How do you (or SHOULD) you regard people who are "inferior" to you?

you should treat everyone with dignity and respect. If their values and behaviors are far out of line with your own, then don't involve them in your life, but at the same time, don't look down on them. Everyone has had different life experiences to reach the point they're at.

When you think of people in terms of hierarchies you are acting with the maturity of a bitchy high school girl.

this is not the question and is also not the problem. the problem is people who are absolutely performing at a lower level in all facets of life. it smacks you in the face. i make expectations based on what i think is just/good/right and they cannot meet that. society has also made demands of them that they have failed. the problem is not me. the problem is they are not making a passing grade in a lot of different ways. this includes everything i detailed in the OP as well as specific tasks/duties in different jobs i have been in over time. literally every single job i have had in 7 years has placed me into a leadership role and in every single one of those jobs people actively requested i train them over everyone else. sentiments like that all people trained by me seem to receive the same level of attention/care regardless of their individual personality, that i am supportive and attentive and thorough with them and don't wander off/think of myself, etc. have been told to me both by people trained by me and superiors appointing me to be the one training or in a leadership role. the problem isnt me. maybe its you. maybe you are offended by me using the word inferior and just had some kneejerk response while ignoring me puting it in quotes to show how tentatively i am using that word. who knows. but you are answering another question i never asked.

and who are you to make these demands and judgement calls? you're projecting your insecurities onto others.

life is a constant inescapable hierarchy and your understanding of it as nothing but some weird sexist trope is shallow
jobs are a hierarchy, families/parents/children are a hierarchy, friendship groups will have a hierarchy based on specific things (one may be looked at as the leader in on activity theyre good at, and another friend as the one to defer to for another subject of interest, etc.)

if you try to escape the natural order of things you are just going to end up an anxiety filled, self esteem lacking, doormat that holds a strange believe in all things being equal despite how clearly false that is.

>you should treat everyone with dignity and respect.
i can absolutely get behind this and this is what the question is. i don't know how to do this when these people are at such a level that they do things like drink redbull while pregnant or expose small children to drugs. they are "functional" people but still lacking to a disturbing level, and then you see this reflected elsewhere: they are bad at their job, their ability to speak with tact is nonexistent, they are late all the time, they are bad with money, they are in debt, they have a string of abusive relationships, they glamourize fast food and give no fucks about their or their childrens physical health, etc.

how do you "respect" this? how do you respectfully tell someone who can barely understand shit what theyre doing is bad, when they dont even know what "bad" is? it isnt like you can get away from these people.

im not going to respond to you past this because your reading comprehension is frustratingly poor. i laid out other things about it being a requirement of a job as well as legal/societal expectations. twice now. twice now you can do nothing but make weird insults and fail to read. it is too frustrating for me to bother past this. bye.

same here op but i'm not a fucking female scum

Those people who are living badly were raised in different circumstances and exposed to different things. They never learned the proper way of doing things. We all have areas where we fall short, we should recognize that, and feel compassion for people who are on an undesirable path. If you had the same life experiences as the people you look down on, you could have become the same sort of person. So be grateful that you have had the life you have, and try to guide others rightly if they are open to being taught.

"how do you do a thing?"
"same here"
....ok.

Imagine being this dense. You might be low IQ user. Treat people with respect. Be nice to people. Just Google stoicism and thank me later.

>If you had the same life experiences as the people you look down on, you could have become the same sort of person.
i have had a really bad life with extreme misfortunes and disasters.
i am still exceeding them despite often also exceeding them in "fucked up life" points
i cant accept that as an excuse. i know other people who have worse lives and do better than them too. it can contribute but that isnt the deciding factor at all. i am huge proof of that and maybe this is why i find it more confusing/frustrating; because i cant just be like "oh maybe they came from a bad home" from my comfy suburbia home after living my comfy suburbia upbringing that lets me have a cute illusion of "bad lives make people this way! pity them! its not their fault they didnt climb out of it!"

i literally let a homeless friend of like 10 years crash with me for a while two years ago. their life was terrible. we both had very fucked up similar pasts and life experiences. we turned out vastly different. they were a homeless junkie living on my floor, having sex with random men on craigslist for meth and secretly cutting themselves when i was not around, who had been unemployed for the better part of 3 years; leeching the whole time. i was sober, employed, in a long term relationship, and climbing towards a career. they even remarked to someone else that they were confused while staying with me, because "why did we turn out so different when we were so the same as teenagers?" i am also confused.

i already know about stoicism and was thinking about epectitus when this person mentioned a bad life being the reason why (because epectitus was a slave and had a shit life).

>Treat people with respect. Be nice to people.

Is not answering "How do you (or SHOULD) you regard people who are "inferior" to you?"
Telling me "treat them with respect" also isn't telling me how to "respect" them. that same homeless person in insisted i was "shaming" them when they continuously threatened to whore themselves on craigslist if i asked them to look for work/an apartment and i told them i did not understand why they would rather do that than get an apartment, and that it was not a good thing to do. what is "respect" there? letting them do it? not saying "don't shoot yourself with heroin" and letting it happen? the solutions i am being offered are wishy washy "sounds good on paper, absolutely meaningless greeting card tier shit tho" answers like "just be nice to them!"
how the fuck do you be "nice" when faced with this shit?

The specific circumstances aren't the be all and end all of everything that occurred in your life. You also have a specific set of values and behaviors, something that enabled you to overcome your bad circumstances. But those values were a result of some circumstance as well. So we can keep regressing to finer details but ultimately, they're the result of some combination of nature/nurture, as are you, and it turned out better for you. So same as before... Be grateful for it and have compassion.

You treat others with dignity simply for the fact that theyre human. They're "human beings" and not "human doings". They have the capacity to feel joy and pain, to learn things, etc. So you "respect" them for being a human being. That's a fundamental tenent of western civilization. It's why we treat even people who are convicted of crimes with dignity and due process, whereas in China people run each other over the street and don't bat an eye. This approach allows us to have a civilized society.

>You treat others with dignity simply for the fact that theyre human. They're "human beings" and not "human doings". They have the capacity to feel joy and pain, to learn things, etc. So you "respect" them for being a human being. That's a fundamental tenent of western civilization. It's why we treat even people who are convicted of crimes with dignity and due process, whereas in China people run each other over the street and don't bat an eye. This approach allows us to have a civilized society.

There is also justice and punishment involved though. I am having a hard time finding where the line between "justice/punishment" and "disrespect" is. We know punishment will cause them some negative feeling. We still consider punishment necessary/just. So, like I said, how do you be "nice" when faced with a junkie criminal who threatens self harm when you try to get rid of them? how do you be "nice" to someone actively exposing their kids to harm? how do you be "nice" to a lousy employee? while still being just, while balancing punishment.

>So, like I said, how do you be "nice" when faced with a junkie criminal who threatens self harm when you try to get rid of them? how do you be "nice" to someone actively exposing their kids to harm? how do you be "nice" to a lousy employee?

Those circumstances call for having personal boundaries rather than infringing on the other person in any way. If a junkie threatens you, you call the police or whatever to defend yourself. If your employee is lousy, you fire them to protect your business. It isn't about looking down on them or judging them. You can fire a person and still maintain their dignity... "Look, I don't think your performing well in this job/perhaps it isn't the best for you" rather than "you're a lazy piece of shit etc." Protecting yourself doesn't require hurting or judging others. Just because someone's a junkie now, doesn't mean they will be a year from now. As a human being, they have the capacity to learn from mistakes and grow, and that's why we respect one another.

not threatening me, threatening themselves. "if you kick me out i will self-harm." you could maybe call the cops on that if they really care but theyre not really refusing to leave.

it gets more nuanced in scenarios where im in a larger hierarchy as well. ie: i am not the decider in firing/hiring employees, but i am tasked with managing them. i can complain that some employees are not fit for the job, but i am going to be required to keep them anyway and in some way forced to work with them. in this scenario i suppose i could quit and find a better job, but ive had this experience almost anytime im in a leadership role that is not THE leadership role. it seems the norm. you get required to reprimand employees. you have to train them even though they arent really fit for the job. etc. and they lie. the lying is the thing that always gets me the most. they lie so much to cover up being disobedient or incompetent.

I call them lesser beings

They need guidance and leadership. Your role on earth is to lead the people underneath you. I'm not being sly, it's a very important role. There are (fewer) people better than you, who you just as importantly depend on for their leadership.

Don't look down on them with disgust. That is the easiest and most lazy thing to do. Elevate yourself and embrace the importance of leadership.

no doubt that figuring out how to deal with others in these situations is nuanced and complex, but your ability to do it is why you're being tasked with those responsibilities. At the end of the day the subpar employees are the companies problem, you just have to do your best with the resources that are available to you.

Who the fuck do you deal with on a daily basis to have such negatives about them? Are you in some kind of addiction help center? Otherwise just keep around folk on your wavelength and stop worrying about this

>Who the fuck do you deal with on a daily basis to have such negatives about them? Are you in some kind of addiction help center?
I grew up in a really bad area and was employed there for a time. Like, I grew up around people who casually kept a dog chained out back for the community dog fight and laughed about asshole roosters. Most of my teenage friends also had problems. Neighbor boy went to prison for meth and stealing. Etc. So, yeah, sort of. I've gotten away from most of that now but still have to deal with some kind of questionable characters now. And most of the people I knew from back then or my own family are that type of person still, if I ever interact with them.

>Your role on earth is to lead the people underneath you. I'm not being sly, it's a very important role.

I've already learned this. It happens a lot. Younger people clinging to me and giving me parental nicknames, jobs placing me in trainer roles, leadership roles, small business literally asking me to just take over so they can pretty much retire, literally getting described as a guard dog, being tasked as the guardian/caretaker in my family, people always defaulting to asking me their questions first in a group and when i say why "because youre the most responsible got your shit together person i know", etc. I am everyone's mother/father.

>Don't look down on them with disgust. That is the easiest and most lazy thing to do. Elevate yourself and embrace the importance of leadership.
I am trying to understand how to do this better. The barrier I seem to be running into right now is they don't understand when I am telling them something is wrong (how i am saying it maybe?), and this leads to frustration when I see them repeatedly fail. Disgust is probably an element of the frustration though. I know with the homeless floor person I started to develop some sense of disgust after they lied to me about not bringing drugs with them, as they had agreed to, and then started whoring themselves on grindr/craigslist from my apartment. They just started to look sort of gross and diseased to me. I didn't want to look at them anymore. It seems reasonable to feel disgust when looking at something diseased though. You look at someone and go "you are a cocktail of drugs, random men's semen, and bleeding on my carpet"... how would you not feel disgust?

Also: the issue with not being able to explain to them what theyre doing wrong in any meaningful/impactful way. What can I do to be better at that; at actually leading them to the right answer?

Dude I'm sure your not dealing with rapists or murderers, just find some humour in them (like I find it funny how certain ppl from ghettos act and because I do their behaviour doesn't bother me) interact with based on their strengths and weaknesses, know their limits and push them to do better step by step.

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>(I am surely the above to someone else too)

>know their limits and push them to do better step by step.

i am having issues with the limits and proper level of pushing maybe. i think i overestimate limits and can be very incessant.

See? You're flawed in your approach with them and in turn they give you flawed results. Better yourself so you can better them instead of whining about them. You know what you have to do.

the problem is with not recognizing limits

You're not better than anyone, narc, cept maybe junkies

1. Be very pleasant
2. Be very cautious in how you share information with them. What would be a normal recounting of your days' events, triumphs etc to a normal friend might make them mega butthurt because they realize they're inferior or it seems like you're bragging
3. Avoid saying anything judgmental.

Stupid shit like "omg I got so drunk last night and I'm hungover now and I peed on my kitchen table and now my roommates are upset at me, I'm 32 btw" might meet with a rational response like "huh maybe you should have the life experience at this point to know that taking 10 shots usually ends poorly for you and have instead drank less". Yeah that's not going to help

4. Avoid spending anymore time than you need with them, as you have to be fake to even get them to be ok with you and you can't fix them.

>You're not better than anyone
>except some people

ok.

>Stupid shit like "omg I got so drunk last night and I'm hungover now and I peed on my kitchen table and now my roommates are upset at me, I'm 32 btw" might meet with a rational response like "huh maybe you should have the life experience at this point to know that taking 10 shots usually ends poorly for you and have instead drank less". Yeah that's not going to help

what do you do instead? "thats nice, i totally approve"?

>4. Avoid spending anymore time than you need with them, as you have to be fake to even get them to be ok with you and you can't fix them.
oh you address this.
i guess im starting to realize this. i think i mistakenly expected everyone to be similar to me for a while. i also really really really dont like being genuine. it feels like it degrades me.

dont like not being genuine****