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Chase Torres
Chase Torres

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Why did captured german commanders lie so much about ww2 in the eastern front? And why did the western capitalists perpetuate the lies?

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Carson Reed
Carson Reed

Why do Soviet commanders lie about the numbers?

Liam Moore
Liam Moore

44 minutes
i pass

Parker Robinson
Parker Robinson

Even the JEW has a point.

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Ethan Moore
Ethan Moore

lalalalala I'm not listening

Basically breaks down myths about german superiority to the red army, including how they were vastly misreporting loses even after the war. Cites multiple sources and shows the inconsistencies in german army propaganda. Worth a watch for anyone with an open mind.

Christopher Rivera
Christopher Rivera

Lel even with Russian sources numbers look like shit
If you actually watched the video you would actually provide some arguments from the video instead of shitposting

Sebastian Carter
Sebastian Carter

b-b-b-but the me-memes told me about 10000000000000 hordes against 1 German

Nicholas Gray
Nicholas Gray

Hello? :^)

John Morris
John Morris

To look more affected and therefore request more at the Yalta Conference.
Victimization is a political tool, you can continue to remain naive.

Gavin Rodriguez
Gavin Rodriguez

protip:

they dont lie

Ethan Cox
Ethan Cox

victimhood
damn

Levi Sanchez
Levi Sanchez

b-b-b-but the me-memes told me about 10000000000000 hordes against 1 German
Well, that's quite accurate.

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Parker Jenkins
Parker Jenkins

Soviet sources actually show casualties lower than other sources. Where did you get this opinion from?

Ian Perry
Ian Perry

This

Austin Carter
Austin Carter

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Michael Sanders
Michael Sanders

I'm sure you'll call me biased but here goes

k/d ratio was 2.5:1 in favor of the germans, most of it coming from the early stages of the attack at which point the red army was in transition and greatly outnumbered
the soviets, at most, outnumbered the germans 3:1 and that was at the very late stages
german production deficiency being a meme and a convenient excuse for their poor performance later on in the war, german generals telling lies about how strapped they were on tanks and how it would have made it all the difference, literally disappearing thousands of equipment out of history
german production lagging behind soviet production being mostly a meme
soviet casualties can be attributed to the amount of land they had to recapture that the germans had taken in the early stages

basically there are so many things they lied about that you really need to watch the full video, it was one blatantly made up number after another, and this only became really obvious in the last few decades with more and more people doing real research into things. they aren't "russian numbers" you retard

Gavin Mitchell
Gavin Mitchell

In 1993 the Russian Ministry of Defense published a study by Krivosheev that gave a detailed accounting of Soviet military losses for the campaigns in the war, total Soviet military dead and missing were put at 8,668 million. These figures were based on an official report of the Soviet General Staff from 1966–1968 that was previously classified secret.[160] A report published by the Russian Academy of Science in 1993 estimated that the total Soviet population losses were 26.6 million.

None of these actually dismantle the German k/d, you even admit to that now that you actually have to make a post defending OP.
Soviets actually downplayed the loses, pure fact.

Brandon Cook
Brandon Cook

you can't expect us to watch an hour long video.
the german army wasn't superior, and it lost, big surprise. only wehraboos believe that.

Liam Scott
Liam Scott

post dumb shit
get embarrassed
post about it on lefty/pol/ "g-g-guys help out"
abandon thread
Communist bravery

Joseph Thompson
Joseph Thompson

Didn't watch, not going to. But towards the later years of the war German infrastructure and population was being bombed day and night. To say that lack of materiel was "a meme" is probably inaccurate. They couldn't even supply winter clothes for the soldiers, or was that a meme?

Elijah Hernandez
Elijah Hernandez

Sources -
*Citino, R. Death of the Wehrmacht: The German Campaigns of 1942. University Press of Kansas, 2007.
*Glantz, D. with House, J. When Titan’s Clashed. University Press of Kansas, 2015.
*Glantz, D. with House, J. Armageddon in Stalingrad. The Stalingrad Trilogy, Volume 2. University Press of Kansas, 2009.
*Glantz, D. with House, J. To the Gates of Stalingrad. The Stalingrad Trilogy, Volume 1. University Press of Kansas, 2009.
*Kavalerchik, B. The Price of Victory: The Red Army’s Casualties in the Great Patriotic War. Pen & Sword Military, 2017.
*Liedtke, G. Enduring the Whirlwind: The German Army and the Russo-German War 1941-1943. Helion & Company LTD, 2016.

HOLY SHIT THIS IS TOTALLY THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT

None of these actually dismantle the German k/d
Other than the fact the k/d ratio was basically evened out in next 2 years, erasing the notion of german inherent superiority?

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Jayden Myers
Jayden Myers

Didn't watch, not going to
didn't read, not going to

Tyler Stewart
Tyler Stewart

show you flag faggot i hope you do realize that you would be shot in the head by the first commissar

Gavin Clark
Gavin Clark

I'm op you braindead maggot. I was phoneposting at work. I'm on break now.

Jacob Johnson
Jacob Johnson

Again none of this dismantle shit even your picture states that. German k/d was greater.
Other than the fact the k/d ratio was basically evened out in next 2 years, erasing the notion of german inherent superiority?
Again look at what you yourself posted

Levi Williams
Levi Williams

German k/d was greater
Nobody argued against that. The point is to contextualise it and to highlight the level of misinformation that was being(and still is) spread, with memes about 10:1 k/d, "zerg rushes," germans being outnumbered 10:1, "slavic hordes," and other neo-nazi bullshit like that, that originated from these disgraced german generals and perpetuated by the americans during the cold war. That's the whole point of the video.

Daniel Long
Daniel Long

with memes about 10:1 k/d, "zerg rushes,"
Lel, so let me get this straight, you people set up a straw man, debunk the straw man and claim victory? Now this is epic.

Jeremiah Kelly
Jeremiah Kelly

I see it literally all the time on this board.

Caleb Martinez
Caleb Martinez

commies ought to kill themselves

Christopher Gutierrez
Christopher Gutierrez

Yea I think we both know you are full of shit

Kayden Wright
Kayden Wright

someone on the internet said the Germans were outnumbered 6 gorillion to 1, but I debunked this PROPAGANDA hahaha guess I win another debate against Nazis

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