Life in USSR - to any """communists""" in West

>Basic goods like chewing gum or a decent perfume were not produced at all or in any decent quantities, therefore as a teenager, you could trade smuggled chewing gum for incredible amount of money, if your relatives happened to travel abroad and bring back some. You could literally fuck top tier 9/10 chicks for couple of chewing gums or in the most hardmode scenarios, for some imported cigarettes.
>Blue jeans and Coca Cola were regarded as the symbols of defiance to the system and people were paying stupid amounts for them.
>Birth control pills were not produced in meaningful quantities so they were semi legally imported from the Hungary. Soviet condoms outright sucked.
>Neither were hygiene pads easily accessible.
>In most places except a few capitals, getting meat other than the chicken, was synonymous to employing some god mode connections.
>Same goes for getting accommodation. You could not buy a property, you were handed it in exchange for the semi symbolic price, when your employing organizations decided that you deserved it. Buying and selling property is still regarded as some kind of wizardry that only a few were able to perform.
>Whenever buying was applicable, you could literally buy the top notch property in the capital for the price of several VHS players. Thus, people would carry black caviar to the west whenever allowed to go there, exchange it for VHS players, wristwatches etc. miscellaneous tech and sell it in USSR.
>Drug consumption was well hidden, but nevertheless existed. You could get some weed or hash, punks used to cook meth in small glass vials (the penicillin vials) and directly shoot IV the crude reaction mixture with the steampunkesque glass syringes. Professional criminals wee abusing medicinal morphine. Elites - cocaine smuggled from the west. Psychedelics were almost non existent, outside of the scientific circles and couple of obscure hipsters eating shrooms

t. user who's s sure that your flavor of communism will be the good one

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This, Relatives grew up in DDR/SSSR, now they didn't do drugs but all of the other stuff mentioned is correct, When the wall came down and the German unification happend they said it was like being put into a time machine and moved ahead into the future by 20 years aswell as there was endless supply of goods, It was a hell of an experience for them.
And my relatives were "well off" as the father was an Engineer who was granted special permission to travel around the warsaw pact states (Mostly rural SSSR) to work on different projects.

How old are you? Assuming you have memories of all that, you must be at least in your thirties

20 years? It was like watching star trek on TV and then experiencing it.

Well just said it was my grandmother told me which was 20 years, It was a fucking insane experience never the less.
She also told me they got ripped off on old West German fridges being told its the newest shit out there but in reality it wasn't haha they were pissed about it but atleast there was no retarded 5 year que to get a new one.

>Basic goods like chewing gum
since when is chewing gum a ''basic'' good you fucking brainlet?

>Another member of the butthurt complaining about Russia again

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A russian would tell you the same fucking story

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I actually lived through it.

Let me just copy my post form a previous thread for the pathetic neo-marxist shitstains.

>I remember my parents waking up in 3AM to go on the bread line hoping to get one loaf around noon.

>I also remember eating water with bread and sugar in a bowl for weeks, because there was nothing else.

>I also remember using old newspapers instead of toilet paper, because we could not afford it.

>I also remember people afraid to tell a joke, because you did not know who was a government snitch and the police could be coming to break your fingers the day after

I really wish to kill every fucking pre-teen commie LARPer on the board. Idiots who know nothing of history and don't realize free shit doesn't exist. Sooner or later you pay for everything. All this leftist propaganda by Bernouts is trash of the highest caliber. You would not last a day in your vaunted commie utopia. You'd prolly kill yourself if you had to go through what I did.

Faggot, cunt LARPering pieces of shit, kys!

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You couldn't be more wrong, My family and me only have good experience with Russians what we are complaining about is retarded communism which has fucked all of Eastern Europe up to the extent that those countries still today suffer from it 30 years later.

>Vinyl discs with the Western bands were smuggled into the country and copied. Sometimes discs, cut out of a X-Ray film were used to copy the music onto, instead of a proper vinyl disc.

>Poverty and boredom yielded a lot of sex and only handful of HIV cases emerged in the late 80s. You could safely fuck any nurse or a food industry employee, without any protection, since they were screened for STDs on the regular basis. Still, people were often very hypocritical on that issue.

>There was a lot of illegal gambling, mainly among two subgroups - professional criminals and semi-legal entrepreneurs. Both groups gambled exclusively among their respective circles and they never overlapped.

>USSR was not internationalist since stalin came into the power. It was quiet plainly just another incarnation of the russian empire, which happened to be communist at that moment in time.

>The standards of living sucked greatly in comparison with the ones in the US, at the respective period in time.

Other post soviet Anons may add to the list.
Would also answer tour questions.

Proof?

>Proof?

Go buy a soviet flag of an ebay with your mummys credit card you larping commie fag incapable of googling.

Is the butthurt belt gonna cry now? Go back to eating pork fat churka

My relatives wanted to visit the other part of my family that lived in West Germany and had to send in a request to the local police station which would be proceeded through the bureacracy of DDR, 2 Years later they were denied this but the West German side could visit every now and then.
Think this one is unique for Germany but two cousines in my family each living on each side did military service at the same time knowing that any day they could be on a battlefield shooting at eachother.
My family weren't political in the slightest but they were extremely careful not saying the wrong words about political figures as Stasi had many informants and you never knew who it was either.
You couldn't really improve your life conditions either as only the corrupt politcians within the communist party could get away with corruption.

>How old are you? Assuming you have memories of all that, you must be at least in your thirties

My mid life crisis ended a decade ago, so I assume I'm pretty old. Imagine living through all of this, just to be told by a teenage commie, his marxist boomer parents and their globalist overlords, that either I am insane and I should have been enjoying the whole thing, because it's a dream of a life, or that they have a better version of communism which they assure you, won't suck.

>Is the butthurt belt gonna cry now? Go back to eating pork fat churka


Here we go. So it appears you are not just a larping commie, instead we are dealing with a mongoloid scum, whose family fucked of the ussr to the US and now he is defending that exact shithole.

Yeah, ok. GTFO mongoloid

you were not alive during the soviet union you underage little twat

I should slice into your stomach and pull out your entrails and stomp on them for speaking ill of the motherland

BTW, DDR was considered to be a paradise in comparison with the USSR.)))

I'm not a comie you inbred mountain monkey you are just mad at Russia as always and it's funny to see you get mad

A few notes from my mother (working class) who lived in Communist Poland. family moved to the UK in the late 90s.

>Oranges and other exotic fruits only on Christmas.
>Chocolate substitutes instead of chocolate, genuine chocolate only on Christmas.
>Western music was rare, but was treated like gold if someone had it.
>Real jeans were considered a luxury.
>(In her youth at school) they had to go to political protests as school trips to protest American expansion or the atom bomb and other shit propaganda reasons.
>When Wojtyla became pope it was a big morale boost and people celebrated in the streets.
>She and her sisters would stand in line to buy specific products from specific shops, while her mother was waiting at another shop.
>Everyone had money but you couldn't buy most things because they were rationed.
>Good meat was rare, life was easier if you had family in the countryside from whom you could buy directly.
>Family and connections were important.
>The women who worked in shops powertripped constantly and considered themselves really important as they held stock and could decide who gets what.
>Those women are still powertripping today sometimes in old shops decide the times changing.
>Martial law was a tragedy and severly hampered peoples lives.
>Have to wait months for furniture.
>Where you lived depended on where you worked and what position you were in.
>Got to go on holiday for free as a child because the factory her father worked for had some deal with the Hungarians.
>Her father (my grandfather) was arrested and beaten many times for being part of solidarity.

>ad hominem... you are just mad at Russia as always and it's funny to see you get mad
I assume it is very convenient to love your "motherland", while living in the country, which is singlehandedly responsible for its demise?

Tell, how can an RBMK reactor explode? You didn't see graphite on the ground because that's not possible!

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can you make it any more obvious that you're just a self hating retard who has no idea what the ussr was like and just gobbles up western propaganda?

>ronal raygun karate chopped the berleeen wall, that's why the USSR fell!!1

I wish the Russians had occupied Denmark

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It was, DDR was the most well functioning of the states and yet it still was shit to live in it.
The best the Eastern block had to offer was worse than the worst of the west in terms of life quality which tells alot.
My relatives lived in multiple USSR cities throughout their years as my relative was working on different state projects in rural USSR in the far east, And in hindsight when he thinks about it projects were done in a manner where workers were put in extreme danger, For instance they were out building a bridge somewhere around Irkutsk and he noted that there were no safety nets or lines for the workers on the scaffolding there was very little safety for workers despite USSR proudly proclaiming itself as the workers paradise lmao.

This new generation gruzin pussy liberal subhuman don't understand sample thing with out russian empire and Russian force there shithole name Georgia armenia and all the kavakz would be tukish muslim land now and they all would be Muslims or arabs and not Christians

He dont remember how turkish Osman sultan take Georgion children and sell them to Egypt to make them later osamn slave gurds

White slaves they name as Circassians a race thet belong to the Osman sultan

I agree ussr and Russian empire was was really hard but they had traditions and the people was smart intelegent they create the culture

Look now our generation they dont create nothing dont even want to get merry and have kids they all become man childrens who cry about how russia is evil and how Europa is great bcouz gays nigers muslims multicultural environment shit

But whan they visit Europe and see all nigers and muslims they become different and unique just like me

And this gruzin is nothing compared to the old kavkaz gruzins i know

Gruzin need to remember with out russia this gogi subhuman would post his post from turkia as a muslim terorist and all his ancestors was genocided by turks or by russian empire soldiers bcouz roylety to the turkis Sultan

Now after all this years they dont want to do nothing for there country they all want gibs from america and eu and how russia still stayed just like she was and not changed

Fuck you gruzin ask your dad ask your grenddad he will tell you the true story of your mountain shithole name gruzia (гpyз) thet Europa never halped you

But now after america try to bring Russia down and to take all the rich research they all become European

The dance lizginka is still alive just bcouz the Russian empire protect it the food the places the mountains

Go become a Chechen terorist and cry more to Europe

Why do you imply so many things that are not true mountain monkey? Why are you always mad? Is it because Russia took back it's clay and you still shit yourself over it?

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Imagine being stupid enough to believe this. Did Putin tell you on the tv?

>nevermind me robbing the country blind, it's the communists from 40 years ago that are to blame

>no degeneracy
>no worries about housing
>no worries about getting a job
sounds fucking nice tbqh

>Tell, how can an RBMK reactor explode? You didn't see graphite on the ground because that's not possible!

Positive void coefficient intrinsic to its design, introduction of the positive reactivity in the initial steps of lowering the control rods, manual override of all safety systems etc.

>Times were generally shitty and it fucked with peoples mentality.
>Working was totally useless as the stuff you were producing was really poor quality, the west was better and everyone knew it.
>Smugglers of foreign goods into the country were the first people to get rich in her areas. Especially of electronics and clothes.

Retarded communism and fucking F.D. Roosvelt, how for fuck sake Americans voted closet homosexual with fondness for Georgians with mustache is beyond me.

>can you make it any more obvious that you're just a self hating retard who has no idea what the ussr was like and just gobbles up western propaganda?


GTFO NOW!

Nah. Tell me how old you are. Provide some proof that you have any credibility to be talking about the soviet union you reactionary twat.

>Nah. Tell me how old you are. Provide some proof that you have any credibility to be talking about the soviet union you reactionary twat

Proofs that you don't suffer brain aids you crawling victim of abortion.

NOW!

ahahaha
butthurt russian-JEW

shlomo say something nice again!!

Pretty accurate, sad socialistic reality.

Western propaganda has taught every former citizen of the eastern bloc that everything bad that ever happened to death is because of the communist government.

Meanwhile imagine if shitmerican citizens were subjected to that level of brainwashing. Imagine if african americans were somehow convinced that capitalism is to blame for all their problems. Or poor mexican day laborers. You'd never hear the end of it.

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Did you had any contact with Europeans ??

This people are crazy in the had

I remember i was in Europe blayt and j see to Swedish guys to big man say to eachother you are stupid slut and the other guy they to the first guy no no you are a stupid slut

But blyat they are man мyжики and they act like жeнщины

Пиздeц блять знaeшь кaк я иcпyгaлcя этo былa пpocтo пиздeц Я вecь дpoжaл

И я aдыг

Mы нe Eвpoпa 100 пpoцeнтoв гoвopю этo

>to death

to them.

My parents also lived in communist Poland. My grandfather was sent to a coalmine as a kid for telling the class about Katyn

Shhh. Get back to oven especially if you don't see difference between Osmans and Mamluk Sultanate.

I worked in Russia for ten years - 1998 to 2008. People are divided by age in terms of how they view the Soviet past:
- The very young have no personal memory and often accept the West's bullshit version from the mass media. Many, on the other hand, have a thing for when their country was a superpower. Their sense of patriotism has telescoped the Soviet era into all the other powerful periods for Russia.
- Those a little older only remember the disastrous economic situation that the fuckwit Gorbachyov caused, and have their opinions coloured accordingly.
- More mature adults, however, often acknowledge they were taken in by the consumerism bullshit and greatly regret the loss of many social and public order benefits of the old regime.
- The very old struggle to function in the new world.

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show your real flag retard

>ahahaha
>butthurt russian-JEW
>shlomo say something nice again!!

These russian larping shabbosgoym were so bullied bullied when they migrated en mass to Israel in late 70s/early 80s. Everyone knew that they were just larping economic migrants, bying their pork from "russian stores"
He might legit be suffering from ptsd from all of that bullying

spiegel.de/international/germany/homesick-for-a-dictatorship-majority-of-eastern-germans-feel-life-better-under-communism-a-634122.html
>Today, 20 years after the fall of the Berlin Wall, 57 percent, or an absolute majority, of eastern Germans defend the former East Germany. "The GDR had more good sides than bad sides. There were some problems, but life was good there," say 49 percent of those polled. Eight percent of eastern Germans flatly oppose all criticism of their former home and agree with the statement: "The GDR had, for the most part, good sides. Life there was happier and better than in reunified Germany today."

But blyat they are man мyжики and they act like жeнщины

I and every Caucasian can tell you same thing about Russian males and your females, shlomo

by the way, whats going on about iran deal ?

You are dumb like fuck. They miss those times because they were young not because live in USSR was good.

That was a thing. My father remembers being told by his (communist) father the truth about Katyn and other Soviet atrocities but that he was to keep his mouth shut about these things as if his and their lives depended on it.

an old colleage told me in his youth time he bought some jeans and other stuff before visiting East Germany, any 13 years old chick would go to bed with him for a real blue jeans...

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Why do people who actually lived through the union say the dissolution was a bad thing you retard? Why do most people want it back?

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Sadly, it is always terribly difficult to convince people that the things you forbid them from having or doing would actually harm them. They can only learn the truth from experience. Unfortunately, the experience largely proves fatal.
Despite the ideological bases, things are quite comparable with the shift from our Francoist system here. Naive young people got tired of being ruled by old men, seemingly from another era, rejecting their universal wisdom.

ბასედ ენდ რედპილლედ

I was born after USSRs collapse, and when older people talk how they lived there, I see why we are living like this today in Georgia

communism breeds lazy, unmotivated retards with criminal or slave mentality

Leave it to 17-year-old communist deadbeats from Portland to tell you what your life was like in the USSR all right?

That is very well true but i will have to give credit to Russian empire for that, The Soviet union just inherited those lands from the Empire just a sad story of how history went but atleast they aren't snackbars or got genocided like Armenians were subjected to by the Turks.
The communist failure of a system collapsed and all hell broke loose, Mafia and criminals took over the country and destroyed it and corruption was extreme as an entire system collapsed due to its inferiority.
That is why we have Putin to begin with, a thief who stole peoples money in ST petersburg before becoming president and banning all his competition from stealing the same money he and his friends are stealing from today.
TLDR commies couldn't even keep their sand castle together and the same people who ruled as commies are todays politicians in most EE-states.

I knew a lot of middle aged and retired people. Academics, members of the armed and security forces, engineers. These people DID live better, and were not children, so it's not a case of just missing childhood innocence, playing in the park. They were talking about the earlier part of their professional careers. The Polish and Georgian experience was different, I don't doubt it, but I speak for many Russians at least.

Keep coping you retard. Somehow you morons always have some anecdote from your great grandmother who said communism is the most evil thing imaginable and she had to sell herself for chocolate bars but every poll of older people saying they want the union back doesn't count. I hate conservative retards.

Or because churkas are naturally stupid

Did you ever see "Tangerines"? It's a movie about two Estonians living in South Ossetia during the war.

Pretty good.

>pukni mne v rot

My family was very anti-communist on both sides. They descended from slzachta though so they had to be. The ones with the actual wealth all went to america before the commies could take it

>You are dumb like fuck. They miss those times because they were young not because live in USSR was good.

Absolutely. Literally everyone who personally lived through it or have relatives who had the first hand experience are telling them that it outright suck and was a literall prison but no, you can't cure that religious zeal with which they are defending that shithole.

>Mafia and criminals took over the country and destroyed it and corruption was extreme as an entire system collapsed due to its inferiority.
the system collapsed because of ethnic conflict, because the baltic states never learned to live with other slavs and always saw themselves as too good to be part of the USSR. because stalin was too soft on them, allowed them too much freedom. Had the soviets done to their conquered states what the capitalists have done to every nation they ever colonialized the union would still exist.

Yep it is sad how the west sold Eastern Europe to the bolshevik devils, Should have listened to the Generals of the US about what they wanted to do and this world and its history would have been very different..

>Basic good
>chewing gum
>perfume
i'm not even bothering reading the rest
enjoy your balkanized """country"""

you won't do it though you faggot,
you'd die from the recoil that AK's produced

>I was born after USSRs collapse, and when older people talk how they lived there, I see why we are living like this today in Georgia

>communism breeds lazy, unmotivated retards with criminal or slave mentality

მაგას მარტო ის ამბობს ვინც სამშობლო რუსის ჩირქიან მუტელზე და ძეხვზე გაცვალა.
ყლის და კუჭის მონის გარდა ვინ დაიცავს სსრკ-ს?!

>Shhh. Get back to oven especially if you don't see difference between Osmans and Mamluk Sultanate.

Now you made me angery as hell

Mamluk( бeлый paб тypкoв )( White tukish slave all around the word nothing more die for turks or people you serve )

Died in the east Europe protectin Napoleon

Bcouz of turks we have this mentally of slaves the turks made as and our history from our pagan Circassian western culture to eastern arab Asian culture

Plus bcouz of turks we get genocided in the red sea

Half of my ancestors die standing agianst turks and englos and krym tatars mongols

Circassians are best fighter's in the world

Say this to my face and i will rip your face of i am not European and i dont wanna be your culture is for sisi people go trevel polish trash go trevel in the wind piece of shit like you stinks if no one talk to you гoвнo нe тpoгaeт oнa вoняeт

Пpoдoлжaй вoнять пoляк

>stalin was soft on the baltic states
stalin illegally invaded the baltic states and millions of estonians, latvians and lithuanians which were mostly intelligent, useful and succesful people were deported to siberia where a lot of them died there

I have noted this myself but it is nostalgia of the easier but harsh life that was, In todays west you have to work multiple jobs on low income while you in DDR could get away with your mandatory and yes it really was mandatory to not be unemployed, My relatives talk about how it was less stressful as you followed the same routine over and over but oh how depressing it was.
I am not surprised by these polls.
But still these people would wake up from their honey moon dream after a couple of days being sent back to DDR.

chewing gum is a basic good that is used to make street gum. street gum is a type of urban decoration

So? compare that to what the british did to the indians or america did to the native americans and how little tolerance capitalist occupiers have for dissent. that's what stalin should have done, not allow them to get uppity even one bit.

Shouldn’t have killed Russians

get into the oven kike

Hey man, I'm glad you and your family made it through that mess and I wish you the best

თავისთავად,
I with to every commie -lover to live in USSR-like state for at least 70 years
go live in some communist shithole

S

It sucked for you Gogi.. I grew up in Tbilisi, had a Macintosh in my room as a 7 year old and an Atari in the living room. When you had a Canadian mom, your Ussr life was pretty tits.

That's always been the problems with Russians and Slavs. A Hershey bar is worth more than pussy over there.

Amen.

It collapsed because its economic system was inferior to the western one combined with states that got forcefully inprisoned within it started to break away which is only reasonable given that those countries such as Baltic states literally were annexed and forced into a union where their entire intellectium was genocided by bolshevik Swines.
Same goes for other Soviet occupied states where free thinking was discouraged and the thought of moving forward and making changes by either death or jail.
That is why this union collapsed and it was a miracle it even held out for those 60 years it existed.

russians were never killed nor oppressed, they've always lived peacefully

>to survive, communism should have become just like capitalism except with hammer and sickle aesthetics
as ridiculous as it is wrong. the USSR was inefficient, that's why it failed. the way it was structured didn't allow it to adapt as well as the US did. overwhelming bureaucracy wasted resources and stifled innovation. it was a complete failure, like every marxist revolution

nice Larp

if you had Canadian mom why the fuck you lived in Soviet Tbilisi ???

>So? compare that to what the british did to the indians or america did to the native americans and how little tolerance capitalist occupiers have for dissent. that's what stalin should have done, not allow them to get uppity even one bit.
Did you just compare an unsettled Continent with an indigenous people loosely scattered across it to countries legally and mutually protected by the Treaty of Westphalia? Holy fuck...

>It sucked for you Gogi.. I grew up in Tbilisi, had a Macintosh in my room as a 7 year old and an Atari in the living room. When you had a Canadian mom, your Ussr life was pretty tits.
>When you had a Canadian mom

And how is it relevant to the experience of any average soviet citizen? Do you suggest our fathers were supposed to impregnate your canadian mother en mass?

Ukranians, Belarussians and Russian were those who suffered the most as not only did they have to suffer a civil war and a world war that essentially wiped out entire bloodlines, But they also had to suffer through the same system as the other states.

KEK
totally owned
>Do you suggest our fathers were supposed to impregnate your canadian mother en mass?
my sides ahahaha

Hehe just like me, but we have beans and hard tortillas

I am a Russian, it fucking sucked, the stores stocked one type of everything and most of it was in short supply, meat was rare and expensive, owning a personal vehicle was bourgeois as fuck.

t. Ural region

>USSR was inefficient
again, complete nonsense. Why is North Korea still a thing you retard? Why is Cuba still a thing? Why is Somalia not top of the world, as the ultimate capitalist utopia? You operate on these absolutely retarded bluepilled presumption that

capitalism = good, socialism(or state capitalism whatever) = bad, without even begging to think about why things operate the way they operate or why they make sense in one place but not in another. The USSR was ahead of the west in many respects.

I still have an appartment on the hills behind Saburtalo. :^)

Also my mom was not a consumerist whore.. she loved life in Tbilisi.. aside from being always followed by the KGB.

>always followed by the KGB.
I had this. It's basically a free bodyguard.

>No source
Kek. Always the same with you meme posters.

>I still have an appartment on the hills behind Saburtalo. :^)

Did you manage to fuck a georgian girl?

it was inefficient af,

> be soviet citizen
> want some meat
> go to store
> sorry but you have to make request for this meat in advance because we calculate demand and supply by ourselves and with expired data
> same thing happens in ever field of industry, science, ect.

>North Korea.
Run by fear even remotely thinking of the dear leader is a danger to your and your families life.
There can't be a rebellion in such state unless orchestrated by the higher ups who bathe in champagne and other luxury goods.
>Cuba.
It is only able to run as they are not as sanctioned as North Korea if they had the same sanctions as them they would have to crack down even harder on their population in order to keep them in check.
Same story there aswell, Politicians are living the good life with luxury goods while the people have nothing and are stuck in their time capsule of a nation.
I don't like capitalism either but it is still a superior system to a planned/command economy as it self regulates itself by the market.

do you need a source on cuba having a higher life expectancy than both shartmerica and capitalist russia and china?

>Academics, members of the armed and security forces, engineers

No fucking shit they lived better they were party members and state enforcers, they fucking stole everything from the common people. Its no wonder they lived shit lives after their system of organized theft and murder crumbled underneath its own insanity and they were left with few skills or ability to survive in a system that didn't reward psychopaths and backstabbers.