How do I avoid becoming this guy?

I seem to have the same sense of entitlement and self-pity as Elliot, without the affluenza. I don't think of myself as the "ultimate gentleman" but I'm not a bad-looking guy nor a complete social freak. I have zero luck with the ladies tho. They're just interested in me. Then I see them holding hands with chads and badboys and it drives me into a murderous rage. All I want is a cute (or semi-cute) girl to love me.

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>They're just interested in me
*NOT interested, ofc

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How many girls have you ever asked out on a date?

Do you have female friends?

Eliot was a creepy, insufferable asshole. He also appeared to hate women. I really don't think you are gonna fall down the same rabbit hole that he did.

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Not many.
How many girls do chads ask out?

Pretty much all the attractive ones they come across.

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OP might not be working his way up to a mass shooting, but Eliot was just a particularly extreme example of a fairly common type and OP certainly appears qualify. The hatred of women that people like Eliot display comes later, it starts with entitlement, self pity, and a lack of insight.

I learned how to deal with women way better by lurking r/niceguys and learning what to avoid doing than anywhere else telling me what to actively do.

>chads

Give up entirely on this fantasy. Its a mildly amusing stereotype, but buying into the narrative oversimplifies human interactions and gives you an excuse to absolve yourself of responsibility. You're not going to make yourself into a successful, well rounded adult by looking at the world through a re-skin of the SJW funhouse mirror version of the world.

But they don't. If anything, the girls hit on them. You won't find many chads actually asking a girl on a date.

Ok, then how does Op recover from this?
How would he avoid becoming the poor man's Eliot Rodger?

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You're saying it's a fantasy that women will predominantly go for the alphas of the species?

The first step is to ask out more than one girl in real life. There, you're already better than Elliott.

If we were wolves in a pack that'd be true.
But since we are humans, there are a whole lot more of variables than just instinct.

It really isn't something like "oh humans are so much more sofisticated". It's just that, by logic, people have way more things going on their heads than just "how do I survive".

With that people developed tastes.
We do have some kind of general preference, but thats just it, a "general" preference.
I for one hate the catwalk model type. It's so skinny I fear she might snap in half if the wind blows too hard. I preffer someone with a bigget ass.
Same for women. My gf for example finds guys that are way too muscular hideous, it actually gets under her skin.

Where do you get this from? It's absolutely retarded and wrong. Have you even left your home lately?

This isn't the 1930s where the onus is on men to ask for a lady's courtship. Girls have no problem hitting on guys or using dating apps to find fuckbois. So yes, pussy does often fall into the laps of attractive men.

Correct, but what they percieve as attractive varies greatly.
See

Therapy, interacting with other humans, being more willing to consider that the problem more likely lies within him than society.

>You're saying it's a fantasy that women will predominantly go for the alphas of the species?
Ideally, yeah, but we're not talking about behavior under ideal circumstances, we're talking about a society. There are a whole range of rules that come into play: personal taste, comparative league, self esteem, partner availability, level of desire, moral outlooks, short and long term goals, safety considerations, security considerations, the list goes on forever. Who gets to fuck is basically an enormously complex Wason card sort task where nobody knows the rules the other people are playing by. Boiling it down to chads and staceys makes it easier to think about, but it does that artificially reducing complexity. Worse, it reduces complexity in ways that specifically exclude the incel motherfuckers who do it from ever having to think.

Go to any bar in any city in the US and you'll see people who are batting out of their league and failing, couples that make no sense, chads hanging out with stacys, and an overwhelming majority of people who are more or less with appropriate pairings. The 4s are mostly with 3s, 4s, and 5s; the 7s are mostly with 6s, 7s, and 8s. Sure, the 1s have it tough because they can usually only hook up with the 1s and 2s, and the 10s never go home alone because they can have the pick of the litter, but those are outliers.

It doesn't matter that everyone wants to fuck the 10s, it matters that most people would rather fuck than not.

It does happen but not the way you described. The meme chad who gets girls hitting on him everywhere does not exist. I have been hit on a few times but that's because I am a pretty awesome guy and girls sense it.

Pussy has always fallen into the laps of attractive men. The incel error is to believe that pussy ONLY falls into the laps of attractive men. It also fails to account for the reality that women are socialized to want relationships. The problem with falling into the lap of a 9 or 10 is that you fuck something pretty for an evening and then you're alone. They're assuming that looks (or whatever) is the primary method of choice because thats how you chose what to beat off to and Incels don't have the real world experience to understand that human relations aren't just a progressively more immersive stroke session.

I think you fail to take into consideration the prevalence of hypergamy and the 80/20 rule. Even semi-attractive girls have a wealth of sexual partners available to them, therefore they often aim for guys above their "league"

>hypergamy
Explain in your own words what this means.
>80/20 rule
Are you talking about the incel 80/20 meme? The tenet of their religion which is completely false?

Hypergamy is the tendency for women to pursue sexual partners of higher status.
>Are you talking about the incel 80/20 meme?
It's not a meme.
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>that link again
It's an incel blog of a guy who sent an email survey to 27 girls. It's not an experiment. It doesn't have any tinder data. It's completely worthless. It doesn't even show what he asked or the results he got, he just pulls numbers out of his ass and says "trust me bro".

more like, "Chad" is a joke that only has a kernel of truth to it to make it relatable on a humor level, and that makes is a piss poor, shallow, and myopic linchpin to base an entire world view or philosophy off of

Don't forget the blog on OKCupid that was conveniently take down

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Don't forget the graph that explains how things even out when you take into account messaging.

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Heres the problem with the "80/20 rule": most people have dated. Incels aren't 80% of the population. They aren't 30% of the population. Incels, like furries, would have just been weird loners before the internet. The only reason they have a vocabulary and a culture is because ubiquitous communications means that they're able to find other people with the same cluster of foibles.

The lived experience of the overwhelming majority of males is that they can get laid once in awhile or find a relationship if they work at it. I work with autistic teenagers that are pairing off. I've known a guy since high school who's pushing 40, has never had a real job, has fucking type 2 diabetes at 35 because he's so fat, still lives with his parents, and has never been single for longer than a couple of months. I have another friend who just got married despite being a mechanic and looking like Shreck and Danny DeVito had a kid and drank through the whole pregnancy.

You're not single because girls want to fuck Chad, you're single because you either isolate or are an asshole.

>letting reddit influence your behaviour

>You're not single because girls want to fuck Chad, you're single because you either isolate or are an asshole.

Must be the former, because women love assholes as long as they're goodlooking

If women love assholes how come incels aren't getting women?

My apologies, you're right, women often like assholes because they're well socialized. You're more of a jag off. An important distinction, to be certain.

Because women like a certain kind of asshole, one who's hawt and superficially charming. That's why they dig badboys. Also, incels don't start out like assholes, it's a consequence of being shunned by women.

Well that must be it. Either women are shallow, superficial creatures or I have a terrible personality. Either way I can't win.

I see no one actually wanted to help me. Just sling insults.

You apparently didn't want help because you ignored all advice.

Better than incels.

There is nothing wrong with challenging people's claims instead of believing it blindly.

Funny you should say that because incels believe in their meme graphs blindly.

I've got chaddish friends that get their way with women all the time. They look good but they're also excellent communicators, keep cool under pressure and are able to move things forward with women. And that is coupled with the chad guys constantly hitting on women

Come on guys, I think I'm seriously on my way to the Day of Retribution unless someone can help me see the truth.

Don't stab three Asian guys to death and you'll be a winner.

You got lots of solid advice, you just don't notice it because its not the simple answer you wanted. You are the one that needs to do change, not everybody else

>You got lots of solid advice
Such as? Other than "wimmin are special snowflakes'