How can christians defend their position?

How can christians defend their position?

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No pastors would say that, praying isn't wishing upon a star

The bible and Church say the complete opposite - that God will give you what your immortal soul needs, not a new fucking 65" television so you can watch the brother/sister fucking on Game of Thrones.

What does the immortal soul need?

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Wisdom

I'll pray for you, Op. Cuz you need some suffering and ass kicking.

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It means that God won't actually do anything meaningful to help you, but you're more than welcome to ask (but not receive). Praying is apparently more about building a relationship with God. But why would I want to be friends with an all-powerful being that's letting me slowly die a painful death from an incurable illness? If he wants to be my friend, he can text me and send me universe console commands so I can get rid of this goddamn pain

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Ask for good things

why is being a girl a bad thing

So what's the maximum size television I could ask for, realistically speaking?

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Also holy fuck, this captcha system is pure cancer. I miss just typing alphabet soup

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>god needs to act the way i want him to, or else i dont give a shit!!!
this is a bad argument for not believing btw. if you are wrong the god would still send you to hell. at least come up with a better reason. im an atheist myself before you freak out like a faggot normie

Stop giving this mongoloid so much attention, reddit.

So we should obey god because otherwise hell punish us? So your argument is pascals wager?

Prosperity "gospel" preachers are so full of shit anyway, look how many devout biblical figures were poor as hell and lived lives filled with hardship.

>How can christians defend their position?
What the person is asking for is anti-Logos. It'd be like asking God for a harem of sluts and plentiful weed. It's not according to the logic and natural law of the universe. These things are sensations that lead you to abandon the right way of living, which is designed for happiness, not sensual pleasures and fantasies (which always end in misery for the person themselves and also those engaging with him).

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>How can christians defend their position?
Trannies are mentally ill. God doesn't answer to the people, the people answer to God.

Asking for plentiful weed wouldn't necessarily be opposed to God if you were growing it yourself and prayed for a bountiful harvest, I'd bet it's just another crop as far as He's concerned, but He's not just going to make a pound brick fall from the sky for you.

>why is being a girl a bad thing
Sex change is biologically impossible. Transsexuals are mentally ill.

>So we should obey god because otherwise hell punish us?
You deserve hell for your sins. You should obey God because God is right and just. God gave you a way to remove the sins from your soul.

>Prosperity "gospel" preachers are so full of shit anyway
Indeed. That's why you only see them on the TalmudVision.

so its bad because its biologically impossible? Could you explain this moral judgement to me?

im not saying that. learn to read nigger. but if god is real then yea that would be how you act. wouldnt you literally be scared of a god that can send you to hell forever? pretending that isnt scary doesnt make you cool kiddo. that would be the worst thing ever for anyone.

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>You deserve hell for your sins
why
>God is right and just
why

>so its bad because its biologically impossible? Could you explain this moral judgement to me?
Transsexualism bad because it's a mental illness, it's a lie and it's not treated as a mental illness.

God created a person as EITHER a man OR a woman and it is impossible to "change" one's sex.

yeah ure misread that sorry

>why
Because your sins are an affront to God.

>why
Because He is God.

eh
look at this dude
tell me
eh
whats makes a psychological condition an illness? is it perhaps the fact that its bad?
Circular reasoning bam tell me why its wrong nigga

>Because He is God.
so?

>whats makes a psychological condition an illness?
The fact that you're living a lie and you want to mutilate yourself.

>is it perhaps the fact that its bad?
Transsexualism is bad.

You can't prove that trannies are good, natural or normal.

>so?
So therefore He makes the rules. You're not God. Why do you act as if you know better than God?

I'm not an atheist, I just don't bother praying since it's pointless. I love my dude Jesus, but I'm not going to pretend he actually listens to me

>but I'm not going to pretend he actually listens to me
Why do you think God doesn't hear you?

un-Augustine pilled.
Semi-pelagianism was btfo 1500 years ago.

>please magical genie make me a girl
praying to God only gives you the strength of will not magical wishes

>"pls gawd. make a billion dollars appear in front of me!"
>*doesn't happen*
>"GAWD HATES ME! GOD DOESN'T EXIST! GOD IS A POOPYHEAD!"
>*God facepalms*

Pastor: ask and ye shall recieve
Me: please god kill that guy I hate
Pastor: wait not like that.

You see my tranny friend , although sucking dick has clouded your mind , there are things religion is for and things its against. If you would ask for example help with overcoming your mental illness and finding the right path back to normality, the church could actually help you with that. If you ask something that is against the moral values of christianity , such as this degenaracy you described , your pastor is sure to be against.
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every mental illness is "living a lie"? eh i dont think so
>mutilate yourself
What exactly is wrong with this? muh nature?
>living a lie
What lie? gender is different from sex, and we know we are not completely biologically female
>Transsexualism is bad.
again why?

>You can't prove that trannies are good
prove they are bad
>natural
fallacy
>normal
normal is different from good

Why does god disapproving of something make it morally wrong

>Liberal: Please God help me sin!
>God: lolno

/thread

Because God makes the rules.

Stop looking for ways to justify your mental illness. It isn't working.

Because God is all knowing

this, how are trannyes so retarded

niggerkin unironically pray for God to acquit their repeat offender sons every time the dindunuthin

Based and op is a fag pilled

>every mental illness is "living a lie"? eh i dont think so
The mental illnesses of transgenderism and homosexuality are living a lie.

>What exactly is wrong with this? muh nature?
There's nothing wrong with chopping off your genitals and adding "new" ones? You're really saying that?

>What lie?
That you can become something you're not.

> gender is different from sex,
No it's not. You're either male or female. Period.

>and we know we are not completely biologically female
Oh you're a tranny. I see. Your genes and DNA will always read as male.

>again why?
Because it's a mental illness being promoted as natural and normal.

>prove they are bad
They chop off their genitals and live a lie.

>fallacy
Bullshit.

>normal is different from good
You're not normal nor good.

this aint going anywhere
so lets say god decided we should murderrape all babies alive right now
would that be right

>Why does god disapproving of something make it morally wrong
Because God is 100% right 100% of the time. God is Perfect. God knows better than you.

>this aint going anywhere
That's because you deny God

>so lets say god decided we should murderrape all babies alive right now
Why would God decide that? Why are you implying you know God's thought process?

Why are you trying to claim that God is somehow evil?

>There's nothing wrong with chopping off your genitals and adding "new" ones? You're really saying that?
yes can you logically prove to me there's anything wrong with that?
>That you can become something you're not.
nobody is becoming a biological female lmao look at this dude
>No it's not. You're either male or female
then why does gender identity sometimes differ from biological sex
>b-but it doesnt count because its an illness
lmao
>Oh you're a tranny. I see. Your genes and DNA will always read as male.
not denying that
>Because it's a mental illness being promoted as natural and normal.
see above
>They chop off their genitals and live a lie.
see above
>fallacy
ok then prove that naturality implies goodness

>Why are you trying to claim that God is somehow evil
But if morality comes from god god cannot be evil no matter what he does.

>yes can you logically prove to me there's anything wrong with that?
Yes. It's wrong. Just like if you wanted to chop off your arm or your leg.
If you see nothing wrong with that you're too mentally ill to even attempt to reason with.

>nobody is becoming a biological female lmao look at this dude
Now you're just making shit up to cover the fact that you're losing. you trannies believe that sex/gender is a spectrum and that whatever sex/gender you want to be you automatically are.

>then why does gender identity sometimes differ from biological sex
That statement is a lie.

>lmao
Not an argument.

>not denying that
Then you will always be male and no amount of makeup, clothing, and surgery will change that.
you're living a lie.

>ok then prove that naturality implies goodness
Because God created nature and God is good.

But God cannot sin. Are protestants realy this retarted?

>But if morality comes from god god cannot be evil no matter what he does.
Correct.
Why do you think what God does is evil though?
You're putting your own views of morality on God.

Why do you think you know better than God?

God made you a man. Why are you trying to undo what God has done?

>Are protestants realy this retarted?
OP is a God hating trannie. OP is not a Christian.

>mental illness
LMAO THE ABSOLUTE STATE
>nobody is becoming a biological female lmao look at this dude
noody claimed that biological sex doesnt exist lmao dude spend some time reading out theory instead of reading Jow Forums memes about it ok sis That statement is a lie.
then why do people transition? This is a fact. Whether transitioning is right or wrong is one thing, but you cant deny that gender dysphoria is a thing. want proof? go to Jow Forumsasktransgender or some shit
>Then you will always be male and no amount of makeup, clothing, and surgery will change that.
BIOLOGICALLY, in fact sex is not male or female its xx or xy get btfo
>Because God created nature and God is good.
see

Probably because I suffer severe incurable, untreatable nerve pain every day and will likely never be able to live a normal life. I spent years getting down on my knees and praying but God never did a thing except allow it to get worse. Either God doesn't have the capacity to listen to all of us at once, or He's literally just ignoring us. People say their prayers are answered, but I've never seen one answered myself that actually looked like God personally intervened.

>imagine needing PROOF for FAITH
wew lad. Deep shit

>LMAO THE ABSOLUTE STATE
Just because you act like an idiot, that doesn't prove transsexualism isn't a mental illness.

>noody claimed that biological sex doesnt exist lmao dude
saying "lmao dude" doesn't prove your statement.

>spend some time reading out theory instead of reading Jow Forums memes about it ok sis then why do people transition?
People can't "transition". You're not a woman because you claim you are.

>This is a fact.
No, claiming you're a woman when you're really a man doesn't make you a woman.

>but you cant deny that gender dysphoria is a thing
It is a thing. That doesn't make them right or that sex change is possible.

> want proof? go to Jow Forumsasktransgender or some shit
I don't ask the mentally ill for their opinions on their mental illness.

>BIOLOGICALLY, in fact sex is not male or female its xx or xy get btfo
Now you're just using bullshit trannie talking points. You're claiming that sex/gender is made up.

>see
Anything that God does is good. Your personal morals/beliefs don't trump God's truth.

>Probably because I suffer severe incurable, untreatable nerve pain every day and will likely never be able to live a normal life
Well I'm sorry that you have to go through that. Just know that God still loves you and God is still with you. Yes, even right now.

>I spent years getting down on my knees and praying but God never did a thing except allow it to get worse.
How do you know God didn't answer your prayer and stopped it from being even worse than what it currently is?

How do you know that God doesn't have a plan for your life that includes this trial you're going through?

>Either God doesn't have the capacity to listen to all of us at once, or He's literally just ignoring us.
Why do you think God answers to you?

>People say their prayers are answered, but I've never seen one answered myself that actually looked like God personally intervened.
Did you ever think the answer to those prayers was "no"?

God won't just give you something just because you wish for it. He's not like a dad spoiling his brat.

>God won't just give you something just because you wish for it. He's not like a dad spoiling his brat.
Can you imagine the chaos if God said "yes" to everyone who prayed to win the lottery?

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>Just because you act like an idiot, that doesn't prove transsexualism isn't a mental illness.
check my previous posts posts nigger
>You claiming the evidence proving you exists but I have to go out and find it myself doesn't mean you're telling the truth.
well shit dude either way its irrelevant because u never claimed that you could change biosex
>People can't "transition". You're not a woman because you claim you are.
you are missing the point lmao dude WHY do poeople transition could it be that they indentify as the gender they were not assigned
>It is a thing. That doesn't make them right or that sex change is possible.
sure one thing doesnt imply the other
>I don't ask the mentally ill for their opinions on their mental illness.
i was talking about having a diferent identity retard lmao
>Now you're just using bullshit trannie talking points. You're claiming that sex/gender is made up.
no im claiming sex and gender are diferent and one thing is irellevant to the other same thing ive been claiming
>Anything that God does is good. Your personal morals/beliefs don't trump God's truth.
why

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>this thread
>these are really the kind of "people" we have to deal with
if a person has no self awareness, is it really a person.

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>check my previous posts posts nigger
I don't accept your attempts to justify your mental illness.

>WHY do poeople transition
Because they're mentally ill and they think "transitioning" will justify and normalize their mental illness.

>could it be that they indentify as the gender they were not assigned
Them claiming they "identify" is a sign of their mental illness.

If someone identifies as a duck, that doesn't make them a duck.

>i was talking about having a diferent identity
You can't have a different identity.

>no im claiming sex and gender are diferent
And they're not. You're lying.

>why
Because you're not God. He is. Why are you claiming to know better than God?

>well fuck him
So you say "fuck God" and you think you deserve to go to Heaven for that?

Why should God accept you when you deny and hate Him?

>i want to be a girl
You can't be a girl. Ever. You wanting to be a girl when you can't ever be a girl proves you're mentally ill.

This, you don't pray for results you pray for courage to attain your own

I firmly believe prayer works, I’ve had medical issues simply disappear after much prayer and have known others in which hopeless situations worked out after prayer. If you pray without believing I’m not sure it’ll work. Also, whatsup with all this “gotcha” nonsense in religious topics lately?

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>nigger he is b8ng you.
OP is a tranny attempting to justify his mental illness and his hatred of God for being a tranny.

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Ok dude ill go slowly. Ok
lets assume hey are mentally ill
what is their mental illness
indentifying as the other gender than the one assigned at birth is it not
if they indentify as another gender then sex is different from gender
refute this
>Because you're not God. He is. Why are you claiming to know better than God?
because i want to be biologically a girl and he didnt fucking do it fuck him

This. I think it's a bot designed to be annoying. Either way he has it down great! Says nothing engaging and just dismisses anything critical. I've seen it around earlier and a similar style in "smartest pol user" threads. He never posts any kind of substantial evidence to anything it says tho. Maybe a product of some research group even. Kinda cool I guess.

I can. Come at me bitch.

oh and hummmm if their mental illness is identifying as another gender you cant calim you cant identify as another gender because thats what they do

Etymology of the word gender. Go.

>ask and you shall receive
isn't a magic genie giving you 3 wishes

>word games
yeah dude whatever call it something else

Even God is powerless to match the delusion of trannies

>what is their mental illness
Believing that they're a different gender/sex than how they were born.

A desire to change their birth gender/sex.

Acting as a different gender/sex than which they were born.
>if they indentify as another gender then sex is different from gender
>refute this
I dismiss the claim that what you're saying is the truth. Therefore I don't have to refute your fallacies.

>because i want to be biologically a girl
Well you're not a girl and never will be a girl.

>and he didnt fucking do it
Because God doesn't answer to you. God is not going to cater to your sin.

>fuck him
You hate God because you believe your mental illness trumps God's Will. You believe God answers to you and not the other way around.
Your hatred of God and your inability to accept God into your life is why you will go to Hell when you die.

>oh and hummmm if their mental illness is identifying as another gender you cant calim you cant identify as another gender because thats what they do
Your reasoning is flawed and I don't have to accept it.

See what I mean? Its super dismissive of real points.

>yeah dude whatever call it something else
You're doing everything you can to justify your mental illness and your denial of God.

Don't get pissed because we don't agree with you.

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>falacies
yeah dude ummm you can deny my premisses but i didnt commit any fallacy you on the other hand are abusing appeals to auhority and appeals to nature

anyway so your saying they are only acting as though they are the other gender but whats the gender difference between a biowoman acting as a woman and a bioman acting as a woman. Are you saying theres some psychological essence we are born with

ok let me formalize this for you find the fallacy
a then b
a (trans people exist)
~b
FALLACY

how is etymology a point lmao

well i actually formalized your reasoning lmao

I .God created the angels.

2. God made a place of suffering-Hell.

3. God placed Hell as a price on sin if the angels sinned.

4. The angels were fully warned.

5. One-third of those angels sinned.

6. God had no choice but to do what He said He would do.

7. God made man.

8. Satan came to man and wanted to drag man to the Hell where he was going.

9. Satan persuaded man to do what he had done and commit the same sin he had committed.

10. The price had already been set.

11. God had to let man go to Hell, though Hell was not prepared for man.

12. God was willing to break up the Godhead for 33 years so that man could be freed.

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>but i didnt commit any fallacy
Said the mentally ill God hater.

>but whats the gender difference between a biowoman acting as a woman and a bioman acting as a woman.
Genes. DNA. Birth. Sexual organs. Reality.

>Are you saying theres some psychological essence we are born with
I'm saying you became mentally ill over time due to your personal experiences. You're becoming even more mentally ill with your refusal to treat your mental illness.

You became mentally ill sometime in your life.
You hate your birth gender/sex.
You blame god for not being the gender/sex your mental illness claims you "should" be.
Therefore you lump all your anger, frustration and hate on God instead of lumping all that anger, frustration and hate on yourself and your mental illness.