58 days without Masturbation

I had a serious porn addiction and just went cold turkey. I'm coming up on 2 months now and I wanted to ask if it's really worth it? I know that there is a nofap forum and community but it all seems really cult-like. I just want to get over porn and masturbating with it.

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nobody fucking knows, that's why there's so many threads about it.

Nofap is stupid, the problem is porn not fapping. You should fap from once in 3 days to once in 2 weeks depending on your libido, and use mostly imagination.

see I thought that too but I went for a little while on noporn and just fapping without it and didn't notice much difference.

maybe I should just do full nofap, or lowfap.

Don't listen to this Jew. This is a common post in every nofap thread. Not a coincidence. Since people are getting away from porn, they're trying to play the middle and say "well yeah porns bad, but jacking off is okay!! Keep wanking goy!" Trust me dog, even if he isn't shilling and people are just that pathetic that they have to defend jacking off, you want to stop. I'm a little behind you and I've noticed quite a few benefits.
>more energy
>slightly more muscle mass
>less intrusive thoughts
>hornier
>more morning wood and regular erections without messing with it
>more confident
>more healthy looking skin
>healthy glow to face and arms
>more dominant in conversations
>I smell way better (my gf has confirmed it and said I smell amazing, like "fresh rain")
stop jacking off and find out how much time you've been wasting. You don't need to clean the pipes. That's horse shit. You'll get wet dreams if you need to cum that bad. I don't even miss jacking off. I only sort of miss it as a boredom relief and that's it. It's a massive waste of time. However I will note that any underlying mental issues will become more apparent. I have anxiety and have more nervous energy so my anxiety has been on the rise. I'm sure once I settle in to nofap as I go on it will get better, as the energy spikes subside within hours. Some of us jerk off to numb pain so it will come to the forefront for awhile. Personally I'll take dealing with it for awhile and stopping this stupid habit.

that's called a placebo, friendo, and isn't backed up by any data

>an effect of nofap talked about by others and now confirmed by me and a second party who has no say in the matter
Yeah sure thing bud. We can't let the goys stop jacking off I know. Nofap is anti Semitic after all!

>an effect of nofap talked about by others and now confirmed by me and a second party who has no say in the matter
yes. exactly. because bullshit martial artists using chi powers can fully convince their students they're being controlled by him, and church attendees can truly feel the holy spirit within them on sundays, and people in new age spirit groups can really feel the power of some healer's energy or whatever. your opinion on its own, even three opinions, is of no consequence.

This. "nofap" seems to be one of those life overhaul type of decisions. I've noticed it's often tied with other large changes in lifestyle like exercise, diet change, or simply trying to improve one's life and mental health in many small ways. There is no way to tell if that user is exaggerating, if it's placebo, if it's simply coincidence, if his environmental stressors happened to decrease around that time, etc.
I personally believe that porn is harmful to my mental health, but masturbation makes me feel better. I also personally believe that that is an opinion and not objectively a fact for everyone.

it feels so good to stop masturbating.

i'm on about a week now and my life has improved so much, my rleationship with my girl has gotten stronger and although our sex life has not returned to where it will be and should be, the one time we have had sex since then was absolutely incredible, and i was dead tired.

i've also stopped smoking pot in the same time.

personally i don't think i'll ever again masturbate in my life, it doesn't seem like something a healthy adult should be doing, ever.

i'd like to add that there is literally no need to ever masturbate in today's world.

if you don't have a steady girlfriend, there are girls that you can pick up or find a gf, and if all else fails, there are cheap hookers that you can quick visit for 60 dollars. that's not an outrageous sum for something like a once a week sexual encounter with a woman.

really no need to ever masturbate.

I literally fapped 5 times in the last 24 hours. Maybe even 7. How do I stop this shit? It is like an addiction but I'm not sure if it is having a bad effect on me or not.

>muh chi
>muh it's just a fad
God forbid people have any spirituality about them. Look at who denies it, a materialist who sees no value in the metaphysical (aka totally unaware of his own spirituality) and a guy who thinks something making you feel good is what makes something good.
>injecting heroin feels good
>therefore it must BE good!
Just "For him", though. Masturbation makes everyone feel good numbnuts. It's stimulating your penis to give your brain feel good chemicals.

It definitely is. Personally I just stopped. I quit cold turkey because I was tired of Wasting my life. Gradually ease off it if you can't do that. Find some hobbies. Have things to do like a job.

I said porn is harmful to my mental health, but masturbation makes me feel better, retard. As in masturbation makes my mental health better.
I believe in the brain. There's a lot of good research on the benefits of masturbation, user.

Honestly I think the problem is I live in a small ass town with nothing to do. There isn't even nature here just farmland everywhere. I'm desperately trying to get out of this place to move somewhere with more shit in it.

that won't help. if you're a shut-in in a small town, you'll be a shut-in in a big city.

Yeah and theres a lot of good research on any topic you could think of for the most part. You aren't thinking big picture. You aren't seeing the forest for the trees. Mastubation is a numbing agent, a way to make you lose your manly vitality in exchange for some short pleasure. It's a vice like weed and booze. I'm not saying no one can have vices, but acting like playing with your dick is good for you is just stupid to me. It's a waste of time and I'd bet my bottom dollar the issues with male fertility are in part caused by oversaturation of porn, among other factors. You can have your cigarettes, just don't act like it's good for you.

Have you ever lived in a small town? There is literally no meetup groups here or dating scene. Also it isn't like I live in a small town surrounded by mountains and wilderness or something.

>There's a lot of good research on the benefits of masturbation
No there isn't

lol, in your opinion 60 dollars is not much?

it's 240 a month for 4 sexual encounters.

if you don't have a girlfriend, no, that's not a lot.

of course it's a lot, i mean, but it's a cost of living. jerking off is a dead end, and until you get a girlfriend this is the way to go.

depends where you live, too. i'm in the united states

what does a dinner date cost with your girlfriend? about 50, 60 bucks. how often do you do that? maybe once a week, for many people?

what's a take out meal cost, 20 bucks with delivery?

these are cost of living sums

I've been on nofap since 2015 with 1 relapse ~1 year ago . Nofap got me, a beautiful girlfriend and helped me land my dream job. But I'm not important. Haven't YOU noticed the changes? Listen to YOURSELF.

There is. Look it up. It does no harm. Nofap is stupid. (Bad) Porn do mess you up.

It is totally worth , don't relapse , trust me , I've reached 60 and relapsed and can't manage to get back on track, the increase in energy , confidence , memory and so on , you will realize it , we are addicts , you can wank for a few days without porn , but afterwards you will slowly go back to it, resist the temptation.

I think that there should be a definite reset period. Stop porn and stop masturbation. After some time start masturbating but without porn. Try (it is perfectly normal if you fail because you saw a tight ass outside) masturbating only on for ex. Sundays. Edging is a good additive. No fap does make you hornier and more energetic to attract the female but with a serious trade off.
You are going to be focusing so much on one thing that at the end is pretty useless.

Good luck!

Do you want to know the real benefit of nofap and no porn? It lowers your standards for looks in mates. It could also lead to better sex because when you Jack off a ton, you are rushing to the release. You are training yourself to jizz. You dont really do that in sex, where you want to go long enough to make her cum.

Both of these are going to make you happier. You'll date more because your standards are lower, that will build your self esteem. You'll go longer in sex and get another ego boost.

All this shit about building bigger muscles, who knows if that crap is true. But going longer during sex because you havent trained yourself to cum super fast? That's fucking common sense.

When ever I do nofap I start getting gay thoughts.
I have to fap every day to keep the gay away