Why do incels care about sex so much?

Why do incels care about sex so much?

Their attitude is, If I can't get laid then I might aswell "LDAR" (Lay Down And Rot).

Why don't you just do something else?

Do incels imagine Chad is literally fucking women all of his waking life?

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Because at the end of the day, getting laid is all that matters. Now imagine not getting laid for decades.

the better question is, why the fuck do you care what low value males do?

>Now imagine not getting laid for decades.
I'd just fap then do something else. Eat. Drink wine. Learn a language. Make money. Travel around.

There's loads of things just as enjoyable as sex.

Because they're shooting people.

lmao, get real, stupid, your proposition sounds like the opening paragraph of a self help book published by reddit.

blacks and latinos shoot more people in a day than every school shooter on American soil combined.

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I mean these are the kind of things I do when I'm not fucking.

I only spend a couple of hours a week fucking, it's a tiny part of my life.

35 yo female virgin here. Speak for yourself.
People like you are disgusting.

How fat are you?

Nobody cares about non-whites.

not as disgusting as you, apparently.
>uh why can't they just be like me?

>blacks and latinos shoot more people in a day than every school shooter on American soil combined.

These people can't be helped, violence is in their genes.

Whites and Asians should hold themselves to a higher standard.

How stupid are you?

Damn you must be a landwhale, rip, can't easy hack life on easy mode

>I'm so self-centered I can't imagine people not having sex by choice!

And yet there are Christian monks who go their entire lives without ever even having sex. The Christian belief is that sex is only for procreation. There is much more to life than sex.

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>there can't exist people who don't want sex
>you must be something I don't like that's why you don't have sex
>but when *I* don't get sex that's because of *other* people yes it can't be it's because I'm something *they* don't like
Incels, everyone.

why?
>just let them
fucking leafs

Eternal reward in the hereafter is far more important than Earthly pleasures. Their transcendent goals keep them celibate, nothing else.

What say you to those without such lofty ideals?

>I'm so self-centered, I can't even imagine people not being able to have sex, and the adverse effects it can have to one's psyche

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases
Don't believe their lies.
The christian belief is that sex is only for procreation but they oppose women getting birth control, abortion and sterilization so procreation is not forced on them, while christians are all too happy to force rape on innocents.

>why?
Because we're now low-IQ savages...

Don't let them. Don't import anymore but short of genocide there's not much you can do.

>clergymen are sick fucks which means people are too
abortion is murder btw

>not being able to have sex
Paraplegics can have sex. I doubt you're missing any organs or limbs.
>the adverse effects it can have to one's psyche
Being subjected to a shitty partner who doesn't care about what you want has adverse effects to one's psyche, I don't see you caring about that.

Men commit 80% percent of the crimes but account for 50% of the overall population, we need to cleanse the earth of men desu desu

Not it's not. It's eviction of an illegal alien, removal of a parasite from the body.
What happens to it outside the woman's body is its problem.

That's why whites and asians do tons of pornography and engage in very sick acts? The only people with self respect are muslims, I know it makes you westerns angry to hear the truth, only muslims have self respect, they raise good children and don't allow their daughters to become cum dumpsters

>clergymen are sick fucks which means people are too
Yes, people are sick fucks and so are clergymen.

If you don't want sex there is something mentally wrong with you.

>muslims
>self respect
That what you call goat fucking these days?

>That's why whites and asians do tons of pornography and engage in very sick acts?

Only a muslim would compare murder to having sex on camera.

>says the mentally ill incel

I'm sorry you are fat, eat less and you won't be. I actually pity you. You are a woman and can have it easy but you fucked yourself more than any man ever could.

This desu. I just fucked up a chance with a girl. I'm just happy I had a chance at all and going back to enjoying my new job etc.

Grow up, basically. You don't get everything you want in life.

>senseless shitpost
Incels really can't imagine anything outside their baseless delusions.

as a 34 year old dude who has traveled around the world and works remotely earning 6 figures before bonuses I'd throw all that shit away for a chance at a genuine relationship. The last date i had was 6 years ago with a kiss being as far as I'll ever go.

>I'm just happy I had a chance at all
But that's the point, incels don't have a chance.

No, they just tell themselves that so they don’t have to try. Don’t give me that ugly, manlet bullshit either. I’m 5’7”, married, and have the body hair of a gorilla.

You're not making any sense and there are other denominations beside catholicism. (not to say all catholics are predators.)

Doing what's right for them is what keeps them celibate. God calls some people to celibacy and some not. Christians don't just follow God because they want to be rewarded. I would recommend checking out this video youtube.com/watch?v=GswSg2ohqmA

>subjected to a shitty partner
You get compassion and care from all across culture for what you went through. What does the other side get? Mockery, disgust, laughed at.

>Belief sex is for procreation
>Oppose things that lead to sex without procreation
Well holy fucking shit! What a contradiction!

Very few don't, for most it's just a convenient excuse for not trying and avoiding the pain and discomfort of rejection.

>compassion and care
Yeah, that's why women are blamed and punished for men's actions "she asked for it by _______ (insert unrelated thing here) across all cultures far more than men are

>Oppose things that lead to women not being forced into pregnancies they don't want, especially in the event of assault
Fixed that for you.

Incels whine about the pain and discomfort of rejection but they never care about the pain and discomfort their behavior brings on women.

Swear off sex then if you really believe that
Otherwise you're only proving incels right

Because their IQ is below 80, they have no jobs, they rage on the internet all day long about how raping women should be illegal, and are just generally the dumbest shits you could ever imagine.

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They want rape to be legal actually.
And then they whine nobody wants them.

My bad. Obviously they think rape should be legal.

>Punished for men's actions
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
If we're going with rape as the example here, rapists - convicted or not - are pretty much universally going to be shunned by community they are in, maybe even physically attacked, sometimes killed.
What you want to use as your examples are people from three states over who don't
HAVE to care, because its not their community, and the public media networks that are looking to drum up controversy.
Try again, darling.
>Event of an assault
See, I won't disagree with you here, rapebabies should mandatorily be ripped out and chopped up so its genes can't pass...
Of course, I'm sure that's all you and I will agree on when it comes to this. So I'll just say some things I know will piss you off:
>is non-rape situations, men should have a say in whether or not his child is aborted.
>you seem to be operating from the grounds that men and women are totally meant to operate in the same areas.
>I feel terrible for you for whatever situations you've been put through to the point you felt the need to shut yourself away and never experience the joys of having your own family.

Seems like you're describing niggers, kek.

Makes you think doesn't it.

you get offers for sex everyday. incels get no offers their entire life

Because nobody knows an incel who shuts himself in the basement and never communicates with anyone from the outside even exists.

>rapists - convicted or not - are pretty much universally going to be shunned by community they are in
Yeah that's why pedophile Roy Moore nearly got reelected, why Trump and Kavanaugh hold positions of power despite the charges against them, why your kind always rushes to call any woman who accuses a white conservative man of rape "slut" and "whore" even though you have no proof she's lying, you just want to think so because you hate women. Fuck off, liar.
>its not their community
>it's ok if women I don't care for get raped, fuck'em
Disgusting.
>public media networks that are looking to drum up controversy
Ah yes, the age old bullshit. "But *I* like him, he can't be a rapist!"
No, there's no controversy. He is a rapist and you're defending him. Thanks for proving me right.
>I won't disagree with you here
You will. You will claim marital rape is not rape, it was just rough sex, drunk people can consent, but she was wearing that so she asked for it, but she looked my way so she asked for it, but she did not fight back (she was terrified, idiot) so she asked for it, there's no sign of violence so she asked for it, etc. etc. etc. The list of excuses you people make is endless. Quit your bullshit.
me things I know will piss you off:
>is non-rape situations, men should have a say in whether or not his child is aborted
No. Men will always say it wasn't rape. A lot of men are liars looking to control women. Women's bodies are not yours to control.
Fuck off with the word vomit.

You have pink hair don't you?

You wish.

Pink hair confirmed. Absolutely seething about having hit the wall too, probably. Cats can't fill that hole forever.

>His lies destroyed, the incel falls to shitposting again.

Look at this SCUM manifesto femcel

Kek imagine believing this. You incels are so fucking cringy. Sex is far from the only thing that matters, let alone the most important thing. I used to only care about getting laid, I was a virgin until I was twenty. But once I fucked a couple women I realized how stupid I was caring so much about it.

You people put pussy on such a pedestal that you can't help it but be desperate, cringy little fucks that no one likes. You hold women so high then complain about some perceived advantage they have over society because they're held so highly. You see them only as sex objects that should only exist to give you sexual gratification like some kind of textbook misogynist and wonder why women don't fall for you like they do for guys in porn.

You incels are nothing more than immature manchildren that think they're entitled to sex for simply being around. Grow the fuck up.

I can't wait to see what shitty ""arguments"" I get back. You're probably gonna call me cringe, or complain about how women just never notice you and how you never take the initiative to talk to them. You're probably just going to try insult me and think you've won some great intellectual fight.

>her nature revealed, the catlady attempts the incel smear

Just out of curiosity, why do you incels never post a single fact to back up your beliefs? Anytime someone asks you why you believe in what you do, you only rage back without any shred of intelligence.

>once I finally got a drink of water I realized water was completely overrated

>smear
The fact you excuse and justify rape is the smear.

>Moore, Trump, Kavanaugh
All reinforce what I said: not their community, not their problem. Humans just aren't evolved for the kind of connectivity that social media has opened us up to. So it leads either to emotional deadness or hysteria--you and I both are supreme examples of this.
Not to mention: the rich and powerful will always be above the law. When you're at the top the rules are different.
>age old bullshit
Can't speak for Moore, don't know the case.
The Trump thing? Bullshit.
Kavanaugh? Oh, ABSOLUTE bullshit--but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt: sorry darling, but you can't try and convict for a crime decades after it occurred. No evidence, not how justice works. Not going to "listen and believe".
>Accusations, Accusations
My my, it's true when the say the Left can't predict the Right's values... Sorry, darling, but you're wrong in ALL accounts.
>Men will always say it wasn't rape
And women will always say it was in that exact. So, how about a compromise: end the culture of premarital intercourse, shun it at the lightest, enforce chastity until wedlock at the harshest.
That serves us both.

What does 'trying' even mean?

>sex is as essential as water
Okay kid.

>calls someone out for smearing despite spending most of this thread smearing them

They don't have any facts. They take their opinions and perceptions as absolute truths. Then they make these ideas their identity. Anything that goes against what they believe can be perceived as going after their identity

>sex is as essential as water
I knew you'd jump straight to that. It's that we have a biological urge to fulfill (drinking water, having sex) and when we fulfill it we just go "oh okay that's done now" whereas if we don't it continues to bother us.

Why are you still alive then? Because by your logic you would be whining about how you're not getting any water because nobody has brought it down to your basement and you're dying of thirst. It's no fair chad gets water given to him since birth why must I get up from my chair and get water.

>not their community, not their problem
Not an excuse.
>the rich and powerful will always be above the law
Also not an excuse.
See? You've already started making excuses for rapists.
>you can't try and convict for a crime decades after it occurred
Oh you definitely can.
>how about a compromise
That's not a compromise, that's just the same old bullshit that just ends up hurting innocent women. This is a compromise: over-the-counter hormonal and emergency contraception available to all women of all ages, at a very low, controlled price so it's available to all women of all economic levels. Government-funded sterilization on demand available to all women who request it, no matter what, no license to operate for doctors who refuse to perform it. Legal abortion until the third trimester available at a low, controlled cost for all women who request it, in all hospitals even the religious ones, with late term also available in case of health complications for the woman. No license to operate for doctors who refuse to perform it, no fundings to religious hospital that refuse to perform sterilizations or abortions.
No demonizing of female sexuality, let women enjoy their erotica and sex toys without thinking that makes them sluts for you.They're not. They don't want you. Shame men who don't respect women when they turn them down. Your own children included.
No punishment for women who defend themselves against unwanted men. Death penalty for rape, including marital rape, harsher sentences for sexual harassment, physical, visual or verbal.
Anything less than this is unacceptable.

Listen you bumbling fucking soft-headed double nigger, sex =/= water. Just because they're both biological urges doesn't make them equal. But let's say they are, let's use your logic
>drinking water is equal to having sex
>if I don't drink water, I get sick and die
>therefore if I don't have sex, I'll get sick and die??

>we have a biological urge to fulfill
And yet women happily become old virgins ("cat ladies" as you say) without ever having this urge at all. Sounds like you're full of shit.

good job missing the point again.

>visual
holy fuck you people are insane

Stop sending unsolicited dick pics.

Stop instagram thots.

Try using an analogy that isn't fucking retarded.

Let me guess, the point is that incels are only cringy, desperate, entitled manchildren because they haven't fulfilled such an "important" biological urge? Yet, there are men and women that deny this urge and voluntarily stay celibate?

Don't be this guy.

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You'd whine for them to come back, hypocrite.

>Trump
Not a rapist. If you are referring to the grab them by the pussy comment, he was clearly describing people letting him (concent to) grab their pussy.
>Kavanaugh
It turned out it was all a lie to take out a political opponent. Why bring him up?
>it's ok if women I don't care for get raped, fuck'em
I don't think that. If a man rapes a girl, I want to him to burn in the middle of the town.
The difference between killing a man and having sympathy for getting falsely accused is the truth.
That makes it extremely important and I don't think the public opinion should determine the punishment.
>No, there's no controversy.
If a man raped a woman, that would be a controversy. Accusing a political figure the moment he becomes a political figure is suspect to say the least. I find it very odd that these allegations were not brought against him the day after, the week after or even the year after it happened.

>drunk people can consent
Of course they can. A drunk girl might not be capable of fighting off a strong man, but she could still say no and make it clear to him that he should stop. Alcohol isn't magic.
You need to drink a LOT to get blackout drunk or passed out and in that situation it is not a thing people can ever be confused about.
If you are having sex with a girl that is asleep or passed out, that is rape.
>in non-rape situations, men should have a say in whether or not his child is aborted.
Obviously the father should have a say, how is that even controversial?
Family decisions should be made in the family.
Ultimately, it is the decision of the one with the child inside them but people shouldn't just have abortions because they can't figure out how to use a condom.

Holy shit you sound insane.
I wouldn't even rape you.

>he was clearly describing people letting him (concent to) grab their pussy
No that's not what grab means.
>having sympathy for getting falsely accused
I bet you determine the falsely accused on your political sympathies rather than on what's actually being said. False accusations are an extreme minority men purposely exaggerate. Once again you make excuses for rapists.
>Accusing a political figure the moment he becomes a political figure is suspect
No it's not. It's the best moment actually for people to pay attention to your case, as in ordinary conditions rape accusations are just dismissed because of excuses men make up against women.
>Of course they can
No. Intoxicated people are not sober enough to make decisions. They can't drive, they can't have sex either. Alcohol is a drug that impairs the brain. You don't need to be black out drunk not to be able to drive or consent.
>Obviously the father should have a say
The lying, rapist father that everyone believes because he's such a good upstanding white conservative family man, in public. No, he should never have a say. No man should ever a say, he would lie for the purpose of hurting the woman. Women's bodies are not public property, the woman's body belongs to the woman alone, she decides what happens with it and any unwanted intruders get expelled out.
It's not a family decision. The woman's body belongs to the woman alone, she does not literally share it with you, so you stay out of her business.
>people shouldn't just have abortions because they can't figure out how to use a condom
Condoms are useless in preventing pregnancy. You know what works? Iuds. Colorado distributed free iuds to teenagers and abortions went down. That's how you prevent abortions and pieces of shit like you don't want to do that.

Ew.
You shouldn't rape anyone.

>No that's not what grab means.
>And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything.
>Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.
If they let him do it, that is consent. He is describing how women throw themselves at him and find it sexy when he touches them because he is famous. If women resisted or told him to fuck off, that would be a different thing.
>I bet you determine the falsely accused on your political sympathies rather than on what's actually being said.
No.
When it turns out the story falls apart, there isn't any substance to the allegations and there is a motive for the accuser to take down the accused, I have sympathy for the accused.
I am not driven by ideology. It does not matter what side people are on in a political debate.
>It's the best moment actually for people to pay attention to your case
Exactly. I don't want people to pay attention to a rape, I want the police to handle that.
"The people" can't make a judgement to whether such an accusation is true or not.
It is impossible to figure out the truth so many years later, at best you can ask people who knew the people around the time and in this specific case, it turned out there wasn't anything there. If she was hurt by him, she should have spoken up about it when it happened. Told his friends, her friends, relatives, the police, someone.
The lying, rapist father that everyone believes because he's such a good upstanding white conservative family man, in public. No, he should never have a say.
You said in a case where it wasn't rape.
Now he is suddenly a rapist? You are fucking insane.
There is no scenario you can imagine where a man and a woman can have sex without it being rape?
>Condoms are useless in preventing pregnancy.
Whatever you think is true I guess.
>You know what works?
Don't have sex if you aren't ready to raise a child.
Don't invite a man into your home you don't trust to not rape you.
Those are easy steps anyone can do. 100% effective.

90% of murders are commited by women when you account for feticide.

"You grab 'em by the pussy, and they let you"
Sounds like a guy talking macho shit in the company of his friend.

And it shows he doesn't care for the woman's consent. No they don't let you, they're just terrified of you because you've grabbed them in an extremely vulnerable place without their consent meaning you're hurting them and you could do even worse.

Can't be murder when you're removing a parasite from inside your body.

Sex is like air. It's not important until you aren't getting any.

That's an inference you're making. It shows the outcome you want. It shows your bias.

You think he's actually talking about doing it? No, he's just talking shit you muppet.

Not even that. Sex is pushed as a commodity, it's artificially made important. I'd be more sympathetic to incels if they wanted a wholesome relationship.

You have deleted a potential consciousness from existence. It's not murder, but it certainly not a moral good.

My God you actually think he means it literally? Jesus you have no idea how humans work.

I really don’t get incels, when I was in school I couldn’t fathom how guys got laid. When I got out of school I stopped wearing logo T-shirt’s my parents bought, got a job, started dressing nice and lost my virginity the first week I was in my apartment.

Your solution to people that have never had intimacy in their entire life is to drink wine?

>muslims
>he wont google "muslin terrorist attacks"
>he dont know what saudi arabia is
>he dont know what isis is
>he dont know women in muslim countries have to hide they face since they are property

>If they let him do it, that is consent
>a woman frozen in terror is consent
Ah the "but she didn't fight back" excuse. He's threatening violence to her and she didn't want to get beaten up and die, that means she consented. Kill yourself.
>He is describing how women throw themselves at him
Typical male bullshit, rapists always claim shit like that.
>If women resisted
You'd get a murder case then. Rape or death! Wow what a choice!
>told him to fuck off
You incels get told to fuck off all the time. You never listen. Fuck off, liar.
>No.
Uh-huh.
>I don't want people to pay attention to a rape
You are the problem then. I want to pay attention to a rape, because the man will lie and smear the woman to get out of it, you won't pay attention and the woman will get discredited, especially when there's no apparent violence, and the rapist will escape justice.
>If she was hurt by him, she should have spoken up about it when it happened
Lots of women speak up.
And they're not believed because people like you don't pay attention to what they say, or believe the man who calls them sluts who consented when they didn't.
>You said in a case where it wasn't rape
I said he can lie and say it wasn't.
I also said he does not own the woman nor her body. She does not need his permission to do whatever she wants with her body, abortion included.
>There is no scenario you can imagine where a man and a woman can have sex without it being rape?
There is, but it doesn't include men like you.
>Abstinence bullshit
Abstinence doesn't work. Once again you are disregarding what works and pushing for ineffective bullshit. I swear that should be grounds for murder.
>Don't invite a man into your home you don't trust to not rape you
Yeah, because men never change, never lie and break that trust. I bet you don't believe in marital rape either. Kill yourself.
>100% effective
Lies again.
The only proven, effective method to prevent unwanted pregnancy is iuds and implants.
The rest is BS.