Is Christianity too cucked to save civilization?

There is an obvious decline in morality in western civilization and a rise in nihilism which is causing all this degeneracy around us from school shooting to sodomy due to a lack of meaning in our lives.

The obvious solution would be to bring back religion into the public square but i'm not sure any religion is really up to the task. Christianity is probably the closest and does have a history of being based but right now it just seems way too cucked with the Pope advocating for globalism and "just let them in bro xddd". Also I feel like teachings such as "turn the other cheek" make white people too submissive and instead of actively advocating to protect your own culture, you just kinda let everyone run you over. On the other hand, pagans are just too cringey and too obsure for the average normie to believe in. Also, I fear that for most normies religion and praising a deity may seem too antiquated for them because based blackman Neil deGrasse Tyson told them that we're all just atoms and everything is ultimately pointless.

Do any 200 IQ Jow Forumstergeists have a solution to this?

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>Do any 200 IQ Jow Forumstergeists have a solution to this?
yes. all you had to do is ask, user.

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Good idea but I just don't think normies will like it. Ultimately, 80% of people or so are just drones essentially. It's always been a few at the top; the priests, warriors, kings, philosophers, politicians..etc at the top while the rest follow their orders. That's not necessarily a bad thing though as most people (especially normies) just gravitate towards comfort. They would most likely not have the willpower to achieve ideals such as the ubermensch or "rising to godhood".

Imo there needs to be a new prophet who's charismatic and starts a new cult. Maybe the bible prophesied him as the antichrist idk

Christianity is decent for several reasons

1. Is the heart of most right wing parties in the US
2. Church is the most segregated part of American life
3. Helps form bonds in the white community
4. Is correlated with a high birth rates and low divorce rates
5. There are a million types of churches and you should be able to find one that’s more community oriented and less service oriented

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Only Christ returning in the sky, furious in his righteous anger, would save us now. Anything short of the rapture at this point is a waste of time.

Humans are disconnected wholly from their nature. Food is not for nourishment. Exercise is not gained through work. We do not have to hunt, grow, or gather the food we eat. We really don't even have to use our brains in the majority of our day to day lives.

How can man ever see his divinity, his spark of His Creator within, when we are so disconnected from what we really are? How can we ever care about the Divine when we are so cut off from it?

Most people, even if you could bring them to your side of the argument, still wouldn't be able to take a week away from their busy, mundane lives to really ever give reconnecting to God and Nature a good, honest try.

We're addicted, we're plugged in, and it's too late to go back. Three feet on the gas pedal, baby. Full acceleration towards whatever judgment awaits. Oh, judgment? We don't even believe in sin anymore. Everyone is perfect. Everything causes offense in our presence. God is surely laughing at our indignation. We are such fucking ridiculous "animals."

Yeah, Christianity is the best option right now but I don't think a global religion is optimal for western civilization. There needs to be something specific for a group of people instead of for everyone

>Imo there needs to be a new prophet who's charismatic and starts a new cult.
I've agreed with this since the beginning. We need a leader with a ton of money. One day i'd like to be that guy, but it'll take me at least 10 years.

Instead of trying to bring Christianity back in a vacuum, I think it's best to repeal the vote for women, and indeed most of women's legal rights. This will create an environment where Christianity can thrive.

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>Is Christianity too cucked to save civilization?
Christianity is a mechanism but not the entire clock. The religion promotes conservative values aside from churchs that are run by... you know who (and for money!).

Pfft, i kinda believe in reincarnation but that belief doesn't drive me to do anything, certainly not to die in battle to "save The West".

I couldn't care less, let somebody else do it. I wish i was doing "the wrong thing" but nah, it means nothing. And i'm probably wrong too, death is probably the end.

Christianity is a Semitic mind virus, the White race is fucked mainly because of a lack of racial purity (Germans back in WW2) and masculinity, also there's nothing to believe in or die for. The idea of dying for "the race" is laughable, who gives a shit? everything is bullshit including the notion of "honor". I'll let somebody else do it, and if they don't? who gives a fuck, i'll be dead by then anyway. Of course if reincarnation is real i'm kinda fucked, but the idea of reincarnation sounds too good to be true anyway.

Christianity is designed to save civilization, user.

Is NOT. Fuck my mobile posting

You're retarded, there is no God. Only indifferent Nature. And i used to be a Christian too, but nah, there's only survival we do whatever and then we die, maybe we reincarnate. Probably.

>there is no god
Proof?

>Christianity is probably the closest and does have a history of being based but right now it just seems way too cucked with the Pope advocating for globalism and "just let them in bro xddd".

but you do understand why this is, right?

I agree with a lot of what national socialism stands for but we need to wake up to reallity and unfortunately the only reason jews are thriving now is because of hitler, before WW2 everyone was aware of the jew menace , even the number 1 american industrialist was VERY aware of the jew(henry ford), to this day the catholic church is accused of helping natsoc scape to other countries after the war and shamed because they basically supported the nazi party when they were elected.

all that ww2 did was empowering the jew. everything came out their way, after hitler they are untouchable. no one dares questioning the jew, before the war everybody speak openly about their evil.

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Yeah guys, the only reason to work towards saving civilization and "the race" (let's be honest, Germanics) is karma and the fact we probably reincarnate.

>Is Christianity too cucked to save civilization?

No, just hiding our power level.

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It's hard to explain, but reincarnation seems real enough to me and i just don't see how The Bible God would fit in my model of reality.

Christianity is Semitic nonsense.

The church is not the pope or a building or an institution, but the people themselves that keep the faith.

Much of the modern “church” is filled with heretical teachings

Only krauts should exist, they are perfectly adapted to Nature. All the other Whites are faggots.

Then again, why should only krauts exist? LMAO. It's all subjective/relative/whatever.

Thread is super gay already

>I have no proof god doesn’t exist but I believe in magic anyways
>I have faith lol

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Protestantism at this point seems to be an incomprehensible failure. It's either lesbian bishops or full-blown Israel worship. The Catholic Church needs a large influx of trads to flush out the homosexuals and Marxists. Orthodoxy in the West is a meme.

There's just nothing strong enough to move me to do anything, maybe the idea that if i really put forth some serious effort and i discipline myself and die in battle with honor to save the Aryan race (Whites in general, Germanics in particular) then i'll be allowed by uh, karma i guess? to reincarnate into a superior body/being.

Yeah, self interest. That's what motivates everyone anyway.

Thing is, i don't actually want to be a kraut/White. I don't want to do anything, i don't even want to exist seeing as it's clearly all just bullshit. This reality is probably some sort of prison.

>is a false idol life destroying sexual extortion cult bad?

kys my man

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>1. Is the heart of most right wing parties in the US
There's only one right-wing party that gets elected and it's awful. It's barely even right-wing, and that's due in large part to being filled with cuckservative Christian universalists.
>2. Church is the most segregated part of American life
Which doesn't translate into policy, so who cares?
>3. Helps form bonds in the white community
So do lots of things. Fucking Jow Forums does that.
>4. Is correlated with a high birth rates and low divorce rates
Divorce rates are highest in Christian states.
>5. There are a million types of churches and you should be able to find one that’s more community oriented and less service oriented
The denominational diversity of Christianity is arguably its biggest weakness.

Ballsy--right up to the re-incarnation stuff.

THIS.
Deus Vult!

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Uruguay, you're worrying me. Stay strong.

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The Bible God? about 70% sure He doesn't exist and 30% sure that if He does exist He's not God-God. Magic? i believe in The Supernatural, mainly reincarnation/karma (it explains life IMO) but also ghosts and shit. Shit like that.

Aliens are apparently real, of course you get your Christians who say the Earth is flat and that aliens are just demons but that's just because they want humanity to be special and the end-all-be-all. I'm pretty sure we're just low IQ monkeys on a pale blue dot, our soul-stuff will probably eventually be enslaved forever by the AI/Singularity (>implying it hasn't already). You know what's worse? i don't even care at this point, ít's all the same, nothing means anything.

As opposed to Uruguain wisdom?
LOL.

>Is Christianity too cucked to save civilization?
Christianity made civilization. Square it out and you either have Greater Israel, the Greater Barbaric Caliphate or Atheist M.A.D
It isn't the first time christians de-organized and the world almost collapse. It's exactly faith and work that brought us from the brink of extermination to triumph. Defend Christ to save the West

Wee, already went from “you are retarded, there is no god” to “I can maybe estimate the likelihood of god existing and it isn’t immediately discernible from a few coin flips”

That’s a pretty big shift.

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I don't have faith, that's the problem. Blind faith is irrational IMO.

The closest thing i have "faith" in is the Aryan Germanic race and it's inferior counterparts i.e other Whites and their inferior counterparts i.e some East Asians and other mudoids that are human enough.

The Supernatural seems real enough, reincarnation explains a lot. It's not a matter of courage it's a matter of facts.

Why for? HAHA. See? i'm at that point.

Christianity is nonsense, i don't even feel like getting into it. I just don't have the energy.

The Aryan blood created civilization, LMAO. The Romans had their civilization and so did everyone else before Christianity was even invented.

Dude we're not special. And that doesn't even mean "we can do bad stuff now" cause frankly i don't feel like doing anything, evil has it's downside and i don't want to be evil anyway.

>double responding
>has faith in aliens
>has faith there is a 30% chance of god
>has faith he doesn’t have faith

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Sounds like you are trying to argue with someone who hasn’t posted in this thread.
Or is it you?

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I just can't be a dark triad psychopath, it's too dark. I'm afraid of The Void, mainly because i'm so familiar with it. But yeah, The Void is apparently THE truth.

Ah Jesus...

Will you ever come back or what? fucking kike. I mean if this heeb doesn't stop the kikes and muds the AI/Singularity and the Heat Death Of The Universe (or whatever) and establishes His Eternal Kingdom Of Heaven On Earth we are all eff u c kay e dee FUCKED.

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Ever since i've stopped the whole "being as manly as possible" thing i've gotten more and more nihilistic, the need for Ultimate Meaning is a real man thing. I just don't really give a fuck, same as women and children. I am after all a North Node in Libra/faggot.

I used to be a real man/warrior/predator and back then i gave a fuck, now i don't. Which really just tells me it's all relative and there is no Ultimate Meaning.

Promote Calvinism.

Tell people outright: "God only chose some of you. The rest of you will burn in Hell. The ones He chose exhibit X and Y traits. If your neighbor is a heathen, spread to him the Gospel, then leave him be. If He was not one of God's chosen, then he will not accept the Gospel, and he has no place in Heaven."

In doing so, you'll create a society where everyone tries to be like X or Y due to underlying pressures. It's like how atheists keep trying to LARP as self-hating Christians with morals instead of degenerates holding on to morality because people are watching.

What matters is The Race, that's it. I'm going to care because i have to, particularly if reincarnation is real. I want to assure myself a superior position in my next incarnation.

I’m not your therapist. If you want to change the subject just admit you were being retarded first.

It's kind of just openly stated that Earthlings are going to go through a Hell-on-Earth situation before His return.

T. Godless faggot

Shut the fuck up retard.

Oh you mean like in any given period of history? pfft. Crack open a history book.

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Oh what a big manly man. Runs from his problems, cries like a bitch, then lashes out because his entire sense of self-worth turns out to be a castle built on sand.

Why do people ask so many retarded questions? Its The curse of saints. I swear. They gotta deal with retard after retard and their dealings with achieve nothing for an idiot is born every minute

But it could take a lifetime for a person to grow a brain. Theres too many fucking retards on this planet for christianity to be useful.

There just isn't a God, dude. It's just so obvious to me now, you know what though? i'm going to in a very homosexual and gay way start worshipping White Nordid kraut masculinity/cock, that's as close to God as i'll ever get and apparently i do need it, i need a "North" sort to speak.

This Nihilism is killing me.

You can virtue signal and be appalled all you want, there is no God dude i'm telling you.

>Oh what a big manly man.

Yeah, apparently i killed like 54 people in my previous incarnation as a soldier, Paraguayan War, Uruguayan side.

>Runs from his problems

What problems? LMAO. Nothing means anything and there is no God? that problem? LOLOLOL.

>cries like a bitch

It's more of a general "meh" feeling i've been having about everything lately.

>then lashes out

This is just the way i normally communicate, i am as you said, a big guy.

>because his entire sense of self-worth turns out to be a castle built on sand.

Meh, self worth is all genetic. I don't have much self worth i'll be d e s u. Not my biggest problem, i'm more concerned with the whole "nothing means anything there apparently is no God and it all dies in the end".

And frankly, being d e s u? i don't know if i even give a fuck. Lately my humanity seems to be slipping away. Apparently we're just soul-stuff inhabiting biological machines and there is no real magic to life.

youtube.com/watch?v=Y2WzuxuUHuY

This shit cracks me up.

Just like that you can take a human life, it means nothing. It's some scary shit, the lack of meaning.

Only reason to keep away from badthink and badaction is, apparently, karma. What you put out is what you get, act like a demon? well, you can imagine. It's like the Mafia in a way, rather unsavory characters you're forced to associate with.

Mutual benefit, all that. But really you're just being used and it is, like the Mafia i would assume, very scary. It's also unfulfilling.

>maximum reddit
You seem flustered.

I mean, The Ultimate Masculine that's God right? hmm. Maybe.

I did get threatened with eternal Hell that one time. Maybe i'll give Ultimate Aryan Masculinity another shot, see if God talks to me.

It consumes a lot of mental resources though.

I would just kill you just like that, in uh.. Minecraft. You don't get it, it's trivial. It means nothing.

Lmao

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>There isn't a God, dude.
>This Nihilism is killing me.

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I like this version better

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You know what would really change my relaity paradigm though? if i somehow could be convinced that Whites in general and Germanics in particular are The Chosen people/Israelites.

So far though? Whites are just a less retarded more capable and better looking version of niggers. We're just animals, very sophisticated ones of course, but still just soul-stuff inhabiting animal bodies.

It all just comes down to ego.

Hmm, maybe if The Bible God existed but reincarnation was also legit. Yeah, maybe that kinda makes sense. I dunno.

Part of me thinks we all just live in the reality we think we do, i know it's feminine/solipsistic but seriously though, think about it. It kinda makes sense. I've experienced mindfucks before, Mandela Effect anyone?

I've experienced synchronicity before, fuck is all that about? i'm guessing it relates to karma and reincarnation. There's definitely SOMETHING going on.

Yeah dude, i'm PTSD-eed.

Yeah dude, i used to have blind faith. Now i don't, i'm too big brained unfortunately.

And I used to be a rabid atheist for 15 years. Now I'm convinced the world is literally a spiritual battle between good and evil.

Based and me-pilled, though for me I didn’t recognize it until my baptism by holy fire.

Can you pinpoint your return? Or your apex?

Just like you swath a fly or kill an NPC in a video game, i shit you not. It's scary on many different levels, mainly philosophical. Then again i was in a war zone... hmmm, and reality does coordinate around you to stop you from killing "innocent" people outside of a "justified" scenario/situation. So maybe killing people/enemies is just trivial when you're in combat? yeah, that's prolly it. It's like your job, sort to speak. And they also have guns/weapons and are also trying to kill you.

Yeah nevermind, killing people is still a big deal outside of a war or self defense situation. I guess that's why there's murder laws and shit.

Anyway, thank fuck The Supernatural is real and reincarnation is probably legit. I don't wanna die.

Eh, more like negative and positive forces in the context of karma and reincarnation dude. It's kinda trivial imo, no God or Divine Plan or anything like that.

>double responding
Are you really this desperate for attention?

>>Mormons
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Church of Nazarene
adherents.com/people/ph/Gary_Hart.html
Southern Baptist Convetion
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Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod
Assmeblies of God
Presbyerian Church in America
Church of God (Cleveland, Tenn)
Anglican Church
United Methodist Church
Churches of Christ
American Baptist Churches USA
Presbyterian Church (U.S.A)
Evangelical Lutheran Church in AmericaCatholic
Episcopal ChurchSeventh-day Adventist
Orthodox ChristianJehobah's Witness
United Church of Christ
Church of God in Christ
Unitarian Universalitst
National baptist Convetion
African Methodist Episcopal Church
All of these churches are pro-race mixing,internationalism,legal immigration, and fine with multiculturalism.

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biblehub.com/luke/3-33.htm
>the son of Amminadab, the son of Ram, the son of Hezron, the son of Perez, the son of Judah
biblehub.com/hebrews/7-14.htm
>For it is clear that our Lord descended from Judah
biblehub.com/luke/4-15.htm
>He was teaching in their synagogues, and everyone praised him.
biblehub.com/john/1-11.htm
>He came to his own people, and even they rejected him.
His own people aka Jews.
biblehub.com/john/4-22.htm
>You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.
Samaritans aka Gentiles.
JESUS WAS A JEW.

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Stop asking retarded questions or i'll chop your left arm off.

In not-reality yadda yadda. In theory. As a joke.

jewsus is a fucking kike and there is absolutely nothing you can do or say to turn back your jew garbage. Its always been dead from day fucking one. People that don't understand history or have any fucking clue about where christkikery came from oinly thinkt he way you faggots do.

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Oh and lets take a look at this here.

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>yes
Sad!

They guys a bit blackpilled. He'll basically shout down any ideas. Best not to feed into it.

I literally fell into a depression after reading the Pizzagate emails. The only thing that got me out of it was trying prayer as a last resort.

Yeah dude there's nothing going on, i'm telling you. Were soul-stuff inhabiting for the most part low IQ animal bodies. That's it.

And we're doomed too, the AI/Singularity whatever is going to enslave "us" (our soul) forever. Pretty much, unless Jesus stops it.

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The fucking thing was proven fake TWICE.

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Dude, i'm like.. a war vet. Seriously.

It's just nonsense dude, this idea that people, even White people, are speciul. LMAO.

I've killed people dude. We're not. Speciul.

Oh wow you read some emails? i bet you have nightmares about it.

Nah that's the real guy. The real kike.

In my opinion.

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no its not its fucking fake it was tested by two different christkikes that wanted it to be real for fuck sake

Civilians are childish, you don't get it.

We're just apparently soul-stuff inhabiting biological machines. We're not really just animals, there's a spiritual component but so what? that doesn't mean anything. I'll still dead you homie.

Eh, i should probably stop visiting this medium IQ site, you're clearly all dumb peasants. You always force me to treat you like the trash you are.

Original Christianity was much more based and powerful. It took corruption by the Romans, further corruption through greed and then Catholocism being kiked to result in the modern Christkikes we see these days. We need a return to original Christianity, with a proper understanding of lessons like "love thine enemy," "turn the other cheek," and "run an extra mile."

CRAWWWWWWLING IN MY SKIIIIIIIIIIIIN

Oh yeah is that so?
>Tacitus, Annals 15.44: But all human efforts, all the lavish gifts of the emperor, and the propitiations of the gods, did not banish the sinister belief that the conflagration was the result of an order. Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their center and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as of hatred against mankind.

>Tacitus says they were condemned because of their known odium humani generis, hatred of the human race. His narrative of the Christian persecution follows his description of the traditional religious response to disaster, in which Nero, quite appropriately, tried to propitiate the gods who had punished the Romans with the Great Fire, tried to restore the positive relationship with deity by offering public prayers and ritual banquets to make up for some perceived neglect in pious duty. The real crime committed by the Christians is their sociopathic dereliction of their responsibilities toward the human community. By refusing to participate in public religion, Christians threatened everyone by provoking the rage of the gods. The Christians are guilty of organized misanthropy. Under Nero, Christianity became a crime against the Roman state, punishable, like sedition and treason, by death.

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Do you believe me? guys never believe me, i guess it makes them insecure.

That... really sucks, user.
I’m sorry that was your path. But at least you are on the road.

We're all on a road to nowhere because The Void/Death consumes all worlds eventually and nothing means anything. Ah shit, now i have to think about it. See? this is why i became a faggot to begin with, to not have to deal with the apparent truth.

Take a look at what? A very small minority of Athiests who are right wing have extremer opinions then their larger Christan counter parts? Does that somehow fill in the footwork of having right wing communites, families and a positive birthrate?

This argument is akin to claiming blacks are better then whites, simply because a minority of them burn race mixers and homosexuals in the fucking Congo.

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Reality is just hopeless once you understand the whole "there most likely is no future" thing. You'll just start thinking about Death 24/7. And FUCK! now i can't stop thinking about it.

God dammit.

Being a real man is just extremely irritating, there clearly is no God and most people are fucking low IQ retards. You just get nothing out of it, you can't laugh the darkness away and you can't even alleviate the boredom by being evil/destructive/negative because evil is punished by karma.

Shit sucks dawg.

Oh, and regardless if White Christians are softer on said issues, Trump statically still could have never won if Christans felt stronger in the other direction.

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I'm just tired of the never ending war that is existence/life. Guess that's why i incarnated here with a North Node in Libra, to forget. To "chill".

We get it, you have PTSD.

We're kinda doomed.

Unless Jesus, i guess. Ugh.

Fucking heeb.

>tfw you are anihilist but can’t shake the feeling that anyone gives a shit about your input.

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Maybe i do want to talk about it, i mean shit this seems like a "lesson" of sorts.

I killed a lot of people in my previous incarnation, uh.

I'm lonely.

This is what i'm saying, we're irrelevant and it all comes down to ego. You're right dude, fuck.