Neo-Nazis are not National Socialists

Checked. Glad to see another user of sound mind itt.

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No one cares what brand of Nazi y'all are. You're all just Nazis.

socialism was popular then for a reason. care to take a guess?

Nazi is actually the deliberately made smear term you Bolshevik sympathizer and considering your tripfaggotry and commie flag, you're really just a zionist that doesn't even realize you're a pawn that would be discarded and shot in the back of the head once your purpose is served.

I know, it just didn't age well. I'm thinking it had to do with Ghandi.

bump

lol

or capitalism fucking up and causing a great depression

Probably both things really since as Hitler saw it, America was already in the grips of the international jew and that was much of the cause of the depression and Ghandi wrote a letter to Hitler and spoke well of him. Ghandi, being set against the British Empire which was also already in the grips of the international jew(Rothschild), almost certainly played a part in the titling.

Bumparooni

The DAP was the group hitler joined and where he learned how to orate about jews, essentially his pol moment. The DAP was originally going to be called DSAP, S for socialism. The idea was to gather voters from the left by pretending to be socialist.

After hitler joined, he essentially riled up other people enough that they could go legit, they rebranded and made a formal party from the small group of autists it originally was. The DAP became the NSDAP. The Nationalist Socialist Deutche Arbeiterpartei. Hitler opposed it, but the same logic was applied to this branding change.

Later on, hitler would speak how he was not a socialist, but essentially defining socialism for germany. The economic policies of the NSDAP were right-wing, and included privatization of many publicly owned companies. NSDAP was against unions.

The privatization of the economy by the nazis were conditional. It was the underlying belief of hard nationalism, of germany in a struggle against other nations that made NSDAP demand that industries would be private, but subject to the will of the nation state. It was as much an ideological thing as about the war effort.

In 1930, Otto Strasser was a man fighting for ideas he believed the national SOCIALIST WORKER'S party would support. He was kicked from the party by hitler, who accused him of heretical democracy, no joke. Ottos brother was assassinated later by the NSDAP for similar ideas.

The only true part of socialism they took was the class struggle, the stance of the workers against the elite, the common good over the individual. This was to implement the idea of race struggle, aryans against others. The good of the nation over the indivídual. This was the rethoric of the NSDAP.

If any of you brainlets made it this far, I'm gonna tell you something. Bernie sanders is not a socialist either. He's a social democrat. It's a mixed economy situation, not socialist economics. Welfare is not socialism.

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OP is right on the money here

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>memeflag but good post for the most part
Strange times, thanks nonetheless.
Cheers lad.

>for the most part
Everything i said is true.

I believe you. I believe that you believe that. But the thing is Bernie wants to give everyone free college and that shit is just not feasible. As such I have to disagree with you on what you included in your closing.

Nazi actually comes from the italian word for national, Nazionale though no one ever really mentions it.

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the use of "Nazi Germany" and "Nazi regime" was popularised by anti-Nazis and German exiles abroad.
The term was in use before the rise of the party as a colloquial and derogatory word for a backward peasant, an awkward and clumsy person. It derived from Ignaz, a shortened version of Ignatius, which was a common name in the Nazis' home region of Bavaria. Opponents seized on this, and the long-existing Sozi, to attach a dismissive nickname to the National Socialists.
But you knew that already you fucking kike.

because of the jewish 1% owning everything and fucking everyone over?

sound familiar

Free college is feasible, it's done by every other western nation. What makes america so impotent? You can't hate niggers more than you want to help white america. Reverse trump's latest tax bill and you can pay for free college twice and have money over. What I said is true regardless of how desperately you want to hate welfare as socialism.

Welfare is a critical part of the economy. Removing economic burden from the lower and middle classes means they have more money to spend. That money can then be spent locally, meaning local economy is stronger. When the reverse is true, when people spend all their money on rent, healthcare, and education, they can't contribute to a local economy. This means businesses need to move towards population centers. This is why rural towns and cities are dying, people don't have the money to spend to sustain an economy. It doesn't work if money doesn't flow, and money doesn't flow if it just goes towards the corporatist neoliberals and neocons. Half a century of stagnant wages under neoliberal dems and neocon republicans, they are not capable or willing to fix the problem.

>it's done by every western nation
What's your point? They don't have anywhere near the same mass and amount of people. I'm well aware about how welfare to low iq populations results in the welfare money being reinvested back into economy sooner rather than later. It's already going on.

You haven't even formed an argument. "Oh we have more people" doesn't cut it.

We have a healthcare system where an entire industry based on monetizing letting as many people sufffer and die as they can get away with is inserted between patient and care. Half the country is one medical emergency away from financial crisis. Most people can't handle an unexpected 500$ bill. Young people are going into insane debt to get education for jobs that don't exist. Young people can't get into the middle class, can't buy houses, can't establish families.

The reason why white replacement rate is below 2 is because they have the ability to plan for the future. Kids are an enormous economic burden that most people simply decide not to carry. The undermining of welfare, the undermining of the lower and middle classes is the reason why the country is suffering. Further austerity will just lower growth further, not lift the economic burden. 80% of the advantage of trump's tax bill over 10 years goes to the owner class. People don't get more economic power by giving less to the state, but by not getting gouged by the cost of living, having a wage that competes with productivity and profits.

Where does the money we pay israel and the military budget come from? There's endless unaccounted for money for that, but you want to give people some economic freedom suddenly it's expensive and think of the deficit scaremongering. You are being jewed, and you hate the solution.

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>Population size taken into account when giving away college isn't a valid concern
Wew lad. Yea, nah.
>and you hate the solution
No, not at all. I don't hate the solution a bit. I would love to see the aid to the false Israel cut off and used for the betterment of our people and nation. Kys for trying to put words in my mouth faggot.

You implied you think bernie is a socialist, that welfare is socialism.

Again, population size, it's not an argument. Cost is largely irrelevant. If we want it, we will find a way to invest our money in education.

"The average net public return across OECD countries from providing a male student with a university education, after factoring in all the direct and indirect costs, is almost USD 52,000, nearly twice the average amount of money originally invested."

Sounds expensive.

Neocons can always find a way to increase military spending when they are in office. Trump increased the OCO budget by 140% to 164 billion, it's was supposed to be a temporary fund for the afghan war but it's not subject to budget caps. They are literally bypassing congress to fund war.

Another reminder. Trump was sitting with israeli lobbyists and asked what he could do. They said, recognise the Golan Heights. Trump replied "Boom, done" and sat back with his arms crossed. This is the master of negotiation, author of the art of the deal. Savior of white america. He does it for free.

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You can't just wave your hands and say population size is not an argument. You aren't slick either trying to shoehorn in the other stuff and it's funny how you try to say I implied something when here you are going off on a tangent as if you perceive me as something I'm not. It figures that over time you, the memeflaggot, would reveal himself as matching the usual expectation. Don't use my thread to pole vault off of you lazy faggot. Make your own.

I mean, if you don't even TRY to make an argument, i can't do much more than try to infer what your problem is. I addressed the cost issue, which is my guess. That's the angle that the DNC and GOP take on it, so you're probably in that headspace. Also, the other stuff is to show how trump isn't gonna help someone who is natsoc, which, you know.. this thread is. I'm trying to get you to understand why being a neonazi isn't helping, and the only thing that will help is standing up to corporatists. I wish there was a candidate on the left who was more nationalist and more conservative in social values, but there's nothing like that in any country afaik. All those parties disappeared because of NSDAP poisoning that well. I've seen a bunch of comments outside of pol asking why they don't exist, though. Bernie is the closest to fighting the establishment has come in decades.

Cute that you're scared of me being a discord tranny, but there's nobody reading my comments but you.

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I never accused you of being a discord tranny. I said itt that I'm ok with cutting off aid to Israel and you accuse me of being a kike? Projection as usual. Kys memeflaggot. I can't stand how you fuckers just constantly try to twist the context so blatantly. It really makes it easy to hate you. Big time.

I'm not accusing you of being a kike. You're calling me a memeflag, that's you wondering who could be behind these posts. You're retarded dude. Keep wallowing in the neonazi mire. Apologies for extending a hand to a brainlet.

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neo-nazis are a fringe of edgy retards.
lets not pretend they have a refined political position beyond "send all the niggers back to africa"
doesn't matter anyway because they are clearly riding in on the coat tails of a socialist they idolize

>The reason why white replacement rate is below 2 is because they have the ability to plan for the future.
>hur dur people in the US never had kids before we had communized medic...oh, wait...
Why are all communists nigger-tier retarded?

good thread
people need to learn that Neo-Nazis have almost nothing in common with National Socialists
also that a 'nazi' is not a good term to describe National Socialist (and people calling themselves nazis are retarded and/or don't know history)

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You're the one that's fucking retarded because my original point in my OP points out neo-nazis as the controlled opposition they are while showing that National Socialists are not the same as them. How the flying fuck did you miss that? You didn't. You're just trying to deflect from taking responsibility for your shit. Kys.
Fucking hell. Read the damn OP before you reply you fucking faggots. You aren't even on topic with relevance and just making huge incorrect assumptions probably on purpose too.

Checked. Cheers m8.

That's not what I said or meant. People don't have kids because they recognize the economic burden of having kids in this society where wages are continually depressed despite soaring corporate profits. It's obviously more complex, but that's the largest problem. The culture problem is big too.

You're right. I was just assuming since you believe in natsoc that you're neonazi, since that's what a neonazi is. Your point is that natsoc is just a bad name, and you want a different label to put on your hat. My critique is still poignant. Natsoc is not a name. It's a set of bad ideas that won't help in the near term. If you want to make a difference, you shouldn't abandon socialist from natsoc, you should abandon natsoc for national social democracy, vote bernie in, work to make a nationalist movement, and realize 14. I'm not worried about labels, but results.

gonna add i missed it cause i've had the arguiment about how the nazis were or were not socialists before more than once.

>abandon natsoc
>for natsocdem
>vote Bernie in
>to realize the 14

Bro you're legitimately trying to advertise a social democrat that easily would denounce any kind of ethnic nationalism. Your line of reasoning may follow for you, but it doesn't for Bernie.

>im worried about results
And yet you are advertising for a flip-flopping pseudo-socialist that scammed his grass root followers and bowed to the political machine that prevents any actual results in our government? You make no sense.

Again, this is nigger tier retarded. People had way more kids before most of the communist reforms the west has in place today. The evidence says not only that you are wrong, but that you are 180 degrees off.

A(((social democrat))), let's not forget.

Vote BERNIE in......oh how he is thie
MElaineBolynn
12/10/2016 7:34 PM EST
Yes. The whole story is made-up garbage that the alt-right concocted to to disgrace Hillary Clinton and her Democrat friends who own the restaurant. If you don't believe WaPo, perhaps you and people like you should hire someone you deem reliable and neutral to investigate the story. I'm sure there are many Republicans in Congress who would support an investigation and maybe even pay for it. But if an independent investigator comes back and reports that the story is completely false, will you accept that answer? Probably not because you don't want to know the truth. Facts mean nothing to people like you. Why do you even bother to read WaPo if you suspect them lying? Just stick to Fox and Breitbart where you'll get your conspiracy fix.r only savior

What you're doing with your post is the old Jewish trick of pilpul and distractions by division. Whites unite, don't fight. Your true enemy is the Jew and everyone against you.

You're all the same dumb faggots that go against the wall along with the commies.

No no no...it is because we are white and you know it.

Bullshit. It's no secret that the top leaders of the white supremacist gangs in prison had jewish leaders. Probably mossad deep undercover. Uniting is encouraged, but if the person has been spoiled by incorrect information then that must be addressed. What you just did is actually an example of what you just said because you leapt to an incorrect conclusion and used that as your basis for saying anything further.

and I'm well aware that my enemy is the zionists.
You aren't going to do shit faggot. Shut the fuck up.

>that is functionally a hell of a a lot more like capitalism

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Yeah, that's why, the thing you removed is the important part. Once we can fix the economy, once we can destroy the establishment parties that put us in this position, change can actually happen. A nationalist candidate is not gonna win as a dem, and on the right they're gaslighting like trump. How are you gonna make literally anything happen by electing another status quo puppet?

Hold on. A flip-flopping pseudo-nationalist that scammed his grass root followers and grovelled before the GOP, creating a 12-year high in immigration numbers?

Only one of us can be right. Since trump is not gonna work, i'm gonna bet on the guy who has been running independent for decades, who is targeted by the DNC, by all the neoliberal political machines like CAP, by MSM. He's consistent, and he's gonna fight for wealth redistribution. It doesn't matter if he's a jew if we can stop the status quo decline of white america.

I know, but that's also not a realistic way to fix the problem. You can't make america amish, become farmers, have kids that are free labor. The rate fell quickly because of industrialization, and it's sinking further, not because muh gommunist feminism spooks, but because it's literally too expensive for the new generation. How many posts haven't you seen about women posting their dogs as their babies?

The people who have been the establishment, who have imposed this culture on america are neoliberals and neocons. They aren't communists, you retarded monkey.

Yes, culture needs to change. How can culture change if we don't fight for keeping white people around in the first place? Get the priority straight. It's not about hating what's true now, it's about getting to a better point. Stop prioritizing your fragile feels over reals.

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>twisting the context by cutting off the details
"that is functionally a hell of a a lot more like capitalism with self-restraint for the sake of the people and nation." Gradually, I began to hate them..

Truth
Commie mods and leftypol raids cant deal with it

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