Why is America becoming more radical?

Why is America becoming more radical?

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'America' isn't, the Left is. Conservatives have been sitting in the same place, believing roughly the same things for 30+ years now. If anything, they've also drifted leftward. The Progressives have run sprinting to the fringe since they own all the major social institutions and have no opposition to go to crazy land. There is no middle ground left to sit in now that opposing abortion, child drag queens, fines/imprisonment for misgendering strangers, or outright socialist expropriation of you property makes you Literally Hitler.

Not just America, Europe too. And it's because extremism can only be countered by equal extremism from the opposing side (An actual quote from Mein Kampf) I chose my extreme. Sieg Heil!

This. For decades Reps have been standing the same ground they are at now. maybe they undertook some small changes, that's all. The same for the Democrats, who were very similar to Reps.

Suddenly, a lot of Americans are beggining to identify as "Socialists", "Communists", "Socialdemocratic"... In a country where the word "Socialist" used to be for demonizing purposes only, and "liberal" means "left-wing".
That is something bizarre to see from Europe.

So, simply the arch is growing longer, but the Dems are the only option for these new trends, bc of how fucked up the electoral system is and `murican politics in general.

Reacting to this clown world they find themselves in

Where are you from? We have always had Communists, Anarchists... Fuck, the Italian Communist Party got #1 in many elections just a few decades ago. It's the far-right what is growing nowadays, but these SJWs and Cultural Marxists have always existed in Europe.

Just look at the stances these same Dem politician alive now have today, vs what they had in 1994.

Chuck Shumer favored a border wall in the 90s. Now, he and the rest of the party are no borders, open immigration, children should vote, non-citizens should vote, criminals should vote progressives. The same people. This isn't a polarization of both sides, it's one side.

short answer: jews

The red needs to be much taller

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On the other hand, Reps have always been quite right-winged. At least for European standards. ll that pro-life progress they are doing... wow.

The "far right" isn't very far right at all in America. It's yesterday's conservative. Thinking you have the right to own a gun and keep it in your car makes you "far right" now, when almost every American supported this in 1980. Thinking law-abiding citizens should be the only people participating in your republic makes you "far right". Thinking the rule of law should come before emotional makes you a literal rapist.

That's from a SJW subjective point of view. Don't let them drag you. That's not Nazi, alt-right-tier.

Far-right has some deep, negative connotations for a lot of people, while the 2nd Ammendment is not even right-wing or left, it's part of your Constitution.

social media amplifies opinions and creates echo chambers. we are currently communicating in one.

Because the left is trying to bar and censor the right and this is giving off an equal reaction from the right and hopefully it boils over into civil war 2.0 because the left needs to be purged.

only "right wing" people in America support the 2nd ammendment, the constitutions, or the history of both. Dem presidential candidates right now want to remove statues of Jefferson and are perfectly happy to remove those ammendments. They already have judges on the bench that think it's ok to just reinterpret words in entirely new ways to change the meaning of laws to whatever you want. The Left does not defer to law or the constitution, they are willing to destroy both.

correlated with white population decline

Internet, as well as an approaching racial parity tipping point. IE if the country is 90% white, they can afford to split down the middle on political issues, while the 10% other has to be completely unified in order to hold any political influence at all. But the closer each side gets to 50% the more the battle lines are drawn.

preparing for world war

kek, right, and i suppose that's exactly why 2/3 of american GDP is generated in deep blue counties and why deep red states (even 95% white ones like WV or 90% white ones like KY) are degenerate shitholes that look more like subsaharan african than a respectable first world nation.

we know this is fake, also, your motive doesnt control peoples opinions anymore, jews.

I hate considering myself “conservative”
Conservatives are all racially blind cucks who legislate more anti white bills than dems could ever hope to.
Just another side of the same Jewish coin

It's social media. The Overton window no longer applies. Everyone deep down has some kind of radical opinion but if only 1/10000 held the same idea it was no big deal and they would burry it and comprise. Now social media allows every group to find supporters and they feel big and entitled and over represented which means no room for comprise. This just radicalizes what few moderates are left as they are forced to pick aside and now we have ancap-fascist alliances to combat the zionist-bolshevik tranny Confederacy in this clown world

Nothing you just said has anything at all to do with what I wrote.

Fucking phone, compromise not comprise fuck I hate being away from my desktop

It's just something he spams in every thread, don't bother responding to it.

How is this an echo chamber? There is very little censorship, there is no popularity rating, and there are left wing threads created by the minute. Why are Germans so stupid?

who are these right wing extremist Democrats?

if you really think this isnt a echo chamber you are beyond saving. the only "left wing" threads are super obvious bait without any real discussion. if you would talk to anyone irl the same way about the same topics everyone would think you are a retard. this forum doesnt even remotely reflect real life public Sentiment.

the real answer? because we don't invest in education. people are being dumbed down to the point that they're becoming tribal again.

also lol at this thread
> only dems are radicalized
> dems are literally satan
choose one

both sides are getting radicalized, it's easier to control us and present this false dichotomy between the left and the right but when it comes to things that actually matter they don't give a shit.

both left and right:
- will rape you through the fed
- believe corporate rights come before human rights
- believe in bullshit wars to make their friends rich
- support israel
- do NOT believe in free speech (just with different definitions of free speech)
- believe in redistribution of wealth from the poor to the rich

get it together guys, radicalization is a strategy to control us and the real conflict has nothing to do with left v right but rich v poor.

t. mentally ill city dweller

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accelerationists, duh.

An echo chamber implies the only posts allowed are those that follow the hive mind and those that don’t are deleted and it’s posters banned. Just because you leftist idiots get laughed at and can’t debate anything intellectually, doesn’t mean it’s an echo chamber. Ironically you have more free speech here than anywhere else on the internet

How the fuck do you even know what public sentiment is when you can be jailed for wrong opinions where you live? You'd be surprised how public these sentiments truly are, it's just people are so afraid to say it. Nutjobs on the left can do whatever they want because people on the right consider them to be nothing, just pests. Meanwhile, people on the right who express ideas that would be considered normal 10-20 years ago are hounded by the no job losers on the left and financially ruined. The reason the right congregates here is because this is one of the few places that allow free speech. How is it an echo chamber when you can post your bullshit and still have it seen by everyone instead of shuffled to the bottom?

You need to go back to school. Look at the fucking median lines, you retard. Which one has moved further?

LOOK AT THESE RIGHT WING EXTREMISTS

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You could do that with anything that's changed over the same period Dumbo

Public education is the problem, not the answer, memeflaggot.

that's true since 94 but the radicalization of the right started before 94, learn your history.

i am not leftist. just because a forum doesnt have censorship doesnt mean it isnt an echo chamber. fact is this board is 70% alt right 20% libertarian and 10% everything else. thats like saying stormfromt is not an echo chamber and an accurate representation of american public opinion because they dont delete leftist posts. most people on Jow Forums jerk of to the same topics everyday and dont even leave their room. the thing is 90% of social media becomes an echo chamber after a certain amount of time because people leave that disagree with the general consesus that emerges after a while be it left or right.

>GDP
You no longer have any credibility. Kill yourself at your earliest convenience

>st because a forum doesnt have censorship doesnt mean it isnt an echo chamber
That's literally what it means

What an idiotic thing to say. Should I bring up which party Lincoln was part of? Or what the DNC looked like 100 years ago? I'd say 25 years is good enough, since you weren't even born by that time.

because it isnt seen by everyone. the average guy doesnt visit Jow Forums or leaves after a while because people behave like rabid dogs and dont have a real discussion.

i think you're misreading what i wrote. public education is the problem. it sucks. people don't graduate with the ability to think critically when they should.

What is per capita? China has a higher gdp then Luxemburg. Are the Chinese better?

>dont have a real discussion.
There's been more genuine discussion here than anywhere else.

>just because it’s not censored doesn’t mean it’s an echo chamber
Lel that’s actually what it means though

You’re free to make any retarded post you want, and we’re free to make fun of it

THAT IS FREE SPEECH, regardless of whether it’s not the popular opinion or not.

an echo chamber is a forum where the same kind of opinion is parroted over and over and over again. that can be achieved with censorship or if it just has one kind of audience like Jow Forums

Deep blue states generate ultimately worthless doodads. Deep red states generate the food that keeps you and the rest of the world from starving to death.

Or maybe they aren't able to defend their retarded beliefs so they run off to actual echo chambers where they can be coddled.

thats just delusional. Jow Forums is like angry kids screaming at each other.

oh suck my nuts. the democratic and republican parties today have nothing to do with what they were 100 years ago.

go read one country under god to learn how fucked the right got in the 50s and 60s when the religious leaders in the US sold out to big corporations. the right has been making its constituency into corporate apologists for decades and what we're seeing in the last 20 years (ex: gilette virtue signalling) is the dems doing the same.

>One kind of audience
Then why the fuck are you here?

yeah but republican policy is dogshit except for a few social issues, moving away from it is a good thing

California has the highest GDP, but has the worst quality of life in the entirety of United States

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Republicans were always far right, you fucking mensa members.

Jews

California produces the most food.

Kek

Not even close nigger lover

(((muh alt-right))) you know this is just a way to call conservatives extreme right? The right hasn't changed.

Yeah no. Opinions are repeated here because those that come to challenge them, attempt to subvert the board opinions through discussion and logical argument. They have no firm beliefs or logical views to stand upon so they disappear very quickly, because it becomes obvious to them they can’t win an argument without mods or the hive mind jumping in to spit logical fallacies with them. So they go back to actual echo chambers(reddit, Facebook, Twitter) where they can spout their opinions ad Infinitum without fear of a logical argument.
you can cry over and over that that’s what we do, but in reality, no one limits what you say or don’t say here, and is quite literally the freest place on the internet

I wish

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The economy is shit, millenials are becoming adults and getting jobs. They're realizing they have it worse than their parents, and that capitalism is shit. So they are radicalizing, moving to the far left and far right.

So what? If you go back far enough, you'll see, right? 25 years is much too small of a sample size for a culture. I mean, 1/3 of a human lifespan, one entire generation, who gives a shit? Think about what our grandparents did, that's when they important stuff happened. Or maybe their grandparents in the civil war. Or maybe their grandparents were radicalized in the war for Independence. Just stop with your retarded whataboutism.

i am not saying thats a bad thing. i mean i am still here getting gangbanged by 4 americans and choking on captchas. my point is the same kind of stuff gets posted and reguritaded (?) over and over again and people agree with every right wing sentiment here because only right leaning people visit this board. everyone hears what they want and everyone feels reassured.

>opinion is parroted over and over and over again
No you dumb nigger, also see

We get it, you're from Twitter and you're upset we can't see your blue checkmark. Oh ye of little iq

>because only right leaning people visit this board.
Is this your first thread ever?

In a service economy GDP is mostly BS.

Even though leftist are in the minority their views and arguments can survive on their merits, but surprise surprise in an honest debate where you can talk freely about ethnonationalism and races, leftists arguments are left in the dust.
With your definition of an echo chamber, everything that is not equally left and right is an echo chamber and the term loses its value because then almost any place is an echo chamber.

>everyone feels reassured.
Is this subtle hans trolling? Or are you seriously this new

Again I ask, then why are you here?

The echo chamber phenomenon. Basically hanging out with people who agree with you on political issues makes you more extreme in your views.

That's one of the biggest problems with the attack on free speech on social media - it's making lefties more left and conservatives more conservative. Oddly, the left is the one pushing this agenda.

quillette.com/2019/05/17/conformity-and-the-dangers-of-group-polarization/

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Notice that it's the left most at blame here. The right has barely moved. The left is going full anti-white commie feminist at an alarming rate.

I am sick of this narrative that there is any movement to the right at all.

It is all the left, the left is the one becoming radical, the right has not changed at all.

I just have a life and can't come here all the time. Whenever I do I have always outdebated the native Jow Forums population

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>I’m being bombarded
That’s how4chan works
You post something controversial, you get replies regardless of your opinion. If this was anywhere else, your post would’ve been deleted and we would be spamming posts about how right we are and how wrong you are without giving you a chance to defend your opinions

It’s not, nor will it ever be an echo chamber

>The echo chamber phenomenon. Basically hanging out with people who agree with you on political issues makes you more extreme in your views.
Good job on being retarded. The left did way more to turn me into a goose stepping unironic nazi that pol did

nigger

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just because i dont talk like a 16 year old edgy teenager doesnt mean i am from twitter or leftist. pretty libertarian for german standards i guess.

Source?

(X) Doubt

None of the data would support that.

Also, eat a penis sandwich, you ignorant slunt.

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red counties in california produce food you mean. When the state finally fractures and becomes jackson your shitty meme dies.

Only the left in America is. American conservatives/republicans/libertarians have remained pretty static.

>always out debated
I’m sure you think so, but such a matter is always subjective, and has no bearing on reality

Go get em champ

There is slight movement to the right, though the natural reactionary action.
You can see it by compariing the medians in OP's picture though.
Rapid swing into the extremes by the left, while the right have only slightly moved further right.

> i am beiing bombarded
just meant i cant keep up with replies i am on my phone so it takes a while haha

So you chose the left. Got it.

Semantic fail. You can pretend it means something else but everyone disagrees. Now stop trying to flip our talking points back at us, you aren't very good at it.

>pretty libertarian for german standards
>Germans standards
So commie lite?

You are just a leftist faggot pretending everyone else feels the same way, the right does not do any of that shit.

Nah Destiny usually defeats white ethnostate people in those debates. Whenever I debate people on ethnostates in Jow Forums I expose the flaws in their ideology very easily

Isnt San Francico Indian tier poop in the streets city?

phone posting really is the death of this place. fucking phone fags.

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more minorities mean more polarization has everyone votes along tribal lines as such subgroups grow larger and more powerful. such as the case in the ultimate breakup of the austrian empire.

Fair enough. I’m phone posting myself, and it’s already difficult to keep up with ONE person replying to me

yeah no you dont

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