Politically I don't identify as a member of any side, but it wouldn't surprise me if I leaned towards the right. That being said, why does it seem like if you don't conform to the mainstream idea of promoting diversity, feminism, etc you become unfuckable? Is it the whole nice guy persona, that they're expected to be that way. And the only way I can break through and express my own thoughts while retaining a sex life is to continue working out more and become more masculine?
Every relationship I've had, every sex partner with the exception of maybe two has been some left leaning hipster type. I don't have a problem with that, everything just feels so black and white. What's your take?
Because I would never want to be around much less fuck someone who didn't outright denounce the values the right are currently demonstrating in the US.
Henry Long
100% all of their values and opinions though? To the point where it would overshadow your view of their personality or potential qualities?
Carson Mitchell
I am traditionally conservative (not "pilled" of any sort) and I have a girlfriend. There are plenty of girls at your church. Meet them. They are lonely and looking for a guy with traditional values.
My gf has 3 roommates (they share a house for 4 people) and all of them are extremely lonely because they can't find anyone with their shared values.
Jace Hall
I don't know if you live in the US, but if someone here didn't blatantly say what Trump specifically is doing is wrong, I would think a lot less of them as a responsible citizen. This includes if they "aren't interested in politics," which just comes off as not caring about other people and being intellectually lazy.
Brandon Parker
I do live in the US. It's pretty lazy to assume someone isn't a responsible citizen etc over the fact they misalign with your set of opinions. That's what rubs me the worst about people like you.
Blake Harris
>That being said, why does it seem like if you don't conform to the mainstream idea of promoting diversity, feminism, etc you become unfuckable You hang out around too many liberals. If a woman really likes you then such things don't matter. A lot of people , in fact, will fetishize opposites. A know a lot of guys / girls from far left/right whatever groups who desperately want to fuck someone from the opposite side.
Hell, I kind of want to know what fucking some Marxist chick would be like. I've come close a few times to banging one... would've done it too if I really felt like spiting their boyfriend's.
Andrew Lewis
"not interested in politics" is code for being a Trump supporter in lib areas. Actually admitting it publicly is a great way to be let go in the next round of layoffs, passed up for promotions, excluded socially (if you're a millennial, an extremely liberal generation), or maybe even targeted for harassment by radicals until you're fired. >I'm not interested in politics, but I don't "freak out" whenever I hear Trump's name Is essentially saying you're pro Trump
Jacob James
That's simply it. A lot of my friends and I are musicians, so of course that's the dominant mindset. At the same time, I dont like the conservative nut jobs that think China is gonna fuck us in the ass or that the wall will solve everything anymore than I like I just want a balance man, it feels like my arms are being pulled out if my sockets. I look pretty left, then I open my mouth it's over. That's why I'm one of those "I'm not into politics" types. I dont want to alienate my people of the opposing side, but I dont want to walk on egg shells.
James Lewis
No, see you sound like the conservative people I mentioned in I don't believe I will lose my job for saying that. No offense, but that sounds like NEET talk.
Jack Scott
You have to redpill them bucko. If they can't debate you or challenge their ideas they're not worth keeping around on the long run anyways
Alexander Foster
I agree, but in a "see if this person is flexible enough to understand both viewpoints".
Aaron King
Yes, all of their ancient values. Personality won't matter if there isn't a base level of respect to sex, females, the economy, and the enviornment. You deserve the crazy conservative women, you brought this on yourself for thinking that way.
Isaiah Hernandez
>. I dont want to alienate my people of the opposing side, but I dont want to walk on egg shells. Then get to know them as individuals. Some of my best friends are people I would take up arms against when it really comes down to it. Many people would call me a Nazi of some kind of I were to have an in depth conversation with them, yet most only know me as someone they can depend on or trust. Life is complicated like that.
I wouldnt be so worried about maintaining a fake image in this life. Own your own opinions, just don't be so naive as to let collective judgements alienate the individual circumstance of a person. Sex, especially passionate sex, is pretty individual thing. You'd be surprised at some of the weird matches people have made.
Brandon Bailey
Knowing you, you've probably banged a score of men "with ancient values" without even knowing, lel. Well, at least you're enabled to do so by your enlightened intelligence.
Maybe you shouldn't tripfag so hard on an anonymous forum
Camden Hall
> All conservatives lack a base level of respect towards women > the crazy conservative women
> All people who don't think like me are pieces of shit.
How's that comfy black and white blanket keeping you warm?
Jose Ramirez
If guys like to lie for a few minutes of me torturing them, it is what it is. Not like I'd allow them to breed with me, they don't deserve that luxury.
Ayden Myers
>Not like I'd allow them to breed with me, they don't deserve that luxury >Breeding with a whore We don't live in an age of concubines anymore, in the new age you're good for a lay and that's about it. A genetic dead all said and done. Not any better than an incel in all honestly lmao
Luis Bennett
I think that may be the ultimatum. As the thread continues, it's becoming more evident that this is all really the way people think and unfortunately I do have to setup some sort of fake image. I think all socially active people are somewhat fake and that's really what it takes to have a dynamic relationship.
And I see it everywhere. When I'm with my boys or eating lunch with coworkers, almost guys take off their hats. The ones that keep them on get labeled nazi autists or whatever.
Brody Jones
>Promiscuous whores are leftists, and leftists are crazy Duh
Luke Harris
Kek, that was a bit rude. I wouldnt be so quick to judge hundreds of millions of people if I were you. Seems a bit hypocritical seeing as how you're an egalitarian of some note.
Jeremiah Howard
Look at the shallow, provincial yanks. The best part? Obama was MORE radically anti-immigrant when he ran for election and Obama is the one that starting putting kids in cages, etc. Trumo *improved* conditions and is arresting/deporting *fewer* people. Liberals just hate. t. not an American
Dominic Gray
Because if you don’t fit into their group identity, your the opposite of them, not different. That’s what they think anyway.
Carson Perez
>We don't live in an age of concubines anymore Says the poorfag incel. >depreciative comment about female sexuality There's those true colors. >adding lmao at the end Cry more It's very Gray. :)
Brayden Moore
>Democraps are the REAL conservatives >heh, let's own the libs by being more liberal than any of them even want. BASED
Nathaniel Rivera
You >crazy conservative women Reality >Modest, demure women with self-esteem and no need to fuck for validation let me guess, you have 4+ tats, 4+ piercings, and chlamydia, right?
Asher Stewart
Don't think that's what black and white means.
Andrew Hughes
Trip >a girl that will break the rules Reality >she thinks and acts exactly like the women around her and hates women who do not confirm to her expectations
Parker Myers
You shouldn't strive to be like the people around you, you ought to strive to be better than them. A man among men, that sort of thing.
It would be awfully limiting to yourself to simply blend into a crowd whenever convenient for you. People who just follow a crowd like that prefer to be lead so they can keep following out of convenience and habit.
Lucas Nelson
>implying being 'redpilled' is equated with masculinity nice bait, fuckwit, but you can be an anarcho-commie and alpha af
Typical retarded yank. You know the difference between American Democrats and American Republicans? Whther college students are mad or stoned.
Adrian Ross
Retards aren't alpha, retard
Alexander Reyes
>wah rude you don't consider brainlet conservative men, how are you egalitarian? Buddy, I can exclude brainlets as a whole from my dating pool and still think they should have opportunities and rights of their own kind. They're just not my taste, and very frequently not other's either.
Luis Reed
>Poorfag I come from some money actually. >Incel That ship sailed a long time ago, sweetie. >true females sexuality is ad infinitum hedonism and polyamory Maybe you're just conflating yourself with what true sexuality is meant to be? A lot of people would consider you to be a fairly weak woman, considering your strength in life is only sleeping with a man. Let's be honest, it's not too hard to do that now is it?
Logan Rivera
>Every relationship I've had, every sex partner with the exception of maybe two has been some left leaning hipster type. Given that you're also promiscuous garbage, it's unsurprising that you associate with such types. Get over yourself, you aren't "conserving" jack shit.
>You know the difference between American Democrats and American Republicans? About 15 years, then the latter will support the earlier policies of the former and claim they're 'conserving' something other than their donors' pocketbooks.
Hunter Hughes
>let me guess, you have 4+ tats, 4+ piercings, and chlamydia, right? That's hilarious, you'd never guess. :)
Carter Myers
>>wah rude you don't consider brainlet conservative men, how are you egalitarian? Lel, I was taking about myself. Guess you're just too egocentric to consider when someone else would admit a mistake eh? >Brainlets Wait, so you're saying you're not intelligent than Heidegger, Werner Von Braun, Ortega y Gasset, Edmund Burke, and etc rightists?
Don't you think that's a bit narcissistic?
Joshua Richardson
Really? I see nothing in being alpha that excludes the lower end of the cognitive function strata. There are, however, strong links between being dumb and being racist and right wing. Conservatives are not necessarily any of those, in fact, most right wing views i see these days are radical.
Politicians and pundits don't count as any of these because they have no values. Most are stone sociopaths and just say things to get a result or the upper hand.
Maybe instead of conforming to either side for pussy I should just sit back and watch them bicker :)
Gavin Cruz
>Guy who think that racists and right wing beliefs are correlates with stupidity believes that all politicians and pundits are sociopaths who lie to the public for their own gain I wonder if you even realize how ironic that is
Nolan Robinson
>A lot of people would consider you to be a fairly weak woman, considering your strength in life is only sleeping with a man. When have I said that I only rely on sleeping with guys? Being good at it =/= Dependent
James Campbell
And in the meantime Democrats switch from >make everything legal to >make everything illegal then back again, yes. Like I said, no difference
Hunter Reyes
>he thinks he got it right >pic >you're not intelligent than
Then what are you good at? At any time I've ever talkes with you, it's been about the inner politics of your friends circle, usually involving you sleeping with x,y, or , and you lording yourself over other people by virtue of behaving in a way a lot of people associate with animalistic behavior.
You seem too obsessed to have many other real talents that make you a person of note.
Grayson Morgan
A simple >yes would have sufficed
Jayden Diaz
Only retards think retards are top of the heap Also High school drop outs = 85% leftist 4 year college degree = 65% conservative
*More intelligent than Seems we're both on mobile so you should be able to relate. Do you really think you're smarter than those man by the mere fact that you like hedonism? There have been many more successful and intelligent people before you who totally oppose everything you are.
It just seems like a narcissistic assumption to make. Almost a Dunning Kruger
Austin Reyes
You're right, the solution is to make a trap and spend all free hours of the day arguing with invisible people on a self help forum. That sounds healthy
Nolan Green
>You seem too obsessed to have many other real talents that make you a person of note. You have a very special way of considering how much of myself I care to convey with my trip as opposed to noticing anything else. :) This probably stems from your own opinions clouding your other two braincells.
Aaron Hall
Alright then, let's be direct. What do you do besides with sleep with a lot of men that makes you special in any way? I'm genuinely curious.
It's an anonymous forum after all
Juan Gutierrez
>Do you really think you're smarter than those man by the mere fact that you like hedonism? There have been many more successful and intelligent people before you who totally oppose everything you are. aka >There are dead people that hated a freedom for existing, they lived once and should continue to be relevant. Are you spooked that they existed? Wow, that's absolutely retarded. I can't believe I felt like translating that. I feel so dirty.
Dylan James
I'm not a mod, just OP but please leave lmao. I was having fun watching this but not it's kinda bumming me out.
Idk you, but I've seen you a lot and have done what you're stuck in plenty of times and I know you are not overall having a good time lurking and arguing.
You dont find it a little ironic you do this on a self help forum?
Lucas Anderson
In women promiscuity (defined as more than 6 total lifetime partners) is directly correlated with: Mental illness; single motherhood; STDs; lifelong poverty; addiction; being the victim of violent crime; being the victim of domestic violence (separate from violent crime); sterility; suicide; and incarceration. In women promiscuity is very literally a warning sign.
Alexander James
Well, if you’re christpilled, then sex is permitted only in marriage. This fact makes me feel bad, because I fornicated with my ex-gf for three years.
Nathaniel Powell
>hated a freedom for existing *Thought it wasn't a freedom, it was a malignant behavior that people ought to control akin to controlling other various impulses. Are you really just that ignorant of a person?
Owen Barnes
Please show me where there is a law against having multiple nonmarital sexual relationships? Also since when has the government ever been in the bedroom outside of marital contracts?
Robert Myers
Protip: Anything can be correlated to traumas and mental illnesses. This isn't news. >In women promiscuity is very literally a warning sign. That they enjoy sex. Water is wet.
Adam Allen
Haha who is this insecure woman Mad AF hahaha
Isaiah Evans
Translation >Obviously I wil be forgotten by even my family within a few years and cannot compete with some of the greatest thinkers of all time
Lincoln Gonzalez
She won't leave my thread, I told her it was for her own good. Now she's captain of a sinking post.
Oliver Allen
>Anything can be correlated to traumas and mental illnesses Wrong and frankly stupid. Look at being devoutly religious (defined as going to worship no less than once a week; praying at least every day; volunteering time and energy to religious activities at least once a month) is correlated with >Being healthier, happier, being less likely to be anxious, depressed, or to suffer from mental illness; less likely to commit suicide; less prone to violence or domestic violence; less likely to be a victim of domestic violence; a longer lifespan; if married more frequent sex and sex of higher quality
Being married, correlated with: >better health, less anxiety; less depression, longer life; more frequent sex; sex of higher quality Being a stay at home mother, correlated with >highest level of job satisfaction recorded with women; less depression; more satisfaction with your spouse/partner The most hilarious thing? 60 years of scholarly research with multivariate longitudinal studies repeated prove that the women experiencing the highest quality of sex and the highest frequency of sex are conservative married women, and they are FAR less likely to be beaten or emotionally abused by their partners. Anything else you want to be stupid about, whore?
Robert Evans
>cannot compete with some of the greatest thinkers of all time >thinks a bunch of people that said ideas similar to his own are the top quoted and most googled Nah, you're dreaming of pipes, and that's gay.
Blake Allen
There are a lot of laws against certain kinds of sexual relationships around the world? Are you really just so ignorant of global politics and international culture?
Also, you're avoiding my question. Why do you consider yourself more intelligent against world renowned intellectuals by the mere fact that you don't agree with them on the topic of sexual promiscuity? Why do you inherently associated idiots with people who disagree with you when, clearly, there are intelligent people who don't agree with you?
Carter Gray
>muh google Translation >school was hard, tee hee
Wyatt Martin
>Anything else you want to be stupid about, Sounds like you enjoy reading tabloid statistics, and not quoting them. :)
Ethan Harris
>Why do you consider yourself more intelligent against world renowned intellectuals by the mere fact that you don't agree with them on the topic of sexual promiscuity? I've conducted my own private study, and results are opposing. >Why do you inherently associated idiots with people who disagree with you when, clearly, there are intelligent people who don't agree with you? Someone that has different/lacking experiences and that has arrived at other conclusions wouldn't relate with me, so I have no need to relate to them.
Ayden Morales
>I do not know what the word quoting means FTFY you are the gift that keeps on giving.
Hunter Hall
The only thing making you unlockable is being attractive.
Hudson Edwards
>I've conducted my own private study, and results are opposing. >I consider myself more intelligent, therefore I must be more intelligent Good lord
Aiden Lopez
People who fit into the system and run through it's hoops are conservative? Pretty reasonable conclusion. Retard means delayed or halted development, you're just using it as a catch-all insult. There's more factors to life than IQ but yeah, racists are usually dumber.
t. self employed, no degree, 93rd percentile for IQ according to mensa
Dylan Walker
what a punchable face
Parker Ward
What a Semitic post
Ayden Cook
fuck you baby fatass
Asher Morales
Women will generally always lean more towards conformity/political correctness than men will. It's a woman's job to fit in as much as humanly possible, because if a woman is outcast or killed, the human species suffers a huge loss.
Think about it like this.
Men = Sperm-makers. Risky men that question authority and the status qou might be complete failures, but that's not a huge loss because they're just sperm makers, lots of sperm to go around. However, if a man turns out to be some kind of avant-garde genius that pushes humanity forward, it's a huge win, biologically speaking.
Women = Baby-makers. Objectively speaking, a single woman is far more valuable than a single man. Because she can only produce 1-2 babies at a time. This means women will play it safe, because nature has hardwired into her brain "You are valuable, don't go try something stupid". She will reject men that threaten her social structure and stability.
However, if a woman feels that a man is strong enough to protect her, despite his crazy ideals, she will be incredibly attracted to him, because he's a potential grade-A Alpha male that simply does not give a shit. Which is why legitimately crazy people like Charles Manson managed to have a harem of women.
P.S: I shouldn't even have to say this, but human beings are still human beings, aka animals capable of self-reflection and being their own individuals. But it's GOOD to think about the underlying animalistic behaviors that ultimately fuel our lives and work from there.
Easton Peterson
Anyone with enough education to read who is not mentally handicapped yet is a communist or anarchist is one of 1) a fool 2) morally bankrupt 3) a would-be tyrant 4) some combination of 1, 2, and 3
Evan Ramirez
>lefties >getting woman lmao
Juan Long
>talking about politics with women you're dating Hard yikes from me dawg. Hide that powerlevel
James Taylor
Good post dude.
Ethan Stewart
I say Im not interested in politics, but make appropriate disgust noises when that name comes up I done good?
Cooper Morris
Lol you mean repressed broken and fragile child-women Yeah, I know what those look like Im a typical 'bad' girl and those fuckin church girls FLOCKED to me to learn because newsflash TRADITIONAL VALUES OPPRESS WOMEN and as soon as they realized they could.make their own choices, they fucking did
Charles Hill
>think China is gonna fuck us in the ass >think
Ryder Parker
>and as soon as they realized they could.make their own choices, they fucking did kek, reminds me of "torches of freedom" campaigns telling women to start smoking. They're only "freed" of morality by degenerates determined to make sure they don't go back. The only difference is in which value system they're held to--and it's an objective fact that they're worse off under hedonist tutelage.
ftp.iza.org/dp4200.pdf >"measures of subjective well-being indicate that women's happiness has declined both absolutely and relative to men. The paradox of women's declining relative well-being is found across various datasets, measures of subjective well-being, and is pervasive across demographic groups and industrialized countries. Relative declines in female happiness have eroded a gender gap in happiness in which women in the 1970s typically reported higher subjective well-being than did men."
Elijah Peterson
you are unfuckable because you come across as a crybaby you are also on the level 4chin knowledge and thats even lower than an avarage thot
so you are a stupid, unintelligent baby who complains a well known antidote of wet vaginas
Owen Stewart
Complete bullshit.
If being red pill genuinly makes you feel less desirable to women, it's probably because you're bitter or something. A true red pill who knows how to apply his red pilled knowledge to his life, tends to become MORE attractive towards women. Mostly because red pill teaches you how to become more alpha, assertive and succesful.
William Stewart
Can you hook me up with one of them?
Julian Lewis
It's the opposite you fucking retard Girls love an alpha, not some bluepilled cuck basedboy. Even the craziest of feminazis who cry about "muh patriarchy" go out to clubs hoping to get choked by a MAGA hat wearing ripped Chad. If you're not getting laid it's because you're a being a spineless centrist, not because you're conservative.
Michael Nelson
turns out that when you hate women women also hate you. surprising i know
Ethan Johnson
>Rejection of black and white thinking just feels so black and white Based and redpilled
John Walker
>subjective well-being is in no way more important than the freedom to make choices.
if you disagree you'd actually be the hedonist since you prefer happiness over the value of freedom
Kayden Gomez
/thread
Aaron Brooks
All the liberal chicks I know regularly get fucked by or are in relationships with conservative guys. My single cop and military friends are regularly hate fucking blue haired leftists. That's not to say that's the case always but it shows that something is there. I mean the one chick I know, who regularly cheats on her beta male 'I used to be a line cook but now I'm working on a music performance degree :)' bf, I've known for a fact to bang traditionally conservative guys. Many of these women desire someone who is independent, doesn't care about being PC, knows who they are, etc. Not to mention conservative men are typically more likely to have regular income, exercise, and have visible confidence. This doesn't even factor in non-political and conservative women.
Eli Wright
Yes, it's 'subjective', just like the exercise of choice--at least, that's the case when you consider the issue abstractly. Freedom of choice is a fantasy in practice, since the bounds of possibility are well outside of an individual's control.
>well-being is in no way more important than the freedom to make choices. We can go around in circles indefinitely if you're simply going to state that 'freedom' is your fundamental principle of being. I value stability and happiness. On that note, a situation where certain actions are discouraged or even banned in public does not remove the capability to perform them for those so inclined. It simply puts the onus on degenerates to be that way, while having the option that maximizes well-being as the default.
>if you disagree you'd actually be the hedonist since you prefer happiness over the value of freedom There is also a difference between instantaneous pleasure and overall satisfaction/contentment. When people are asked "how happy are you with your life", the question isn't asking how their last cocaine-fueled orgasm with a cross-dressing stranger felt. It's the difference between seeking to fulfill desires and considering one's desires fulfilled (or simply not having further desires).
Manwhores aren't "traditionally conservative". The 'closest' they can be is fiscally conservative, which isn't really conserving anything at all.
Jace Hernandez
It's over. Period.
Adam Phillips
idk bro i get a lot of SJW pussy and i'm basically a communist
Thomas Sullivan
>why does it seem like if you don't conform to the mainstream idea of promoting diversity, feminism, etc you become unfuckable? I think it just seems that way, or you are in a very liberal place. I don't have a problem with liberals in general but they are a little sensitive about Trump. It is the progressives that are insane and impossible to talk to without it ending in a massive argument. Those people are just a small minority though, most people are chill and don't lose their minds because of ideas, or God forbid a word they don't like.
Thomas Baker
Nobody ever fantasized about getting tied up and fucked by a vegan communist, OP.
If pretending to agree with the mainstream was the key to getting laid, all these high-profile "male feminists" wouldn't have to keep raping people.