I see some boards being flooded with "just have sex" or "fuck off incel" but is it really that necessary? I know, being around women feels awesome, touching them, having sex (something i haven't experienced yet, but i'm not even trying to do so). Okay, you have sex. What's next? I bet everyone had the feeling of "okay, that was awesome. not what i expected but it was awesome, but what now?" Exactly, what then? Life goes on, nothing significant happens. Women's acceptance, appreciation, adoration towards you feels awesome, powerful. But is it really that big of a deal?
A true love with true chemistry between 2 people happens very rarely, especially in the way where they complete each other.
So many successful men throughout history were gay or avoided women.
2 most genius men (imo) of all time - Da Vinci (homosexual) and Nikola Tesla (avoided women). So many successful people right now are either gay (fashion industry) or avoid women. Are they only distracting men from being the best versions of themselves, from achieving greatness?
Do men really need women?
Not every man will be a great inventor/innovator nor need to be attached to a woman to be complete.
It's not women. It's human contact. Fucking just seems to be the pinnacle everyone decided on.
No, men want women, they don't need them
They can be a nice addition, but unlike many women out there, the opposite sex is not going to pay our bills
>thinking he can be the next Da Vinci/Tesla
>asks anonymous if women are worth
ooof
Sex is categorically overrated and you can live fine without it. What you cannot live without is human connection, and women can give you this in abundance as they are usually very expressive, emotional and childlike, that’s why it feels so good to be around women who accept you.
Think how many things women oblige men to do or be. Then keep in mind that your efficiency at a specific task decrease the more you are multi-tasking, you have your answer.
Being hyper intelligent probably helps regulate and understand the constant flow of chemicals and pressure placed on your anatomy. Unfortunately for the rest of us the aching for intimacy doesn't relieve itself unless you specifically as an individual have a naturally altered neural deficiency. I think companionship as necessity is more apparent. Its biology. Sex is a major pillar of this design too tho, even if it's purely a physical attraction; its like momentary fusing.
No one personally designed the piping, it just kinda is.
>I know, being around women feels awesome, touching them, having sex (something i haven't experienced yet, but i'm not even trying to do so).
Love that you're sitting there questioning something that you haven't even experienced yet while also pretending to be a historical genius. There's even more successful men in history who weren't weird closet homos who wanted to fuck pigeons.
Da Vinci is ridiculously overrated and Tesla was legit insane. There are barely any successful gay men and the fashion industry doesn't count for shit. Most intelligent would sooner be Newton, Leibniz, Goethe and Gauss. The first two never married either, though, and I don't know about the last two.
>Women's acceptance, appreciation, adoration towards you feels awesome, powerful. But is it really that big of a deal?
If you have the mental fortitude to go through life alone, focused on productive work, then go ahead, keep away from women. Most guys need some sort of comfort and motivation, and having a wife and family is a great way of getting there. For me, a womanless existance seems bleak and boring, but you do you.
I can't post in my own threads
what's wrong with it?
how can i fix it
oh it's working now, at the top. lol. normal reply after i click on someone's No. doesn't work.
I'm not trying to say it's the one way or the other, i'm just questioning it, because i think women are really overrated nowadays. The way i look at it is a buddy will give you anything a girlfriend would give you, but more. Of course except of sex, and that's the only reason i'd date a woman. I haven't met a girl in my life that she would be worth of having a long term relationship with. They are either untrustworthy, dumb, too sensitive or just flat out not intrusting. And their humor is probably the worst part of it all. I don't think i ever laughed at girl's joke or story, maybe only at their stupidity.
Btw. I'm not gay.
>i'm just questioning it, because i think women are really overrated nowadays.
You say this as someone who's never been with a woman. You get a gold star.
I only said i never had sex. Jesus Christ, i really can't discuss anything on this board unless i say i fucked girls of every race every height every weight every beauty type every skin tone color every tits size etc. I don't need to ACTUALLY be in a long time relationship to notice that, i see that in everyday's life, i hear that from stories from literally everyone. The amount of couples that i know where the girl is worthy of loving i could count on 1 hand.
I think your examples are faulty to begin with.
People who are extremely intelligent struggle to relate to others in general, and their intelligence bounds them to live a rather solitary life. It's not that they became geniuses because they had no contact with women, but that they had little or no contact with others because they were geniuses.
Most people aren't geniuses, tho, and no amount of celibacy will turn them into Leonardo da Vinci.
I also think that while no one *needs* love, sex, or close relationships to survive, it can deeply enrich our lives and make our existence a little more bearable. Living life alone, without ever experiencing closeness to other people, goes against our very nature.
Especially for men, since they don't tend to have a social network that provides for them emotionally, having a woman to be there for you when you need empathy and comfort can be a big deal.
Then, you do you.
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These two posts are the ones you want OP. This whole "MGTOW makes geniuses" thing you're touching on is a red herring, but you're also right about sex itself being really overrated. Try not to get hung up about it, but also try to get out there a little
Naw man, we can just go gay. Dude. Just blow your guy buddy's dicks it's the best.
homosexual sex is the best
We just want people on the internet to stop being such one-trick ponies.
what do you mean?
not Jow Forums
Unironicly this, gay bj's are way better than regular bj's. Recieving anal sex is a wonderfull feeling as well. I know because I used to be gay myself. Women make better partners though so that makes up for it. I wouldn't ever date a guy, a woman however I would date. Eventhough they generally distract, keep me from going to the gym, have me waisting all my savings on banal shit I never needed. Want go out for dinner tonight hun? No dear, I'd rather be riding cock. I will have to keep this a secret for the rest of my life. Though I'm sure I can be happy again someday. First I have to improve myself, read some books, get my lifts up. Then I'll ask her out, I hope she's someone I connect with. No compromise. Not like the previous relationships. I feel like I can almost see the light at the end of the tunnel friends, thank you :)
how can getting fucked in the ass be a good feeling by any means lol
Most men need them because they're weak. Women however don't need men, and they're slowly waking up to that realization, hence why remaining single is increasingly popular.
You'd be suprised.
Are you really curious how it ever coukd feel good? Maybe willing to disprove the whole thing based on experiences you've had yourself? Then go lay down on your stomach, lube up you asshole, then shove your thumb straight down. Try to press towards your ballsack. Maybe move your thumb up and down the lining a bit whilst your still pressing down. Then come back and tell me that getting fucked in the ass would feel "o so horrible".
Your anus contains your prostate gland, stimulation of which is the only way a man can achieve a full body orgasm
>most men are weak
>Men need women because we need women to reproduce
>Reproduction is one of the, if not THE most important aspect of feeling fulfilled in life
Do i need to say more? You're literally put on this earth to reproduce and raise your children. Your body and brain chemistry is heavily desinged solely for this purpose. If you never have women in your life, you will not fulfill the no.1 thing you're designed to do. This will inevitable lead to you feeling empty and dissatisfied as you grow older.
>2 most genius men (imo) of all time - Da Vinci (homosexual) and Nikola Tesla (avoided women).
Ok so what? Were they happy? Who knows they could have been depressed as fuck for all you know.
Only when society has reached a high enough stage of material development to prop them up. The vast majority of independent women, objectively speaking, are a net drain on society, nothing they do for work is actually productive most of the time and by the time they're dead they've soaked up more resources than they've put out while not giving society what they were traditionally expected to give it (children). If shit hits the fan this century because we aren't able to deal with the systemic problems we're seeing mount right now, these people will go back to being dishwashers and probably get turned into rapeslaves after the system's terminal contraction is complete. It's likely temporary.
I'm not going to caress and cherish even my best, male friend. When I'm old and bent, I'd rather be surrounded by the happiest, red-headed children and grandchildren on the planet than even the most fantastic of whatever hypothetical works I could have produced.
At the end of the day, it's not a matter of "need." We don't "need" to do anything but eventually die. Life is about what we WANT to do, however. I want to hold a woman, and I can't help that.
Anyone who implies sex is some sort of insight is beyond fucking retarded, though. The dumbest cockroaches on the planet can fuck. Spergs, and especially ugly spergs, have a hard time with it because they're risk averse and act like robots.
They're comforting but not necessary.
"are they only distracting men from being the best versions of themselves"
They aren't doing anything, men do it to themselves.
Its simple shit.
the issue is so many men focus their time and energy into women.
"time to get fit so i can get laid"
"i'm going to make a tinder and spend x amount of time on it so i can get vagina"
you focus your energy into what should matter. Your goals, aspirations, ideas. If your constantly dumping your time and energy into women your wasting your time. The issue isnt having a wife or girlfriend or enjoying sex. the issue is dedicating your life to it. The issue is half the posts on this board are "how do i get a gf." As if a woman's going to fix their problems, make them less alone, help them achieve something. As if getting a girlfriend is the life achievement or some shit. Don't grow bitter and turn away from women like the incels but dont buy the "bro unless youre married and have kids at 30 youre a loser" narrative either. Theyre both a joke. Women are great, sex is great, that intimacy great. You dont need a woman to feel like a man, you dont need a woman at all. And if you can fully internalize that i think that's where you can live a rewarding life. and truly appreciate women to not need them but to enjoy them for what they can provide.
Men are sexually attracted to women in a same manner rats are attracted to triggering switches in laboratory experiments. Rats get heroine shots after triggering the right switch, whereas men get dopamine shots in form of sex.
This is why mankind still exists.
Beyond sexual urge, men need love just as women do, but you can do without it.
Also bare fact if scoring a girl can also heal up your ego if you're insecure.
Regarding latter part of your post, women require commitment. You need to spend fair amount of time with them doing mostly unproductive things. If you want to achieve something great either in sport science, business you need to fully commit to exercises, research, work. Being with woman you basically have not enough time for this, not to mention where you also need to raise kids.
I have a lot of sex by accident (i.e. the woman wants it more than I do.)
I would agree it adds nothing to my life really. It gives me somewhere to relax I guess, be slightly vulnerable but not too much because any sign of weakness (emotion) will scare her off and make her resent you.
Honestly, I can’t say I’d be better if I were a virgin my entire life, because being with women had helped me adjust and understand society better. I would say being celibate would help as a lot of energy is wasted fapping to and cumming in these whores. If I could find a way to control/focus my sex drive while simultaneously upping my overall sex appeal I feel like I’d be a lot happier. I wouldn’t be controlled by my dick and I’d have my choice of woman whenever I did want to let one out. I fap and have a sex doll but they are too readily avaliable so whenever I use them I end up cumming 5 times in a day and I’m out of energy for a week.
What I’m saying to say is, it’s not so much avoiding women that it is controlling your sex drive. This would include over masturbating, as a lot of you “genius” virgin men that “avoid women” spend a lot of time fapping to anime.
So in short:
>obtain looks, money and status so you’ll be happy whether women are in your life or not. Poor niggers have the best sex, because they are poor and it fills the void. Fill the void with success instead, you’ll be better for it.
>women require commitment.
you look like this
Actually the first time is more like "is that it?" Then your Brothers/Friends/Sisters treat you like you've been initiated and make you feel accepted. Sex can be great, but unless all parties involved are either skilled or familiar with each other it's not.
The modern castanza, a true sex god.
Turing tho.