>be me, complete brainlet >assembler at x facility >put together a small part of the product >didn't design, engineer, or even know how the rest of the product goes together >didn't pay for any capital/raw materials >paid for my work on an hourly basis >Machine will probably be doing my job in a few years >have a bad day at work >middle of shift stand up and shout "HURR-DURR I BUILT IT SO IT IS MINE"
Imagine actually being retarded enough to unironically believe this
Because you're making the assumption that communism was started for retarded reasons when it wasn't. Back when it was on the rise the proletariat was truly a proletariat, being forced to work despite disability, capability and age for long unfair hours with unfair pay all for the little pay you got to be taxed by the King who lives in a city miles away from your hovel. Just look at the communist revolution in Russia during world war 1, here are a bunch of people who are underfed, unarmed and told to run at machinegun fire because their king is having a little disagreement with his German cousin. And the fact of the matter is they did know how to manufacture the machines they made and if they didn't they could learn because the resources were all around them to learn. They were just a people sick of being trampled all over by aristocrats and royalty who lived in luxury profiting off the backs of simple people, no different to how the Americans felt during the American revolution
Of course Communism is retarded now because we can all basically live luxury and get iPhones but that doesn't change they had legitimate reasons for wanting to fight, and you can't fault a man for fighting what he believes in in persuit of a better life.
Daniel Morales
I suppose I could have been more specific. The world has changed dramatically in the last century. This particular shitpost was directed at unironic communist supporters in first world nations who, more often than not, have lived a life of luxury.
This. Back then the workers were pretty much modern slaves at the mercy of their employers who gladly took advantage of them in any way they could.
Asher Rodriguez
He isn’t making that assumption at all. Where did you get that ridiculous idea?
>being forced to work despite disability You retarded lefties and your retarded lefty nonsense. You really don’t understand anything do you? Life was harsh and has been for the entirety of history, except things are a lot better now thanks to free market capitalism and the huge amount of wealth and technology that’s come about as a result. Obviously you’ll find some retarded way of saying that’s bad because low IQ savages don’t make as much money as bill gates
>there were people sick of being trampled on by the aristocracy No that’s lefty propaganda. Most poor people didn’t support the communists in Russia
Adam Williams
T. Commie tier understanding of history
Aaron Stewart
> the amount of labor used sets the price for a product > use hundreds of man-hours to build some shit nobody wants > sells it for cheap after a while losing money on each sell HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE
Caleb Cruz
>No that’s lefty propaganda. Most poor people didn’t support the communists in Russia
>Fucking lefty xD Dumb retard you know literally nothing about my political beliefs. Just because I'm defending communist revolutionaries for wanting to fight doesn't mean I advocate for gommunism and not once have I said free market capitalism is bad, I even said now everyone basically lives in luxury because of it you seething little paranoid moron.
He's just low effort arguing against it because of his primitive mindset of HE PLAY DEVILS ADVOCATE HE MUST BE ENEMY UGG UGG no different than when you discuss Nazi Germany with a lefty
>the men who built my house own it >the grocery store owner is exploiting the farmer >if you buy anything on sale, you are exploiting the producer >If a 1,000 dollar suit helps me get a 10,000 dollar job, I own 9,000 to the tailor. >I get paid 10 to build a refrigerator the factory owner will sell for 100, so he stole me 90. But if he sells it for 1000 in a desert, he now owns me 900, but if he sells it for 9, I own him 1?
I am being used to Jow Forums being low IQ board, but sometimes I can't help but to reply. The 996 is perfect example and absolutely relevant why Marxist/Communist ideas are growing in popularity.
Samuel Watson
It's a ticklish sort of job making a thing for a thing-ummy-bob Especially when you don't know what it's for But it's the girl that makes the thing that drills the hole that holds the spring that works the thing-ummy-bob that makes the engines roar. And it's the girl that makes the thing that holds the oil that oils the ring that works the thing-ummy-bob that's going to win the war.
Jaxson Richardson
>little pay you got to be taxed by the King who lives in a city miles away from your hovel You're conflating industrialized society with feudal society, smooth brain. You're also ignorant of the fact that communism was not nearly the first or the most successful labor movement.
Kayden Wood
It's state owned.
Oliver Perry
>Implying you still didn't get taxed by royalty In England we still pay taxes to the crown so you've not got a clue what you're on about. Did you even pay attention to the fact I was talking about 1910s imperial russia?
Asher Robinson
>little pay you got to be taxed by the government who redistributes that wealth further between chosen modern-day aristocracy living on their private estates while you're seething over your home states turning into browned shitholes >his pea-brain does not realize that the browning of this country isn't some jewish conspiracy on a white man >his pea-brain does not realize that in order to drive mandatory yearly % growth you have to have uneducated low-paid labor >his pea-brain does not realize that raising it's own population and turning them into workers would require long time investment with so-so potential profit >his pea-brain does not realize that what's happening now is literal slave trade except slaves are coming in hordes willingly thinking they will be the lucky ones who made it to the top >his pea-brain does not realize that we live in a modern day feudalism that's self correcting through social proof of "I am next in line to become millionaire, that's why it's better than X in the past"
The Internal Troops of the Cheka and the Red Army practised the terror tactics of taking and executing numerous hostages, often in connection with desertions of forcefully mobilized peasants. According to Orlando Figes, more than 1 million people deserted from the Red Army in 1918, around 2 million people deserted in 1919, and almost 4 million deserters escaped from the Red Army in 1921.[20] Around 500,000 deserters were arrested in 1919 and close to 800,000 in 1920 by Cheka troops and special divisions created to combat desertions.[2] Thousands of deserters were killed, and their families were often taken hostage. According to Lenin's instructions,
After the expiration of the seven-day deadline for deserters to turn themselves in, punishment must be increased for these incorrigible traitors to the cause of the people. Families and anyone found to be assisting them in any way whatsoever are to be considered as hostages and treated accordingly.
Same scale?
Asher Gomez
>copy paste wiki article >let me tell you why some movement from 100 years ago was bad! >when you encounter violent action you MUST always respond with lesser and more timid force you brainlet! All the while >most likely living in a flat/house provided for free to his family or provided for free to the landlord by the said same government in the future I bet you think that voting will solve the corruption in Russia too and that muh communism was bad because of lack of freedom of speech.
Reffer to the post It's all nice and dandy having all the money you can make but it gets bit scary when you realize, that your situation resembles that of a luxury cabin on a sinking boat with no place to escape because even the last bastions of acceptable places to live gets slowly ruined by the very same ills that are taking root everywhere in the world.
Nicholas Cox
>Machine will probably be doing my job in a few years Yang yourself before you hang yourself.
Of course it did, it was the widespread adoption (and limited ownership) of new technologies (railroads, factories, etc.) that ultimately created a massive divide between workers and company owners. Tasks that were specialized or labor intensive were greatly simplified and automated, some of which could even be performed by children. Workers were easily replaceable and more efficient than ever, creating a small ruling class (known as Robber barons in America). not sure what happened in Europe though