I like having a gf, I like having multiple gfs. Having multiple gf's means I get to spend time with my gfs, and have a more gf involved life, without the monotony of "hey what did you do today?" or any of that awkward interlude between seeing eachother. I get to spend pretty much every day with my different gfs doing fun stuff, if I only had one gf, I'd only see her like once or twice a week.
Why is this a bad thing? One of my friends, who happens to be female, said it's dishonest and bordering on psychopathic that I have three or sometimes four women on at once. I don't understand, my gfs are having a good time and so am I, so wheres the issue here? I'm young and they are too, no one in the 18-25 age bracket is looking for anything long term or serious.
Dishonesty is where the problem lies. If they are all okay with this arrangement then there is nothing wrong with it. Odds are they aren’t aware though, which is where the problem lies.
Dominic Foster
/thread
Owen Gonzalez
All women are psychopathic whores who will cheat on you without remorse but expect you to stay exclusive with them. Dont forget to ruin their life if they ever break up with you; start to build up a library of info/secrets/access to their finances etc you can use against them NOW, not later, you dont want to be caught out if they unexpectedly break it off with you, you need to prepare.
They're playing the game with you, so you need to do the same with them.
This, but in my experience emotional damage is the best. Keeping a mental note of her insecurities then telling (and evidencing) that her insecure worries are accurate/well placed when she breaks up with you is the best way to cause lasting damage.
e.g. yes your feet are disgusting and the way X responded to them Y time proves this, you should cover them up in future, have a nice life
Etc
Joseph Jackson
Because you're dishonest: it you tell someone you're exclusive but you're not, you're an asshole. If everyone is aware of the situation, there's nothing necessarily bad about it.
Mason Watson
Why does it matter if they know? Does a cocaine high feel worse when you remember all those people who were killed by cartels in its production?
Hmm, I hadn't thought about being vindictive like this, how exactly does this benefit my life? But maybe I will start to document things like you describe.
Henry Sullivan
You asked what is “bad” about the situation. It is considered “bad” to manipulate people to get what you want, especially if it can hurt them. If they do not know, they are being lied to because you know what would happen if they did know - the end of the arrangement. That means you also know THEY would see it as wrong, which is why it is bad.
Listen, me and my gf bring other girls into our relationship regularly. The difference is we are honest about it because we don’t want to cause pain or suffering to the other party. If you don’t understand this it’s likely because you are a psychopath, narcissist, or lack empathy. Maybe all of the above. The ironic part is your dark triad traits are likely part of why you have success with women to begin with. Doesn’t mean you should use your gifts to hurt others, though. Make no mistake, they will be hurt if they find out.
Brandon Russell
It's not cheating unless you lie to them and tell each one she's your one and only. Then it is
Nathan Walker
Kek, let's see how that mindset treats you in the future
Ian Walker
this is how i know you're a psychopath >hurr durr who even currs about people's feelings
Jeremiah Russell
This is why Jow Forums is such a shit place for actual advice. Too many larpers
Ian Martinez
Having multiple partners and non monogamy is fine. Cheating is not because you’re lying to the person and one of the fundamental bases in a relationship is trust. Without trust there essentially is no relationship.
It’s fine if you wanna fuck multiple people but let your girlfriend know beforehand. Otherwise you’re negligent and deceiving her and she’ll carry the trauma from being lied to into her future relationships because of your shitty actions.
Jason Russell
this
this place if for guys who don't talk to women and have autism. the blind leading the blind lol.
Dylan Edwards
OP, do you know what psychopathy means? I"m not sure you do. Reading your posts here, I'm almost positive that you are psychopathic to some degree. Look into it. I'm not saying this to be insulting, the existence of psychopaths is a simple fact, like having autism or tourettes, it just is. But you should be aware of it, and be aware of the fact that your genuine inability to relate to other people's feelings does nothing to change the fact that there will almost certainly be negative consequences for unchecked psychopathic behavior. It's quite literally in our biology to seek out and snuff this behavior.
Aiden Edwards
OP, if you're allowed to date multiple women, are those same women allowed to date multiple men besides you?
Chase Peterson
cultivating vindictiveness will enable you to do what you're already doing and more, much more, without ever feeling like you aren't in the right for doing it because after all they deserve it for doing to you. it's basically the irl get out of jail free card. the slight against you can be real or imagined, whatever, doesn't matter all that much, your mind will fill in the blanks as needed. they deserve it. that's the bottom line. the benefit is it means nobody ever gets away with fucking with you, which is what most people are out to do anyway, so in the end you're really only protecting yourself.
Owen Ramirez
I don't understand how it's manipulation? And is it really lying? Do people in "normal" relationships say "btw I'm not cheating on you" every time they meet up?
What's that supposed to mean?
We've already established that the only way it can effect their feelings is if they find out about it?
So you can't trust someone unless you're in a monogamous relationship with them? You don't trust anyone then.
What kind of negative consequences will there be?
I'm not sure I understand the relevance of this question to the discussion at hand.
They way you respond to this makes it sound like I'm in the wrong for "cheating" on my gfs when I think the posts in this thread are indicating that isn't really true.
>They way you respond to this makes it sound like I'm in the wrong for "cheating" on my gfs when I think the posts in this thread are indicating that isn't really true. and there ya go. see? good job. i mean you're still a little weak here with this part: >We've already established that the only way it can effect their feelings is if they find out about it? but otherwise you seem to be getting the hang of it already.
Hudson Brown
You’re being deliberately obtuse. You are basically stating right and wrong only apply if nobody else finds out about a transgression. It is only wrong if they find out and are bothered. You know they will be otherwise you’d just tell them.
By your logic you can justify almost anything if another person doesn’t find out about it. Robbing someone with a mental handicap? Raping a woman who is in a coma? How about touching a child who is too young to understand? These are extreme examples sure, but your thought process opens the door for these questions. Again, find women who are open to this situation and your conscience can be clear. Who am I kidding though, your mental gymnastics are the hallmark of a psychopath/narcissist as is your lack of self-awareness.
Nathaniel Rodriguez
You are so fucked up in the head, you are the reason men have a bad reputation.
Ryder Hill
>If everyone is aware of the situation, there's nothing necessarily bad about it.
it can still be bad. Depends on how they interact. Stuf like manipulation, pitting partners against each other, having a favorite and treating the others not as well, etc can be toxic.
Tyler Carter
>women When women cheat, she let someone else inside her body, leaving his semen inside her. She let someone inside her both physically and mentally.
>men When men cheat you had another woman on his dick, that's it. Not that different to a woman sitting on his toes and some went in.
The fact is both are wrong if it's behind someone's back since it's a case of trust being destroyed, but when women cheat it's worse, no matter how you try to reshape the argument.
Don't fucking cheat, man or woman.
Samuel Garcia
Empathy, thats why. Try to imagine how a girl feels when she sees or hears the guy who made her feel so special and important dicking another girl. It's the ultimate betrayal. I imagine (never happened to me yet) it's like loosing a cherished pet before its time was due. That person who made you feel so good instantaneously turned into a object of acute pain.
Usually those who ask why cheating is bad have never been cheated on before
Are fedora neckbeards even a thing anymore? I rarely seem them nor memes about them anymore.
Hudson Green
>So you can't trust someone unless you're in a monogamous relationship with them? You don't trust anyone then.
You might wanna refer back to the post that you’re replying to where I literally did not say that, and I even said that it was ok to be polyamorous or have multiple partners if your partner knows that. I’m saying trust is an essential part of a relationship and by cheating you’re violating that trust.
David Murphy
this is one thing i've really realized having a number of women as good friends and having done a bunch of dating. the biggest boon for me i've had in regards to women is just not being some fucked up weirdo. its a weirdly comforting realization when you get it.
Robert Baker
I'm having an affair right now And let me tell you that dishonesty is definitely the root problem because with out a few half lies and kinda true stories I wouldn't be having the greatest sex of my life Once the lies run out then I'm buggered matey
Justin Barnes
>so they told me why they don't like it >but I just basically ignored that You do strike me as a pathological liar in that light
Nathan Bell
None of those are fedoras though.
Bunch of Trilby-fags.
Liam Brooks
Ah-hah-- you're the guy who was asking how to get (You)s. Yes, this would do it. Quite aptly. Why were you asking us? You're a veritable expert here.
Logan Bennett
Thread should've ended here. Anythign else is mental dymnastics.
Parker Williams
I suppose I did use a bunch of big words, didn't I? Let me try this again with easier english:
In your original post, you said you didn't understand why it's considered bad to be in multiple relationships with multiple women. So what I want to know is if you are ok with the multiple women that you are dating to have other men besides you that they are also dating.
I want to know if you are alright with them fucking around with other men at the same time as fucking with you.
I think this is the part where I lost you last time, so allow me to connect the dots for you and show you the the relevance. I want to know if you are a hypocrite for having multiple partners, but don't like them to have multiple partners as well.
Did you follow? Do you need me to spoon feed this to you more?
>Does a cocaine high feel worse when you remember all those people who were killed by cartels in its production? That's not even remotely equivalent
Adam Roberts
Aaaaaaand OP is silent....
Jonathan Young
Pretty much this. Believe it or not, women will be 95% okay with the things you do as long as you're honest with them.
Kevin Bennett
>Does a cocaine high feel worse when you remember all those people who were killed by cartels in its production?
are you retarded?
Julian White
It’s because it was a bait thread. OP didn’t play it right though and got so BTFO it’s hard to counter
Eli White
Your extreme examples don't apply to things like this. You aren't screwing someone over by being emotionally attached to other people.
Sorry you feel that way.
Is a cake less delicious if you eat it, decide it's tasty, then find out the guy who baked it is a rapist? Didn't think so.
I don't see how it violates trust, it doesn't influence the interaction you have with them at all other than maybe your availability.
Why do I need to hold myself to the same standards of my partners? Does that mean if you're rich and successful you can't marry a girl you love because her job isn't good enough? That's incredibly vain and pathetic.
Sorry for not monitoring this thread every millisecond you fucking incel.
Is this image apart of a set? I'd really like source.
Ryan James
>okay with put up with
Wyatt Gomez
>You aren't screwing someone over by being emotionally attached to other people Of course not - unless you are deceitful about the nature of your relationship, in which case you are. All you need to ask is if they found out about the other girls, would it bother them? There’s your answer.
Everyone in the thread has told you that your logic is flawed and it mirrors psychopathy so maybe consider that you are wrong and either stop doing what you are doing OR continue to do it, but stop seeking validation that what you are doing is right. It isn’t.
Andrew Nguyen
Why are you mentally inept? >no one is looking for actual relationships God it really is sad to see what porn has done to so many young dude's minds.
Isaiah Bailey
>I don't see how it violates trust
Do you think someone would trust you if they found out you were lying about being exclusive and you were seeing people without telling them? It absolutely influences your interaction with them. Say you had a great day because of someone you slept with earlier, you would either lie about it or omit the information. Both of those are deceiving your partner.
This is why I keep bringing up non-monogamous relationships because you seem like you might be conflating the two. If you both agree that you can see people on the side then it’s ok.
Logan Lopez
It's not ethical non-monogamy without the ethics of being honest and getting consent from everyone.
Josiah Evans
Heterosexual relationships are based on the exchange of a man's social and financial capital for the woman's sex and fertility.
A woman cheating is bad because she thereby fails to uphold her end of the bargain : giving the man exclusive access to her pussy.
A man cheating is bad because he is spending his capital on another woman. In other words women are upset because you are spending "her" money on other women.
Jeremiah Garcia
Consent.
You're just being a coward. If there wasn't any part of you doubting whether or not it was a bad thing you wouldn't make this thread in the first place. If it wasn't a big deal you would just tell them right? No? Then you're being manipulative.
>I'm young and they are too, no one in the 18-25 age bracket is looking for anything long term or serious.
I'm 25, I've known and been with the same girl for 10 years. Don't assume fuckboy (and that is an accurate title for you).
Aiden Perez
If they found out your other partners would they be upset?
Oliver Ramirez
Lets play spot the sociopath
Jack Nguyen
if you aren't married by now, you should know that in 1-3 years you're going to have a breakup and then you'll be resentful that you didn't fuck around a lot when you were younger. just a heads up
Aiden Harris
Save your breath (or whatever the typing equivalent of that is). OP is a legit psychopath and there is no amount of logic or reason that can convince him to do anything good or morally correct. His brain is literally unable to comprehend those things.
Robert Green
There are 5 distinct reasons.
First, some women are looking to capture a guy. You get a kid, then the money dries up, and so does the harem.
Second, how many masters can you have? One is plenty.
Third, incidence rates of sexually transmitted diseases show the higher your numbers, the more likley it is to get infected. E.G. If 5% of african people in the US have aids, you sleep with 20 of them, you get aids, statistically speaking.
Fourth, after awhile, the endorphin high goes away and you need to feel deep connectedness.
Fifth and finally, no common man has ever been successful in building themselves a harem. It takes enunichs and guards and even then.
Connor Reed
Because it is.
Adrian Scott
I am not sure why I'm even attempting to play along here but here's why cheating is bad. If you are cheating and get found out then you run the chance of that relationship ending. So, for a psychopath, cheating is bad because the psychopath could lose a gf he likes having sex with.
Sebastian Morgan
Well, all the threads for actual advice are strictly related to guys who can't get girls, in which cases the problems are pretty much either desperation, being a dick, or codependent tendencies.
