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Thread for discussion of the Jewish Question, Race Realism, Anti-Communism, the Aryan Ideal, Traditionalism, Racial Nationalism, and Racial Identity Movements.
>National Socialism >Socialism That's going to be a yikes from me, dawg.
Kayden Martinez
Marxist Socialism is an abomination and horror, however National Socialism, and the focus of the PEOPLE/RACE above all else is the only viable third position option for the future.
Marxist (Left) socialism and National (Right) Socialism are "antipodal zeitgeists engaged in dialectic". That's a fancy way to say they're opposite ideologies designed to clash, like Yin and Yang.
NatSoc was fundamentally an ideology built around race, while Marxist socialism was entirely different: built around class. Hitler aimed to unite the right and left, including workers and their bosses, into a new German nation based on racial identity. Socialism, in contrast, was a class war between workers, bosses, and owners (Capitalists), aiming to build a workers state in which race and gender were insignificant. Socialists, especially Marxist socialists, were anti-religious atheists, whereas NatSoc went so far as to make Christianity the religion of the state.
The differences go on and on: Marxist socialism was internationalist, NatSoc was nationalist. Marxist socialism was egalitarian, whereas NatSoc believed that nature was unequal and required competition. Marxist socialism wanted to nationalize all private industry, while NatSoc privatized every major industry except the railroads (it considered these a military asset). In fact, Hitler once joked "they didn't need to nationalize property because they nationalized people". NatSoc drew on a range of pan-German theories, which wanted to blend Aryan workers and Aryan magnates into a super Aryan state, which would involve the eradication of class-focused socialism as a non-German ideology.
Tell me OP. Is totalitarianism for the race, a means or an end?
Ayden Mitchell
lol those were not me chief, glad to see the /nsg/ is alive today though
Kayden Peterson
totalitarianism in true national socialism is only a means to an end. In the time of the initial revolution, as well as in times of a war a totalitarian state is needed, led by the person the PEOPLE support. In times of peace, all educated (and I dont mean college-educated) land-owning, white males would have a voice in rule.
Jack Edwards
Oh okay sorry then, weird coincidence.
Aaron Reed
Ah it’s you again. You were discussing the patriotic front in your other Natsoc thread. Tell me, what is your opinion on Strasserism?
>Strasserism It's a much weaker, more leftist form of NatSoc which is why I am against it. Jews must be called out for more than just their economic exploits. It has been apparent in recent years that Jews do not just use their influence for financial gain, but for political power as well (US fighting all the wars for Israel). Strasserism also creates much weaker men than traditional National Socialism. It allows their to be a major dependency on the government with an excess of socialist policies. This allows citizens to become longterm "societal leeches" draining from society instead of producing for it. We need the positives of capitalism, with the national benefits of socialism, it needs to be the perfect blend. Strasserism is far too socialist.
Aiden Stewart
What do you guys think about the writings of Siege by James Mason by the way? Like the actual writings and arguments themselves.
How better to judge the boom of a society than its birth rates? Notice how Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy's birthrates skyrocketed passed their Jew-controlled European brother nations. National Socialism causes a nation's economy, society, and culture to EXPLODE, the way it should be!
I believe that James Mason had the right intentions, but succumbed to his internal rage, which I can understand because the situation is infuriating. I disagree with his notions of aggressive violence from the NatSoc movement. Acting violent only when provoked, will create a defensive front physically, while we wage an aggressive front politically. We need to remain in a positive light as upstanding, morally superior people. I do however believe in some aspects of accelerationism, but they should NEVER be carried out by NatSoc organizations, only lone wolves. As society continues to erode and collapse we must be seen as the shining, mighty, righteous shield in which the people shall flock to.
Siege wants us to act like the SA, violent and degenerate. We must act like the SS, upstanding, tactical, yet still strong and dangerous.
I mean we shouldn't be degenerates and Mason never said "lmao let's be degenerates" and as for Violence, in his view it should only be used if it's something worthwhile. You shouldn't just go out and shoot some blacks because memes, that's a waste of time and in his words "You're no good to the revolution dead or in jail" and Mason also advocated for use of lone wolves for these attacks over an established organization to be preferred. Violence is but a tool and we shouldn't ignore it considering all of our other tools from Mass Movementism and alike are useless considering our enemy has given us no choice but violence really. Spare question here, have you read Siege before? I can get you free PDF my man.
Yes I agree, but unfortunately with the more impressionable, less tactical thinking, especially youthful members read it and interpret it wrong. Then you get groups like AtomWaffen which give a horrible name to the NatSoc movement. I do believe that in certain aspects lone wolves are going to be necessary to accelerate things to the breaking point, however they could never be traced back to the Movement. Perfect example, the burning of the Reichstag in Germany. Was it REALLY that young communist boy, or was it the Nazi's using accelerationism? We will never know, because they kept it so under wraps.
Also yes I have a copy and have read it, you should dump pdf's though for others if you have them!
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Jonathan Perez
does there exist an english translation of rasse und kultur unserer urväter?
Chase Walker
Bump
Brandon Cruz
Can someone point me to some resources to learn about the esoteric aryan history that this song is about? I'm intrigued by it and recognize some of what is mentioned but I don't really know where to start.
its called Ariosophy, and was created by Guido von List and Jörg Lanz von Liebenfels. Start with a simple google search of Ariosophy or Armanism to get a general overview, let me know if you want more in depth resources.
Parker Rivera
The best NatSoc video I have ever seen. Made by Oscar Turner, narrated by GLR.
I see no problem with violence as long as it's honorful and serves a purpose. This can even be a minor purpose, for xample saving the fucking world. Devi wrote a nice chapter about this in "Kali Yuga". You can easily find the book on 8/pdfs/, but I bet you already have it in a mega library, you just need to look.
Well, if one of you has the german version then I can see if I find the time to translate some bits.
Matthew Gutierrez
I agree, I have no problem with just and honorable violence as well, but the problem is some people lack the proper understanding of "just and honorable" and go act beat down random niggers, which the average person see's and interprets them as the aggressors and the niggers as the victims. We must play the game very carefully and only use violence when its strategically necessary.
Thanks bro. In the comments of the original upload someone recommended a youtuber who covered those topics. Do you know which channel that might be?
Zachary Clark
That's the one I also found and just wanted to ask if it was the right one. Shorter than I expected, hope I can report back in some days.
Christopher Fisher
How the FUCK do we do it? How do we stop this madness and degeneracy? Every day for the past 40 years we have spiraled deeper and deeper into the darkness and every day we continue to do so it will become harder and harder to work our way back out. If we continue to do nothing, if we continue to operate under the very constraints that globalists want us to operate under (democracy), we will get nowhere and die sad, pathetic deaths knowing that our bloodlines will be no more pure than Brazils.
How do we bring about the end of America? How do we bring about the end of democracy? How do we bring back societal and cultural progress?
>Julius Evola I quite like Evola, and his contributions to the birth of the fascist movement. He combines the most important aspects of the Revolution, the combination of politics, race, and spirituality. I believe that in order for true NatSoc to take effect we must imbed our culture with the principles of Hermeticism, which is what Evola and Himmler intended to do in Italy and Nazi Germany respectively.
Nathaniel Scott
Unfortunately I do not, I do most of my research based on literature and not videos. Hopefully someone else might know and point you in the right direction!
Anthony Turner
Thank you brother, I post a /nsg/ thread daily around the same time. Looking forward to your report.
Colton Price
We prepare as we descend to the breaking point, and with lone wolf accelerationists the breaking point will hit in the 2030's, we must be strong, organized, and ready to rise up and usher in an age of prosperity to our people at this time. It's eerily disturbing how much the timeline is synced up with the early 20th centuries efforts.
Oliver Sanders
Could you define these principles and give me an indepth description of what Hermeticism is?
Robert Nguyen
Alright, in any case thank you for giving me the proper term for it. I look forward to learning more about the subject.
We have no organization, though. This is the problem. I agree we are reaching a point where the fabric of society will once again become malleable, but it seems like, contrary to the early 20th century, we lack the fundamental foundation of unit cohesion that the Germans did.
Hey Nazis. When are you going to start the revolution and kill the brown hordes descending upon Western countries? DO SOMETHING. There is no hope in your governments. They have all betrayed us - every last one.
Elijah Ramirez
I think they hate Hitler and nazi germany more than they hate the actual ideology.
Jack Morris
These aren't real Nazis. These are LARPers who believe that, when the day of the rope comes, their anonymous servitude will be somehow rewarded and they'll be given an SS officer uniform and the Knight's Cross. The sad truth is that they're too complacent and apathetic to accelerate the processes necessary to actualize change in their countries
HAIL VICTORY DEATH TO SHILLS DEATH TO KIKES DEATH TO “BUT IT’S SOCIALISM” BOOMERS DEATH TO SUBHUMANS DEATH TO FAGGOTS DEATH TO LEFTISTS DEATH TO USURERS HH 1488
You need to organize with other fascists and create base of support to get you, your guys, and your family through this age of darkness. If SHTF one day and you're just chilling at home on Jow Forums congratulations, you're screwed and now you're at the mercy of whoever wins out. If you're organized, you might be able to take the power vacuum as a chance to get some work done. Whether there will be a violent collapse anytime soon isn't clear. Unclear enough for me to recommend not relying on it. But just because you can't fedpost and RaHoWa doesn't mean you are powerless.
Samuel Gutierrez
OP here (mobile posting) Unfortunately I just arrived at work so can’t give an in depth answer now. Look up Hermeticism by Hermes Thrisgrate. I will post another /nsg/ after work and tomorrow same time and would love to explain. Stay strong, brother!
Noah Brown
You call yourself a national socialist. So what's so wrong about joining a natsoc party? If you truly believe in this ideology are you hot willing to fight for it? Personally, I'm a Natsoc here in Greece and I have joined the Golden Dawn party. Why can't you do the same in Burgerland without crying about "muh feds"? You act like a kike. Disgusting people like you don't deserve to call themselves National Socialists.
I mean a lot of the claims surrounding Atomwaffen Division are bullshit, those Satanist Claims are a prime example of typical rumor spreading in the movement and I hate that shit with a passion since spreading lies gets us no where but they're just another Aryan Nations tbqh but more edgy and kinda abandoned SIEGE anyways. Reasons why James Mason's Website says that they are not affiliated with Atomwaffen Division (I'd link it but it's down for renovations since they're changing the art style from that edgy Dark Foreigner style to a traditional NS style since they don't want to be associated with that stuff anymore, which is a good change. It's Siege Culture if you know what I'm talking about.)
I don't know man, Vanguard America was pretty autistic and I don't like the Americanism either considering that Fascism is incompatible with American Identity considering American Identity was created by Liberal Freemasons with Republican ideals basing themselves off of the Roman Republic which any true Fascist wouldn't agree with or like. Best of luck to you though, not going to wish failure but it's not for me.
> they're changing the art style from that edgy Dark Foreigner style to a traditional NS style
I think it will be a nice change, especially with the whole o9a fiasco. Setting the old aside and coming back with the new! I look forward to what James Mason does next.
Contemporary American identity wasn't created by the founding fathers retard.
Liam Nelson
Sadly no, but you can if you want. Charlottesville rigged game action should never be attempted again because it's stupid. Flash demonstrations, flyerings, banner drops, etc all the names of the game in this day and age. We don't play by the systems rules because they're rigged against us, we don't play by our enemies rules because we don't have to. By the time we have spread the message we are already gone before any opposition can do anything about it, and thus we continue to recruit and exist.
Yeah James Mason has been really doing good. He also came out with a book series on his beliefs in Christianity too though he's Christian Identity and believes that MK is the 3rd Testament of the Bible but yeah it's interesting to say the least. Look up "The Theocrat" on Amazon, that's the first book of his several that he wrote in prison because the backstory was that he was an atheist in prison after being busted on firearms charges. He decided that he was going to use his time to disprove the bible (insert fedora joke here) but instead gained belief in Christ. He's also been doing audio messages recently, this one is on the Christ Church shooting and his opinions on the matter bitchute.com/video/acAyAJx4ri8h/
I remember an article on siegeculture about Christianity but I never got around to reading it. I thought it was odd though seeing as Christianity is a Semitic religion. but I have read some stuff about how Christ was Aryan n sheit but I haven't given it too much attention.
Yeah desu Christian Identity is just "WE WUZ" but for white people, still I've met plenty of CI and they're very respectable and good people despite the beliefs being kinda stupid.