Ok lads, red pill me on the holocaust. I am honestly not sure whether it happened or it was over exaggerated...

Ok lads, red pill me on the holocaust. I am honestly not sure whether it happened or it was over exaggerated, if I find a point that I believe is wrong, I will refute it just to insure that this remains factual.

But to sum it up, show me that the holocaust happened of not

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Also this doesn’t go against the rules because I will remain active on this thread

Disbelieving the holocaust is like believing the antivaxxers, flat earthers and moon hoaxers. If we were pre internet, id understand but information is widely accessible now so its impossible to respect.

Interesting, so you believe in the holocaust? You believe that the wide evidence is impossible to refute?

The Holocaust was a man-made famine in Soviet Ukraine in 1932 and 1933 that killed millions of Ukrainians. It is also known as the Terror-Famine

I often just think of how long it would take to round up six million unwilling people with a moderately sized army. Just the round-up itself. It would take ages. There’s no way it could happen.

It didn't happen but it should have

Your country cracked the German code back in 1941, meaning you could listen in on the high command. Why then didn't we know about the Holocaust until 1945?

We’re talking about the holocaust not the holodomor

It can be done if they are disarmed.

Good point user

Right? Especially with the technology available in 1940’s? No fucking way. Also, how the fk were they able to take such a high quality photo of these stupid kikes in OP’s pic?

holocaustdeprogrammingcourse.com/
m.youtube.com/watch?v=SYwOO4dYDxc
You decide

You replied to me twice.

holo holo

Look at those Jews, standing around doing nothing. Real German boys that age were fighting by the end of the war. The Jews refused to fight and were protected by their own government in walled cities for their own safety, and they repaid them by making up such horrific stories.

The Jew is a liar.

Personally, I believe that the Holocaust did happen, but the Jewish foreign policy promoted it so much that if you were to say "sure, it did happen, but what about other genocides such as the Armenian, Pontic Greek, Assyrian, etc? Weren't people murdered too? How about the millions of dead civilians of WW1? Weren't they murdered/raped/executed/exiled/etc? " you would become "lItErAlLy hItLEr!1!" And a Holocaust denial. The Jews are hypocrites regarding the Holocaust and generally other genocides.

David Irving is the worlds foremost expert on Nazi Germany. All other (((historians))) who have written about the Nazi's or the Holocaust are full of shit or are not thorough enough to realize that they are sharing lies. Irving is the only Hitler historian who actually interviewed the surviving members of the high command and, through his contact with them, had access to private journals among other original documents. For instance, there is a book, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, which most (((sources))) will claim is one of the most well researched and written books about Nazi Germany. If you read it and read "Hitler's War" By David Irving, you will see for yourself which book is a better authority. It's not even close.
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The strange thing is, they don’t look very Jewish, I’ve seen Jewish children before and they don’t look like this at all

It´s because they are not jews. OP´s pic is staged Soviet propaganda pic from Finnish internment camp in East Karelia taken after the Finns had left.

didn't happen but it will

That's because Jews are LARPs. You have a long way to go kiddo.

Requiring the board to disprove your Holocaust fantasy is absurd. It didn't happen. When the world finally wakes up to this fact, the backlash is going to be so severe that they will never recovery. Not in 100,000 years.

Rea’s IBM and the Holocaust

You can find a pdf online if you are cheap. Edwin Black.

Shows how they used IBM card technology to do census work, identify, and find Jews, organise transport and organise slave labour.

Just because you are ignorant of the facts does not mean they didn’t happen, or couldn’t. Your ignorance is not an argument

Because the German camps only used enigma for limited purposes, and the intercepts ended in 43 when they changed codes and the allies couldn’t crack them?

When the killings were at their peak the allies didn’t have code breaking ability

And Irving also says he is not a Holocaust expert, and that it happened

So what is your point?

What is this a picture of? Why is the sign in Cyrillic?

Petrozavodsk during the occupation - Suomi concentration camp for us.

You can find (((them))) admitting to lying and fabricating some if not all of it for the record I think it was like the gulags or internment camps the point wasn't to genocide the jews but use them for labor and when the supply lines were destroyed the Germans (understandably) took care of their own people and there wasn't enough food or meds for the jews

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holocaustdeprogrammingcourse.com

There, now read it and come back to us

Based German.

Why does not t have lies about the Red Cross on the first page.

They did not make normal visits to Auschwitz - they had one visit, only allowed into the commandant’s office for short interview and escorted out with no inspection of the camp.

The Bad Arolsen archives do not have a list of everyone intervened ,and everyone who died in the camps. How could they have?

These are plain lies.

Indeed it is a good point. Now you've heard many times about the Enigma machine being decoded, right? But you are never told what exactly they heard.

They heard messages from the "death camps" too.. What were those messages? Mainly panic about the typhus epidemic and their worries about people dying.

The messages were not about gassing, killing people, murder, glorying f it, they were messages of concern and worry.

That's why you never hear about the enigma transcripts and are simply only ever told they decoded the messages but not what the messages were and they content.

What happened to your promise to refute obviously wrong points? Have you done any fact checking on this?

Plan was barley even recorded - in a nation of obsessive record-keepers. Of course it wasn't mentioned 'clearly' or often in official communications. Same would probably happen now, desu.

Correct. It took YEARS. As you very well know.

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I honestly don't know if it happened. Though I hope it did.

this thread. again. happens twice a day. instead of being a retard, just lurk. you will see this thread, every day, with the same answers. or better yet, check the archive........

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Those are assumptions, not facts. You can't base a truth on an assumption you just made.

What facts we do have are that the Germans had no idea their codes had been cracked and their messages from the concentration camps to high command would have been considered very secure to them so they had no logical reason to omit the truth.

Furthermore, their messages were about panic and concern over the high death rate over the typhus epidemic.

Logically again this would not happen if they were willingly killing people.

Unless you want to say on a secure connection they believed was not at all compromised, they were putting on a show to pretend to be concerned over typhus while secretly saying we are gassing them in coded language? Yeah, that makes sense...

Concern your self with facts.

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Sure he never claimed to be an expert on the holocaust, why would he be an expert on an alleged event perpetrated by the people he is an expert on. That's like saying that an expert on The Soviet Union doesn't know enough about the Gulags to give insight. In other words, that argument is fucking retarded. I will point out though that the video I posted was before his trial in Canada, after which he did revise his views from believing that pretty much nothing at all happened, to some were killed but much less than 6,000,000, and much of the story is fake.

They did according to old sources, if you look at new doctored sources, if course the holohoax is real.

They even 'admitted to knowing about the holohoax out of sheer pressure from geopolitical and zionist entities.

Despite that, you should read it all. The technicalities and proper procedures to constructing a functioning extermination camp was never there, they never intended to kill anyone in those camps.

The victors write history, truth need not fear investigation and scrutiny, gtfo

No, this is not how this works. The burden of proof is on the one making the claim, or in other words the one making a accusation. It must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. In school they talked a lot about the alleged holocaust, and jew preached to us about it, but never was there any evidence.

Go ahead and post evidence if you think it happened.

I believe theres far more evidence supporting it happened than the few, partisan voices insisting it didnt. Its also the intellectually dishonest debate style used when denying.

>Rea’s IBM and the Holocaust
>You can find a pdf online if you are cheap. Edwin Black.
>Shows how they used IBM card technology to do census work, identify, and find Jews, organise transport and organise slave labour.
>Just because you are ignorant of the facts does not mean they didn’t happen, or couldn’t. Your ignorance is not an argument

here you go boys
archive.org/stream/IbmAndTheHolocaust/ibm-and-the-holocaust-edwin-black-2001-history_djvu.txt

il read it myself too

Irving is not a partisan, he believed everything about the Holocaust before he started writing Hitler's War.

iving is a NAZI GERMANY EXPERT. did the holocaust not happen under nazi germany? is this not a key event that he would of come across important evidence

not meaning to be a prick, but the close up has absolutely no relation to the content above it...

jews were only present for the last few years of the war in auschwitz. it was poles etc before then

6 million didn't die in death camps.
Majority of those people were worked to death.

They wouldn’t panic about typhus among the slave labour camp, and the guards, if they were also killing the sick and elderly and women and children as useless eaters on arrival...

Why not?

Read the transcript of his trial. He says repeatedly he was not an expert on the holocaust and he was only an expert on the leadership of the party, and a few other issues. He claims he was not given access to Holocaust documents because people said he was a denier, when he was not a denier. He says it repeatedly

Nope. They didn’t. Ou can read the 1947 ICRC reports. They never claimed to have the records, or have death counts for any camp, or all camps.

Your paranoid nonsense Is false.

Census data. Five and half million missing Jews worldwide, all from Europe.

There is no denying the numbers

Thank you.

You will find it interesting how the Nazis ramped up the persecution, and always wanted census data on Jews in every country they invaded. It was a major war aim. They spent a lot of money on it...

I am just quoting him.

They were internment camps, same as the US did to the Japs. When supply lines, later in the war, were broken the people starved and contracted typhus. But Jews are incredibly deceptive and formulated the Holocaust story and thanks to their hive mind and media control they made it stick.

Oh that tired old Pol meme with no historical justification again.

How original.

How many turned up in what is today israel?

It happened. There isn't any way to know for sure how many died - 6 mil is perhaps more of a ballpark estimation than exact head count, and many Jews surely just moved away and vowed to never admit they were Jewish to prevent prosecution for a while - but it happened.

Nazi Germany was very impressive, I agree with many things they did and the means by which they were achieved. Hitler killed a ridiculous number of white people in his attempt to conquer the world though, and made a ridiculous number of Jews into the pussy powerful SJW faggots you know and hate today.. and that must not be glorified if whites are to survive against a world that outbreeds them and is rapidly catching up in tech.

This the brainlet argument. Nobody who denies the holocaust denies Jews died. How hard is this for you to understand. Jesus.

>his attempt to conquer the world

Lol. GO away, Juden.

Like Anne Frank?

They were all mannequins

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No jews whatsoever were killed in any Holocaust.
Not a single one.

If you think anything different then you can't think at all. You just and feelz.

Into the bin with you.

Bonus Point: None of those people are jews.

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Maketh me, goyim.

>There isn't any way to know for sure how many died

Yes there is. The number of jews killed in any Holocaust is precisely known. It is exactly ZERO.

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How is that any different from what I said in my last sentence? He's not a denier because he doesn't deny that jews were killed, why should I read the Canada trial when I can just watch what he had to say as recently as 2016. Do you really think that between the time of the trial and now that he hasn't become an expert on the holocaust? Of course he has, how could he not? Any historian who is literally put on trial for stating what his research has led him to conclude would immediately start researching more, and he did, and that's why he changed his views, like I said, from being pretty adamant that the Nazi's did not plan any mass killings of jews, to they didn't kill as many as so called mainstream historians claim and that there are major inconsistencies in the accepted narrative. He still believes that the accepted view was made up in the 1970's in order to market it to get reparations.

There isn't one (1) Holocaust denier standing today that hasn't already been BTFO - whether they were caught lying or completely misrepresenting their sources. From Irving, to Cole, to Rudolf, to Mattogno, to Faurrison, to Zundel, to Weber.
Even Eric Hunt has retracted most of his claims.
Irving doesn't even deny gassings anymore - have a look at what he say about Operation Reinhard.

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holocaustcontroversies.blogspot.ie/2017/06/debunking-david-coles-auschwitz-video.html

LOL so they just killed a bunch of brits, frenchies, and burgers?

It happened but it was the Russians who did it, not the Germans

I don't know why that version is shorter, perhaps a JIDF edited version to remove the bits they don't like?
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It was aliens harvesting Jew DNA to fix their own (ya know since Jews are so magical) and Hitler traded millions of Jews for ayygore tech to fight the Rothchilds banking cartel to free Germany and Europe.

who cares if it happened or not. the jews got israel out of that deal, so why are they complaining?

This is one of several salient points that exterminists can't grapple with. The mental gymnastics they require to explain say why we have a trove of communions in and out of the camps, but not one reference, even an oblique one, to any extermination - it's amusing. Meanwhile, countless messages regarding prisoner health, even such mundane things as escape attempts, prisoner morale, and more.

dnt think that guys video is edited. irving has changed his views since that debate that was live years ago.

this is the worst attempt at lying I've seen but then again I've come to expect nothing less from holohoax nutters like you.
For those who took this piece of shit seriously the code was never changed, there was no such thing "used enigma for limited purposes", and the Allies had access to all transmissions from 1942 until the end of the war.

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its the same video as the one I posted, only about half as long.

The irony is all of the pro-hoax historians would be considered "deniers" because all of them have changed their stories and lowered their counts, including Raul Hillberg

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then have you even watched it? because throughout the whole video he says that jews were gassed but that hitler had no say or role or knowledge in that (that he would have been against it) - that it was an ad-hoc operation. he also just argues about the high numbers claimed though. irving cucked out big time.

I did and I mention it in

None.

Thst is the point. There is a worldwide drop of over five and a half million

While you would expect an increase of about amillion, given population increase history

They don’t turn up anywhere. Many others did leave after the war and redistribute around the world, but those are accounted for

But they deny that it was five million plus. They often give figured like 270k or other nonsense.

If you agree that over five million Jews died, then how did they Die? It wasn’t of normal wartime violence - in Poland, under brutal mass murdering occupation, about 3 million. On Jewish poles died - about ten percent. At the same time three ,Illinois Jewish poles died - 97% of the Jews. It is wildly disproportionate

well if you're ok with irving saying that jews were gassed, and that they were murdered in the hundreds of thousands, that's your choice. you can choose to cuck out like him if you want. i won't.

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OP, here's a good reference, the author started off trying to prove the narrative and ended up disproving it:
>Breaking the Spell - The Holocaust Myth & Reality
archive.org/details/BreakingTheSpell_201706
There's also this book which covers all the Nuremberg trial "evidence":
>Made In Russia : The Holocaust (book)
archive.org/stream/PorterCarlosWhitlockMadeInRussiaTheHolocaust_201610
the related img is from page 25

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I'm going to need to see the statistical data on that.

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Yes, she was considered an adult and fit for slave labour. She was transferred to another slave labour camp, and then got sick

On the train she arrived on at Auschwitz there were 79 children under fifteen. They, and about five hundred other people on the train, mostly elderly and women, were not taken as slaves, not recorded in the camp books, and never appear anywhere else. They are recorded on the train, but after arrival... nothing. Ever again.

They were sent for a shower...

The user with the ID: 7sBV416a
is an actual cutdick brain damaged jewish internet defense force lackey who believes everyone here is an animal, you will not be able to reason with that compulsive liar

I'm not entirely sure he believes it, it's could be that he lives in a (((police state))) and is old and tired of the (((litigious))).

He might be that french kike but with a new vpn

Must have been a dirty train ride.

Fucking this. He has so many ibyeresting things to say about churchill and the relationship churchill had with polish factions pre ww2