My bumble date last night kept rescheduling and then was almost 30 minutes late...

My bumble date last night kept rescheduling and then was almost 30 minutes late. We had a good time though and planned a second date. I told her I'm gonna find a way for her to make it up to me. I don't care that she was late but I want her to value my time. What should a reasonable penance be?

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make her fuck a black guy while you record.

Pee on her

I was thinking of making her write down three things she likes about me so far and then telling them to me. I felt like it was romantic but maybe that's weird?

>I felt like it was romantic but maybe that's weird?
Romantic? Are you a virgin? That's narcissistic. Romantic would be to take her on an adrenaline filled adventure on the next date and she has no choice but to accept.
>How the hell did you even get a date with your brain?

I actually am a virgin, and I'm more autistic than narcissistic. What is a good punishment then? I want to use it as an excuse to build anticipation, fan the flames etc.

>I'm more autistic than narcissistic.
Well, that's debatable. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

I'm a psychopath. That means I don't care about the existence of other human beings. But over a long period of time, I've managed to understand how humans work and use it to my advantage. So you and I are not that dissimilar in this situation.

Here are some basic rules in dating.

1) Don't think about yourself - think about what she would want in any situation - and then do it as long as it doesn't hurt you too much.

2) Don't focus on yourself - else you'll come off as a selfish prick.

3) To avoid getting stuck with a narcissistic female due to following rules 1 and 2 - make sure you don't feel suffocated/uncomfortable/irritated/agitated with the female you're dating.

> want to use it as an excuse to build anticipation, fan the flames etc.
You have the right idea here. But make it about her. Give her a reward in some way without making it obvious that she'll receive a reward.

I suggested an adrenaline packed adventure (roller coaster ride, high speed care ride, etc.) because it's not her choice - but at the same time she didn't really get "PUNISHED" for her mistake.

Ah, ok makes sense. I told her whatever it is, it's going to be a surprise. The date is tomorrow, and unfortunately I have limited resources to do something interesting. No car, no money, etc. We're going bowling, maybe something related to that?

My idea was she'd start falling for me if she has to write about how she likes things about me, but I also thought about doing the same thing for her, write things I like about her, as a surprise, but then it seems more like a shared experience than a punishment.

What if I ask her for a hug, but like a big hug.

>We're going bowling, maybe something related to that?
Pic related.
>My idea was she'd start falling for me
She's a girl. She probably has other options than you. Don't invest in her emotionally at such an early stage. If you go on 5-6 dates with her, then you can start assuming that MAYBE SHE LIKES YOU ENOUGH TO COMMIT TO A RELATIONSHIP.

>but I also thought about doing the same thing for her, write things I like about her,
That's creepy. WHY? Because you're showing WAAAAAAAAAY TOO MUCH INTEREST IN HER AFTER 1 DATE. She has not shown that much interest in you (she came late) - and hence she expects the same level of disinterest from you.

You like her - BUT SHE DOESN'T NEED TO KNOW THAT TILL STARTS LIKING YOU.

Rule of thumb - always wait for at least 4 dates before you start liking a person.

Also, get a fleshlight or figure out a way to practice sex (not for this girl, but as a long term plan). Virgins are not that attractive to women because of their inexperience. Only weird women are attracted to old virgins. So you have to do the legwork if things ever get serious between you and another girl. You may not become a pro at sex (you need to have sex with women to figure that out), but at least you won't come off as a 10 year old school kid.

Some things to keep in mind
1) Thrusting movements need arm and pelvic strength - so make sure you're not some stick.

2) Read up on the clitoris (Inexperience with G-spot is acceptable, but understand the clit well).

3) When you have sex the first time, and you can't last - DON'T PANIC. PERFORM CUNNILINGUS AND GIVE YOURSELF 20 MINS. You'll get hard again.

Basically, learn to be a good lover before you end up with a girl.

DON'T RELY ON PORN FOR THIS - THAT'S UNREALISTIC. Do your own research about the female body and how you can service her.

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>My idea was she'd start falling for me if she has to write about how she likes things about me
This is not how reality works, at all. Think about how you came to this conclusion, because it's wrong. If someone you hadn't fallen for asked you to do the same, would you like it change how you felt? What if it was your gym coach?

>What if I ask her for a hug, but like a big hug
This is lame and weak. Bowling in rented shoes is a better "punishment".

Holy fucking shit.
Legitimately never occurred to me that I would express this sentiment sincerely:
OP, I think you should listen to the psychopath. He's giving good advice.

>What if I ask her for a hug, but like a big hug.
Nooo. None of that touchy feely shit till 3rd/4th date. Not until you're confident she likes you. Till then you're a gentleman - act like it.

>Also, get a fleshlight or figure out a way to practice sex
I'm not even worried about sex. I may be a virgin but I've macked with some girls and gotten girls off with my hands before. I think sexy stuff comes easier to me than the more subtle things. I am prone to jumping the shark a bit.

I'm just interested in being in love and experiencing the physical and emotional intimacy. But you're right there's no reason to rush, and that would just be creepy.

I've had lots of encounters with girls that went from neutral to suddenly sexual in a snap. I've never really had a normal relationship so my sense of pacing is kind of warped.

Aw man. We already hugged on the first date. I'm such a scoundrel I know.

>Think about how you came to this conclusion, because it's wrong.
I came to this conclusion because there was some article about this ritual you can do to fall in love with someone on purpose, and giving sincere complements is part of it.
>Bowling in rented shoes is a better "punishment".
She already knows we're gonna go bowling though and I told her she'd find out the punishment tomorrow.

You're not wrong about the hug.

>Not until you're confident she likes you.
It's always been my impression that if a girl goes out with you more than once she likes you and you're building from there.

>It's always been my impression that if a girl goes out with you more than once she likes you
1st date - feeling around - getting to know stranger's name and occupation

2nd date - getting to know stranger better

3rd date - stranger is more like a good acquaintance - if handsome, worth having causal sex with.

If relationship was casual, then after the 3rd date, it ends.

4th date - like stranger, need to spend more time confirming if investing in a long term relationship.

5th date - stranger is at least a good friend and someone worth hanging out with.

6th date - more like a regular meeting than a date.

7th date onwards - relationship.
>But you're right there's no reason to rush, and that would just be creepy.
This is what you have to understand. She may not like you as much as you like her. So you have to GIVE HER TIME AND SPACE to like you.

It's evolutionary. If you cling on to her too tight, her brain will see you as a child - one who may be cared for, but someone who cannot be her partner.

To be her partner/lover - you have to be her equal - mimic her actions/decisions in a masculine way - WHILE ENSURING YOU KEEP HER AT THE CENTER OF THE RELATIONSHIP.

Once the courtship period is over, you can stop making her the center of attention and start dividing responsibilities.

>article about this ritual you can do to fall in love with someone on purpose, and giving sincere complements is part of it.
Okay, that's much less broken. But that's you doing it for yourself. Having someone else do it won't work the same way.

>She already knows we're gonna go bowling though and I told her she'd find out the punishment tomorrow
So we need a "Bowling Alley Punishment" that's not creepy...

I got nothing.

Ah.
I usually date good acquaintances, rather than strangers. I very subjectively find asking out women who turn out to be in a committed relationship to be distasteful. Like coffee grounds in my cup or kale in my salad, I avoid it.

>To be her partner/lover - you have to be her equal - mimic her actions/decisions in a masculine way - WHILE ENSURING YOU KEEP HER AT THE CENTER OF THE RELATIONSHIP.
She offered me a ride, sort of to get even. I almost accepted but decided to take the bus instead because I gotta be an independent man.

Big hug is all I got that definitely isn't creepy since we hugged already. I feel that she likes me a bit so I have room for some missteps, but no jumping the shark.

gotta have acquaintances to date acquaintances man.

>She offered me a ride, sort of to get even. I almost accepted but decided to take the bus instead because I gotta be an independent man.
Good move. She probably thinks you didn't take the ride because you wanted to go on another date. So you taking the bus probably works out for the better instead of coming off as rude.

But she has a car, and you take the bus. So you're not an attractive mate for her economically, and unless you have something hidden in your personality that's worth investing in, she's not going to commit to a long term relationship with you.

Take the relationship as it goes, but don't invest in her emotionally unless you start going on dates with her frequently.

It is fucking weird. Everyone can be late from time to time you bumbling buffoon

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>unless you have something hidden in your personality that's worth investing in
I'm no hunk but I have some attractive qualities. I'm smart and ambitious. I'm philosophical, and a nice dresser. She also knows I'm planning on a masters and interviewing at some local tech companies.

That is a great gif btw

>Everyone can be late from time to time you bumbling buffoon
Yeah, I agree but it was 30 minutes and I thought like, what if we start dating and this is how we started things. Is she going to do that for the rest of the relationship? I want her to respect me and value my time, and otherwise she can expect me to turn the tables on her.

>don't invest in her emotionally unless you start going on dates with her frequently.

That makes sense. Is it too early to kiss her tomorrow?

>Big hug is all I got that definitely isn't creepy since we hugged already.
Yeah, every idea I have is just goofy and off-putting. But I can't imagine saying "Your punishment is to give me a big hug" in a way that isn't lame. Might work is she brings it up and you say it like you forgot and just came up with it on the spot. As a pre-planned "punishment", it feels weak. Personally, I'd make her wait to get "punished" until something fits.

>Everyone can be late from time to time
It's odd, but she seemed to accept it and it could be a cute "thing".

>acquaintances
Tangent topic. No worries. I can turn strangers into acquaintances fairly easily.

>It's odd, but she seemed to accept it and it could be a cute "thing".
Huh, I don't understand.

>I can't imagine saying "Your punishment is to give me a big hug" in a way that isn't lame.
This is where I hope I get some of that wiggle room I was talkin about. It is lame, but I think she might find it cute if I'm lucky.

>Huh, I don't understand.
Again, I was responding to the other user.
I meant that it could be a cute moment between you.

The hug is adequate, but I wouldn't bring up the lateness/punishment unless she does.
Hugging as her penalty is q little odd.
You thinking about, planning, and revealing a punishment hug is weirdly too much for too little.
Kind of like explaining this conversation to a third party. It's not a good look.