Anyone else start to realize that Christianity is just a proto version of Communism?
Christianity tells us that we're all equal under Christ and that all souls are equal. Communism/modern SJW theory says that all people are equal and one race the human race etc. Christianity is just spiritual version of that. Christian iconoclasm is the same thing as modern SJW statue destroying and cultural revolution.
And I've seen the Jow Forums apologetic before, "but Jesus and some popes had some mean things to say about the Jews"
And so what? So did the Romans, Greeks, Egyptians, etc. Christians are not exclusive in that regard. And Christianity was a net upgrade for Jews when you think about it. Before all the goys were Christian, they hated Jews and thought their religion was bullshit. Romans waged war on Judea etc. After Christianity, now all goys believe Jews are god's chosen. And even if the Christian goys still don't like the Jews, the Jews still win in the long run, because now the Christians won't kill them. Romans didn't give a fuck about 10 commandments and muh chosen.
Christians are also responsible for the modern invasion of Europe aka refugee crisis. Angela Merkel is part of Christian party in Germany. >but the Jews let them in And? Christians accepted them because Christ told us to be nice to the based refugees. relevantmagazine.com/god/what-bible-says-about-how-treat-refugees/
I am 100% convinced the only reason European peoples even managed to survive and exist through 2000 years of Christianity thus far is because of transportation technology being shite for a long time. Now that airplanes and modern technology exists we can see all the cucked elements come out with the "let the in" ideology in full swing. don't pretend refugees are welcome mindset didn't come from christian moral values.
And these are just the values Christians extend to MUSLIMS. Imagine if these 'fugees were christian. Europe would be taking in every sangnigger and african if they were Christian because we're all one under Christ and etc.
I want to think it's based but I fail to see what it has accomplished that Greeks and Romans didn't accomplish before it. Greeks knew about virtue and counterpoint to your Reason.TV boomer talking points Jews did not invent monotheism in the slightest. Every culture had some form of monotheism and knew that God exists you can read this in Plato and other philosophies/religions long before the old testament was even translated into Greek and goys had a chance to read it.
All Christianity gave us was a spiritual communism and refugees. That's it. Please prove me wrong because I'd like to be proved wrong but the more I think about it the more I just realize everything wrong in modern society is because of cucked universalist morals which were given to us by Christianity. Christianity is just more civnat cucked bullshit. "It's based that our country is full of niggers cuz at least they believe the same thing we do" once again making the retarded jew mistake of believing that beliefs are the only difference between people and not DNA and culture
John Richardson
Back to your discord, tranny
Cameron Perry
epic response my redditor I'll take your bump but you can fuck off now
Leo Taylor
Yes Any basic research of philosophy and history reveals Christianity as what Nietzsche called "slave morality." It's literally the glorification of being a fucking loser, and inversion of values to put virtue on weakness.
Because of the conditions it was growing in, Christianity was basically the religion of the incels of the way-back-when. Nobody liked them, and they wanted political power, so they made a merry band of losers vying together to get it. >Master morality weighs actions on good or bad consequences (i. e., classical virtues and vices, consequentialism), unlike slave morality, which weighs actions on a scale of good or evil intentions (e. g., Christian virtues and vices, Kantian deontology). >masters are creators of morality; slaves respond to master morality with their slave morality. Unlike master morality, which is sentiment, slave morality is based on re-sentiment—devaluing that which the master values and the slave does not have. As master morality originates in the strong, slave morality originates in the weak. Because slave morality is a reaction to oppression, it vilifies its oppressors. Slave morality is the inverse of master morality. As such, it is characterized by pessimism and cynicism. Slave morality is created in opposition to what master morality values as "good".
Parker Bell
Where can people who realize Christianity is wrong even turn? All the religions are Abrahamic jew shit and I don't wanna be a pagan LARPer.
Also if you could elaborate more on that please do. I've read some Nietzsche before and thought the consequence vs intent morality was interesting
Xavier Wright
Christianity is following the word of God and rejecting degenerate things. Christianity is what made Europe into the center of Culture and Knowledge by the end of the 19th century. It has nothing to do with bending over to an invader. Currently there is no Christianity in "the west", Christians aren't the ones making decisions.
Jason Bell
thats BLASPHEMY to Yahweh! Bible is the word of g-d and Jews are the chosen people!
It's funny because if you read some old Philosophers, back before Christianity existed, when they talked about the Old Testament, they all referred to Moses as its author. It was just common knowledge of the day like how we know Plato was the author of Timaeus.
They don't want to admit God didn't write it, Moses did. In the Talmud, it says you should kill anyone, jew or goy, who claims the Torah was written by Moses and not God.
Luke Campbell
I, personally, am a pantheist/monist, I structure my moral framework around the Golden Verses of Pythagoras,who essentially set out this view for Western culture. Because, you see, not all the Greeks were polytheists.
But aside from this, Christianity in the beginning was the religion of the illiterate. Blessed are the meek, right? It's pretty much exactly like the Communist glorification of the dredges of society, they make it a sin or at least, inferior, to be successful.
The Jews, a people “born for slavery”, “the chosen people among peoples,” as they themselves said and believed, achieved the amazing feat of inverting values, thanks to which life on earth for two millennia has possessed a new and dangerous appeal. Their prophets fused “rich,” “godless,” “evil,” “violent,” and “sensuous” into a unity. In this inversion of values (to which belongs the use of the word for “poor” as a synonym for “holy” and “friend”) lies the significance of the Jewish people: with them begins the slave rebellion in morality >Beyond Good and Evil
Luis Barnes
>Christianity is what made Europe into the center of Culture and Knowledge by the end of the 19th century Actually that was the Greeks.
Matthew Young
Greeks weren't all over Europe organized as a moral base for all its peoples.
Adrian Roberts
Christianity justifies the ownership of property and slaves though, its not about equality at all in that regard and it also puts fortune in the hands of a god that only favors a tiny minority while everyone else who isn't a slave gets to be serf.
Owen Taylor
I love when Christians say Greek society was degenerate homos when the modern West has more pozzery, AIDS, and globo homosex going on than Greeks could have ever dreamed of desu
>you need Christianity to have a civilization Japan seems to be doing fine desu
Lincoln Martinez
This. Europe used to be an uncivilized and barbarian shithole. It wasn't until the holy Jews came and enlightened Europeans that we became a superpower
Carson Edwards
If 'Communist' wasn't a dirty word, they'd be proud of it.
>is just a proto version of Communism? that's proof you are a materialist kike without a soul, for better or worse, you're a jew clone
Nolan Parker
>Seeking alternatives You know, just live your life as if there is no god, you are technically an atheist who larps as a Christian anyway, just as most Christians.
Just avoids fags and niggers, how hard can it be?
Caleb Rodriguez
>What is philosophy I think you guys should read a book. What does Renaissance stand for again?
Adam Harris
You can thank (((Jews))) for turning good words like "community" into something bad.
you sound so stupid that I really reckon the premise that all people were born equal.
William Reyes
Abandon the concept of Gods. They don't exist. In the end, we're just a bunch of animals squabbling over who's book is supreme in a small rock in the gigantic universe
What's your point? Christianity caused the Dark Ages? It's really that simple? Come on. You wouldn't have a gotten a Renaissance out of a shitty country with no moral code for good and against evil like the Bible has.
Mason Martinez
Only reason they fought back is because they weren't Christian. Make no mistake if the Huns and Turks were Christian they would have #letthemin
Jace Myers
Its actually is, for example
Nolan Harris
Do we need a thread by some stupid 17 year old retard who just discover Nietszche for the first time?
Brody Sanchez
>Be me >Say why Christianity was only a means to herd the goy cattle >"N-NO U DA JOO" >Mfw
You didn't answer the question. What is the meaning of Renaissance. Why was it called that? You know the answer I'm sure but you don't want to admit that the greatest thinkers were all inspired by Greek pagans and the church contributed nothing but banning their work.
Landon Roberts
>No one invented moral codes before Christianity did
The Church created those schools that ended up teaching philosophy. They created a high trust society where this was possible.
Lucas Brooks
Yeah you wanna talk about the Jew's moral code?
Jeremiah Morris
It was a Byzantine pagan who even brought those texts to be translated back into Latin in the West. Latin speaking Christians quite literally destroyed Plato down to a fragmentary work of Timaeus.
Ethan Morgan
>Be me, Alexander the great, conquering through Asia because the persians always attacked us >Conquer the Levant >some obscure cult calls me the hero of myth and legend >Feels-good-man.png >Offer them tax exemption for life
All philosophies taken to extremes go to dysfunctional places.
SJWs are hyperbolizing a crazy form of Christ, just as Nazis were hyperbolizing a crazed form of Alexander.
Christianity prevailed over the Romans because the Romans were basically nakedly amoral. It persisted through the Reformation and technological revolution because it was flexible
Forgiving those who trespass against us doesn’t mean that we have to let them trespass again, and there was nothing weak about Christ defying the Romans.
Michael Mitchell
You're also still avoiding the question. Why do you do this? Do you not want to admit that the Renaissance, the beginning of Europe's golden era, is quite literally named for being a REBIRTH of GREEK Pagan study, to which we owe the most credit for our success?
Juan Gray
Why don't we talk about Gilgamesh and Sargon of akkad? Not the neck beard
Justin Butler
yes, venice did rekt byzantium
Benjamin Foster
>It was a Byzantine pagan dude, Byzantium never left Classicism , they tough that shit in their Christian universities. There was no Dark Ages there .
it doesnt matter, now we're Christian and soon all Orthodox, things are looking good for the future
What's your point? The Church was subverted? It may have been, I don't really care about who did what. Just look at today's society, Christianity is GONE from almost every institutions (if not all). "Right-wing" politicians are not Christians. There's no "good" in our lives now and it's all thanks to Jews. Your philosophers aren't bringing kids into a righteous path in life. They read Socrates or whoever and just forget about em once the exams are over in your faithless schools.
Jose Ward
You don't even know what I'm talking about... Ask questions if you have to but don't argue with me because you are well outclassed. Here, I will educate you a bit in the subject. You're welcome.
Agreed. See how Europe handled enemies. See Carthage. Now "bases" cruseders. "We can not genocide them we must convert them." Christianity introduced genocidophobia. Only jews can genocide now hence they have long term strategic advantage.
Henry Clark
HELLO , Byzantium tought Greek Classics, get on my fucking level here and understand what you read, it was the largest book market in the world for 500 years, what books? greek writings .
and they will die just like their enablers THE JEWS >why? BECAUSE CHRIST IS KING
Yep, Christianity is indeed the gateway drug to Leftism. Hence why Cultural Marxism is able to flourish so strongly in white, European, current and former Christian countries compared to anywhere else.
Jason Jones
no, limiting jews is a divine blessing to the planet
The Catholic church was always super shitty. The Orthodox church was a little better but still shitty. It basically chased some of its greatest thinkers into Persia because they banned their religion, who then later created the Islamic Golden Age and the House of Wisdom.
Bentley Cooper
Dude, you don't even know what you're talking about, stop posting. Learn who Pletho is you retard pleb.
Luis Gutierrez
>pletho >pleb running out of alliterations ? KYS imbecile , the influx of Greek texts into the West came after the fall of Constatantinople by scribes, it's like commonly known history.
William Thomas
After thinking some I realized that all religion is just a tool to foster a healthy sense of unbreakable racial cohesion. And the Jews simply stumbled upon the best method on accident. Instead of holding hands around a giant stone with runes on it they just intellectualized it.
In the book, "Jews Must Live," a book written by a 'traitor' jew who got pissed and revealed the jew secrets because he got scammed by other jews, he talks about how ancient Jews had to struggle between the instinct to go back to worshipping idols, and going back to "God." pdfdrive.com/jews-must-live-by-samuel-roth-e22971533.html book here
some quotes from the book that really get my noggin joggin
>"The story of Abraham becomes eloquent with intrigues and alliances between himself and other desert bandits and — God. He solemnly announces his allegiance to a new Deity, and, probably to economize on the expensive materials which went into the making of idols, and to save himself the trouble of having to cart them with him in the desert, he invented God’s in-corporeality"
Jews made up an invisible omnipotent god because moving physical idols around was too expensive. Kek.
>"For the rest of the people worship idols and images. What are idols and images? Things made out of wood, stone and brass. If the idol is of wood, stone will break him. If he is of stone, brass will crumble him into shapelessness. And if the idol be made of brass a metal stronger than brass will be found to shatter him. But what can be found between Heaven and earth to destroy your God? There he is, your Lord God, high in the sky, where no human being can reach him even with the aid of the eye. There is deep wisdom in having a God whom your neighbor cannot possibly reach either to jostle him or to implore his favors. That is your wisdom, my people,that is your strength. It elevates you to a place so much higher than your ignorant neighbors that you really need give them no consideration whatsoever.”
The jewish "god" is nothing more than an abstract concept Jews invented so the goyim couldn't physically topple their idols. That's literally it. It's like when were in 2nd grade and you had those 1-upping contests with kids on the playground. "I shoot you with my gun!" the other kid responds he's bulletproof. Then you reply your gun goes through bulletproofness. Then the kid replies he's super bulletproof. And so on. Do this with spiritual idols until you get some Coldsteel tier shit "uhm actually the thing we worship isn't physical he's actually super omnipotent and he chose us and your gods are all lame"
This brings me back to what the path forward is. It's simple.
If white people want to continue existing, we simply need to do what the jews have done. The best of the whites will invent up some purely abstract, incorporeal God, who is actually the most swag god who exists and none exist before him. And we will get all of the white people to feverishly believe it. And also you can't join our club unless you're born into it or jump through 5000 hoops like you have to if you want to convert jew.
This would also explain why jews are so neurotic and so obessed with social constructs and things only really existing in the mind, because that's their entire ethos of existence.
Anyways, goodnight pol.
Oliver Wright
I've started to turn to Buddhism. It's a spiritual and self-development path to becoming YOUR VERY OWN Jesus Christ, instead of just worshipping one and merely just asking for free gibs from him like a typical pseudo-Socialist Christian. I'm of the belief that Jesus was what those here in the Orient would call a "Buddha", and Buddhism teaches how to ascend on such a path on your very own.
Lucas Russell
Well just look at the Vatican for example, Jews really did subvert the church, it doesn't make the message of Christ wrong, it only means the institution is corrupted.
Connor Perez
>It has been speculated that the Academy did not altogether disappear.[37][39] After his exile, Simplicius (and perhaps some others) may have travelled to Harran, near Edessa. From there, the students of an Academy-in-exile could have survived into the 9th century, long enough to facilitate an Arabic revival of the Neoplatonist commentary tradition in Baghdad,[39] beginning with the foundation of the House of Wisdom in 832; one of the major centers of learning in the intervening period (6th to 8th centuries) was the Academy of Gundishapur in Sassanid Persia. >Neoplatonism ostensibly survived in the Eastern Christian Church as an independent tradition and was reintroduced to the West by Pletho (c.1355 – 1452/1454), an avowed pagan and opponent of the Byzantine Church, inasmuch as the latter, under Western scholastic influence, relied heavily upon Aristotelian methodology. Plethon's Platonic revival, following the Council of Florence (1438–1439), largely accounts for the renewed interest in Platonic philosophy which accompanied the Renaissance. >Pythagoras continued to be regarded as a great philosopher throughout the Middle Ages and his philosophy had a major impact on scientists such as Nicolaus Copernicus, Johannes Kepler, and Isaac Newton. Pythagorean symbolism was used throughout early modern European esotericism
Just gas yourself, shit-for-brains. You should have known better than to be posting while black.
Levi Baker
After the Greek classics began to be circulated across Europe again in the Renaissance the Church then attempted to "expurgatio" the works of people like Plato, Aristotle, etc.
People who give Christianity the thanks for Europes intellectual development are ignoring the churches assault on it.
Matthew Cruz
No, go look up wikipedia like a single-ressource nigger where it says the driving out of scholars at the time of the fall introduced MASSIVELY Greek texts in the west by 'refugee' scribes as teachers of nobles'kids in Florence.
That book of yours better not be written by a fucking kike.
Andrew Lopez
>Anyone else start to realize that Christianity is just a proto version of Communism?
Most proto-Communist uprisings were explicitly Christian in motivation. The Cathars, Anabaptists, the Taiping rebellion.
Landon Diaz
Well that was not my argument, we can stop there, I said Christianity brought the morals to Europeans which allowed for a high trust society with schools and all of that. The advancement of science is a great thing but today people are left envying the Amish's lifestyle, that's because we don't enjoy the strong morals they enjoy (in my opinion).
Brody Garcia
Japan is a very moral and organized society built on respect of others and cooperation (inb4 muhh anime muhh hentai, etc etc) while also being largely pagan/agnostic (Shinto) or even atheist. They didn't need cucked Christianity to make that happen.
Noah Flores
It all depends how you view god.
Obviously this isn't a Christian view, but if 'god' is objective truth or morals. It's basically the napoleonic code principle applied to philosophy. If you don't believe this you allow beliefs that support different truths that some can deny while others must be bound by it. This in a practical sense allows laws that don't apply to all citizens.
That is why I think it is an important concept. No man (or his opinion) is about reality, about truth or above moral law. Notice it mentions nothing of value or worth is where communism comes in
Hunter Carter
yeah because Japan was totally not in "Dark Ages" before opening up to the world right? I'm not an expert on their history but they had clan wars all over the territory, and if you mean the Bushido(?) then what can I say, it's oddly similar to the knight's code of conduct and so you can't say that's "moral". They're still a bunch of amoral peoples in that sense.
Noah Watson
I have already provided you multiple sources, including literature. You have provided nothing. You're just in full blown denial of the history you got smacked down with.
Go throw a tantrum you nigger.
Jose Martinez
Anyone else starting to realize that as capitalism fails more every day conservashits are referring to more and more things as "communist" that aren't?
>my religion is validated because of a series of random numbers on my favorite tranny forum
Colton Cruz
Haha no. Not at all. Communism is forced. Charity is not. By removing choice from the matter any charitable act is no longer charitable because it was forced. Without choice there is no love behind the action. Logic.
Grayson Young
>Communism is forced. Christians quite literally rounded up white Europeans by the thousands and gave them to Jews as slaves to get rich off of simply because they weren't Christian.
Jack Rodriguez
My religion is validated by other means that you can't comprehend. My religion reached out in the language of this board (digits) to try to communicate something to you. You ignored it.
Caleb Ward
Cringy.
Nicholas Ross
>Christianity tells us that we're all equal under Christ and that all souls are equal Hierarchy is the natural order and heaven is a hierarchy. The verse you're butchering is about everyone being capable of salvation through Jesus. You are a liar and should repent.
Owen Morris
Gee, look at the goalpost move. Was I involved in that? No? Exactly. You're not going to hold that over my head because it was not Christians that did that, it was an institution that claimed to represent Christianity that did that. Stick to the subject at hand.
Brody Hughes
>I have already provided you multiple sources, including literature. one gay book written by kikes , did you follow up on where I said you look ? no ? why ? because you're a stypid nigger, that's why
Jack Robinson
Those were Catholics. Catholicism is a Jewish psyop, as the Orthodox will tell you, and so is everything after that, with varying degrees of trying to escape from that psyop. Orthodoxy never cucked. I don't defend religion however, it is made by man and man is flawed, however Christ is a truth, and you can discern that multiple ways, but zero of them will allow you to understand it unless you have the right conditions in your heart. It's not necessary to accept Christ to live a good life though. God bleeds through in many ways that are not labelled Christian, Orthodoxy recognizes this. Through great art, great music, true and timeless literature, other truthful and good things. Most people I see arguing against "religion" are in full on strawman mode. They're not really arguing in good faith. Pardon the pun. Debate with sincerity and it might be fruitful for you, even if you never become "Christian".