Why were Americans such bad soldiers in WW2?

Americans were the lowest regarded troops by their German adversaries compared with Canadians, British and Dutch. Why was this?

And this still continues to this day.

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probably because they were a bunch of 14 year old farm boys that lied about their age to escape the farm.

Their propaganda portrays them as some elite warriors that jumped from planes or landed on beaches under heavy machinegun fire.
That's what cannon fodder does.

The American strategy is unironically zergrush. FDR viewed American troops as disposable so they had the dumbest fucking tactics possible. Unironically "well they can't shoot ALL of us" strategy and mass charges of infantrymen into meat grinders.

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>Americans were the lowest regarded troops by their German adversaries
but the germans lost.

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US Army Col. David Hackworth recalled an episode that encapsulates how Germans viewed American troops. As a young soldier, guarding a prisoner-of-war camp in 1946, he mockingly asked a German lieutenant captured at Salerno: “Well, if you’re so tough, if you’re all supermen, how come you’re here captured and I’m guarding you?” The German officer, who spoke perfect English, calmly replied: “Well, it’s like this: I was on this hill as a battery commander with six 88mm anti-tank guns, and the Americans kept sending tanks down this road. We kept knocking them out. Every time they sent a tank we knocked it out. Finally, we ran out of ammunition and the Americans didn’t run out of tanks.”

A German general said much the same: “The American soldier, trained for battles of materiel, appears to rely exclusively on his material superiority and can therefore easily become a victim of a surprise move and the flexible fighting power of a bold adversary.”

>And this still continues to this day.

Are you kidding me? Iraqi, Afghan, and Syrian foot soldiers are garbage compared to our mutts. Recently civilian casualties in Afghanistan have been skyrocketing because we made the mistake of allowing them to call airstrikes. Now, they bomb everything that moves like a COD 13 year old

Doesn't even compare to their legendary WW1 suckage

America didn't fight in WW1 mate

Building a proper military takes time and experience, literally had to create it from nearly nothing from Dec 1941 onwards

Stfu
Americans did fight in WW1

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ITT:
Pissed off eurocucks that are seething because they weren't lucky enough to be born American.

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I'm from the North American continent, and I am lucky enough not to be born American

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Because american army is made of the european scum and the african elites.

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America relied entirely on combined arms, which makes perfect sense if you want to minimize your own casualties. American artillery and CAS completely devastated the Germans on the Western front

>hop into trench
>be american
>get shot

krauts had some saying like: if, upon being spotted, you're greeted with a burst of machinegun fire then it was frogs who saw you. if a storm of rapid rifle fire then it was bongs. if the sound of boots running away it was italians. but if the response was ten minutes of silence followed by a barrage of artillery then it was yanks.

kek

Ooga booga

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>be German
>use chlorine gas and shit
>complain that a shotgun is inhumane
Lmao eat shit kraut

>being Canadian ever, in any year, in any timeline.
L00000000000000000000L

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>completely devastated the Germans on the Western front
Lol, you were fighting 14 hitlerboys who cracked one sherman after another, because the standard soldiers were needed against the red army, which was a real enemy.

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America put its best into technical fields like
aviation, not infantry. The average height of an American infantryman was something like 3" shorter than the average member of the Army Air Corps.

Germans made an effort to field a quality infantryman.

>Americans were the lowest regarded troops by their German adversaries
>Why was this?

Because we were killing all of them with air strikes and artillery while the Canadians, British and Dutch were trying to pretend they were relevant. If you aren't American or Russian your contribution to the Allied forces was negligible.

Yeah after the lessons learned at Kasserine Pass I don't think the Americans suffered defeats too often.

>tanks
>artillery and CAS
Learn to read

I'm sure nobody on this board of degenerate retards is familiar with the four generations of modern warfare but it's true, we have been stuck in 2nd generation warfare since we invented it in the Civil War.

Also that's a British tank, not lend-lease.

it appears that our superiority has conceived a fair bit of irritation

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Consider the source

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You're kidding right?

How many of these were even built, like 100?

Ask your grandpa how he felt about American air strikes (when the weather was nice).

>Are you kidding me? Iraqi, Afghan, and Syrian foot soldiers are garbage compared to our mutts.
You are the best cannon fodder there ever was.

>laughs in 80 year service life

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Pffft, nigga plz. We kicked ass.
>in b4 muh german soldiers
Nigga, we were fighting the fucking japs in the jungle and those fuckers NEVER surrendered.

Did u guys know that trump is a german and the queen too?
Did u know that the germans control the banks?
It's weird cause they lost the war but won the economy war

Germans didn't like Americans because they didn't fight in the "soldierly" European way like the British and leafs. That's not a bad thing as British officers were laughed at for using honourable but retarded tank charges across open ground and other outdated tactics leading to the phrase "lions led by donkeys" for British forces. USA did rely on material superiority but if they were truly ineffective they would be laughed at, but they were not. And they were not viewed as subhuman like the "bolshevik hoarde".

>we have been stuck in 2nd generation warfare since we invented it in the Civil War.

Good video on the topic if you're interested. He goes into why organized armies have such trouble fighting guerillas like the Taliban or the Viet Cong.

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Yeah, and the real Americans troops were busy burning the Japanese to death with flamethrowers. So consider yourself lucky.

I support all white soldiers and reject these kikes trying to divide us.
Sorry to German bros, we were brainwashed and didn’t know. My grandpa who fought in WW2 even admitted this to me.

with the exception of those that were in patton's army, they had the most ridiculous morale and discipline and embarrassed field marshal montgomery.

otherwise, yes.

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Most units were bad, but a few managed to inflict heavy loses on the germans in '44. By March '45 americans were sufficiently vetted, feared, and respected.

Monty was a joke of a FM, literally worse than any American general. I don't know why he is lauded.

>and CAS
Did Americans even use much CAS outside of Okinawa and Operation Cobra? I know the Brits had their "cab rank" system to provide on-call fires, but I've not heard much about American CAS. Returning US fighters were encouraged to interdict transportation behind the line, but that's not the same thing as being able to provide fires in support of an emergent TIC

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we were burnt out on your stupid Euro wars, we just wanted to drive-in and chill.

agreed, he was a piece of shit who wasted lives of some of the most effective troops for glory by abusing his connections to churchill

Interesting. What did think they about Canadians?

The germans didnt lose they just got dogpiled by every major power in the world. It took the combined effort of the Soviet union, British empire, America and whatever cuck traitors were available in Europe to take down Germany. Sure there was all the other based Europeans fighting for the axis but Germany did most of the grunt work. It's not really a bragging right to say that it took 6 fucking years to take down the toughest empire in all of human history with the help of pretty much the rest of the world

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>A ww2 wallhanger inside your m1 abrams during the gulf war.
>80 year service life
Be proud of that.

Neetsoc lol

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"The USAAF saw the greatest innovations in 1944 under Gen. Elwood Quesada, commander of IX Tactical Air Command, supporting the First U.S. Army. He developed the "armored column cover", where on-call fighter-bombers maintained a high-level of availability for important tank advances, allowing armor units to maintain a high tempo of exploitation even when they outran their artillery assets. He also used a modified antiaircraft radar to track friendly attack aircraft to redirect them as necessary, and experimented with assigning fighter pilots to tours as forward air controllers to familiarize them with the ground perspective. In July 1944, Quesada provided VHF aircraft radios to tank crews in Normandy. When the armored units broke out of the Normandy beachhead, tank commanders were able to communicate directly with overhead fighter-bombers. However, despite the innovation, Quesada focused his aircraft on CAS only for major offensives. Typically, both British and American attack aircraft were tasked primarily to interdiction, even though later analysis showed them to be twice as dangerous as CAS. "

Thats from wiki

I think you are confusing the western and eastern fronts. Russians were literally cannon fodder. If you were of fighting age during the war only 20% of your generation survived it.

>we were fighting japs in the jungle

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CAS support was mostly just random encounters in good weather and carpet bombing. In other words spam.

It was just at the end, sure, but they did. My x2 great grandpa was shot in the head going over the top and we still have the letter written by his buddy informing the family of his death. Just a few weeks before the war ended, too.

I read that as they liked them the least. Good. Probably because they were salty that we were kicking their asses all over while the eurotrash were busy licking each other's assholes.

He had dementia and actually phoned in on some summer day in ~2010 telling me to watch out, because the weather's good and "they'll" fly over.
He was friends since childhood with Willi Reschke, an ace pilot of the 300 JG "Wilde Sau", from who he'd share a lot of stories.
When Reschke flew against allied bombing runs, he said his victories never made him truly satisfied because for every bomber going down in flames there's 10 new ones racing up the runway. So when he run out of ammunition, he could only look on as the allied wing escaped towards german women and children.

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What do they hang inside of Spanish-made tanks?

retard

It's because of the strength of the American tech and economy.

These men had all the creature comforts during war and were regarded as lesser men for it.. despite being bigger, stronger, faster, and smarter than their euromutt enemies.

Euromutts pretended it was money, not american exceptionalism which made americans so impossible to kill, especially in comparison to slavs.

No user is correct - that was the Russian strategy but American strat was just barely above Russian levels of facerolling

The G*rmans wouldn't stood a chance against the Good Men of the Confederacy

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>Americans were the lowest regarded troops by their German adversaries
lol look at this fucking leaf.

the germans hated the americans because we had superior aviation and artillery. the US fucking steamrolled the germans in nearly every battle.

2/10 try harder next time leaf

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post your supermarket prices, leaf

Because the US was never a nation of warriors it just hugged the edge of a battlefield for major two wars and had a spectacular pr team after

And of course there were much, much more deaths on the Eastern front and Russians/Germans did much more fighting then Americans/Germans did

>Supply the British with state of the art equipment
>Horde up tons of soldiers and armaments
>"please don't interfere with our war."
>"lol okay don't worry bro"
>Send ship full of civilians (Ammunition and Arms) to Britain for surprise visit
>"shit they didn't listen, sink the ship."
>"lol war time"
>Reinforce the British and French tenfold in numbers and completely break the stalemate
>"lol now pay reparations while we party."
>Economy breaks because of dumb misplaced investments and murrican education in economics
>See prosperity of Germany as they break free from Jewish international finance and turn on their aggressors
>"oh no. Here Britain take my armaments and equipment, you too, France."
>France and all the other countries get steamrolled
>"oh no. Here Britain take these schematics to build a trillion fucking bombers and harass the shit out of Germany."
>Germany turns to attack the USR after they plot to invade while arming communist partisans in the country to commit acts of terror
>"lol here Russia, take these schematics for tanks and artillery and oh my God is your industry and production work bad. Here let me help revitalize your economy by teaching your braindead factory workers and farmers how to do their fucking jobs."
>"hey Japan I'm totally defenseless."
>"Oh no Japan attacked me time to jump in and reinforce the British ten fold again."
>"Let's just fucking nuke Japan lmao."

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we were bongs then, guy. but probably grumbling stomachs and dogs moaning in pleasure or something.

>Americans impossible to kill
131 million Americans died in that war you fucking twat

>Why were American such bad soldiers in WW2?
Italy: hold my beer

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>German level 100 and Italian level 3 vs British level 80 with American spammer/hacker and Russian noob spammer

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No idea about soldiers, but the Germans still regarded American Marines as shocktrooper-tier. Probably from the last war, to be fair. Unfortunately for future war-porn enthusiasts, we didn't get much SS/USMC action.

We've literally been murdering people around the globe since we became a country

Neato, I didn't realize it went back that far(in the US forces)

Also this
Poor Uncle Adolf was burdened by the Italians the entire war

>superior
>lose every war
Hans, please.

This is what I was talking about.

Hardly. American strategy was based on air superiority. Something that the butt hurt Germans couldn't understand because we literally changed how war was fought. Of course the idiots on the ground were cannon fodder, they had like two weeks of training and most were high school drop outs. The Russian number is accurate however for males of conscription age.

Could you explain to me what interdiction means in the air force context?

your day is coming

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>7 capital cities
within the
>first months
of a war we were
>forced into a year early

Also, Canada singehandedly ruined a second christmas truce in 1915. Thanks a lot faggots.

>131 million Americans died in that war you fucking twat
Wow, Europeans are right, our education is bad.

>being all those Mandingos

l am a Pozz-Cück. You want to know what that is? Well, let me explain.

The normal cück wants just one gift from his black bull: A black child. But the Pozz-cück wants more. He wants three gifts. We are greedy little bitches. But first, here's how it goes;

Normally I drive in my Mercedes to a street gym where ripped blacks train their muscles, there skin shining with sweat and the air filled with their scent. I am already a bit hard just from thinking about it. Sometimes I cum a bit in my pants. I get out of the car and ask who of them has AIDS. Then they know what happens.

The black man with AIDS gets into my car and we drive to somewhere isolated. Then I take a small knife and stick it inside the hole of my penis and twist it a litte. In the cückold community we call this the AIDS twister. Sure it hurts and causes me to bleed. But it is worth it.

Then the black man docks me until we both cum and I contract his AIDS. I already have 4 types of AIDS from this. That is the first gift. Then we drive on to my house and he fucks my wife, who has also contracted many types of AIDS. That is the second gift. And then 9 months later the third and best gift arrives: a black child who also has AIDS.

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To be fair, it’s not like the Germans Luftwaffe couldn’t have held their own, it was just severely neutered by the time we got into the war thanks to their own mismanagement

How about you suck a cock.

pretty sure that figure is off m8

The soviets had some very effective tactics and strategy and technological prowess. True their air power was lacking and their infantry was under equipped but they had the best tanks and used what they did have to great advantage.

Because we were pretty much an nazis ourselves.

Lol retard alert.

Save me in the screencap pls

>Why didn't Germanic Americans travel to Europe to fight harder for the British and French whom they had no allegiance nor desire to fight for, and against their German cousins. As opposed to people fighting on their own soil and/or fighting for their queen.

Gee, I wonder. Really makes you think.

You cant polish a turd.

This one is a turd.

Do you know how much a basic foot soldier costs? The MIC needs dead troops to have a need for more enlistees that need more gear to have destroyed or expend in shit hole countries by literally throwing, exploding, and shooting money away with no end in sight. Modern American troops are nothing more than defense contracts being fulfilled

us was isolationist until 1898, how are mutts this retarded. the spanish-american war kicked off your rampant global machinations by giving you a taste for foreign conquest, getting involved in the first world war took the leash off, and the second world war had you inheriting a power vacuum.

>Americans were the lowest regarded troops by their German adversaries compared with Canadians, British and Dutch. Why was this?
Well yeah, Americans were kicking the German's fucking teeth in, of course they wern't going to hold us in high regard. American forces were also the only ones that fucking mattered. The Russians had to be dragged up by the scruffs of their necks, the brits were getting V2'd to death, you leafs were little more than our cheerleading squad.
Americans also didn't go for that "hurr durr war is a gentleman's sport" mentality, We don't sugarcoat shit and pretend we like the taste. We came in, killed motherfuckers by throwing everything We had at them, and tried to get that shit done with as quickly as possible so we could go home and not have to worry about killing motherfuckers anymore.

Yeah I know the Soviets were hit and miss, not just the 15 to 1 zerg rush meme spouted by brainlets. It was mainly a consequence of Stalin purging the officers, a few competent ones were left and Russian soldiers easily were the toughest soldiers in WW2 and their shock troops were the best night fighters of any WW2 participant.