Do you think that a world where China is the indisputable superpower would be more peaceful?

Do you think that a world where China is the indisputable superpower would be more peaceful?

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No, because China could never become the indisputable superpower.

Depends on whether or not the jews will go down quietly or not.

Do you really think that?

If there is a country with potential to become the new superpower of the world and replace the USA is China.

Anyway, my question is if it could happen do you think that a world ruled by China would be more peaceful than what we have seen with the USA hegemony?

even if america sunk into the ocean tomorrow china will still not want to 'rule the world'
you gotta understand that the chinks think themselves/desires to be the center of the world
they don't want to be responsible for everyone else, they want to be the peak of humanity

the question should be: if china becomes top dog and we become neutered, will the world be more peaceful?
in that case i would answer yes

yes, just like the last 5000 years

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it would be less gay

That's why I asked. China has never wanted to conquer the world like Europeans did. They are supposedly more peaceful, or they were before the communist revolution. They never wanted to expand to the west. I think that Marco Polo or another european that visited China said that if they wanted they could conquer the world.

So, if this idea is still on them, not wanting to conquer or rule the rest of the world and just focus on their world that is China, wouldn't that be better for the world?

But now that I think about it... They will need o fight for resources too, like oil or others. I think they don't have oil.

The world as a whole, probably. Maybe more tensions in East and Southeast Asia but they would probably just submit if China really got to that level.

For one thing, China depends on the West for its wealth. If the USA hadn't been printing money for the past 50 years, China would not have been able to achieve what it has.

Other than that, let's look at the history of world super powers

>1494 - 1580
Portugal

>1516 - 1659
Spain

>1580 - 1688
The Netherlands

>1688 - 1792
Britain

>1815-1914
Still Britain

>1914 +
USA

Notice something that all of these have in common?

No, why would it?

They'd probably rule with soft power. The Chinks are no joke, they've read history and know all the mistakes. Hell they made their own mistake in Vietnam.

It's simply easier and cheaper to buy countries outright/give them cheap loans so they are dependent upon you than to fight them.

Also, demographic replacement. China could lose 50 million people as a diaspora no sweat, but that amount transferred to Australia/New Zealand would destroy us.

America is running out of time.

They can certainly pass the USA as the most powerful country, but they will never surpass the strength of USA+Europe.

They are all naval powers.

Thing is, if China could get the overland route cheap, it would bypass all the shipping lanes to trade with Russia, Europe, Middle East and Africa.

That's a very serious thing to happen.

That's why they're so close to Pakistan. They allow China to access their inland routes. China is actually scaling down their army and navy in favor of the air force, US intelligence reports.

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>do you think a world where the country that still imprisons political dissenters had absolute power would be more peaceful.
You are a fool if you don't think china would do the same nationbuilding as america

The Southwest US will secede from the US after the Mexican majority successfully agitate for secession all faciltated by the (((media))).
The Northwest US will be colonised by China so as to completely undermine US hegemony in the Pacific Ocean, Vancouver is already 43% Chinese and San Francisco is being used as their base in the US.
Australia and New Zealand will be vassals of China after it successfully colonises its major coastal cities via the unregulated student visa program in both countries.
Canada will be sold to the highest bidder, however Vancouver will be secured by China as part of its strategy to undermine US hegemony in the Pacific Ocean. The demographic push will then head south into Seattle and Portland linking up with the Chinese colonists pushing north from San Francisco.
The complete loss of the West coast by the US will turn it into a banana republic and global US hegemony will be over. This will be the signal for the Sunni muslims to implement their own colonisation program, specifically, Western Europe, where the population has been demoralised by the (((media))) and the massive casualties and destruction of the European wars of the 20th century.
Eastern Europe will unite to oppose the Sunni muslim takeover of Europe, leading to nuclear strikes on Istanbul, Riyadh, Islamabad and Cairo by Russian nuclear forces.

Yes China's economy still relies a lot on selling cheap products to the USA and Europe but that will gradually change. They will develop their own industry like all the rest of countries made in the past.

And about what is common to all their superpowers of the past... As that user said, that they are all naval powers?

Europe/America became the world’s dominant forces because of the effect that White people have on the places they occupy.

China is a shithole, and the average Chinese experiences a very poor QOL compared to White people in just about any place on Earth.

And, make no mistake, the places they occupy also become shitholes. What reason does anyone have to follow Chinese besides a temporary profit?

The one place where China fucks the West is that they run on long term plans and they don't spend 90% of their wealth on " entitlements " like everyone else does. We are already worrying about 2020 here in America, we worry every 2 years due to elections, in China they just continue forwards towards their plans and so forth. China steals a-lot of tech, but you have to understand that the only way they can play catch up is if they steal tech, the fact that they came from Mao to this in just a few decades is fucking insane. China, regardless of a trade war will win in the end because they follow the leader, they don't care about people crying over human rights, they do what has to be done and they're all for China. Even the most American Chinamen is nationalistic for China.

For that ancient philosophy of harmony and not wanting to conquer the world and focusing in themselves.

Maybe that has changed since the communists took power and they are now hungry to rule the world too. Or maybe the communist rule hasn't change that old philosophy.

Inland routes don't scale. Every territory you cross means you need an added dimension of political cooperation.

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>They will develop their own industry like all the rest of countries made in the past.
You’re trying to apply European history to a non-European people.

It will never happen, the route goes through too many volatile countries.
China would have the same problem the US has now, interventionist wars to maintain their trade empire

Study at least an overview of Chinese history. Would take 3 minutes.

Constant warfare for millennia.

This is really true. People should be thinking about China more than they are. Not only are they ethnically homogeneous, but their people are also strongly nationalistic and believe in the ideal of their country. Even the other countries like Poland, Russia, and Japan that, while better than the west, are still mostly morally defeated, complacent, and apathetic.

It’s almost as though they aren’t White and shouldn’t just be thought of as yellower Europeans.

>long term plans.
China built their entire economy on guaranteed employment.
The chinese government injects billions of dollars into their businesses everyday just to keep them functioning.
If their growth slows even slightly the entire system implodes

Huawei went from nothing to soon to be the largest cell phone company in the world in less than a handful of years, China controls the bulk amount of rare resource minerals in the world and they're critical points in Africa. Ancient China invented a shit load of things before, the great demise of the West will because of people like you underestimating the Chinese.

Aren't they developing their own industry and technology since decades ago?

They have Africa and no-one is stopping them, that's a century of employment there. They're already shipping Chinese men there every single day and they're colonizing the continent as we type. Africa is their jobs program and it's going to last a really long time.

>Constant warfare for millennia.
But between themselves or against the invasion of Mongols. They didn't try to expand more like the Mongols or Europeans that went all over the world.

>China will start innovating… any minute now! Just you wait!
You probably think Nairobi was built by Kenyan engineers.

>implying china isn't already the global hegemon

Pax Americana is unironically, not even bullshitting you, the most peaceful time the world has ever known. You have to realize the wars of today are nothing like the wars of yesteryear. The US is singlehandedly the most stabilizing peaceful force in the world, even if it means some sandbox wars in the Middle East. The US taking over Europe's military defense literally allowed for the most prosperous period in Europe's entire history, and not just Europe but the entire Western world.

You can disagree with me if you want, or call me a patriotic mutt, whatever. It won't matter. The fact you're alive on a free internet to postulate about how much more peaceful it would be if China takes everything over is a miracle on its own. Once the US falls or wanes out of its power, then you'll start seeing the real big shit hit the fan. Real wars and not little proxy ones. You won't be alive but your successors will look up your posts on the internet and wonder why the fuck would you ever think Pax Americana was a terrible thing compared to the shit times they live in.

You're missing the entire mentality because you're unable to separate your emotions from what they're actually doing. You're like a woman, shut up and think. The Chinese had one goal, and it's to eventually be the leader of the world, and they knew that there was absolutely no way they could spend decades building industry from scratch after going through tremendous destruction and genocide in the 1900's up until relatively recent times. So, what they saw is the West developing a shit load of tech and they saw that the West had absolutely shit electronic protections, so they took trillions in R&D and began to insert it in their own products and back-engineered everything they could. They did this because it was the only way to catch-up. China took all the manufacturing, and the fucking retardation of the West in giving it to them creating millions of skilled Chinese who manufacture everything from low quality to high quality tech and materials.

Anything China does become the “largest in the world” because they have a 1B+ install base that their government protects from foreign interests. It has nothing to do with merit.

>China invented a ton of things in the past
So have Africans lol but they hit the ceiling of unaided growth millennia ago.

> Wanting the hivemind in charge of things.

The yuro asshurt is real.

around the time the US became a world power they were isolationistic as well in the beginning. if you'd ask a european if a US worldpower brings peace to the world, they would have said yes absoluteley.
But the uncontested world power status itself changed the US to a more warlike attitude. Worldpower status corrupts a nation's attitude.
Same will go for china and they will become interventionist and a miliary complex will demand action simply by the virtue of having more money than knowing what to do with it.

They've already got the same tech as America in the consumer realm. Huawei is on par with the Iphone and Samsung now. Also, they've got the 5g chipsets that Apple needs.

Their industry isn't developing, it's already developed.

Not really? They’re mostly just a manufacturing power because of unimpeded de facto slave labor.

Only if America is relegated to third-world status

Except their quality is now reaching Western companies, and even exceeding them in certain areas. You're seeing the fastest technological growth in a country that we've ever been able to see in recent years, and it's because China operates under one totalitarian block that gives no fucks for Western rules and division.

Idk, have chinks been tranny-ed yet?

If the chinks like to fap to tranny porn as much as white numalea do then china is fucked as the rest of us.

Yeah we are such a hegemony we have sandniggers and moskals doing whatever the fuck they want. I don't think you know what hegemony is, user.

China is operating on make-work principles, not caring about whether or not that work is productive. Africa is a money sink, it has many problems. Yeah they could spend a 100 years wasting resources in Africa but I don't think that's going to result in anything great.

Lol no

They’re going to have the same problems with managing Africans, who are like an anti-civilizational force. Business deals have a limit to what they can accomplish.

The Middle East route, sure, but the central asian republics are very stable and they are in Russia's orbit of influence.

Okay, now you know. Also realize that the only reason they didn’t expand is because they couldn’t or didn’t realize have the spirit to do so. They still expanded until they hit seas or mountains.

>Pax Americana is unironically, not even bullshitting you, the most peaceful time the world has ever known.
This. Without American policing, 2/3 of the world would be at constant war.

>They have Africa and no-one is stopping them,

Chink/nigger hybrids are going to be the goblinest goblins that have ever goblined.

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You’re projecting way too much agency onto Chinese. Their niche is doing things quick and dirty. They’re reactive thinkers, not innovators.

China's idea of ruling the world is to have the rest of the world working to support China, the capital. If you look at their policies in SE Asia and Africa they are doing exactly this.

If America had stopped intervening after the end of the Cold War, you might have had a point. Now, not so much. America is seen as a liability because of your rabidly pro-Israel evangelicals, which it absolutely is.

I would forgive the middle eastern wars if they were purely about colonization and the annexation of resources. Fair enough. But Iraq and Afghanistan prove that the resources aren't the motivation, but instead to intervene in the region for the benefit of Israel.

It's disgusting.

It’s a difference in genetics represented in the mindset. Even if China were numbah wan they’d still have similar issues that plague their society today if they keep up their current economic framework. I know it’s a meme about the whole Asians are bugs but yea, for the most part they take joy in the normal life, it doesn’t take much to make one happy. It’s the rare, k-types that one must watch out for, in any society. Their ambition and greed would be limitless if conditions were met.

Cellphones are a commodity, 99% of the work was done for the Chinese already, they just build the phones and add their own (usually terrible) ideas on top.

Look at something that requires incredibly precise organization, such as the quality of steel, and even poor European nations have a pretty big leg up on Chinese.

The top end of Chinese have agency and the rest follow without asking questions.

Also the theory of M.A.D would account for much of the lack of shooting wars.

>>Look at something that requires incredibly precise organization, such as the quality of steel

What makes the production of steel something so complex?

They really don’t. They basically move forward until they hit an obstacle, solve the problem directly in front of them, and move on without thinking about the bigger picture.

They fucking had famines while 90% of the adults in the country were farmers lol. They made every woman in the nation have 10 children until they had the worlds biggest overpopulation problem in history lmao

>ancient philosophy of harmony
This is bullshit "noble savage" or "african kangz" level thinking. China's history is unbelievably bloody, and any culture of "ancient philosophy" A) never existed outside of .1% of the elites. B) has been completely annihilated by centuries of invasion and communism.

A chinese century would be a horror show. Because once the smaller countries realize there's no american policeman out there to stop them, they are going to settle old and new scores. All while china exploits the rest of the world in ways that make anything the US or Europe did look like child splay. If we are lucky the US and Europe will hold them back and hold the world together, but I wouldn't bet on it.

Those central asian replublics are all islamic. Some of them are straight up North Korea level dictatorships that might topple once general achmed wants power.

An end-to-end pipeline involving many industries, disciplines, and requiring a generally high level of IQ and skill at every level, all with very small tolerances for fucking up.

The Chinese fuck up their grades for export to save $$$.

I'm sure there is quality Chinese steel and shitty-made-for-Gweilo Chinese steel.

Trump thought Chinese steel was good enough for his construction business.

Philosophy and Academia in general have only been for the upper classes throughout history up until relatively recently.

>I'm sure there is quality Chinese steel and shitty-made-for-Gweilo Chinese steel.
When the Chinese want high-quality industrial goods, they import them from Eastern Europe.

Think about that. Slavic exports are considered high-end to the Chinese. That should tell you everything.

>The People's Liberation Army (PLA) is the world's largest military force and constitutes the second largest defense budget in the world. It is one of the fastest modernizing military powers in the world and has been termed as a potential military superpower, with significant regional defense and rising global power projection capabilities.

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>Do you think that a world where China is the indisputable superpower would be more peaceful?
Literal street shitting, genocidal, cannibals.

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One thing to remember is that money in China goes a-lot further than it does over here, the U.S budget is probably 60% of what is actually says just because of the amount of bullshit we have to pay for over here that is completely detached from the actual product. You have to think of the military budget as something more like 50% military and 50% welfare.

But you're missing the whole point about the sandbox/proxy war concept. Without Israel, U.S. would have less of a foothold in the Middle East, primarily for resources (oil). See Camp David Accords and other such OPEC shit.

Israel/Zionists give about as much of a fuck of spreading their religion as you about open borders, they just want their territory to not be fucked with by neanderthal terrorists who happen to come from literally every degree around them, especially Palestine.

By welfare are you talking about those employed by the military and those engineering the weapons who are sitting relatively comfy to the amount of work they actually output?

Fpbp!!!!

This is a China shill thread

>china

cant even be the superpower of this thread

>Peaceful
Sure, if lack of war is what you mean
>Prosperous
No
>Happy
No
>Healthy
No
>Long lasting
I hope not.

China doesn't really want to be a superpower like the USA or the former Soviet union. It wants to be powerful enough to fend off invaders, wealthy enough that its own citizens don't rebel, and it wants everybody else to be peaceful enough to keep doing trade in China, without however doing colonialism shit.
What the chinese republic wants to do is simply keep control over its own citizens. It doesn't want to grow that much more, because of logistical and organizational problems.
At least, this generation of chinese do so.

Perhaps in a few decades, when technology has improved further, an even more ambitious leader will emerge.

Pull your head out of your ass, kraut.

>Chinese Information Operations and Information Warfare includes the concept of “network warfare”, which is roughly analogous to the United States concept of cyber-warfare. Foreign Policy magazine provided an estimated range for China's "hacker army" personnel, anywhere from 50,000 to 100,000 individuals.

How big is your hacker army burgers?

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its ok
Russian bots will btfo chink hackers

You misunderstand the situation.

Israel isn't a puppet of the USA. The USA is a puppet of Israel. Israel is a net negative economically for the USA.

No. Look at how much unrest there is in China. Daily protests and mass rioting, millions of people being oppressed and general chaos and strife as people live a shitty life. Look at their history, they have some kind of great revolution twice a century that results in millions or more dead.

It's 1984 so war is peace.

>Do you think that a world where China is the indisputable superpower would be more peaceful
No

yeah

Yes, because colonizing africa worked out so well the last time.
That entire continent is a massive drain of intellect and resources.
It will break the chinese empire the same way it broke the European powers.
Also, lets see the Chinese maintain the same levels of growth without america policing the trade routes for free

No.

do you retards not know who genghis khan was?

They eat dogs and their food is extremely unhealthy.
They want to tell you how long you can play video games and when to shit and sleep.
It would be hell on earth.

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peaceful no. orderly yes

Moving things by sea is exponentially cheaper than moving things by land which is exponentially cheaper then moving things by air.

To move anything by land to any western buyers, China has to move it by land thousands of miles through deserts and steppes. This is so significantly more expensive then moving it by sea that China has recognized this and built fucking islands in the middle of the ocean just to try to control sea trade routes.

Get a grip you fucking moron, if China is forced to use a land route they are fucked.

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nice meme flag faggot.
No. Look at how much unrest there is in China. Daily protests and mass rioting, millions of people being oppressed and general chaos and strife as people live a shitty life. Look at their history, they have some kind of great revolution twice a century that results in millions or more dead.

> isn;t that the rest of the world? how do we help the common person?

certainly not the
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WAY

You did your greentext backwards there, bud.

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Airshipping is worth the price
Seashipping is just miles of redtape and bureaucratic bullshit that makes its not even worth the discount.
Land shipping sounds like an even bigger nightmare.

China wouldnt care one bit about any other nation and exploit them at full rate since they dont have anything close to western values they are all about instectoid collective hierarchy

Chinks care about face value more than anything. They cheat and fake data to look good outside.

bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-26/china-claims-more-patents-than-any-country-most-are-worthless