750 billion dollars for the Military industrial welfare complex

Hey somebody needs to defend the land of the free from communists.
Have you seen independence day? Aliens will invade any day now

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Daily Reminder: $750B would fund UBI for 2 months.

How much are we spending on social programs now?

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*sigh
Look up Department of Treasury budget. Will take Google .02 seconds to find it.
>oh look, a .gov site
cbo.gov/publication/54948
>This report describes CBO’s analysis of the 2019 FYDP, which was issued in April 2018 and summarizes DoD’s expectations about the costs of its plans from 2019 through 2023. Because decisions made in the near term can have consequences for the defense budget in the longer term, CBO projected the costs of that plan through 2033.
>DoD’s Budget Plans for 2019 Through 2023
The 2019 FYDP comprises DoD’s budget request for 2019 and its planned budgets for 2020 through 2023. The 2019 budget request called for $686 billion in funding for DoD. Of that total, $617 billion was for the base budget, which funds normal, peacetime activities, such as day-to-day operations and the development and procurement of weapon systems. The remaining $69 billion was for the overseas contingency operations (OCO) budget, which is intended to fund temporary, wartime activities, such as those associated with the conflicts in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria.

TL;DR: The "$750 billion" is for the next four years (2020-2023) and perhaps beyond that. Adjusted for inflation. The 2016 budget was around $550 billion. A nothingburger.

>a literal carrot on a stick by the media once again

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Because teh jooz and trannies and mossad you jidf shill!

If Israel quit dragging us into everything, we'd save tons on the defense budget
Bonus points if the rest of NATO starts paying it's fair share

Your disgusting illness isn’t defending this country. How about considering living a clean life next time?

This. UBI ain't so cute when you factor in over 330 million and nearly half aren't working full time.

>$750 billion to fund the goy army so the Democrats can use the actions of the military to justify the mass importation of 3rd worlders from the affected areas
Yet another huge waste of tax payer funds

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>Everyone who gets ill deserves it

Ladies and gentlemen, conservative thinking.

UBI and socialized healthcare are two different things.
A lot of money is already spent on healthcare it's just that Americans get totally fleeced by big pharma and insurance.

EDIT:
Correction on 2016 budget. Actually 2017-2021

>Report
An Analysis of the Obama Administration’s Final Future Years Defense Program
April 6, 2017
The Obama Administration’s final defense plan called for base-budget funding averaging $540 billion (in 2017 dollars) from 2017 through 2021, but it would have reached almost $600 billion per year by 2032 under DoD’s cost assumptions.

cbo.gov/topics/defense-and-national-security/defense-budget

only dumb poor people can't into health insurance

>Americans get totally fleeced by big pharma and insurance.

Will not disagree with you there...
I would prefer a harmonious balance between private and government influence. However, a corporate structure lacking oversight is every bit as corrupt as an over-reaching government.

As far as I'm concerned, Congress and Big pharma can all bite my taint. Neither one currently has the common man in their best interest or even in their scope of interest for that matter

It's all a scam to get Americans to join the army. Spend a few years fighting for Israel, and if you survive, you can kick back and collect government checks every month and never have to work ever again.

LEAF UR BEING BAD

pull up your own pants. its not my job to do it for you.

>Americans have to go bankrupt to see a doctor
If you're retarded, maybe, get a job, stop mooching off the Government, faggot

So all those flyover states that Trump spent a lot of time campaigning in are all just 'dumb poor people' now I guess?
Those 'dumb poor people' used to have jobs but big business sent those jobs over to the far east, so now entire areas are fucked, not to mention other issues that go with that like the opioid crisis and so on.

>Missing the point
If you actually believe everyone who has an illness has gotten it through their own fault then you are an idiot.

Guess I don't mind shellin' out a few extra bucks at the doctor or in taxes if it means we keep our red white and blue cock on the worlds lips a little longer.

>Get a jerb son!
>Firm handshake and look em in the eye

This kind of crap is why the conservatives in America are fucking done for, 'muh bootstraps' isn't going to cut it as more and more jobs go down the drain either by outsourcing or automation, it's already happening and the social effects are a disaster, and a big part of the fallout is healthcare.

Yet the military wouldn't release funds for his wall.

i live in one of those states. the only ones without jobs are the Bernie supporting meth heads.
getting sick can happen to anyone. Some people just know how to prepare for that and have health coverage and the rest are idiots. Nobody prevented them from having coverage.

based and goypilled

>Nobody prevented them having coverage

The fact is that a lot of jobs have gone under since the 1970s with wages across the board not rising with inflation since the same time. That problem is not going to get any better and no amount of stale rhetoric about bootstraps is going to bring about jobs when the overall amount is decreasing.

Are conservatives going to keep spouting this when automation comes into other areas?

if you can't find a job the unemployment office will find one for you. You've obviously not tried too hard. Bootstraps do work. I'm only 23 and I've had my own health insurance since I left high school.

you should look for work in moving goal posts. you have experience in that field.

How much of that is "contingency" funding? ie) wall money

Thats where Trump is taking all the emergency wall funding from

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It isn't moving goalposts. The idea that there is always a 'job for everyone' is not true, especially when you consider a job having decent pay.
The issue of this century is going to be what to do about the huge amount of unemployment, right now america is about 63% employed in real terms (not using the fictional government numbers).

>Clueless Jew slave

they don't need the US military actions to do that

you can always start teaching a dance class. that should be safe from automation for a while and the number of fags increases every year.

Our defense budget is what is keeping the dollar afloat.

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>Dismissing the problem
Again, this is why conservatives are not going anywhere because the situation today is not the same as in the 1950s. Turning up at a random store and telling the owner 'Ahm lookin for wek' like in the movies isn't reality now.

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probably because Democrats support and advocate for open border immigration and demographic replacement and the bad comes with the greater good of stopping that

>doesn't like spending money on military and national defense
>instead wants to spend it feeding niggers
fuck off faggot.
If national defense is a walfare program, it's the only legitimate one we have.

illegal immigration levels are at the highest since the Clinton admin now. Conservatives don't do anything to sort out illegal immigration.

you mean millions of shitskins every year are going to transform America into a third world society with the associated economic problems

>Conservatives don't do anything to sort out illegal immigration when liberals obstruct them
fixed

Unironically, this. The only reason why the dollar is used anywhere is due to global extortion by the military. No reasonable person or country would use fiat, inflated currency if there was another option.

>Hannity tier nonesense

If you were elected president after decades of politicians doing nothing about the millions of illegals pouring into our country every year, committing crimes, dealing drugs, driving drunk, molesting children and killing Americans like Kate Steinle, and your central campaign promise -- repeated every day -- was to build a wall, wouldn't you have spent the entirety of your transition period working on getting it done?

Wouldn't you have been building prototypes, developing relationships with key congressional allies and talking to military leaders about using the Seabees or the Army Corps of Engineers to build the wall?

Wouldn't you skip the inauguration and take the oath of office in San Diego so you could get started on supervising wall construction immediately after putting your hand on the Bible and being sworn in as the leader of the free world?

You would if you meant it.

Well, Donald Trump didn't do that

Probably because we have jus soli citizenship enshrined in the Constitution via post Civil War extortion alomg with "due process" for spic asylum as long as they cross the border with their third world spawn. Trump can't do anything under the disastrous legal framework enacted by decades of Jew led liberal egalitarian policy.

Did the democrats generally (or entirely?) oppose efforts to fix immigration? Yes or no

Wouldn't you have a bogus congressional investigation hanging over your presidency for two years suppressing support for your anti-immigration policy and tying your hands long enough for the spic party to regain control in the subsequent elections? Because that's exactly what's happened.

what was reagan amnesty nigger? also, bush light did absolutely nothing for border security.

you haven't gotten it: more mouths more market s and money for the oligarchy aka republican establishment since the late 1800s.

dems are just whores who love non-white immigrants for the righteous feels and votes

Healthcare is a private citizens responsibility and choice. Military spending is just over half of medicaid and medicare alone. You want a real budget? Audit DOD suppliers and contractors to identify price fixing, over charging and creating a fields that block out competition. Split the budget in two and move the necessities to mandatory spending and leave r&d, outside spending and intelligence in the discretionary pot.
Next get rid of medicaid altogether as it's used by citizens and non-citizens alike to wrack up huge bills and so what is covered by medicaid upfront is massively overcharged. Then limit medicare to 60 and up and make sure it's non-fungible. On the medicare/medicaid issue we would be saving hundreds of billions and we can cut military contractors off at the nuts.
There I just saved between close to a trillion dollars. Now replace the money taken out of social security by eliminating government paid for living expenses namely anything to do with housing. Next turn ebt and snap into a voucher program. By that I mean have recipients do actual tasks.
Heres a thought, offer section 8 housing and make it rural. Start up farming, logging, mining, and conservation communities. If they want a free house and free food there is no reason they shouldn't have to contribute. They'd still be getting a paycheck but it would be a diminished one.

Yes.
But it is irrelevant since Trump has the authority to build the wall from day one as Coulter pointed out.
And legal immigration has only been expanded too, h1bs and h2bs, both expanded under Trump.

You need to understand that the GOP does not want to 'fix immigration' because it is a big voting issue for them. If immigration got fixed then that's a big vote gaining talking point gone. So it's in their interest to keep immigration perpetually bad.

The dems have these kind of issues too, things that they constantly talk about to rile up voters come election time but will never ever act on.

Fucking stupid americans. By 2035 China will overtake USA economically. Soon military will follow the suit. By that time, USA will be irrelevant, you all will be learning chinese, using wechat and seeking their work permit visas.

That is, if USA does not stop China before 2035. And by stop, I mean military crush China. That is why Trump increases military budget, impose tariffs on China and crack huawei. Trump cancelled medium missile treaty ban, that is so important for USA to tackle China, but Jow Forums did not even noticed it, better start another joos thread.

Next 10 years will determine who will be the next superpower. All americans will have to make a shitload of sacrifices if you dont want to be china colony. I hope you still got a stomach for that.

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So, we agree that democrats obstructed trump's efforts to fix the immigration issue. You keep trying to wriggle away from the subject here. The democrats are absolutely responsible for opposing trump's border security measures. Congress has the power of the purse. That's how our government is designed.

Your position is that trump should have done it DESPITE the obstruction. But that's just a childish view of how things work. President isn't a king.

sure thing Putinigger, just ignore north Asian faggot subversion propaganda like muh China coming from your lying mouth

you're just as bad as kikes and I hope your faggot nigger president dies from a bullet to the brain

>t.retard

I pay 500 a month and can see a doctor or dentist whenever for free. Don't like it? Get a job.

>white house budget
Is like a kid writing down their Christmas wishlist and giving it to mom and dad who laugh and buy them socks instead. It doesn't fucking matter. The Dem controlled house won't give him shit.

>But it is irrelevant since Trump has the authority to build the wall from day one as Coulter pointed out.

Well, trump passed an executive order to build it very early in his presidency. The executive order didn't magically make it happen though despite the claim from coulter that it is within his power.

See: You are saying the GOP doesn't want to fix immigration: that's fine I agree with you there; but with trump shining a light on the issue, they could not have fought against him. It's the democrats who are able to brazenly work against the national interest, even when the public is watching, in this case.

but they use military action to do that and no one pushes back

Gotta protect Israel.

trump should have done it his first 2 years in office when he had control of both houses of congress ... not conveniently attempt it when he loses the house to the dems.

bush light had both chambers of congress repub control from 2003 - 2006 ... he did absolutely nothing xcept tax cuts and wars
reagan had the senate in his hands too

... but keep telling yourself kid convervatives care about shutting the border...

He should have told the army corp of engineers to do it all at that point. Because they've already done some barrier going back years now.

The real disgusting thing that Trump is doing is lying to his fans by saying 'finish the wall' and posting pictures of wall that was due to already get made going back as far as the Bush admin yet he's claiming it as HIS.
He has 55miles pending, that is the total, not any of the videos and pics he is taking credit for.

The fact that he is doing this means he is aware of the lie too, so he is content in just bullshitting about the wall now rather than actually doing it.

>trump should have done it his first 2 years in office when he had control of both houses of congress

He did. The schumer shut down happened in trump's second year (in december), when the GOP had majority. But he was still obstructed by congress.

the military is cool though

why dont we talk about the $668 billion we give to shaniqua and her 2 dozen fatherless kids

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without big military the USA cant boss everyone around. thats how it works. didnt you ever play Crusader Kings

>trump should have done it his first 2 years in office when he had control of both houses of congress

youtube.com/watch?v=dMCBFM0n9FE
Here's a recap if you forgot. See, at this point they are discussing the budget (this is the second budget trump had a hand in negotiating). And, because the congress was unwilling to give him border funding, the shut down lasted into the next year, when the new congress was put in place.

he attempted it in a lame duck congress after the votes had been casted in dems favor and he knew there would be a dem majority coming in a few weeks... he caved by the way remember and now we have nothing and will get nothing... and he (and future republicans) can blame it on the dems and their obstruction.

i've been around long enough to remember republican candidates in the pass talk tough on immigration during their campaign then once elected do nothing and actually opposite of any kind of border tightening.

trump has followed suit just like bush light, bush senior and reagan

>He should have told the army corp of engineers to do it all at that point.
This is just unrealistic thinking. Just doing stuff without the consent of congress is not how things work. The army corp of engineers was never doing it against the consent of congress.

>He has 55miles pending, that is the total, not any of the videos and pics he is taking credit for.
Yea, trump is going to present himself as a success regardless of what happens. Is that news to you? He's a politician.
That doesn't change the fact that he IS and has been fighting for border security.

>he attempted it in a lame duck congress after the votes had been casted in dems favor and he knew there would be a dem majority coming in a few weeks

You just said he should have done it during his first 2 years. HE DID do that, you imbecil.

The budget is passed at the end of the year (after the midterms).

>The army corp of engineers was never doing it against the consent of congress.
If from day one he had started the national emergency then it would be a different story.
Keep in mind he signed the national emergency the day after he signed the omnibus bill which specifically gave liberal counties veto power over any sections of wall. Meaning by that point he knew the emergency would not actually have any impact.

because its a stupid argument and if you take it out of the way, they'll use other stupid arguments. The thing is, these people are determined to try and help the poor brown people and would be happy to take away your money to do so.
No one that is pro immigration actually believes the ''we should help them because we bombed them'' rethoric. They think we should help them because they are poor and we are rich

>If from day one he had started the national emergency then it would be a different story.

Says you. You don't know what would have happened. You're just making conjecture.

> Meaning by that point he knew the emergency would not actually have any impact.
No, it doesn't follow.

They are able to skim off an inflated system because only some people pay into it where you have a group that disproportionately uses those resources. It's similar to how a small percentage of a certain people commit a large part of the crimes in the US.

The national emergency he signed was signed AFTER he signed a bill that fucked it up

See here

>1) Less of a wall than even what Democrats already agreed to: Trump originally demanded $25 billion for the wall. Then he negotiated himself down to $5.6 billion. Democrats balked and only agreed to $1.6 billion. This bill calls it a day at $1.375 billion, enough to construct 55 miles. But it’s worse than that. This bill limits the president’s ability to construct “barriers” to just the Rio Grande Valley sector and only bollard fencing, not concrete walls of any kind. There’s no ability to adapt. Furthermore, section 231 prohibits construction even within the RGV in five locations that are either federal or state lands. Remember, the challenge with building a wall in Texas is that, unlike in other states, the feds need to navigate issues with private lands. The first place you’d construct fencing is on public lands, which are now prohibited. The national parks along the border have gotten so bad that park rangers are scared to travel alone in them.

>2) Liberal local officials have veto power over wall: Actually, on second thought, it’s likely that not a single mile of fence will be built. Section 232(a) of this bill states that “prior to use of any funds made available by this Act for the construction of physical barriers” the Department of Homeland Security “shall confer and seek to reach mutual agreement regarding the design and alignment of physical barriers within that city.” With whom must the feds consult? “The local elected officials.” Now you can understand the brilliance of limiting the wall to the Rio Grande Valley. These are the most liberal counties on the border (thanks to demographics of open borders itself!), and there is practically no local official who supports the wall in these counties.

conservativereview.com/news/5-insane-provisions-amnesty-omnibus-bill/

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MUH TROOPS

>only dumb poor people can't into health insurance

Trump promised to be different and not cut Medicare, but all of his budgets propose to do that.

I don't see how this fucks up a national emergency though. It doesn't say anything here about what happens in a state of emergency.

$750 billion for defense when your country is burning through $1.5 trillion per year added to the debt. This surely won't end badly in a few years.

National defense is one of the ONLY legitimate uses of federal funds.

Of all the crap our fed spends money on, this is the last thing people should be angry about.

The national emergency needs to be justified for when it gets challenged. You can't declare a national emergency when you've basically done things that inhibit what you're trying to accomplish by declaring it at the same time and have it hold up.

For us, going to a doctor doesn't involve inverting your penis.

That doesn't really make sense. An emergency is an exception by definition.

Obviously emergency situations are going to allow for a bending or breaking of the normal protocol. The fact that congress OKed a budget that puts us in danger should not inhibit the president's ability to save us from an emergency situation.

Trump even mentioned it 'probably won't work' when he declared it, this is because it's getting challenged. For it to succeed against that it needs to have a strong case, which doesn't work when Trump just signed a bill that goes against what his emergency declaration stands for.

The national emergency is ultimately a political move, it's a way to try to get support from voters, nothing more.

what's a matter don't like communism anymore cuckservative
tired of being with libshits and cuckservatives?
why not take the fascist pill then?
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This. Economic collapse after a debt default confirmed.

"How can they defend these policies"
With an inflated military. Don't like it? Buy a gun and kill soldiers

That's like $6.22 per day per person. Fuck.

>conservatives
Both parties defend this shit. The military industrial complex controls everyone.

>muh healthcare

classic liberal narrative. Wherever you go in the world, it's the same ol' shit.

kys

> implying burgerland being a china colony isn't preferable to the current state of things
How new are you?

>on par with typical defense budget plus a bit more to beef up border defense
Good.