/snek/ - Libertarianism general

>Emasculate all our men
If you want to do this is your body, not mine.
>Prevent anyone from defending themselves or others
We support the 2ND Amendment for the others, to prevent from themselves... do you need? NO? And than why another people should think that he needs your rules? You know that is the same think that have adopted the politically correct? "Don't hurt the others, we must be all equal", Equality is an excuse to say "DEFEND YOU FROM YOURSELVES" and be all the same shit.
The other two part are only theories.

Who will build the roads tho
And do you want to eat unregulated and bad food? the FDA isn't perfect but it's better than e-coli.

Add Economics in one Lesson by Harry Hazlitt to the pasta. It's a really good introductory book that spends most of its time clearing up interventionist misconceptions.

Henry Hazlitt* whoops

The Case Against the Fed by Rothbard is an important one.

i want them all to starve to death. its just one good repeal away.

One time the roads in America were private and today there are the private Highway, every house can have the own part of the streets and if you don't want the speed bumps it's all ok, because you have the street. If you want more services you can do your street to a company, but the owner Must be you, you pay this company to have the services that you want. Don't forget how the state work, a private that work bad doesn't have any customer (and than doesn't have money), a state that work bad want the money anyway.

P.S.
For the bad food... you can buy a certificate of another private agency that approve your food. A certificate from the state is easy when you are the friend of a politician, but a private society MUST be professional to have the customer.

>no Rothbard
Anatomy of the State is great short book.

Also add Meltdown by Thomas Woods to dispel any myths about 2008. He's definitely the most accessible to anyone conservative leaning, and actually advocates doable strategies like nullification and secession.

I'm an atheist and fully respect christianity and christian countries, and what they have done for us & provided for us. I just don't believe in God. I don't know if I ever will.

Same.
Libertarianism is great at critiquing the system but is only ever used in a selective manner in real life & will never actually happen because leftists, kikes & brown people will always fuck it up & prevent it from happening.
Literally the only way I could forsee an ancap society happening & being sustained is if eugenics is in place to stop leftists, low IQ authoritarians & if the country is purged of non whites entirely. That's all well & good but it's no longer ancap, thus the paradox of libertarianism.
People who want to be left alone will always tolerate leftists & non whites so the entire premise is self defeating in actual reality.

Can you stop beeing jewish?

>people who want to be left alone will always tolerate
wrong

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>hoppe, the libertarian that's ignored by 90% of libertarians & is only embraced by alt right leaning ancaps
>ignores all of history
Go ahead gimme that sauce boi.

im no ancap, so anecdotal exception of one
as for history, theres no shortage of examples of a group of people booting out another group of people.

>examples
Yes exceptions, the entire western world is living proof of my statement & if anything is further proof that eugenics would need to be in place to only let those exceptional people to breed. It's a genetic paradox.

Is there any hybridisation of Libertarianism with Fascism?
I've been a Libertarian and a free market faggot for a while now but I'm also Nationalistic and like some Fascist ideals. I feel like they could exist together but also have some contentious points.

Hoppe is your guy. I've also been referred to the websites Liberty Hangout & Radical Capitalist for this very reason, they're very pro white & for physical removal.

Thanks fren. I've reread Hayek recently but needed something more juicy.

i only took exception to the statement i quoted, not arguing with much else. in agreement that the those exceptionals on the wrong end must at a minimum be placed somewhere far away from me.

Anytime, bud. I'd also say Chris Cantwell but he's really revealed himself to be a slimy person. Still, if you can look past that, some of his stuff is really good, I can't take that away from him.

Well it was a general statement not meant to be an absolute, I should've made that more clear when I said it.

Why do you search something like that?

why wouldnt he, he likes freedom but his country is being invaded. people want solutions.

The solution like the Fbi and Cia that see what you do in your phone. If you like freedom you can't be fascist or use some "special police", this isn't freedom.

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noice

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im libertarian nationalist not fascist

you sound afraid. britbro doesnt. no one follows your ideology it they see it as weak.

same here. if you dont want people to go natsoc you need a better solution. we dont need secret police, we need sheriffs who can deal with invasions as they see fit.

basic things such as following the constitution is now considered fascist even though its the opposite, which leads idiots to become either what they think is fascist or what they think is 'anti-fascist', they have no idea where they lie on anything apart from petty emotional squabbles of which they still know nothing

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Libertarians just replace government with companies.

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so we should play both sides and peel off the thinkers, just like we have since the 70s. we can both be anti fascist and stronger than fascism. we will likely be smeared as both, but thats fun because you can turn it around on them easily. part of what made the paul revolution so popular was both its edginess (which we have lost) as well as its resistance to being labeled in the left right paradigm.

Who runs the lemonade stand, is it a currystain doing it for less than a dollar an hour, who you are incapable of competing with so you have no job. A libertarian society would be the same as what we have today. Fucking trash

We haven't lost our edginess, the MSM just created a fake edginess around so called alt-righters and with the robbing of Ron Paul's election chances we gave up on voting and try to do things through other means

>actually wanting to shut down lemonade stands because a nigger ran one
you dont regulate lemonade stands because one of them is run by a nigger you fucking retard, you kick out the niggers

How do you stop the niggers and kick them out without a border and a force to do so? That requires a government. All you fuckers give a shit about is muh weed and guns, not a single thought for the people of your country. Only thing I can meet you guys on is free speech and guns.

How long did it take you to realize nonwhites can't be trusted with freedom, and that libertarian ideals led to the freedomless world of the modern west?

Market gets flooded by cheap goods from third world shit holes, no one can compete. Jobs get given by the unregulated companies to third worlders cause they'll do it for nothing. Hurr Durr at least it's not the government

Nah dawg you get them private companies to do it because people will pay for that because reasons.
Nah dawg you just convince people to not buy cheap foreign goods, people will pay the premium of local goods because reasons.

>border requires a government
retard
all civilizations collapse

burr should have shot hamilton sooner.

So your telling me that, if there is no government to erect a wall, pay guards. The immigrants won't come in for...reasons.

>only government can pay people
statist retard

fuck year

small business general finally?

/sbg/ + /ptg/ = political power

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Face it, no one likes you and your ideology. You're only a pipeline to nationalism and populism, and I don't even know how that fucking works but it got me.

Who pays then, the people?
They're all selfish in a libertarian society.
The companies?
They benefit from illegals why would they stop them.

Will you man the border for free?

Don't expect a serious answer from them.

The truth is that libertarians, who are almost entirely white, assume that all people can/will be as inherently altruistic as sheltered whites. Obviously, that's not the case.

Someone else who isn't driving blind on a libertarian thread! Good to see you!

we're well aware of fake libertarians dipshit, please do convert all the NPC's to whatever ideology you like

>explicitly state that non whites should be physically removed
>hurrr you think niggers are smart LOL!
ok

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>ancap calling other ideologies NPCs

y i k e s

That'd be a violation of the NAP, Caleb. Regardless, I didn't and won't be reading your shit thread about how your particular brand of libertarianism hasn't been tried and would totally work.

>yikes
back to r*ddit

I'm going to leave you with some nihilistic thought, I'm not one of them but I still like this thought.

You're an infinitely small amount of matter floating through an uncaring universe, and soon enough you'll be dead.

Perhaps a piece of you will survive through a nationalistic state that represents a group of people that also represents you.

>a pipeline to nationalism and populism
Rational individuals will eventually come across the realization that these freedom ideas didn't just appear out of thin air & notice that the biggest opponents to them are non whites. Then they notice that non white countries never had & never will have any of the same ideas & on it goes.
To be fair it's the state that's currently stopping people from going & shooting spics at the border right now, I can guarantee that'd be happening right now if the glowniggers wouldn't drone strike us for it. There's a pro ancao argument for ya lol.

>Libertarianism

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>moral subjectivism
no thanks commie satanist

Altruism doesnt exist. At all.

Yeah, that's also true but I did state I hate the system we currently exist in and libertarianism. In my perfect world you'd be allowed to have fun with the fuckers at the border. xD

Not a commie nor a Satanist, ponder what I said.

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Stealing that from you, have some more libertarians to school.

>duuudee you're just a speck of dust in space so nothing matters you'll only find meaning through the state
no

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>Build a business that you can pass on to your kids

>acquire the wealth and power to retake control over the American government

entrepreneurship is the most Jow Forums fucking thing there is

It's just a false dichotomy. I live in a super Christian bible belt region and these fuckers have no idea what they're doing. There are religious based laws on the books such as no alcohol on Sunday morning.

Golden rule however applies. And when some other majority takes over I'm not going to shed a single tear as the new majority likewise bans things they dont like, such as pork consumption. Those hypocrite Christians will have zero leg to stand on. They wont care about the golden rule till it bites them in the ass.

Fair, have fun getting high on weed and waiting for a nigger to assault your property so that you can use that shotty of yours. Libertarians are pathetic people who don't realise that perhaps it's not all about themselves

RON PAUL STAND TALL

What about pathological altruism?
I like the idea of it in theory, but that's all it'll ever be. For the hell of it I made a argument for it since our resident ancap seems too lazy to bother making any arguments for it lol.

>Those hypocrite Christians will have zero leg to stand on. They wont care about the golden rule till it bites them in the ass.
Story of my life right here.

>What about pathological altruism?
Altruism is supossed to be doing something good for nothing in return. Well if you do something good and get overwhelming sense of accomplishment then you DID get something. Pathological is beyond my understanding I'm not a psychiatrist but in general no, altruism does not exist.

Fuck that. The FDA has the might of the state and despite it's shortcomings for anything like that to work it has to be centralized and with power. Private companies would be a joke.

Very true, I don't agree with ms Christianity, and some of Jesus teachings are pretty retarded. For me it's more god left us on earth as a Petri dish, we have full control, and all he does is wait for us when we die in heaven.

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Well it was kind of a joke reply, it's the same as altruism as you stated with the exception that it directly results in negative outcomes.

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No step on snek

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>Private companies would be a joke.
Yes the private companies that pay off the FDA are a joke, I agree.

I took it fairly seriously, as being altruistic due to some unquenchable mental issue is still providing the mentally ill with the satisfaction of their issue

It was a joke in the sense that pathological altruism & altruism are both coming from the same exact evil motivation.

Wait, evil? I'm not understanding this

Nice guys are not good people yet they act altruistic to deceive people. Liberals are not good people & their altruism ends up destroying entire nations.
If the outcome is evil then I naturally will label the motivation for such outcomes as evil for sake of simplicity, hence why I said they both come from the same evil motivation. Now you can disagree with that & that's fine, I'm just explaining the logic behind the statement.

>libertarian is the same as anarchist
>all you fuckers care about is weed and guns
All you're doing is parroting shitty memes. You're fucking clueless, (((britbong))).

Human beings do not exist to serve markets, markets exist to serve human beings. Global capital has devoured our children. It has left a generation we were warned of long ago: "...the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered." This has now occurred through offshoring, mass transfers of immigration, and automation. It is not the horrors of the boomer generation; the drop in marriages, out of wed lock births, addictions, sky high incarceration rates, but their children the millennials who have been left with nothing, deprived of all, the promise of tomorrow. Unless a candidate emerges who will economic justice, economic liberalism, and a conservative social paradigm, the American Dream is no longer be possible.Socialism will be chosen. You have been betrayed, anons.

Maybe it is "weak", but that doesn't mean nothing, nazism and communism have a lot of sheep, but are the most cruelty ideologies. Do you like Fbi and Cia? Look what's happened in Waco, if you need the Dad-state you need somebody that think for you and and in your place.

Let's make it more simple, you believe in the fascism and in the freedom. It look like a hyppie warmonger. Can you tell me what tipe of government you want? The type of law, the type of freedom (Press & market for example) and when can a police man searches, confiscate or arrest a citizen?