Do people hate incels because deep down they know incels are right?

>make profile wih real photos, maybe 1 to 4 matchs per month
>make profile with really hot pics and convincing bio
>non stop likes

this was arround 2017, you are full of shit. You know why? most of the women who liked tha fake profile were arround 5 to 6 in general, 9s and 10 were rare.

Swiping right equals having sex? This is exactly the kind of desperate mental gymnastics incels jump through.

You're clearly uninformed on the matter

He's a classified retard just leave him alone, no one responds to him anymore.

You make no sense

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Incel used to mean "Involuntary Celibate" and it came from Reddit
Cue the attack on Toronto and now the fucking media just had to twist the fucking word and now it applies to all men who never had sex in their lives.
Incel needs to get fucking filtered like soi

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Wrong. Incel means the tiny subset of virgin men who identify as incels. This means belonging to an incel online community and raging all day long on forums how they hate women and rape should be legal.

That's totally incorrect tho?

That's the literal definition of an incel.

No that's what retards akin to you have made it out to be.
If you want to be having sex but you don't you're an incel. PERIOD.
No amount of mental gymnastics and coping will change that fact, it's not something you identify as, you either are an incel or you're not.
Otherwise you're just an incel in denial

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Incels are kinda right about some things but they're drastically overestimating the number of chads.

99% of guys fall pretty close to the average range in looks.

Yes if you're the tiny subset of guys who look like a male model then you can get alot of sex very easily, but whining about that is like whining that you weren't born into a super rich family.

Nobody hates incels, incels hate themselves. Everyone else doesn't give a fuck.

By that definition incels do not exist. If you want sex, then you go out and get it. It is literally impossible to not get sex if you actually want it.

It being possible to doesn't make it nonexistant.
You can call some people illiterate but they can go and learn, does that mean illiterate people don't exist?
Your arguments are laughable

They don't call themselves involuntarily illiterate and rage on the internet about how it's not fair Chad was born knowing how to read.

>If you want sex, then you go out and get it.

Dude wants people to commit rape.

Incels are repellant to women. That's the Involuntarily celibate part.

I've provided statistics and studies to support those claims. You have nothing, sir.

Incels repel women because they are shitty people. If you stopped being so angry and entitled and violent you could get women. But you choose not to.

This might be the stupidest reply on Jow Forums today. Some niggers call themselves niggers, some niggers commit crime, do all niggers call themselves niggers and commit crime?

>incel lying again
You've provided 0 proofs.

You can't accuse incels of biased, prejudiced preconceptions of woman whilst stereotyping all incels. There's a variety of reasons why men are incels. There might have terrible genetics or they're socially inept. Doesn't mean they're all raging psychopaths.

I desperately want to have sex but I've never had it. Even tried with a hooker but my anxiety made me unable to stay hard.

Some of us are loser incels without the whole being a part of "incel communities" online

Pop a viagra and go to a hooker again.

True. With me it's my physical deformity. I'm so insecure and self-conscious that if by some quirk of fate a girl could look past it, my social anxiety would turn her off.

I noticed this too, it's fucking unsettling. I think there's something to this onions feminization phenomenon.

Lol mid 20s is a bit early for viagra. Also I got hard before, just when the condom came on, all soft. It's just hard to forget that trainwreck of an experience, if she didn't live on the other side of the planet I would have had to kill myself due to the shame. I just can't imagine how many hookers I have to get through before I will ever have the nerves to be with a normal girl

Sex feels more like having to do a big performance than something that's relaxing and pleasureable

It's 80% of girls have sex with 20% of guys

Women literally date guys who beat the shit out of them. I don't think personality gets in the way much

What physical deformity? It's your mentality that's keeping you away from girls, not your looks.

No adult age is too early for viagra. You had first timer nerves, it happens. Use viagra to help you get started until you won't need it anymore after you get the hang of it.

No, it's because incels are the weakest men on the planet. Which is really saying something, because men are so unknowingly emotionally driven that they're basically just giant kids with jobs.

Why do you think those guys get girls but not you?

looks

They're have good bone structure

Eh I might consider it, but it would have to be somewhere abroad, my doctor probably wouldn't give it to me and it would be too embarrassing to even ask for

I'm just worried that my anxiety will kick in once I try without it for the first time, when it has become kind of a crutch. Also does it keep me hard even if I get nervous? I've heard that you still need to be horny

Just remember who builds society sweaty

You literally wont pass yor genetics, you and the ones like you are naturally wrong and wont survive more than this generation

It has nothing to do with rightness. People don't like being told that they aren't ReAlLy themselves, they're just slaves in denial to (biology/patriarchy/media/religion). It's patronizing. You must be beyond autistic to not understand this.

I have a curved spine and pigeon chest. Why would any girl remotely attractive be with me when she could pick any normal guy?

Why wouldn't a doctor give it to you? It's his job. If you are too afraid then just go to Bangkok and get it from a pharmacy over the counter.

Whoever it is, certainly not incels

Not advice.

Funny how them pussy-enabled fucks cry a river about slut-shaming then smug about a guy's sexual history. The hypocripsy is real

Well, I don't hate incels, but I do dislike the incel identity/movement. Not because incels are not having sex but because they're so wrong about so many things, fixating on and validating each other in all those things, and it's probably a big part of WHY they're not having sex, if they want to. And people being depressed and suicidal is always sad.

So no, it's exactly the opposite.

>Do people hate incels because deep down they know incels are right?
I don't hate them, but I do my damndest not to think about them! And that's because that very sickly thought loop they fall into is just too close to home. Most people do it at some point, about something, and it's usually related to mating opportunities. And once you get past it you never want to think about it again.

Thank god y'all weren't around when I was a troubled young man, or I might have gotten caught up in your various solipsism-esque masochism-as-entertainments instead of working hard to grow as a person.

Some of us have good reason for being incel.

Right about what? Either explain what you mean or this is a troll thread.

No you don't. You might have a good reason not to have sex (i.e., no one will let you do it for reasons beyond your control, like some sort of disease that gives you oozing blisters all over), which justifies seeking out the support of others in painful situations.

But once you get to that point, you should realize that comparing yourself to the chads is no more logical than comparing yourself to any of the countless enslaved tribes whose male children were all castrated throughout history.

That said, I don't know what I would do if I was in such a situation. And it's not worth giving too much thought to, because I'd recon the VAST majority of y'all are just gross people who haven't swallowed the pill the that banging other gross people is infinitely better than being alone.

>whiny
Everyone having a shitty life vents one way or another but if you mean dumping problems on people that don't want to hear it then you're right about that

>self-victimizing
Haha, not everyone plays the victim user. I can't speak for every guy out there but I'm pretty sure some of these guys really had it that bad and don't know how to deal with their problems. It's easy for you or anyone not having self esteem problems because you're not them.

>homos
You lost me here, but I guess it depends. Incels pointing out the men women prefer isn't necessarily being homosexual. They're right, these are the kind of men women would prefer over insecure beta men.

t. Faggot journo
No you fuckheads changed and twisted the definition
Incels are involuntary celibate
Pick up a dictionary

See
That's the reason I can't get a gf

I heard you can get a brace to improve the pigeon chest condition, I don't know if it works though. I have a similar problem. My breastbone curves inward a bit but not too much to the point it looks like a huge gaping hole. Imagine how I feel knowing that although it seems I'm good enough everywhere else I have these detailed issues I'm sure some women wouldn't overlook if they wanted children.

What they say doesn't matter and is too petty to argue with them over, but they are living proof of something people don't want to admit, which is that all people are shitty and shallow enough to base the worth of other people on how much sex they have and shame people who don't or can't

none of this would even be an issue if people actually thought of others as equals and weren't sizing up everyone around them like stupid animals

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Mine was diagnosed too late for a brace and there's no corrective surgery. Not sure it's hereditary tho.

So, there you go Jow Forums. That's why I'm an incel. Like I said, I'm incredibly self-conscious and anxious. Makes it nigh on impossible to actually attract a woman, even if she could look past my deformity.

I have scoliosis and a bit of pigeon chest too! Also a big mole on my face, fucked up brow, I'm just plain ugly. And I got VERY depressed about it when I fully confronted it. I actually OVER-confronted it though... yeah my body's fucked, I can never do squats, but I'm not as bad as the guys that come up when you google it.

Assuming that you really are that bad, well, that sucks man! It absolutely does. But I don't think you'll have a good response to this one: would you date a female equivalent of yourself? I probably would, especially if she was smart and a likeable, authentic, SOB like me.

I'm not trying to be nice. I don't care, I'm here for entertainment. But when I got laid the most it was because a) I had an authentically rebellious, carefree, attitude that they liked, and b) I was fun to be around.

Humans are complicated. Not all women are mindless automatons subconsciously calculating your mating value. That is EXACTLY what makes humans so successful! We have our please and pain knobs hooked up, and we have some constraints, but between them all is a vast network of logic! They have some CONTROL over what they think is mating value, and guess what, engineering is just as valuable as squats.

You're free to identify with these incel people and form a neurotic philosophy around it that guarantees you'll be miserable, or you can be smart and make the most of life. Maybe your brain sucks too, and your work ethic sucks, and the best you can do is drink or become a monk. Still better than moping. And also very unlikely. Most people stumble into some sort of happiness if they're generally kind and smart, and I don't think you'll be an exception because of your weird chest.

If you aren't good looking it's much harder to get girls, that's a fact

Lol no, fuckin loser

If you're trying to get good looking girls then yeah, otherwise just about anyone can find a partner as long as they're not hideously deformed and I mean really look bad.

>hideously deformed and I mean really look bad.

Like me. I'm fully entitled to be an incel

Like many fringe movements about many things, incels identify a problem. In this case
>some men not being able to get partners. And some others are hyper successful, however most men have some success which is the norm.
I mean this is really not a surprise or news. It has always been like this.

Now at this point there are two questions one can ask.
1. Is this a new trend?
2. Has this been going on for a while but noticed now?

I would say this is not entirely a new trend, but the number of guys who are without a partner seem to increase. And this has been going on for decades mostly if not centuries, but thanks to social media and internet now even if you are literally one in a million you can connect with people in similar situation.

Where incels go array is not the analysis of the situation, but deductions that come from it. They fall into naturalistic and deterministic falacies, and try to reduce a near infinite variable situation into one or two at most.

They just need to be shown a better perspective..

tl;dr incels are fucking dumb.

I doubt it, they are right about a few things but incel is a mindset, and a rare one at that.

Some people really don't help either, like lying to them about how low the bar really is etc..

They are.

But humans hate upsetting facts.

People don't hate incels, incels hate themselves and project harder than any other demographic, possibly excluding the SJWs (of whom they are basically a male equivalent).

>Do people hate incels because deep down they know incels are right?
What are incels right about?

Being an involuntary celibate means you are more than likely a social outcast with very little life experience, the type of people who instead of improving themselves or bettering their lives opt to anonymously talk on the internet, browse porn and claim that doing anything that involves other people means "not being themselves" to excuse their pathetic existence.
Incels don't hold any significant insight into life, they are at the very best spouting things that someone else said/wrote or trying to convince other people that they are happy with their lifestyle.

Something is wrong with me. I’never get any attention from women, never had a date, have trouble meeting women. The friends I have don’t know anyone who’d wanna hook up with me or I would assume it would happen. I feel like I’m unattractive and find it hard to feel good about myself. Do I have a unlikable face?

Am I an ugly incel? I have female friends but I get jealous of all the giys that they talk about and hit on. Thought I was a cute guy but it shouldn’t be so hard if I am.

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Stop posting.

No. I think my questions should be asked

Literally just tell your doctor you have ED and they'll take you at your word.

>most women are shallow, most women would fuck chad knowing that chads fucks other women than fuck average 5/10 dude who is faithful.
I'm 28, I'm slightly overweight but train in the gym (bordering on a "dadbod"), I am "unconventionally attractive" at best and get told that I look like Sid the Sloth when I smile. All I have to do is approach women IRL (in the right places) and chat to them, there's no secret, treat them like a person and they will engage with you, if they aren't interested they will reject you (if they are being polite, accept it, if they give a stern response leave and don't go near them again).
Women aren't shallow, you're just a sperg who can't talk to women.
Don't expect women to approach you, it doesn't work like that, Elliot Rogers thought that worked and all he achieved was killing some nerdy asian kids and randomers.

>don't expect women to approach you, it doesn't work like that
Happened to me. Not sure if I'm glad of it now though, its fucked with my head.

No, user said don't expect them to. There's a difference. I've had women hit on me before a few times but a lot of women won't do that. Still, I'm not the kind of guy that randomly hits on women just because I fancy them, if I don't get any signals I'm not going to take the risk of humiliating myself with rejection on my first impression.

>usually overweight, disproportionate body features, generally lost the genetic lottery
>no decent sense of fashion or style appropriate to time or setting (e.g. the textbook fedora with an anime shirt, cargo shorts, sandles and socks; in public)
>almost always a NEET with no goals or aspirations in life. No passion or drive pulling them in a certain direction
>terrible personal hygiene and upkeep of appearance
>almost always entitled as fuck, walking around with a chip on their shoulder thinking the world owes them something when they themselves have contributed absolutely fuck-all
>doesn't even make any effort to go outside except to resupply, won't involve themselves in social circles or hobbies that involve the opposite sex
>interpersonal social skills and personality of an aspie
>overly high expectations and won't compromise for a girl just as ugly or autistic as they are
>refuses to self reflect and work on shortcomings, overly inflated ego and can't take responsibility for their many failings in life

Tell me again how incels are right

Guys like you make me sad user, you look like a fairly attractive guy you just lack either intelligence, social skills, life skills in general, or a combination of these things if not all. You look good, but is that all you got?

>tfw none of these fit me but I'm still an incel

Women are retards.

No you're not. If you don't identify as an incel and believe in their teachings you're no incel.

I hate them because I used to be one until I started having sex regularly and not being a socially awkward spaz and they remind me of how gay and whiney I used to act.

I'm involuntary celibate
>If you don't identify as an incel and believe in their teachings you're no incel
what does this even mean?

Thanks. Maybe I’m autistic or something. I don’t know why girls don’t give me a chance or show me hints that they are interested, maybe they think I’m weird :(

>I started having sex regularly and not being a socially awkward spaz
how do you do this?

You're choosing to not have sex. If you wanted to have sex you would have it. But saying you're celibate means you decided to not have sex.

Losers don't get sympathy.

In my mom's department (all boomers), they once got a twenty-something intern, lazy and sloppy as fuck, always wore a baseball cap the other way around, a real winner. One day he apparently sperged out, ranting about how all women care for these days was money and good looks, bla bla bla. Made the entire present staff laugh out loud. Fag quit a few weeks later by texting his boss "I don't feel like working anymore".

And you expect people to be understanding for the likes of you? You're being removed from the gene pool for a reason, deal with it.

I think what he's trying to say is you don't seem like the stereotypical shitposting incel that thinks women should be slaves, more of like a guy who's just unfortunately not had a fuck in a while

user, I would love to have a girlfriend and sex, I don't understand what you are saying

sorry to break this to you but when you are convinced you're cute but no girl ever hits on u then you're not cute. it's not all about face and muscles either, personality also adds to cuteness.

Ok so what about my appearance looks ugly?

I don't like them because they would rather cry about a problem than fix it. I can't stand people like this. They are borderline useless and they get what is coming to them.

>You're being removed from the gene pool for a reason, deal with it.

Careful user, I've seen plenty of 'losers' undeserving of being in the gene pool if I go by your anecdote successfully remain in said pool. Don't get ahead of yourself, life in the human world doesn't always work that way.

Why are you idiots so desperate to end your lives? Do you not see what women do to men when you're in the workplace? Why in god's name would you want that? Enjoy your life and if you end up with a woman so be it, but if you don't then deal. You'll have more money for yourself and you won't have to plan around some crazy emotional cunt who takes all your shit whether you're still with her or not.