Is 18 too young for a 30 year old?

is 18 too young for a 30 year old?

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Not neccesarily. But for a given specific case, probably.

Then again, I don't think 12 years is that much of a difference. It depends on the maturity levels of the participants.

I agree. going to smash

I'd say the far majority of the time it is weird as fuck. But the rare exception is possible, but very rare. The guy should still be a bit innocent and emotionally mature and the girl should be much beyond her years mature and have a life plan set for herself. I've yet to see it possible in real life because rare, but I did see a movie where it was possible because of the characters having the above traits.

on Jow Forums no

in real life yes

Generally yes. 18yo are borderline children, still years away from having fully developed brains. If it's just sex, and you trust that she somewhat knows what she's doing, then nobody here is going to stop you, but you should really consider the reasons why a relationship between a 30yo and a 18yo is irresponsible.

Now, it's not an issue of age gap in and of itself. I'm myself in a relationship with a women 10,5 years younger, but she's 24, so for all intents and purposes she's an adult, even as she's considered very young in the eyes of people in their 30s. I believe personally that men in their thirties shouldn't push for younger than 21-22. I fucked a 21yo a couple of years ago, and it's one of the extremely few lays I've ever had any regrets over. 21 is basically still a teenager, hadn't had enough years of experience in social situations with people much older, and are unpredictable in terms of emotions.

Only if the pussy is twelve. Make sure her ID isn't fake.

Who the fuck cares women are giant children into their eighties. If you want an equal fuck a guy.

are you a man or a woman, or gay?

To be fair, she was Asian and her family were strict Christians.
It just got annoying when I'd keep her past 10 and her dad would call. Especially if it was in the middle of sex or us fooling around

>If you're not old enough to buy hard liquor or get into clubs

Drinking age is 18 where I live.

> but getting into a relationship with one is social suicide for both parties, and will inevitably either be seen as an oppressive relationship or a mentally underdeveloped man. Either way it won't last, and will leave a mark on her further development.

You don't sound very good at maintaining relationships. I've been with girls 10+ years younger than me and I didn't leave them traumatized.

>To be fair, she was Asian and her family were strict Christians.

Double jeopardy

>You don't sound very good at maintaining relationships. I've been with girls 10+ years younger than me and blah blah blah

As I already stated in >it's not an issue of age gap in and of itself. I'm myself in a relationship with a women 10,5 years younger, but she's 24
>it's not an issue of age gap in and of itself.
>it's not an issue of age gap in and of itself.
>it's not an issue of age gap in and of itself.
It's the fact that 18 year olds aren't adult women, and adults should be with adults.

Also
>Drinking age is 18 where I live.
Drinking age is 18 in Norway as well, but not for hard liqour. I don't care whether she can buy beer at the store, when she can't get into clubs, and lack experience with interracting with people of other age groups in those kinds of social settings, which is crucial for preparing for potentially manipulative men with huge advantages, having been in the game for more than a decade.

For a 30-year old man? You're a faggot if you think there's anything wrong with dating an 18 year old woman. I'm 34 and I would date a 17 year old, I don't give a fuck, that's the best age for a woman. I would be proud of it. Only problem is sometimes they have a fucking annoying personality. Also fuck you for having the opportunity.

>It's the fact that 18 year olds aren't adult women

They legally are.

>Drinking age is 18 in Norway as well, but not for hard liqour. I don't care whether she can buy beer at the store, when she can't get into clubs, and lack experience with interracting with people of other age groups in those kinds of social settings, which is crucial for preparing for potentially manipulative men with huge advantages, having been in the game for more than a decade.

18 year olds here can buy whatever liquor they want and can go to whatever club they want.

>I don't give a fuck
>I would be proud
>Also fuck you for having the opportunity.
Jesus Christus, the virgin-badass crossover.
Gain some self awareness, my child.

Awareness of what, asshole? I meant the opportunity to date an 18-year-old. I had beers with a hot 18-year-old a little over a year ago but I've never fucked an 18-year-old. But I'm not a virgin, fucked 7 women, although I'd like to fuck more than I do. I'm talking to a 21-year-old right now, had an instadate with her yesterday, don't know what will happen with it. Fuck you.

Ok, Esteban.

What's your thoughts on Germany then? Age of consent in Germany is 14. You'd be a fucking huge creep if you groomed a litteral child and went over there to fuck her, don't you agree? Legality is one thing, and although I'm not normally a moralist, you must see the difference between a 24yo guy fucking a 18yo, and someone in their thirties doing it. A line must be drawn somewhere, and in my estimate 21-22 is plenty healthy for +30yo men, given that
>they have a fucking annoying personality
>I dated a 20 year old when I was 28 and it was a huge pain.
>a lot of them are still growing so they're more immature and into the dating games most of us have outgrown

If you so desperately want to maintain your youth when you're pushing 40, a 24yo will be young enough to fill that empty hole inside you. Give late teenagers a few years so they at least get to learn how dissapointing 20yo guys are, before moving on to older men.

>had an instadate with her yesterday, don't know what will happen with it
>don't know what will happen
If you were mature enough for this game, trust me, you'd know.

No

It's weird and pathetic.

If you're a 30 year old man and you are pursuing an 18 year old girl you're a fairly pathetic and weak person.

But hey if you can rationalize your own self esteem, then go for it.

>Ok, Esteban.

Try again.

>What's your thoughts on Germany then? Age of consent in Germany is 14. You'd be a fucking huge creep if you groomed a litteral child and went over there to fuck her, don't you agree?

It's technically 14 and there's all sorts of ifs and buts tied to that law. I also wouldn't want to fuck someone who's just a couple of years into puberty. That's too young and it's really the exception. AoC is almost always 16-18.

It's 18 where I live and that's fine. If a 18 year old is able to drive a car and join the army and have a job and pay taxed and buy alcohol and firearms and vote, they're not dumb little children when they date someone older than them who suddenly can't make decisions for themselves.

>Legality is one thing, and although I'm not normally a moralist, you must see the difference between a 24yo guy fucking a 18yo, and someone in their thirties doing it. A line must be drawn somewhere, and in my estimate 21-22 is plenty healthy for +30yo men, given that

Nah. See what I wrote just now. An 18 year old is an adult in almost any country. They have all the rights and responsibilities that it incurs. They're not dumb little kids.

>a litteral child
When a girl has had her first period she's not a child anymore. I would date a 15 year old when I'm 60, I don't give a shit. A lot of feminists here.

>if you can rationalize
I want to fuck a tight teen pussy. What's there to rationalize?

Femanon I'm guessing

>I would date a 15 year old
If her body was fully developed

If you're adult the second you turn 18, you'd still have zero seconds of experience as an adult. A 30yo will have 12 years. It's not fair game, but people have cheated in worse games, I guess.
We won't get any closer than this to an agreement.

Isn't the brain a part of the body though?

>If you're a 30 year old man and you are pursuing an 18 year old girl you're a fairly pathetic and weak person.

Complete bullshit. An 18 year old probably takes even more more effort to deal with than someone older.

That part makes sense, but mentally how could you possibly relate to an 18 year old girl??? I just don't understand the mentality. I mean yeah she might have a nice body but as soon as she opens her mouth you can see you are talking to basically a child, and that, I would think, would be a turn off. But hey that's me.

Nope. I'm a guy and I've had sex with many women.

Even when I was 26/27, youngest I could date was 20 or 21. Girls at 18 are halfway retarded.

Not sure how a 30 year old man couldn't see that.

If it's purely about the sex, then go get an escort. Don't do some weird pathetic shit, trying to date an 18 year old girl.

Just makes sense to me.

>experience as an adult
What does this mean and how does it relate to dating and relationships?

What doesn't make sense is, that after you've fucked a few times, how could you possibly relate and enjoy the company of someone about half your age??

You really are a special kind of retard if you recommend going to an escort instead. jfc

>talking to basically a child
Everytime, an absolute non argument.

>Even when I was 26/27, youngest I could date was 20 or 21. Girls at 18 are halfway retarded.

People can be 45 years old and be completely retarded.

Being able to make informed decissions and understanding implications.

I can confirm this, my ex-gf was 33 and did not know how to adult at all.

18 year olds aren't jaded and cynical, and they're not know-it-alls either. They're passionate about whatever they're into and they love trying out new things. They actually enjoy life and you can't help but share that with them.

as long as it's legal then who gives a shit

what does this even mean, I'm not asking an 18 year old to file my fucking taxes or invest my money for me.

You forgot to mention impressionable.

it's creepy, but you can pull it off if you have lots of money and are incredibly attractive. Chances are you aren't though

Is sex utterly non-consequential in your opinion, user?

This sounds an awful lot like the psychology of a pedophile.

I'm out, you older guys want to fuck teenagers, hey go for it.

Surely this will have no negative consequences whatsoever.

I was 31 when I got with 18 y/o gf, I'm not exactly attractive and don't have any money. So your argument is invalid, it really depends on the girl and the connection you have.

Pedophiles are a whole different game. You don't want to go there.

Yeah I'm a pedophile for wanting to have legal sex with adults that are well above the age of consent. That's how that works.