How do you enforce communism in an anarchist society without a state?
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Because communism is a stateless, classless, and moneyless society.
So not a society at all. The term 'Society' implies and requires some sort of order.
Sure the reason fedora tippers say real communism has been tried is because it hasn't and would be hard to achieve. Mainly because history has shown that it always ends in authoritarian rule.
Hasn't*
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kek
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Okay, how do you enforce it though?
Private property of the means of production has to be enforced by a state the workers outnumber the capitalists by a lot.
You wouldn't theoretically it would be voluntary. I'm not advocating for it just repeating what I've heard other Communists say.
Anarchy does not literally mean no state and no hierachies. It means a small representative state and the least possible hierarchies. Anarco-Communism is a meme anyways.
>how do you enforce anarchism
bruh
communism itself is a form of anarchy depending on how you want to define things. You could call communism anarcho-primitivism but you get to keep your technology.
Anarchists (of all type) however are retarded because they think you can just start doing anarchy and not get your shit pushed in by the state next door.
This is why proper communists advocate the progression through state socialism first, once the entire world is state socialism it can simultaneously transition to communism
HAHAHAHAHAH You cant, thats the contradiction of their ideology. Their ideology can only be forced into people cuz no one would give up their properties spontaneously.
>no one would give up their properties spontaneously.
and they would be outnumbered and shot with out a state to protect them
for you see capitalism requires a state, private properly can only exist as a state legal mechanism
>outnumbered by people starving and technologically inferior
>he doesnt know u just have to produce something to it be called "private property"
>once the entire world is state socialism it can simultaneously transition to communism
*rips bong*
>a fundamental observation both jefferson and marx both agree on
>the ancap objects and imagines a specific scenario to escape into
maximum idealism
>*rips bong*
thats anti social behavior :^)
Both are wrong.
The private property is necessary to maintain the self-ownership, the control of your own body that needs water, food and shelter (in that respective order) so the right of it cannot be logically denied.
they dont enforce it. they just get stepped on my fashies and complain about actual working socialist states lel
>ancaps think their ideology triggers anyone
ancaps are the inverse of useful idiots
useless idiots
don't take ancoms seriously, they are just sacrificial shock troops for the collectivist leftist types. they fantasize about getting fucked over like the anarchists during the spanish civil war
Anarchism is gay fantasy. Self-interest and opportunism would cause it to degenerate into warlordism and anarchists have no way of stopping that from happening aside from pretending human nature isn't what it is. People will always want exert power over other people for their own benefit and will do so when they can, if you're not working with a scenario where that happens, you're not working with reality.
> How
> Because
Ladies and gentlemen, AnCom.
If u are triggered by reason that means u are a completely retard and would do us a favor by killing yourself.
That's a good question even though it isn't the one that was asked. In an anarchist society, couldn't people just gang up and force others to conform to their rules, creating a new government? Wasn't anarchy the initial state of mankind? Didn't man create governments despite the preexisting state of anarchy?
Posessions are not property. They are very distinct things and ownership of them is claimed and enforced through two very different mechanisms, as jefferson alludes to.
With out a state to defend it private property can not exist.
You are attempting to conflate the two to use the ones reasoning to defend the other.
The question was: "How do you enforce communism?". It was implied that anarchy and enforcement were self contradicting concepts making it impossible.
>Posessions are not property
And what exactly is the difference?
Ancoms don't actually exist. If they did, they'd engage in debate. I put it to you that ancoms are actually just criminals.
>triggered by reason
>ancap
>reason
kek
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>That's a good question even though it isn't the one that was asked
communism is anarchism. it was exactly what was asked.
> The inverse of an idiot is another type of idiot.
Kek
You don't. You just hope that it works.
You don't
>Posessions are not property
OK, now I am out. You dont even deserve my time.
you dont
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You dont its a free for all global market competition of communist ideologies battling it out in supranational ultraviolence while i bet on the winners
If one should need a state—which is by definition a public entity—to defend their private property, how would it be private property?
the "i don't know what communism is" leaf
aka, the leaf
>I can't be wrong if I never define the words I use!
I'm working with the assumption of " From each according to his ability, to each according to his need", which I interpret as either "my sentence is noble and I am incompetent so please give me stuff" which would not work or "I'm going to punish you for producing and live off the proceeds" which would lead me to not work, and the USSR to fall.
So, please, enlighten me.
>im right because you don't spoonfeed me
>spoonfeed me
You can't. Anarchocommunism is an oxymoron.
We just like dressing up in cool stuff
Whats gay about tribes and "warlordism"?
Anarchism is just a reaction to no upward mobility in society.
Why don't you kill yourself?
Sage
>stateless, classless, and moneyless society
>stateless
A state is any administrative organization that deals with the conductance of law and war. In it's absence in some places of the world, there is provisional law and war is tribal feuding over resources or grudges.
>classless
In ever society there exist classes, imposed expectations and duties based on sex, age, or family. Men are an inherent class in the virtue they have always seen as conscripts for military or militias. Child labor laws exclude child from the workforce due to cheap labor. Women are the primary care givers of their children. Even throughout nature classes exist as with bee and ant colonies. In the nature of our labor we are classed.
>moneyless
Every exchangeable good, and service is money. Banking and financial system are gamed system ran by cronies in politicians pockets, it requires reformation, be it even violent expulsion.
> Communism is a specific stage of socioeconomic development predicated upon a superabundance of material wealth, which is postulated to arise from advances in production technology and corresponding changes in the social relations of production. This would allow for distribution based on need and social relations based on freely-associated individuals.[4][6]
> Requires production to levels that make price moot.
> That level of productivity requires an extreme level of technology
> That technology requires expertise.
> Experts will be the only one spending time and energy.
> Come study for years to work for no status, no rewards, less chances to reproduce, etc.
> When AnCom user won't even Ctrl-c and Ctrl-v
> MFW even in an utopic scenario where said technology exists, it can only lead to collapse
Btw, it's the "my sentence is noble and I am incompetent so give me your stuff please" scenario.