Incels

I think it goes much deeper than that.

Radical feminists are up in arms because according to them, under patriarchy, a whole bunch of "undesirable" men got to reproduce.
Fast forward to today where feminist ideology rules, women (especially young women) go with a guy based off his looks/ genetics & as you've spoken before, they don't go with the "provider" till about 30-35. Therefore imo porn was created as a substitute for the real thing that undesirables can COPE with.

Why is it that worldwide there are so many brothels, hookers, porn etc predominantly catering to/ for men? Simply put, there is a demand for it.
I highly doubt in this "sexualized" environment that good looking/ high tier men would even bother with porn, why would you if you can get the real thing on a whim?

This explains the wall theory as well, yes women do have a biological wall (that they hide with make up), but they have no wall in terms of getting sex, so many dudes are desperate. If a man (of any age) had a choice between a fresh 20 yo vs a 50yo, 9.5/10 times, I'm sure he'd go with the 20yo.

Perhaps you can comment or make a response, up to you...

But imo, "no smoke without fire". As I said, good video & agree with your points, however since female biological imperatives rule the roost today (because male utility has liberated us all from the hunter/ gatherer lifestyle), I truly believe that this is what's going on (outside of the elites agenda to control/ destroy us).

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I wish you were in notre dame when it was burning

i got a good chuckle out of that one.

Feminists and Chads are actually right to say that the Old (sexual) Regime was unnatural, but what they're missing is that the new one is, too.

In a State of Nature, women who want to fuck Chad would have to pick one (wealthy and powerful) guy and be in his harem. When they turned about 30 at the latest, they'd be put to sexual pasture so to speak and if they're lucky work sweeping his palace or cooking his meals while he got busy with her younger, prettier, tighter replacement. If he was feeling very generous, he might very occasionally grace her with his member every year or so to keep the hysteria at bay.

But the current situation where women but not men get to be promiscuous and do whatever they want is just as unnatural as the old beta patriarchy. Maybe even more so.

I'll be completely honest here......

I was a huge fan of porn during the 1980's and 1990's. I knew many of the best stars and I certainly had my favorites to speak of. I was always partial to the epic lesbian movies because there's no creepy looking guy in the scene that you're desperately trying to avoid looking at. (If I wanted to look at some creepy naked dude....then I can look in the mirror literally all day long.)

The lesbian films were very intense.....they were as filthy and rough as you could possibly imagine.....the women were all heavily busty and beautiful, (many were former Playboy Playmates and Penthouse Pets,) and there were no tattoos or piercings to speak of that defaced any of the hot skin that you saw on film.

But that's all changed now.

Porn is dominated by black anal gang bangs on underage white women on "their 18th birthday." All that kiddy-porn and that barely legal bullshit drove me right out of the porn world for good. I can honestly say that I haven't seen a porn movie in better than 15 years now.....because I simply can't stomach it. And I'm so much the better for it too.

Seeing your woman have hot lesbian sex with a couple of other hot chicks actually makes her far more erotic and alluring in the long run........because it's hot. It's desirable. No question about it.
But watching your woman get anally violated by a dozen gang-banger black men is somehow suppose to make her more desirable for you when it's all said and done?

People who watch that shit are the same kind of people who love to watch snuff films. Only a man who hates his woman wants to see her do that and get humiliated in that way.....and only a sadist get's any perverse sense of pleasure out of it. This kind of video literally destroys the young, drug addicted girl that chooses to participate in it to fuel her drug habit; regardless of what race the men happen to be.

Sure, people think that statement is racist. But if I gave a fuck about what people actually thought.....then I wouldn't be living my life......
......I'd be living theirs. And that's not what a MGTOW does if he truly is going his own way.

>today women go with a guy based off his looks/genetics
And men don't? user listen, of course people pick someone they find attractive since they don't want to prodice an ugly offspring. This is all subconcious and what I find attractive might not be your cup of tea. Also by saying that I assume you want to criticize the superficial aspects of dating but consider this: why would a woman ever talk to you if you look like you haven't washed in days, smell gross and/or are fat. Your outward appearance shows how you carry yourself and if you look like a homeless person nobody is going to think you are a "provider". Why would you be if you don't even bother to look decent?
However I do agree that incels are an antipole to feminists, but why listen to these downright retarded women? The media might push them but that doesn't mean every girl is a hardcore feminist. Oh and by the way, yet again (hardcore) feminists are also rather easy to spot based on their looks.

>Radical feminists are up in arms because according to them, under patriarchy, a whole bunch of "undesirable" men got to reproduce.
i have never once seen any feminist ever say this. if you are implying that this is a "hidden truth" behind their agenda, ok, but ive just never seen any woman ever get mad about this social darwinist horseshit, only self-hating fedora-tipping pseudcels

>get Tinder
>legit think my pictures are pretty okay, no selfies, pictures of me abroad, some with friends, one on the beach to show the gains etc
>have it for 2 days, swipe right on maybe 70% of girls
>1 match
>doesn’t respond

Shit is fucked

I wish I was white so I can fuck Asian women

>I highly doubt in this "sexualized" environment that good looking/ high tier men would even bother with porn, why would you if you can get the real thing on a whim?
you're wrong

>But watching your woman get anally violated by a dozen gang-banger black men is somehow suppose to make her more desirable for you when it's all said and done?
Absolutely not. It's to subvert modern conceptions of sexuality.

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wow the head on that mannequin is almost life-like

GPT-2 detected

MOMMY

Change your location to somewhere in Asia. All girls will swipe right on you. I've banged several virgin Asian girls now.

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fuck women, go MGTOW

Whta is your solution? Force woman to have sex with undesirable men?
All I see is you complaining

>vrigins
Haha

Stop whining about how women are degraded by porn, you roastie worshipper. You are the filth why society collapses.

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There is no solution. An increasingly large number of men will never get any attention from women let alone sex in their whole life and there's not much to do except accept it and move on with life.

It's just another tentacle of white reticide/genocide
>There is no solution.
There's always one

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>sex in their whole life
>hookers
>rape
>decent women
there are many solutions. lurk moar

>>decent women
Only high value males will get these fagolo. Nobody on Jow Forums

What an absolute Chad, patrolled to the fucking max.

Nigger.

I mean metoo, some ambitious sluts with regret fucks from 20-30 years ago with no proof.
Some libshit campaign is brewing guys...

Ending welfare and female employment in jobs men can do better (i.e 99% of them) will sort it.

Are you stupid? It's not about the act of having sex. Most men desire an actual pairbond.

>because according to them, under patriarchy, a whole bunch of "undesirable" men got to reproduce
Real feminists would go against the patriarchy by reproducing with weak men so the next generations will be made of weak men and women will have the upper hand.

Have you tried having sex instead of being le angry 24/7, Jow Forums?

I think it's mostly just that men have approach anxiety, and don't want to deal with that. Too much cowardice on men's part. Theorizing about women is useless

Only the roof burned you dingus, the candles on the main level didn't even melt.
Maybe if he was having his sun tan on the roof when it caught fire.

Have you tried actually forming common interests and a sense of humor to interest women in ways other than looks?
T. Happily married, uncucked man of 7 years in a poly relationship with two girls.

>leaf

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>but what they're missing is that the new one
Yeas because society is an "unnatural" construct.
Monogamy imposed by law means the "natural" tendency is to go against it but wisdom says in society monogamy is better, which it is.
The only "natural" way for humans is the tribe.

>I was a huge fan of porn during the 1980's and 1990's
You like thick beavers?

This is true. Fucking switched my location to Japan on a couple of dating sites, got dozens of messages, hundreds of profile views. In my country, I get like 2 views a month. On Tinder I get liked more often but I'm very picky and I don't find women who like me attractive.

>But
But that's obviously leddit spacing.

I'd fuck a 6/10 but she must realize she doesn't deserve the effort.

LOL

>approach anxiety approach anxiety approach anxiety
>Hhhhello?!
>NO THANKS!
More like rejection anxiety.
Rage quit anxiety.

>incel is "involuntary celibate"
>haven't gotten laid in a few years, therefore am incel
>incel communities ban me for being a non-virgin
>not even incels can know what incel means

>Have you tried actually forming common interests and a sense of humor to interest women in ways other than looks?
Here comes that leaf cancer.

Tfw have a big dick but can only last like 2 mins fucking and I don't want to take pills to help cus I don't trust meds like that

personal story here.

recently joined a new job with a group of maybe 10 people. i'm 27 (but a young looking 27, look more 21). at risk of boasting, i'm the best looking guy, most competent guy and funniest guy in our group. our team leader of our group is male, pushing 40 (and he's an old looking 40, looks more 50+)

anyway, our trainer is a petite blonde, bout 23-25, probably 7-8/10. she spent the first two weeks or so trying almost anything to get me to acknowledge in some way that she's attractive. she got really pretty desperate, at some points, she might aswell have just held up a giant neon sign.
we had good rapport and etc etc and one day i told her i liked what she'd done with her hair.
she literally doesn't acknowledge me at all anymore and is now doing the exact same type of shit to the team leader, who's like twice her age.

tldr; most young women are just vain and want to be acknowledged as being attractive whilst giving out as little to nothing as possible in return. and often times they have unrealistic expectations for how men can escalate. sometimes it was like she wanted me to fuck her right there and then in the office and i guess because i didn't do that, i lost points? idk.

the worst part is she's not like super hot or anything but i can tell the entire thing was just an exercise for her inflated ego

>tfw 7ish inch dick
>barely gets used
shame really

>Tinder

Absolute maximum bottom of the barrel dating app. There's more quality women hooked to meth living out of a condemned home in Detroit than on Tinder.

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Neg her hard. Tell her she's ugly.

Like you said she just wanted attention and when you didn't do exactly as she wanted she discarded you and went to someone else.
Because even a regular looking woman will know most men will want her as there's so many single men now

Based

The thing is harems aint exactly conducive to a modern civilization.
There is no correlation between what is natural and what is good. The primitive uncontaminated tribes living in the stone age are living the most "natural" life for humans after all. The nuclear family is the best system possible.

yeah see, this is where the problem comes for me. i didn't even really want to fuck her anyway, and now i definitely don't because of how stupid the whole thing was, and because of how i find that kind of behaviour just fundamentally insulting to my intelligence. (i am well versed in game, and i often wish i wasn't because i'm sure if i wasn't, i wouldn't think that way about it)

i guess that makes me vain too, huh?

to get back on topic though, i'd honestly just rather watch porn and beat off and have it be done with than lower and degrade myself to complying with her bullshit princess narrative, all the time actually just playing game chess and knowingly manipulating her. it's not fulfilling for me and because of how it tends to produce results so easily, it lowers the value of the women in my mind to indian-shit-gutter level.

imo the solution is for women to wisen up a bit to the tricks of pua and then they might actually meet someone who isn't just looking to puppeteer them. shrug

the problem with this, is that even in those times sociaty knew that 80% unwed men, ends in civil war very fast, and no matter how chad you are, if your harem gets raided by 60 dudes your not goint to keep it.

The whole marriage for most people idea was the way of dealing with that problem. Of course that ment that wifes felt like they are too good for their husbands, and nagged them all the time. And husbands that wanted a bit of the "good" stuff went to theathers, brothels and other institutions like that. Wasn't perfect, but things are never perfect, and people had to live with it.
Plus people did think about stuff like, what am I going to do when am old etc Now the state is both the mom/dad and the child that is suppose to take care of parents. And yes I know it does a shity job at it, states in general do most stuff bad.

I don't think there is a way to turn things around though. Before people trade stuff in marrige. A man had to have someone to cook and wash for him, because he was working a lot. Women needed someone to take care of them and the children. Now, because of technology and state help, women no longer need men. Not saying that single parents are a good idea, but they can exist. When most men can not offer the 20% top life to a woman, the chance of a stable relationiship drops a lot. Worse all the under top 20% dudes, the lower they are in the totem pole, the less they have the entice to work at being better. In ages past a 50% dude was a good catch. pushing yourself to be half a "chad" could be a goal. Now it is, if I can't be the best why bother trying, and if they don't try they get worse and worse with time. That is why a lot of men are insufferable at the age of 30 nowadays.

tldr; when game works it turns me off to the woman immediately. and 90% of the time, it works every time. i think this is a problem for a lot of men that isn't brought up half as much as it should be

>according to them, under patriarchy, a whole bunch of "undesirable" men got to reproduce
Really? More undesirable women have gotten to reproduce than men. Just look at all the fat slobs toting kids

Let's play spot the incel
I WIN

no one saying it ain't the case. But sociaty did notice in all parts of the world, that if you don't have a "marrige" institution, the sociaty just breaks apart very fast. 10-20% dudes getting almost all the women, ends in civil war. China each time they had a population of unabalnce either starts one or goes full civil war mode.

According to that logic the same amount of undesirable women were created as men so thats fine and all aslong as your willing to discard genetically inferior women aswell?

I'm looking for one ware all the girls look like this

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A woman's looks are all she has. There are only 2 or 3 different female personalities in the world and all of them are simplistic and uninteresting. They're a superficial creature. Women are all skin deep.

Prostitution is fine, porn is shit.

All interaction with women is basically prostitution anyway.

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>no topical relevance
>1 post by this ID 3 hours in
sage

I need more of this fucking chink. I'd rawdog her for hours on end, even if it ended up giving me every STD under the sun

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me too
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Question Rus bro, do you know why people, specially women make pictures of food? I get it why they make selfies or put up pictures of themselfs, but why food?

when I go on a Asian dating ap i set the height to under 5 feet and education level to grade school

I have no idea why they doing it.

I'm gonna suck your dick. Thanks man

Don't fap dude

I remember the internet vaguely in 2013 but the incel movement was at the time the PUA movement. It was basically a bunch of people bragging about getting pussy about all the easy sex they are having it wa the RooshV's and Heartistes at the time. That thing died right around 2015 it became the alt-light-right and the MRA's/MGTOW's, 6-7 years later none of them wound up getting any pussy so they developed the incel worldview, the blackpill etc like Vox Day was in the PUA sphere now he's some kind of non-denominational tradcath collapse blackpiller Roosh V too.

same

t. asian man

Most pua stuff is fake anyway, a lot of it would only work if you are already socially normal, and those kinda of people don't need help as they can already get women

>Radical feminists are up in arms because according to them, under patriarchy, a whole bunch of "undesirable" men got to reproduce.
why do they forget the dozens and dozens of undesirable women?

checked based and redpilled

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>That thing died right around 2015 it became the alt-light-right
It's weird to assume that vague and hard to define "movements" somehow morph into one thing or another considering how hard it is to figure out who is who and what is what.

I call bullshit on your whole description.

That is why Westerners must learn how to rape again. At the end of the day, the only ones enforcing this feminist order are male police offcers. By themselves, women are weak and can be easily overpowered physically

How many real man are there? FtMs can get huge on growth hormones.

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Mir amte

Wrong you cheese-eating surrender monkey. Even in a relationship sometimes you can't be bothered putting up with the woman's shit so it's easier to look at porn and get the deed over and done with.

IVE SAID THIS A MILLION TIMES IF A WOMENS STATUS IN SOCIETY ISNT THEATENED BY THERE REPLACEMENT THERE BEHAVIOUR WILL NOT CHANGE. Mgtow is one way to take away their status and the other is getting a foreign chic and lauding it all over social media. Meta messaging like she is breath of fresh air, her traditional background etc

that's a whole lot of shit to say nothing at all

And still, the harem sizes were on average small.
1.1:1 for asians
1.3:1 for caucasians
1.4:1 for blacks

It's almost certainly a Pareto distribution. Most reproductive relationships were monogamous, with a few having 2 or 3 female partners. The numbers of males who had many more than that was minuscule.
It's just not all that different today.

Feminist rats produce faggot rats. That's pretty much it. Feminism is a form of female dysgenics.

This is so wrong lol. While I concede that some members of those early cults may have become incels, as someone who was also part of them, I certainly did not. Not gonna sit here and brag about my sex life, but it's doing just fine, thank you.

Alt right though, yes. Incels are not alt right, they hate the alt right and think we are deluding ourselves.

>>Radical feminists are up in arms because according to them, under patriarchy, a whole bunch of "undesirable" men got to reproduce.

let them reintroduce sociobiology then and enjoy the show.

This.
But.
Women today still judge men on more than looks. For a casual fuck yes, but even there she has an eye on other behavioural signals in case she's found a good one.

I wonder who here on Jow Forums would survive the "natural" tribe life

you forget what happens if Chad meets stronger Chad.

And I still wonder why Jow Forums is not supporting instead of challenging the "revolution" against genes that is Monotheism.

Tinder is Chads Harem Management app.
And you're not a chad. Sorry.
Either start lifting and get in shape try to get into that 10% grouping, or dump it.

Same reason anything is posted to social media. For attention.

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I’m a good looking guy
I’ve been with plenty of women
The older I get, the more I prefer to watch porn, and not deal with female bullshit

If you do get a chance to have multiple female partners, you will quickly learn that most females are the same

Looks no longer matter as much

Now I’m dating a “relatively attractive” female, mostly because I can tolerate her

Inevitably, that becomes the goal; can you tolerate this woman in your life.

>But watching your woman get anally violated by a dozen gang-banger black men is somehow suppose to make her more desirable for you

No mate. It's women who're watching that shit, not men.

Women's #1 & #2 sex fantasies are :
Sex with another woman.
Being raped.