28/M. In my first year of college now (spring start), studying to become electrical technician. I am doing ok in most courses except math. As always, just like high school, I am completely and utterly failing math. No matter how much I study I bomb every test. I studied over 7 hours total for an "Exponents and Radicals" test and I thought I had it but I completely bombed the test today. People much younger than me were handing the test in within 15 minutes of starting.
It's just no matter how much I try I can't understand math and even when I do I just forget all of it so can't do the tests. But I get B+ and A's in classes like Electrical Theory and Codes and Regulations.
God damnit I fucking hate my low IQ piece of shit brain. I'm so tired of seeing on facebook everyone I went to high school with becoming lawyers, therapists, teachers while I struggle with my first year of college at the age of 28.
I have a fiance and I love her, she's a teacher. She doesn't really care that I am lower status than her, but I do. I can see it being a real problem when we are late 30's or 40's if I am just some fucking security guard or laborer, having to go to family gatherings and other social functions and tell people what I do. So fucking embarrassing. Just makes me want to shoot myself in the head and be done with this shit life.
For background I guess I will say well I had a severely alcoholic father who abused me and never gave me a word of encouragement. Didn't have anywhere safe to do homework. I can't believe I actually managed to pass high school (just barely).
So what should I do? I would like to get an apprenticeship in a trade but unless you know someone you can't get one. It's impossible. I have asperger's which has really prevented me from building a network. Should I just hang myself and be done with all this? Don't want to grow old alone.
If you've got to ask and hype yourself for it like this, you wont. Change or suffer bitterly and die.
Dominic Gutierrez
And I'm sorry it's come to this for you. But you need to change your thinking or you will be miserable forever and then die. Do you want 50 more years of this kind of solitude? As you age, it only gets worse. Delete your facebook for starters. It avails you absolutely nothing and takes everything from you, as you've experienced.
Asher Robinson
Yeah, just change. I haven't heard that one before. In case you didn't read the whole thing I have asperger's which is literally unchangeable. It has caused me a lot of confusion and pain in life, if I had gotten diagnosed while I was young maybe I could have developed strategies to cope, but the damage is almost everlasting now, as I am so far behind in life compared to most.
There is nothing for me to "change". Society has changed, and for young men like me that are not book-smart we seem to simply be left behind to suffer and die or kill ourselves.
Dominic Cox
Yeah, let me lay out how to change yourself when you yourself have no clue at all. What the hell do you want to hear? Stay the fuck the same? Do you know what will happen to you on your current course? Fuck off if you're going to be such a prissy little bitch about it.
Asher Reyes
You have contributed nothing. How about you fuck off faggot?
Aiden Bennett
You still there OP? if so I'll give you advice
Julian Cox
Yup still here I've been crying for last 10 minutes, haven't felt this depressed since I was 15
Jacob Lopez
Dude Go into IT You're already a sperg so you'll fit right in, but since you have a fiance you can at least hold a conversation with people. You don't need to know math at all for most desktop support and admin functions. You can easily get an associate's and at least one, maybe two entry level certifications in two years' time. I'm sure the school you're at now offers IT degrees and probably preps for CompTIA, Microsoft, and Cisco certs. Everyone needs level one techs, from MSPs to consulting firms to big companies. You'll at least make nearly as much as your fiance right out the door. And fix your attitude man. My best friend shot himself in the head seven years ago and it still fucking breaks me down, I think about him every single day. That shit will destroy your family and your future wife, your friends. You think you're a failure? Fix it, and fix yourself. I'll tell you right now that I hire level one personnel in their 30s all the time, and no one cares. They made a change and tried to do better for themselves--what kind of degenerate is gonna give someone shit for that? That's what this whole idea was that you had with this degree, right? To do and be better? So you failed. Okay. Wipe the fucking tears off your face, get your shit right, and try something else (IT or not). Failure is okay, giving up is bullshit, and suicide is the most selfish, abhorrent thing someone can do to the people around them. Oh and I can talk shit like this bc I was in the same place at 25. I fucked up and couldn't handle law, fell into a bottle and thought about giving up too. It took me long years, while interning and working two other jobs plus school and certs, and here I am now, in a leadership position with an awesome life and relationship. But I had to have my brother sit me down and tell me to stop being a little bitch and fix it first. You can do it OP even if you are a fag.
Jace Russell
Is there a lot of math in IT programs? I looked into IT and talked to some people and they said not to do it because I haven't been doing it since I was young.
If there is math I just straight up can't do it.
Jeremiah Carter
Find something without math Don’t be another statistic, there’s always another option
In a couple of years or even months you can look back and be thankful you’re still here and on a different path, life can change very very quickly.
Blake Foster
>You don't need to know math at all for most desktop support and admin functions Read my first post again, crazy I share your being terrible at math, like, I had to retake the entry level math course THREE TIMES to pass. I'm currently in a sysadmin role with management responsibilities. There's no math in most of the field.
I am kind of pissed because people around me convinced me not to take computer/IT program. They pushed me into electrical engineering technician. Now they are mad I can't pass math.
I fucking hate life
Carson Gray
Yeah dude if you can use existing credits to get the prerequisite courses, that actually looks great especially being focused on Linux as much as it is. One thing I would ask them is if they offer courses that specifically focus on certs from CompTIA, Cisco, and Microsoft, or if they offer deals/certificate vouchers. If I saw that degree and a cert or two i would definitely take a deeper look at that resume.
Dylan Rodriguez
Ok I'm this guy First off finish crying it's ok to cry. Just don't ever show it to your fiance.
Anyhow, I'll try to help hope you are still here
>28/M. In my first year of college now (spring start), studying to become electrical technician. I am doing ok in most courses except math. As always, just like high school, I am completely and utterly failing math. No matter how much I study I bomb every test. I studied over 7 hours total for an "Exponents and Radicals" test and I thought I had it but I completely bombed the test today. People much younger than me were handing the test in within 15 minutes of starting.
Not everyone is the same. Yes you suck at Math but only now. It takes time man. Don't give a crap with younger generation being better than you. As a 31 year old guy most of my clients are younger gen y or zoomers (15-25 years old). I talked with them from time to time and I believe most if not all of them are more intelligent than I am. But it's ok because I know I am more hardworking. That's the key, hardwork and detrmination beats intelligence every single time. You suck at Math? Study and spend more time learning it.
>God damnit I fucking hate my low IQ piece of shit brain. I'm so tired of seeing on facebook everyone I went to high school with becoming lawyers, therapists, teachers while I struggle with my first year of college at the age of 28.
Kind of same as before but in another way. In my age most of the people I know have families and are married. Have more successful careers but bottom line is IDGAF. They chose that life and I'm going to choose mine. For instance, lawyer? I used to want to be one then I said fuck it, I'm going to be a rich mofo instead and hire one.
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Isaiah Rivera
Also take ownership for your decisions m80. No one made you do anything. You hate the world you live in because you lack command of it, and that starts with taking responsibility for your choices and not blaming others.
Joshua Martin
>I have a fiance and I love her, she's a teacher. She doesn't really care that I am lower status than her, but I do. I can see it being a real problem when we are late 30's or 40's if I am just some fucking security guard or laborer, having to go to family gatherings and other social functions and tell people what I do. So fucking embarrassing. Just makes me want to shoot myself in the head and be done with this shit life.
Dude you have someone who care for you. She being a teacher is nice as well. I would want to have a teacher gf. Anyhow, don't think of such negatives. Sure you are down now but that will not be the case in the future. Just keep on working on the path you want to be. Be better at it. In the end we can't predict whether we could become successful in the future but sometimes shit happens like next day you will be laid off. However if that happens, isn't it nice if you're girl will stick by you even then? When you are at the bottom and your girl is still there, she's a keeper.
>For background I guess I will say well I had a severely alcoholic father who abused me and never gave me a word of encouragement. Didn't have anywhere safe to do homework. I can't believe I actually managed to pass high school (just barely).
Forget about that man. I on the other hand has a kick ass dad. My friends always see he's the coolest dad. He's good looking and tall as well. But I'm on the ugly and manlet side. However, my dad is kind off lazy and my mom did all the work back when we were kids even until now. Each families have pros and cons and we have to look at the bright side even though it is hard. I know it sucks that you father is like that but make it your motivation. Like Lebron James doesn't have a dad.
Logan Ward
>So what should I do? I would like to get an apprenticeship in a trade but unless you know someone you can't get one. It's impossible. I have asperger's which has really prevented me from building a network. Should I just hang myself and be done with all this? Don't want to grow old alone.
Whatever happens, think of life as a phase. As I said, the future will be bright. Not everyday is a sad rainy day. After that the rain will shine. Most important thing is getting through these humps in life.
I'll be sleeping soon but if you want to talk more you can email me javiergerardoquinteros @ gmail.com
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Gavin Butler
Last thing on the IT bit, I would suggest that you check out some IT courses on YouTube, maybe check out Udemy or Codeacademy and try learning some basic windows command line/network topology/computer hardware to start. If that kind of shit doesn't interest you it might not be the right choice.
John Brown
You have aspergers and a fiance. If you were single I would say go for it, but it sounds like you still have something to live for.
Joseph Jones
I have made some bad decisions but I still cannot let go of some of the bitterness I have towards education system and my parents for not doing enough to help me when I was younger. I had straight A's up until high school. The asperger's and depression signed my academic death sentence, I got no support. It is hard to let go of this bitterness. So yeah, I do sort of blame the education system and my parents for not doing enough.
It could have been worse. I knew a lot of people that were better off than me who turned to drugs and alcohol. I am suicidal but have no interest in these things.
William Ross
Ok thanks, I will look into these things on YouTube this evening
Dominic Brooks
It is hard to forget about, the experiences and images are burned into my mind, like watching him abuse my sister and mother in alcoholic rages. Hard to get these things out of one's head. And the anger...sometimes I just wanna take him down with me.
Carson Sullivan
>It is hard Yes, but your post avoids addressing my central point: you must take responsibility and ownership for your decisions. People that were responsible for you as a child made shitty choices; OK, join the club. Are you going to live the rest of your life beneath your potential because of that? Are you going to continue to let your shitty father perpetually dictate your quality of life? The point I'm trying to make here is that you are still living in the shadow of shitty people who made shitty decisions. You're bitter and suicidal. Be your own man, take ownership of your life, and soon enough you'll have a desire to keep living it.
Thomas Turner
It's alright, dude. Keep on keeping on
Nolan Hughes
I will try. I have tried for a long time, seems no matter how hard I try I get nowhere.
Just don't see the point in being poor and low status in society. Death seems better option
Oliver Garcia
Go to West Texas my little user and join the oilfield as an electrician, it will put hair on your peaches and steel in your spine, there is always work there just don’t live there. I’m a tech and I can tell you I barely remember any damn formulas, techs generally don’t use them because you’re not a fucking engineer. Get through school even if you need to take remedial math.
Wyatt Robinson
I'm almost in the same position OP, I have no mathematical intuition whatsoever and started uni age 27 last year straight into mechanical eng. Right now I am struggling as well, I'm probably going to fail this semesters math topic (exam in a few weeks and I don't understand half the material)
But I look back at what I was when I left high school and I applied for the air force, I didn't get high enough in the first basic mental capacity test because I couldn't work out how to add/subtract fractions. Now I'm struggling with derivatives of trigonometric functions, inverse functions at what not.
Point is from your point of view you may think you're not making any progress but I guarantee you definitely are. The other thing is you have almost 10 years of living over the young whipper snappers in your class, you know what hard work means and can appreciate things they can't. With hard work you will get there, you said you worked 7 hours for this test you failed, could be that you're studying the wrong way or in a way that's not effective for you. Personally for me Khan academy videos really helped me get past obstacles in mathematical understanding.
I'll probably repeat this topic I'm failing now, however miserable I feel about it now. I'm older, slower, than the kids in my classes, like you. It just takes us a bit longer but we'll get there.
Brandon Bell
WHY DID YOU PICK A MATH HEAVY DEGREE THEN YOU DWEEB
YOU DONT GET TO KILL YOURSELF YOU PIECE OF SHIT
*sigh*
Just do Accounting, there is hardly any actual math in there but it is AMAZING for sperg types. You will have like a effect on your brain like you have a unlimited ritalin and kill it in accounting. You can eventually be a CFO and make 300K no joke, a CPA can make 100K and 800K with your own business.
Or be a lab technician, makes 60K you just have to be capable of doing repetitive tasks for 80 hours a week... oh yeah sperg! Awesome.
I think you can do your best and find a life even with crippling aspergers.
Kevin Murphy
geeez
*sigh*
Just do Accounting, there is hardly any actual math in there but it is AMAZING for sperg types. You will have like a effect on your brain like you have a unlimited ritalin and kill it in accounting. You can eventually be a CFO and make 300K no joke, a CPA can make 100K and 800K with your own business.
Or be a lab technician, makes 60K you just have to be capable of doing repetitive tasks for 80 hours a week... oh yeah sperg! Awesome.
I think you can do your best and find a life even with crippling aspergers.
Ryder Cook
Why shouldn't I be able to kill myself? What is it with people hating on suicide so much? Some of us just aren't meant to succeed in this world. Let us leave.
Chase Anderson
Here is a 74 video series for free that covers everything you need to obtain A+ Computer Technician certification. This is pretty much considered a decent first step into IT. From there you can decide if you want to go into security, networking, system admin, database, server, etc.
Now this should link you to the most respected book for passing the test as well which is by Mike Meyers. If you want A+ you have to take 2 exams, but like the other poster was saying, IT itself requires little to no complex math unless you go for something specific.
Good rec, Meyers series got me through A+ and Network+. Also dude has a funny, approachable personality that makes his training easy and enjoyable to watch, he uses really in depth visual aids and has a gift for teaching.
Angel Howard
An Hero before it gets any worse.
Owen Turner
didn't read, but suicide is literally ALWAYS the answer ofc go ahead
Mason Hill
Yeah seems like the answer more and more
Grayson Lopez
What the fuck kind of cunts are you What are you good at OP ?
Jace Price
>She doesn't really care that I am lower status than her, but I do. There's your problem. If you really are on the spectrum like you claim, your learning difficulties are innate. There's a decent chance you will never hold a high prestige job. In spite of this, you found somebody that loves you anyway. That SHOULD be enough and learning to accept yourself for what you are the same way she does should be your top priority.
Elijah Wilson
>studied over 7 hours total You fucking retard, if you need to start studying well in advance of a test. I used to be shit at math too, but you just have to practice. What I would do is go through the homework with help/resources and then try to go through it again with less and less help until I basically memorize the steps.
Isaiah White
Fuck off if you're gonna call me names, I know I am retarded you don't need to remind me
Kevin Ortiz
I don't know if you're still here, this is OP. Could you recommend a video or resource describing a typical day in an entry level or intermediate job in the field?
Jeremiah Diaz
math isn't for everyone
Aiden Wright
"Oh no he called me a name!" Yeah focus on that instead of taking any advice given to you in this thread. You overthink things too much and create excuses/problems where they don't exist because it's easier and feels good to wallow.
Freshman year I took calculus 1 and got a D, which didn't count towards my requirement. A D in a class that many people easily passed in highschool, I felt like a complete retard and also came to the conclusion that I was hopeless in math. Then when I retook it I actually learned how to study correctly and ended up with an A once I retook the class.
The professors and lecturers probably have office time for you to visit too if you want additional explanation or want them to check your practice problems, that's saved my ass a couple times. Talking about suicide when you have a fiance who cares about you, talk about selfish. If you actually love her then put in the fucking work. There are total shut in spergs here who have a greater mental fortitude than you so drop this nonsense.
Lucas Lee
>I know I am retarded you don't need to remind me and also a fag, lest you forget.
Landon Fisher
… is 7 hours of studying really considered much for a subject you suck in? If you "got it" one day you have to make sure you still get it the next day and the day after. Or is it like a weekly test? With little knowledge of math it is clear that 7 Hours for a subject like "Exponents and Radicals " is realy not enough.
Summery: You just have to study more again.
Ayden Williams
Suicide is not the answer. The answer is to focus on the things you are good at and make the most of those, not beat yourself up over the things you're not good at. Your expectations of yourself are too high. Stop demanding perfection from yourself and accept that math is not your strong point, then focus on what is. I'm not all that good at math, but I have worked as a programmer and I've moved on from that now to do things that I find more rewarding. Math is not the most important thing in the world for every individual and it doesn't need to be. Just concentrate on what is good about you, and you can also learn math in your own time, on your own terms, without all that pressure to perform and so on.
The reason you're scared of growing old alone is because you've been told that this is losing, and because you're a perfectionist and demand such a high standard of yourself, this is why you can't accept a situation that implies you are losing or have lost.
Life is not that kind of game, though. You can win it. And I could help you, but since this place is anonymous and all, I doubt our paths would ever cross so I could give you that help. I hope you can find somebody in this world who will give you the help you need. They are out there. Just be sure not to be too hasty to push them away when you find them.
Leo Collins
Lol I'd love to find out where you live and fuck your ass up.
Andrew Wright
Genuinely curious, whats your IQ? Approx if necessary
Sebastian Thomas
I'm sure you would faggot but I'd just bash you.
Nolan Garcia
>can't math >have tried "everything"
if you bomb a test in math it's because you don't understand what you're doing. math is literally following directions; solve this equation by using these rules you've learned so far. If you're not getting it, continuing to study on your own wont help, get a tutor, speak with your professor, figure out what you're missing, get your shit together. That said, I failed college algebra my first time. I went to my professor after the term, we figured out what I was doing wrong, i retook the class and got an A-.
also stop comparing yourself to people you went to high school with. most people i know from high school are in jail, and I'm not much better because i'm in crippling debt and have considered turning to crime multiple times in order to fix it.
