Femanons what do you really look for in a guy?

>inb4 just be yourself bro
Please list the kind of things you look for in a guy which are most important to you. Don't dream up the perfect man because nobody is perfect no matter how we try; I just want to know what I can work on.
I want to be the guy who gets a smile back when I make eye contact with a stranger, the guy who can approach random people without them getting creeped out; I want to be the guy who can go to a club and have a girl dance with me.
Who is this person and what are his attributes?
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Not a guy who asks others what he is supposed to be to please them would be a start.

The things you're asking about are all first impressions, so
>impeccable hygiene
>freshly groomed
>not fat
>healthy complexion
>dressed appropriately for his age and the setting
>properly fitting clothes
>nice shoes and tasteful accessories
>good posture
>relaxed body language
>clear and confident speaking voice
>able to read my body language and subtext to understand whether I want to keep talking to him

this is good.

Honestly, for me, this isn't hard to follow and it's seemingly something I enjoy doing to compete. But you'll always get whiners that say "WHY CAN'T YOU JUST WANT ME FOR WHO I AM BECAUSE I HAVE LOW STANDARDS AND I DON'T PERCEIVE HAVING UNIQUE QUALITIES"

Honestly it bothers me how pathetic some people can be

Let me ask a question. Femanons, when are you willing to settle when a guy doesn’t meet your criteria?

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Don’t be so desperate dumbass. Femanons aren’t normal girls or they wouldn’t use this site. Just clean your shit up and get fit and go out more

Ok so you're just one person but I'll roll with what you've listed.
Everything you wrote is what I try my best to do although this is where I struggle
>able to read my body language and subtext to understand whether I want to keep talking to him
I can tell if people are turning away from me, their feet are unconsciously facing away, they bring other people into your conversation, give short answers like an interrogation or just generally give off the vibe that they don't want to be talking to you. Maybe I'm just a repulsive person but that's exactly how every stranger reacts, no matter whether I'm trying my damnedest to be confident and friendly.
Where do most guys go wrong?

This guy is not OP
Dude I'm the biggest guy in my gym.
Also any female on here is more likely to understand the mindset of someone like me.

Never. You know how many guys throw themselves at women and not vice-versa? One guy doesn’t make the cut? There’s four waiting in line.

Most guys assume we want to talk to them. If I'm out with my friend on her birthday, do you think I want to talk to you or focus on the birthday and making sure she has a good time? If I'm in line for food, do you think I want to talk to you or make sure I get back to work before my break is over? I know exactly why you're trying to talk to me but that doesn't mean I'm looking to meet guys in that moment. I'm probably not. It's nothing personal.

good looks
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okay so women are unaproachable

Bigger then me, ideally with some definition. Dark eyes. Likes the mystery in life ( ufos,exploration that kinda thing) doesn’t yell even when he’s mad. Strong communication skills. Likes to touch. Likes horror films.

Not the other femanon, but people/women are generally more open in extracurricular activities. You go to the gym, why not connect with women there? If you're a muscly guy, Jow Forums women will probably be interested. Or join a group of some sort, take a class, or volunteer somewhere and talk to girls on your team.

Like said approaching someone while they're getting a coffee can be jarring.

Chad.

Well if you're wearing red eyeshadow i'm going to try to talk to you, idc who you're with. you wore that shit for me personally IMO
>likes to touch
TFW no soft small blue eyed normie girl who likes to touch, horror movies, and ufos :(

My criteria is fairly lax and plentiful in physical equivalents, but I sometimes make exceptions. It's not a hard bar to meet, but I still am rejecting a considerable amount. If it's a complete mismatch then they were never a consideration.

>you wore that shit for me personally IMO
You're not serious right?

wtf does 'physical equivalents' mean? like, he's tall with big shoulders and chest and good posture? am I missing anything? maybe skin tone or eye color?

Women are simple. They want:

1. good face and height
2. perceived social status
3. quality dicking
4. money

>good posture
>>relaxed body language

women, folks

This poster is not a woman if that wasn’t obvious enough.
>inb4 some lame samefag attempt to save face for some reason

>I know exactly why you're trying to talk to me but that doesn't mean I'm looking to meet guys in that moment. I'm probably not. It's nothing personal.

have you considered that you aren't approachable most of the time?

Yes, physically equivalent in features. You understood.

Depends, is it a hard criteria? My hard standards are shorter than me, not muscular, clean, not a drug addict or alcoholic, and likes me. Anything above that is preference and I'll settle on those. Although my preference for same race or mixed same race is strong.
I think most women (like many men) have base criteria that are pretty bare bones.

coolio. Yes I feel the same way, she has to be attractive physically(compatible body), verbally(ability to keep my interest with words), and also non-verbally ( that intuitive sense that tells you how to have flirty playful talk with someone ) It seems i'm not the only one left on earth with a brain and body. ;) see you never or in 10 years BB

Not that user, but the two aren't opposed. This could be a misunderstanding if English isn't your first language.
Good posture means not slouching, head up, no lumbar lordosis. How you physically hold your body with your muscles.
Relaxed body language doesn't mean a relaxed, slouched body position. It means that you look comfortable, not anxious, you look open rather than withdrawn. I assume that's the sort of thing the original user was talking about. Hope that helps to explain the difference

> tasteful accessories

Any good tips on this? Recently I started to wear a watch and a friend of mine compliment me on it, but told me that I need to wear something on the other hand. But I'm totally lost as to what that can be

dont even waste your time
when i first read his comment i undersrtood exactly wht you meant, but upon further review i realize how peoplecould be confused. "Good" posture implies relaxed shit....

most men slouch or hunch in a relaxed position.

did you watch the video?

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>see you never or in 10 years BB
【・_・?】

that's what Stacy said to me, so i'm just returning the favor... srsly tho call me, we could be happy together.

Good looks doesn't stop you from being a NEET, or having social anxiety.

so...a scorpio?

my ex described me kinda like that

There's more to body language than posture.

You don't need to wear something else. Continuing to pile shit on is the opposite of tasteful.

Fair.

Not sure what you mean by that. Most of the time I'm probably preoccupied and if I'm not approachable that's for the best. When I am open to socializing, guys seem to have no trouble coming over to talk. My point is that if you get unlucky with timing and talk to me in the first situation it's nothing personal if I don't play along.

I’m a cancer-Leo cusp, what does that say about me?

Who? Call you?
Who are you?

lol my too and i'm the one saying i likr pink/red eye shadow :3
fax, fair

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Don't be a cunt, call the guy.

i wish am he, text me 4016600928.

How am I going to call someone I don't know?
no

>how am i going to call/text someone i don't know

easy,we do it all the time, sever heard of Instagram?

Be tall, have great genetics, be assertive and dominant.
Women DGAF about intelligence or humor or that other meme shit they talk about.

>being tall with good genes but not having a good sense of humour

why even live?

I don't do instagram.

because people will laugh at your jokes anyways?

that you're ignorant bcs there's no such thing as cusps.

> you’re ignorant
> debating the logistics of fucking Star signs

Nice b8

Well I don't want a guy who sees a list and tries to change himself to appeal to women. I'll look for a guy who naturally appeals to me, and I'll describe the guy I already met.

>kind and sweet
>intelligent and can talk about a variety of topics
>has at least one genuine interest and passion in life, he has two one which was the same as me
>has goals and aspirations
>has lived in other countries
>speaks more than one language
>does moderate exercise, fit and healthy
>funny and enjoys joking around
>likes to cuddle and be cute
>thinking about him now makes me smile to myself
>always there to help, support, or comfort me
>comes to me when he needs that too
>physically he is exactly my type, has nice dark hair, dark eyes, tan, around my height, dresses comfortably
>even his name is adorable and hot

I probably missed a lot.

You want a guy shorter than you or you only want one taller? I'm lost.

Oh right

>no smoking or drugs
>no adult entertainment
>doesn't yell or get destructive when angry
>doesn't play emotional games
>compliments me and takes compliments in return
>thinks of me as his ideal type

I meet a lot of these. Finding the right person is hard regardless.

I did the whole “lower my standards” thing and it’s worked out. Her face isn’t nearly as good as model you want and she’s a good few pounds heavier, but she sucks cock and makes me a good omelette.

This thread is about women's standards for men, not the other way around. But good on you, user.

Pro tip. Don't ask a fish how to catch other fish guys. Don't follow anything a women says.

Sounds like a real catch. What do you offer in return? Are you just hot or do you also speak multiple languages, a Rhodes scholar, or born to wealth? Just curious

Simple.
>Not fat (I don’t mind a little belly, but don’t be a fucking lard, actually do some exercise or sports or workout or at least go out for a fucking run)
>Hygiene ( groom, brush your teeth, wash your fucking face and take care of yourself man)
>know how to dress ( everyone has a different style, identity what goes good with your personality, make sure your size of clothes fits you, no extra small, no super sized)
>Be honest with what you want ( you want a friendship, fine, want to flirt and eventually get to see if a relationship could happen, great, you just want a ONS, believe me I don’t mind, but god damn don’t pretend
> Have confidence ( I don’t need a guy who downs himself, who just puts me on a pedestal, Show some fucking shame)
> know how to make fun of yourself, be funny ( not a fucking clown but actually be entertaining, believe me, if you make me laugh and feed me I’m a happy and rewarding girlfriend)
Be interested in me (I’m passed wasting my time, let’s be clear, you don’t like something let’s talk, dot know how to read me, ask, want some space? Good, let’s settle ground rules for you and me)
That’s all I can think of at this moment

Welp looks like I got my shit backwards but thanks pal.

Every guy watches porn. Every guy gets angry one in a while.

The guys who don’t are the actual weirdos you want nothing to do with.

Yikes

I'm sure you are "just curious" and don't have a bitter agenda at play here ;)

Honey.. adult entertainment isn't porn. It's red light district establishments.

And anger doesn't mean yelling and breaking things like the average meathead. If you can't control your anger you deserve no one in your life.

Have some confidence. No bitter agenda, it just sounds like he put a lot of work into himself and I am wondering what type of woman it takes to get a guy like that or visa versa. After all, if I know the type of woman he was able to get, I have the blueprint right?

Wait what does this mean?

Anyway yes I actually am his literal soulmate in terms of what I wrote, we have a lot in common, if anything I have more perks than him as a partner.

But you know checking off a list isn't how you end up with someone, there should be chemistry and timing and communication.

Sorry I am not sure what you don't understand. All I am asking is for you to describe yourself and your achievements the way you did with his so I know what type of girl all of that work would potentially attract. Learning another language, traveling the world, etc is a lot of work so just wondering what you've done in turn

I can only get sexually aroused by short men.
So it's a requirement.

Like I said we don't do these things to attract the opposite sex, we do it because it genuinely interests us and we like each other because we can relate and understand each other. This isn't work we did, this is our passion and our lives.

I'm not into your angle of doing shit to win someone over so I'm not into this discussion. Be an individual. You'll only get the equivolent of what you are, and you can't change that, you can't fake that. I've seen guys try and fail many times. I even said this is my first post, stop reading lists and trying to mimic them.

>'m not into your angle of doing shit to win someone over
So your advice to me is to just "be yourself"?

>Just be yourself

>women are attracted to you in the first 5 minutes before they know who you are.

>OKcupid data and studies show 80% of men are considered ugly/do not receive replies.

>Tinder shows women will respond flirtily and postivively to men who admit to raping children, if the man looks exceptionally attractive.

Yeah but we live in a society. A guy who talks angrily and belittles others is quite displeasing and will run others off.

Romantic relationships are basically friendships with a lot of compatibility things thrown in. Look for a woman that you share interests with that wants a similar lifestyle to what you want.

they get too excited and dont know when to stop.

Tall

My boyfriend is probably all I've eve wanted in a guy in every way, so I'm just going to describe him because I'm a cheesy fag.

Physically
>a smile that would make anyone fall in love with him
>glasses, full and beautiful hair, brown eyes
>slight unevenness on his face (nose, eyes, mouth), godlike jaw, beautiful teeth
>pale, very tall, broad shoulders, average weight
>a little clumsy, moves in a funny way
>kind voice

Personality wise
>genuine, embraces his weirdness
>intelligent, witty, knowledgeable
>autistically enthusiastic about his interests
>very outspoken, forward
>sweet, romantic, kind-hearted
>kind of arrogant, loves banter
>treats me like a peer, isn't a doormat or an asshole
>honest, loyal
>wants a family and kids, likes dogs
>cuddly as fuck, a little childish at times
>great in bed
>never yells
>loves me unconditionally

>said approaching someone while they're getting a coffee can be jarring.
I notice that women's criteria of when and where it is ok to be hit on is constantly changing, should it be safe to assume that anywhere is possible its just the timing and the mood the woman is in?

It's really just if you're attractive or not

Why does every thread on Jow Forums get shit on by incels these days? Why can't they stay on their containment board? Or even better get off Jow Forums? They've been a cancer on this site ever since they got kicked off reddit.

>that screenshot
it's so exhausting, it's all so fucking exhausting

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Women can teach you what bait to use, but the pulling is your job.

good to know.

Women: he must be atleast 6'2" tall, good looking, prominent jaw, wear XYZ, physically fit but not too fit,perfect skin, perfectly straight spine, have atleast a baritone voice type, willing to jump through dozens of hoops just to please you, be a mind reader, well read, well travelled, expert in social interactions, never be sad, literal court jester

Men: don't be fat and be nice

Fuck off back to r/incels.

We're talking about ideals, not minimum standards.

Delicious femoid turned from roastie to toastie.

Hm. I see.

This but on reverse, money and a good dick to ride are first priorities

>OP asks for bare minimum standards
>femanons reply with ideal men
The incels were right bros. Women truly only date 20% of men.

Independence is big if you ask me.

Those are not women replying, those are incels raging about what they think women want.

>Yfw 3/11