Be gifted as a kid and told so by everyone

>be gifted as a kid and told so by everyone
>breeze through school, eventually start facing slight challenges, completely stop trying and fail
>become a neet loser, basically a living 4channer stereotype minus the fat
>hang onto the idea that at least I'm smart, and live like this for a few years before starting university this year (I'll probably fail though)
>today learn through a legitimate (not online) IQ test that I'm actually relatively average
>realize the single redeeming quality I thought I had doesn't exist
So basically I'm completely worthless. Physically, socially, intellectually, professionally. I'm barely even a person. What's the point then?

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Have sex

No.

maybe find something you're good at?

I'm good at whining on Jow Forums. Other than that I have no talents.

If the point of your life was to be better than everybody than it was doomed from the start. Anybody that has that potential likely doesn't even end up in schools and has attention and challenges at that caliber from the start with private tutors they already work hand in hand with on projects and classes at master degree levels. People like that aren't even driven by status signaling egoism but actually trying to do work that just happens to be difficult for most other people. Find work your fine satisfying and learn to stop giving a shit about that hamster wheel of feeling like your dick is bigger than everyone else.

Your problem is the “nice guy problem” you adhered to one quality about yourself that you used to define your self worth as a person. Rather than looking at your entire objective self you spent your entire life “I’m smart that’s all I am nothing else.” You also rely on external things to define who you are rather than actually having a core belief in yourself.” It’s the same pattern in so many people. Attractive women for example. They told their whole lives that they’re pretty and they build their entire self worth off of the validation of people around them. What happens when they’re 40 and not pretty anymore? They experience essentially ego death. That’s what you’re experiencing. You don’t even know who you are. So firstly, some IQ test doesn’t define how smart you are or aren’t, that’s absolutely autistic to adhere to essentially the approval of a test to gauge how “gifted” you are. It’s external validation. What happens when you meet someone who’s actually more “gifted” then you are you’d feel the same thing. Destroyed. You have to look at yourself as an entire unit. What else about you makes you you. Not better than everyone around me. But makes me me. You’re still smart. You’re just now experiencing life and realizing that there are people out there who are more attractive, taller, smarter. And that’s life. Internalize a positive image you have of yourself. And don’t make the mistake of adhering to one single quality that makes you you. That’s the lesson.

Than that's your job now trying jobs until you find something your good at. Fuck man try just making pizzas it's pretty easy.

It's hard. I was the same, told I was "gifted" by my parents, breezed through schooling until things took effort. Now you know that you're not special, you can at least get rid of expectations of grandeur. If you think you're going to fail, get out now and find some part time work to give you money, then throw yourself into exploring hobbies. General outdoors stuff is a good starting hobby, there's no social requirement but it has social opportunities, it's cheap to get in to, it's fun, it gets you out of the house, it helps with fitness, and it teaches self-reliance and problem solving.

It's not about comparing myself to others, just knowing (or believing rather) that I'm special. Because being above average in intelligence makes one "special". Sure, other people are smarter but that's fine, it doesn't take away that feeling since someone being smarter than you doesn't disqualify you from being smart yourself, so that was not an issue for me.
IQ tests exist to gauge intelligence, if you get an average score you're probably not particularly gifted. I think it's a pretty objective metric, why is it bad to rely on it?
Regardless, it's not as if I have anything else to hold on to, which is what makes me feel bad in the first place. I never did anything to become somebody, so now I'm nobody.
I had already realized that others were better than me in other ways but it was fine as long as I had only one special characteristic, but since I don't, then what separates me from literally anyone else? I'm utterly replaceable and bland.

Should I just try things out even though it's not appealing? And if I do find something I'm decent at, what then?
> expectations of grandeur.
I already let those go a long time ago, I was fine with just existing in my head instead of seeking external gratification.
I should get a hobby but nothing interests me.

Grow up, Average means you’re still capable of being useful and capable of taking care of yourself.

What you’re experiencing is a shattering of your ego.
>As a child you thought you were hot stuff because of positive reinforcement. “They’re so smart, they have the best grades”.
>As you grew older you grew bored because those who cheered for you before no longer did so. The teachers were busy helping struggling students and lowered the bar for assignments and you felt unappreciated for your efforts and unchallenged. “No one really even cared about that 100.”
>Now that led into developing a slacker mentality, although that ego was still there as an excuse, “I could if I wanted to, I just don’t feel like it”.
>And with adulthood dawning you’ve began to doubt yourself, don’t study the way you used to. In doing so you’ve effectively dumbed yourself down. “Now I’m just average”.

Honestly this goes one of two ways.

Maybe you were average all along, but you just tried harder in your younger years and the praise was enough award for you so it hardly seemed hard at all.

Or, maybe you were indeed above average and since you’ve developed a defeatist perspective, you’re actually still not trying and trapped in that cycle of hardly trying, hardly studying, hardly caring.

But absolutely, you’ve got to get rid of that ego, and realize if you want better you have to do better.

I never tried in my life, I don't even know how to study because I never had to, and by the time I had to I didn't want to. As a kid I was definitely way above average, it wasn't just my parents projecting things onto me. But it's like it just normalized with age I guess.
>capable of being useful
How? To whom?

How to be useful.

Find out like the rest of the average people do, go out and get a job, try something new, get out of your comfort zone, that’s really the only way you’re going to discover your true strengths and weaknesses.

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The point I’m making is there’s actually a deeper problem here with you than “I took a test and it says I’m average.” It’s totally reasonable to take a test and be disappointed. It’s not totally reasonable to take a test and have your life come crashing down. But i am saying that it is totally understandable to be experiencing what you’re experiencing given the way in which you’ve set yourself up. You literally set yourself up for failure your entire life and your realizing the mistake. That’s why youre destroyed right now. The mistakes you were making were actually submitting to self doubt, trying to be better than people around you, need for approval, and I’m sure you can think of more, but that’s what i see right off the bat. You actually have to fix all of that shit in order to fix this perceived problem at hand. Work on all of it and work to “be somebody” calm the fuck down

What I'm saying is, what's the point in just being an average person? When you have something exceptional about yourself, you have an incentive to do things because you're capable of meaningful accomplishments. When you're just another joe sixpack with mediocre prospects, what incentive do you have?

So, you’ve accepted you aren’t going to make a grand contribution to the world and be remembered for centuries to come. And you want to know what keeps the peabrained sheeple going?

>You literally set yourself up for failure your entire life
How do I avoid making the same mistakes now, then? I don't want to keep fucking up everything.
Identifying the problems isn't that difficult, but what practical steps should I take to avoid making running into them again?
You don't have to be so hyperbolic but yeah basically.

Dude, you gotta find a reason to keep going. The greats never were quoted with saying, “I did it for the recognition”. You need a passion if you want to enjoy what years you have left.
You don’t brush your teeth so people will recognize you have pearly whites, or wipe your butt and shower so people can say, “this guys always fresh”, you do it for your own health, for yourself.
Find something your passionate about, and run with it, for yourself. You don’t need a skill or a talent, movie critics basically sit on their asses all day and talk, and still make a living.
Every mechanism eventually become outdated and forgotten, every scientific contribution eventually becomes overshadowed by a more meaningful one. No matter what you do, your accomplishments will be forever lost. So you just have to do things for yourself, because they are things you care about, things you want to see happen. Drive yourself, don’t worry about if it matters to the rest of the world, as long as it matters to you, you aren’t wasting your time and you won’t regret it.

Other than that, I’m tapped on advice for you buddy. Best of luck, and try to enjoy what years you have left.

I know that's what I should do but it's difficult.
And thanks.

>tfw got fired from making pizzas
Im so dumb i cant even do the jobs anons hete suggest for invalids like me. And i have a bachelors?

Why are some people just born defective? Whats wrong with me

Absolute bs. Hard work beats intelligence 99 % of the time. You're exactly like I was three years ago, and I can tell you if you try something once, from start to finish, you'll be motivated to do more and improve your life for the better. It gets easier the farther you go. And please don't value yourself based on a single number.

I believe in you, user. God bless.

People keep saying advice like this as if its new to people like me. Our problem is thag we cant find any passions at all

>Hard work beats intelligence 99 % of the time
What makes you think that?
A lot of genuinely intelligent people (not the "smart but lazy" type) actually put in the work. Who beats who between a gifted person who works hard and an average person who works hard?
>like I was three years ago
What did you do to change?

First off. I’ve made the same mistakes and worse than you have and I’m fine. You’ll be fine. Find comfort in that. The best thing you can do is look at all of these mistakes as deeply as possible. Understand them, they will hurt at first. You’ll feel and are probably feeling regret as we speak. That feeling is literally there to solely remind you of the mistakes so you don’t make the same mistakes. Thats it’s function. The pain will pass in time like all pain does. And you’ll be wiser and stronger. But right now you have to sit down and let it absorb you. You have to calm yourself down and look at it rationally to come up with solutions which will come again with time. Self help books, philosophy, anything that can help and actively pursue it. Nothing’s changed, life goes on, youre just a little wiser now. The great thing about humans is that we have brains, and i know you have a good one. So use it. You’re lost right now but you’ll start being able to look at shit rationally and figure it out. The greatest thing I ever learned how to do was use my brain to my advantage not against it. Everything you’re feeling now every fear, every regret can be processed into joy and optimism’s, into solutions. If you let it.

“We have various abilities, present in all rational creatures as in the nature of rationality itself. And this is one of them. Just as nature takes every obstacle, every impediment, and works around it- turns it to its purpose, incorporates it into itself- so, too, a rational being can turn each setback into raw material and use it to achieve its goal.
-Marcus Aurelius

I have no mistakes because i have no goals to misstep from.

Well then you’re asking the wrong questions and looking for solutions when you don’t even have all the pieces to put together to see the bigger picture.

Did you go through a particularly hard period of really dark thoughts and feelings? What was it that made it click that you needed to change and made you take the steps to do so?
Aren’t some mistakes unfixable? Pain passes eventually but some things linger and you just hide it under other distractions because it’s more comfortable that way.
I don’t seem to learn from my mistakes since my life starting from my teens is basically a long string of failures and lack of motivation.

What does that even mean

How can anyone tell you what to be passionate about. Passion is an inner drive to actively seek something regardless of the obstacles. If you can’t find something to be passionate about, your not looking hard enough. The world can’t hold your hand and coddle you, you need realize that.
If you can’t find passion at all, the questions you should be asking is

Who am I? What do I want? Where do I want to go? Why am I not able to overcome these feelings?

Start off simple, ask yourself right now, what’s your favorite color? (I don’t have one is horseshit, everyone has a color they prefer to wear). Ask yourself simple questions. You spend so much time trying to live up to an expectation, that you forget to listen to yourself and that’s how people end up lost and passionless.

Thats notmy problem at all. I dont have a favorite color. I dont really give a shit. I have zero expectations im trying to live to.

If you don’t give a shit, why would you even care or want to ask if not having passions is a problem. Just fucking live then.

Thats awful...

Let me give you some perspective. Im a 9/10 in terms of looks, great thinker, great musician, compassionate, strong, wise. I’ve experienced more tragedy in my life by the time I was 12 than a lot of people in a lifetime. And I’m thankful for all the wisdom it brought me but not so much for all the mental issues it also caused me. Molested, beaten, diagnosed with cancer and lived, my mom died.my father turned to alchohol shortly after. All by the time I was 12. I developed sex and porn addiction, drug addiction, isolated myself, feeling utterally alone. I pushed any woman who ever showed any interest in me away out of fear and shame. I’m 23 now. All my friends left me. I loved a girl once a year ago who ran off with my best friend. The friends I had left all left me shortly after. I have no one but the haunting reminder that as a kid I was perfect and destined for greatness but life happened. I let fear, pain, pleasure, consume me. I can’t control that those things happened to me but i did the opposite of what I should’ve done. I ran away. I’ve been running my whole life. And now I’m finally dealing with all of it. The problems that i developed running away and the problems that i was running away from. I had no choice, it was either deal with this shit or literally kill myself. And i wasn’t going to let that be it. So I chose to deal with it. I’ve been working Everyday for the past year to process it all. Working on controlling my over active mind. Dealing with every insecurity. I’ve been a monk for the past year. And I’m healing, I’m stronger, more confident, recognizing any problems that may arise and stopping them when they do. ive Been retraining my mind. My thoughts, harnessing confidence instead of neuroticism. I realized my biggest problem was actually my own thought patterns. I realized I needed control back over my life, and the thing that had most control over me wasn’t sex or any drug, it was my own thoughts.

This. If you're able-bodied and of average ability, you're capable of doing a lot. Discipline is a skill and the majority of people don't have it. So if you apply yourself, congratulations, you just became above-average.

>What makes you think that?
Experience.

>Who beats who between a gifted person who works hard and an average person who works hard?
I never talked about this. I talked about someone who's "average" but puts in work as compared to someone who's intelligent and does fuckall. And as someone who's almost done with grad school, I can tell you that you'd be surprised how many people are not taking their studies even half seriously.
With that being said, if OP's intelligent enough to get accepted to university, he's probably intelligent enough to finish it, too.

>What did you do to change?
Had a lecture that was actually interesting. Wanted to put in some actual effort. Got a good enough result that I wanted to keep trying. Took that attitude to my B. Sc. thesis the next semester (on a topic I originally didn't like that much). The more work I put in, the more I got into it, and I eventually finished that one with honors. Got me super motivated and while I didn't get straight A's during my Master's, putting in work, staying curious and being nice to people got me really good grades and contacts to an ivy league work group that I wouldn't have gotten otherwise
TL;DR Curiosity + Good work ethic + Not being afraid to ask = Success and references

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What if nothings interested me

Dunno man, I'm very easy to fascinate, as it turns out. From what I've witnessed, everyone has a "niche" that they fit in. Some find it early in their life, some find it later. Only thing is important is to keep looking. You can learn a lot about yourself even by just knowing what you don't like. Kinda like back in high school where even if you weren't in a particular group like cheerleaders or emos, you defined parts of your identity by which groups/people/subjects you didn't like. YouTube can also send you down enormous rabbit holes, a lot of niche channels are super wholesome and interesting enough to try their hobbies out for some time. Many people also end up in "hobbies" that are pure consumerism (have you ever noticed how many girls name "Netflix" as a hobby?!), but the ones that are productive — like making music, doing sports, gardening etc. — are way more fulfilling, at least for me.
Pretty sure you'll find your poison, man. Just keep digging. A lot of it is trial and error, too.

Become a trap

Shut the fuck up you self-righteous piece of shit.

Seething

Get a dirt bike.

Start working at something and get good at it. You'd be surprised but success very rarely is achieved by talent.
No, in fact commitment, grit, stick-to-it-ivness, and learning when something isn't working (too much effort in for too little out), work ethic, and planning, are all traits of the successful.

Critics? Only if they offer something useful as constructive criticism should you consider it.

Stop basing your self esteem on others' rejections or acceptances.

Now is the time to reevaluate and start to see things as they actually are. You have had that moment most of us have upon growing up.

What this user said here...except
>that's absolutely autistic
err I'd say folly instead of autistic... cuz I actually have a friend with aspergers who knew this lesson all along and tried to teach it to me...eventually I got it in his absence. As accidentally blunt and literal as he is...he never judged me.