dating.

> girlsaskguys.com/sexual-behavior/a22977-girls-on-tinder-do-smash-a-lot

Its absolutely true for casual sex, especially on dating apps.

>there are much more men on dating sites than women.
The ratio is about even on okcupid, and the ratios on the other dating apps aren't significant enough to account for the massive female advantage

>Most dating happens offline
How old are you? Online dating is pretty much the standard way millennials date. I see every single girl I know on tinder.

It's semi true
Women being whores is a bad thing and it's more common than it used to be
Many incels are just people who never got a date by the time they hit 17 and think it's over

>The ratio is about even on okcupid, and the ratios on the other dating apps aren't significant enough to account for the massive female advantage
There are at least 10% more of men. Combine that with the mating strategies people pursue on these sites and you aren't that surprised.

>How old are you? Online dating is pretty much the standard way millennials date. I see every single girl I know on tinder.
Being a boomer myself I can't say the same about my social circle. Most people met there partner offline or dating offline.

If women are whores for enjoying casual sex then men are mega-whores for enjoying casual sex. I don't necessarily think it's women's fault, they're just acting on impulses, but I still think it's delusional to believe incels simply need to "work on themselves". With the way things are, a certain proportion of men will simply not be getting laid under any circumstances unless they pay for it or are willing to fuck a hambeast.

It still hilarious when nerds are making up theories about their polar opposite: loud and noisy thots. And in all their glory they confuse them with women in general.

> fuck a hambeast.
So they are able to get layed. but it's below their "standards".

>Are all of my failures and untreated anxiety/depression my fault or is it everyone else's fault?

Take a wild guess.

Well ya. With how it is now the equivalent of a 6/10 guy who goes to the gym and eats healthy is a 4/10 hambeast who sits on her ass all day eating cheetos. Most guys would rather jerk off to porn than deal with that.

>If women are whores for enjoying casual sex then men are mega-whores for enjoying casual sex
I mean that isn't wrong
>but I still think it's delusional to believe incels simply need to "work on themselves"
They should only work on themselves for personal happiness, so they won't feel they need the women they desperately want to have
Kek, like how loud thots come up with theories about how incels are just murderous psychos who want to genocide women because they don't get the coochie
It's actually staggering how similar betas and whores are in certain ways, it's why they always end up together despite how much they both hate each other
"No one with $20 in their pocket in an involuntary celibate, it's why God invented hookers"
-Ice T

(OP)

Statistically, we live in the least promiscuous generation since the 1920's. Studies have found that not only has female sexual activity decreased but as attitudes concerning casual sex have become more accepting the average number of sex partners has decreased. Teen pregnancy has decreased as well. These coincide with CDC numbers that directly correlate access to reproductive health care, family planning resources and sexual education to a decrease in STD transmission, sexual activity and teen pregnancy. All of this data is published in the Archive of Sexual Behavior, a peer-reviewed journal on sexology. CDC studies have also provided corroborating data. Similar studies in the U.K. have not only found that young adults in our current generation are less likely to participate in casual sex but also less prone to other impulsive, high risk behaviors like drug use and crime. Again, my personal perspective is that people have believed that not hearing about/accepting casual sex is equivalent to it not happening where, in reality, every bit of data we have on the topic has shown that abstinence sex education in America directly contributed to one of the biggest booms of STD transmission and teen pregnancy rates this country has ever seen. Long story short is that the "rampant casual sex society" incels keep saying we live in doesn't exist and this theory, much like the rest of their ideology, is completely made up.

>come up with theories about how incels are just murderous psychos who want to genocide women because they don't get the coochie

Precisely how is this inaccurate?

>Statistically, we live in the least promiscuous generation since the 1920's
Based, thanks for the whitepill
>Precisely how is this inaccurate?
Like I said in the earlier post, most so called incels are just retarded teenagers who haven't had a girlfriend yet and think it's all over, and get sucked in by the memes

>most so called incels are just retarded teenagers who haven't had a girlfriend yet and think it's all over, and get sucked in by the memes
Well, I think this is a little dependent on whether or not these individuals identify as a member of the incel community or if other people have given them this title. Its a pretty big difference.

You fucking retard, of course reported sex partners is going to decrease with access to protection. Self reported statistics are meaningless, women lie about their body count all the time.

Hitler dubs of truth

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You still can't counter the 80/20 rule, which is really the main reason why """dating""" is a waste of time for men.
The issue isn't women being promiscuous; they are just extraordinarily selective and vapid. Shit product quality.
I do believe that it's sour grapes for many incels, but the fact is that MGTOW/TRP is mostly comprised of men who have had plenty of experience navigating the sexual marketplace, and they are certainly normal, well-adjusted people.
Life is simply too short to spend a lot of time trying to find another person to bond with when that person can ruin your whole life at the drop of a hat.

because 80% of males are just fat, manlets, incels, betas, balding, losers, poor, low IQ, beer gut, not interesting personality, no charisma.

I don't want to blame women because the average male is a fucking loser who prefer to blame women rather than self improve.

This is such a retarded double standard. Women are fat, lower income, no-personality, and lower IQ at a higher statistical rate than men yet for some reason they feel entitled to a high value man.

So go be gay with a man then lol what do you want

because that's how hypergamy works?

people think they're entitled to atractive couples.
the average incel think he's entitled to top tier or at least above average looking women but he doesn't realize he's as disgusting to those women as the fat whores they complain about.

So, is pretty hypocrit from both sides.

>You fucking retard, of course reported sex partners is going to decrease with access to protection
That isn't what the data shows. Read the study.

>Self reported statistics are meaningless, women lie about their body count all the time.
Self-reported statistics include margins of error for these exact kind of discrepancies. Self-reported statistics are a long standing and scientifically sound form of collecting data about the world around us. Also, the study finds that these decreases are consistent across both genders, not just women. The fact that you immediately assumed the statistics weren't true because of those mean, mean lying women only betrays your ignorant bias. Read the study. It can be found in the Archive of Sexual Behavior. If you aren't going to bother reading it then you have nothing of worth to add to the conversation.

>You still can't counter the 80/20 rule,
There is no 80/20 rule. There is one graph of data from a singular dating app and the hoards of Jow Forums users who have latched onto it and claimed that it is 100% gospel.

>Life is simply too short to spend a lot of time trying to find another person to bond with when that person can ruin your whole life at the drop of a hat.
An inability to navigate stress/disappointment/expectation is a hallmark of the MGTOW community in addition to chronic anxiety, depression and a general crippling fear of abandonment and betrayal. Generally speaking, this insurmountable fear and anxiety breeds failures in all aspects of life, not just dating. Its not that abandonment and betrayal don't occur, its just that normal, mentally healthy people are generally capable of overcoming these events and MGTOW/TRP men are not, therefore they've developed an entire ideology that justifies avoiding the risk of being hurt altogether.

>Self-reported statistics are a long standing and scientifically sound form of collecting data about the world around us
This depends on what you're gathering data for. If you asked thousands of men whether they've raped a woman, and none of them say they did, are you gonna trust that all men haven't raped because they all self reported that they didn't? In the same way, do you think a woman is going to tell her husband she fucked 100s of guys on tinder? Women having shitloads of sex partners is still something that's looked down upon by the vast majority of people and you can't rely on them to be honest about it.

>retard think he's smarter than the scientists who made the study
clearly you're too smart and clearly the scientists are too dumb to not account self reporting bias.

>appeals to authority
>"hurrrr anyone who spends 100k on a degree is factually correct in everything they say"
>*tips fedora*

How old are you? I'm asking genuinely. You sound like I did when I was 17.
I don't think being a manlet or balding or even being poor makes a person sexually unattractive, and if you go outside and see who is actually fucking who, that would become immediately obvious to you. The 80/20 rule is real. Tinder allows single mothers to feel that they're entitled to a traditionally handsome man because the app enables them to get attention or even a quick fuck from them. But men are the gatekeepers of commitment, and men opting out of the sexual marketplace is only hurting women in the long run.
I still maintain that there is nothing inherently wrong with most of these men. They are resentful because they were lied to for their entire lives.
Also, if men choose to be incels because they have something horrendously irredeemably wrong with them (Like being shorter than average or not having nice hair, according to you), then who are they really harming by becoming "incels" or MGTOW? Why does that make you so angry?

>scientists are too dumb to not take into account bias in their stadistical models
t. dumb nigger who never took a stats class

In my country there was a single who was unfit, brown as fuck, manlet, beer gut, ugly as fuck.
Literally like the incel meme about genetic trash.

he had 30 kids with more than 15 women.

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Can you restate your question please? It's a bit scattered. I might be able to give you a specific answer with references if I know what you're asking.

the blackpill meme is real or is just cherrypicking examples?

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>the blackpill meme is real or is just cherrypicking examples?
Do you mean, "Are there actual reasons that people should consider that would make dropping out of the sexual marketplace a good option for them, or are they just misinformed about the reality of the situation?" or "Are there actual people who buy into defeatist ideologies?"

Am I getting warm here?

>Its not that abandonment and betrayal don't occur, its just that normal, mentally healthy people are generally capable of overcoming these events and MGTOW/TRP men are not, therefore they've developed an entire ideology that justifies avoiding the risk of being hurt altogether.
So, again, if a person knows that they're not capable of handling the stress brought on by a failed relationship or unfaithful partner, who are they harming by opting out? You say it's an irrational ideology, but what if someone would simply just rather not subject themselves to the pain if they know they can't deal with it? Isn't that better for everyone ?

>using wrong the fallacy
t. nigger too dumb to even understand what the appeal to authority means.

read the wikipedia page of it.

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Shut the fuck up bitch, I have a degree in retarditis and you're one retarded motherfucker.

>he thinks the scientific comunity consensus depends on a single author opinion
nigger, this is like 150 years old science, you need to update like 90 years of progress.

>So, again, if a person knows that they're not capable of handling the stress brought on by a failed relationship or unfaithful partner, who are they harming by opting out?
I never said they were harming anybody by opting out. It primarily harms them, not anybody else. As I said, a crippling fear of failure breeds failure in all aspects of life, not just dating.

>You say it's an irrational ideology, but what if someone would simply just rather not subject themselves to the pain if they know they can't deal with it? Isn't that better for everyone?

Firstly, I never used the word irrational. You did. Don't put words in my mouth. Secondly, it would be better for everyone if not for the fact that MGTOW/TRP has specifically bred a more extremist ideology that is directly responsible for the deaths of many innocent people. Whether we like it or not, MGTOW/TRP has also in recent years become a common theme among the white nationalist movement as well. Conservative ideologies that promote the subservience of women and the purity of conservative race/gender constructs have become more and more connected. The ideologies tend to overlap quite frequently. If you want to hang out and live a sexless life because you're scared of being hurt then that's your life and your decision. However, the reality remains that a number of people who run in adjacent ideological circles have proven to be incredibly dangerous to the public. So, unfortunately, MGTOW/TRP communities can no longer be ignored and exist with impunity.

I don't understand how they can be hurting themselves if they have the self-awareness to know that sexual relationships are going to cause them more harm than good. I think people can be good at judging those things for themselves.
>MGTOW/TRP has also in recent years become a common theme among the white nationalist movement as well
Wow, I'm sorry but you really missed the mark with this one.
MGTOW is mocked and ridiculed by stormfags because it doesn't allow for >muh white babies. There are Machiavellian concepts in TRP like dread game, and of course the idea of being the leader in a relationship as a man, but I've always seen abusive and racist ideas shut down on leddit/TRP and /MGTOW. In fact, there is much acknowledgment that the black community had to deal with these problems long before the rest of us had to, probably due to the scarcity of resources.
I will grant you that I have seen some talk of race and IQ, but I honestly see this as having grown out of the atheist-materialist worldview, not white nationalism, although it is convenient for both ideologies.

It's not black and white. Yes, all women are whores. But well begun is half done, and the logical conclusion to that thought is not "well I'll give up now that I have a good excuse." No, it is to exploit the biological weaknesses of females for your own benefit. There's no reason to be an emotional faggot about it and lament like... a woman. If they don't want to settle for a 30 y/o roastie they should become more powerful.
Refusing to accept the realities of both genders is a grave error.