Great Climate Hoax is Over

Now that the climate hoax is busted, what will be the next big thing only the left can "save" use from. Nano plastic particles in the ocean?

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vice.com/en_us/article/597kpd/new-report-suggests-high-likelihood-of-human-civilization-coming-to-an-end-in-2050?utm_source=reddit.com
americanthinker.com/blog/2019/06/cycles_not_carbon_dioxide_control_climate.html
realclimatescience.com/2019/06/coolest-wettest-fewest-fires-on-record/
researchgate.net/publication/332245803_25_bullet_points_proving_CO2_does_not_cause_global_warming_by_a_GEOLOGIST_for_a_change
joannenova.com.au/2010/02/the-big-picture-65-million-years-of-temperature-swings/
skepticalscience.com/medieval-warm-period.htm
m.youtube.com/watch?v=4ljhGUia9Yk
sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1342937X10001966
wattsupwiththat.com/2017/07/06/bombshell-study-temperature-adjustments-account-for-nearly-all-of-the-warming-in-government-climate-data/
skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warming.htm
skepticalscience.com/empirical-evidence-for-co2-enhanced-greenhouse-effect.htm
science.nasa.gov/science-news/news-articles/solar-minimum-is-coming
cnn.com/2019/05/30/us/wettest-12-months-continental-us-wxc-trnd/index.html
youtube.com/watch?v=vp92BlLLVEI
earthobservatory.nasa.gov/world-of-change/DecadalTemp
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probably the ozone layer again.

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the hairspray thing again. girls are not using hairspray like they did in the 80s.

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C02 is a non issue. It’s waste pollution that’s damaging the planet. Libshits and republicucks don’t understand that.

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The failsafe argument. Maybe we made all that climate change shit up, but we should still pick up the trash.

Do you actually know enough about atmospheric physics to determine that climate change is a hoax? Or are you just saying it's a hoax because that's what fits with your political ideology?

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if you believe tell us your target CO2 in ppm and why

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So closer to 150 ppm extinction level. Smart.

Who ever made that meme is either a troll or retarded.

why?

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not if they fuck the farmers and ranchers by killing them in farm bills. and if fake meat is more affordable than real beef it will win because you don't need land water transportation slaughter butcher processing and shipping.
they're coming to take our cows.

sweet Jesus them are fightin words! Saddle up boys!

> Now that the climate hoax is busted

It is?

only orange headed retard leaders still believe

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It's (roughly) the concentration the atmosphere would have without human interference so that would preserve a Holocene-like climate system

Aliens

Daily reminder.

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>listen and believe
kill yourself kike

vice.com/en_us/article/597kpd/new-report-suggests-high-likelihood-of-human-civilization-coming-to-an-end-in-2050?utm_source=reddit.com

Is this just a hoax article?

yes. they have been claiming the earth is ending for 60 years now

at 150ppm you will be praying human were capable of interring. 300ppm is just a random number. No reason to be closer to 150ppm. The Earth is greening the higher we go.

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They don't even need to ship them? What do they have a onions-burger plant at every grocery store?
Fucking retard.

cold kills, warming is no big deal

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Relative to the human species timeline, 60 years is not a long time. The previous conclusions can be a century off, but still be somewhat accurate when you look at it from the geologic timescale

>300ppm is just a random number.
It's not, I already explained the reason to you:
It's the CO2 concentration of a Pleistocene interglacial - the type of climate in which human civilization happens to have developed.

Also, during the last glacial maximum CO2 was at 180ppm and mass extinction was curiously absent.

Why? What would happen at 600PPM? or 1200?

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We're not going to reach dangerously low levels by reducing CO2 emissions.

CO2 levels are lower during glacial periods and higher during interglacials. We're currently in an interglacial and have no intention of lowering CO2 concentrations to glacial period levels. Even at those levels, life on Earth still thrives.

What if I told you CO2 was not driving the warming?

What if I told you the only thing CO2 would do is make more plant life and higher crop yields?

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BUSTED????
Trudeau wants to ban single use plastic
Everything
Straws bags bottles cups everything
Trudeau 2019

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It is pretty well accepted that plants need more than 150ppm. When were at 180ppm plant did die off in high elevations where the air is thinner and the ppms are less. If man can warm the planet, then we are lucky we did so, it may have saved us all. There may come a day when we burn a much fuel as possible to add CO2 in a desperate effort to avoid a deep freeze.

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It's time for the crisis of crises. It's time to let dramafags know that we see through their affectations. It's time to uphold reason in the face of slander and infamy. It's time for the human race to no longer be shackled by emotionalism, but to pursue unbridled rightness in regards to all endeavours.

Meat also a luxury item, these transparent vegans are our future. There will be only one way to eat meat - cannibalism.

Are germans retarded? i mean not only this shills, but all folk?

I would tell you that you're wrong. Throughout geological history, CO2 has contributed to climate change.

Take the long-term carbon cycle for example. Mountain building leads to erosion and exposes silicate minerals to weathering. As a result of silicate weathering, CO2 is taken out of the atmosphere and stored in the geosphere as limestone. This brings the Earth into an icehouse state. We are currently in an icehouse state, in part due to the collision of India with Asia and the formation of the Himalayas. To enter a greenhouse state, the carbonate material is subducted and released back into the atmosphere through volcanic activity. This occurred during the Permian-Triassic extinction event.

CO2 also contributes to the glacial-interglacial cycles. Orbital forcings act as the initial warming which then leads to changes in ocean circulation patterns, allowing for the release of CO2 from the ocean, taking the Earth out of a glacial period and into an interglacial.

The most similar example to our current warming was the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum. This was a rapid spike in temperature driven by methane clathrates.

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americanthinker.com/blog/2019/06/cycles_not_carbon_dioxide_control_climate.html

realclimatescience.com/2019/06/coolest-wettest-fewest-fires-on-record/
>see a greenhead
>kill them

>Throughout geological history, CO2 has contributed to climate change.
I didnt say it didnt contribute. I said it was not DRIVING climate change.

Can you explain to me why the modern warm is different than the medieval warm or roman warm or minoan warm?

What caused these warming peaks?

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You can have more than one thing affecting the climate. Solar cycles play a role, so does CO2.

read the article please
researchgate.net/publication/332245803_25_bullet_points_proving_CO2_does_not_cause_global_warming_by_a_GEOLOGIST_for_a_change

Source for that graph? Provide the original study, not a blog if you can.

Are you denying the existence of prior warm peaks? Heres one with sources

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joannenova.com.au/2010/02/the-big-picture-65-million-years-of-temperature-swings/

Yes, plastic will likely be the next thing.

>Can you explain to me why the modern warm is different than the medieval warm or roman warm or minoan warm?

sure thing hamburger

skepticalscience.com/medieval-warm-period.htm

No, definitely not. I study this stuff so I know about fluctuations in temperature over the Holocene. This graph appears to be altered.

The Earth and it's human civilization is beyond fucked now whether or not you believe in climate change. We've passed the point of no return and now billions are going to die of famine and war. Not to mention the biosphere will be absolutely decimated to the point of mass extinction.

Clean up trash, plant more trees, look into hydrogen powere for fuel instead of oil. Seriously google “water powered car” it’s been done several times but every time big oil or car manufactures buy the patent and shut it down. You convert the engine for vapor fuel instead of liquid and you need to beef up the cooling system seriously so it doesn’t melt down, then you can fill the tank full of distilled water with a conductive agent in it, and run it through an electrolysis generator before sending it through the engine
m.youtube.com/watch?v=4ljhGUia9Yk

>skepticalscience.com/medieval-warm-period.htm
the Medieval Warm Period has known causes which explain both the scale of the warmth and the pattern. It has now become clear to scientists that the Medieval Warm Period occurred during a time which had higher than average solar radiation and less volcanic activity (both resulting in warming).

So it was driven by solar cycles. Did you know solar cycles also effect volcanic activity?

sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1342937X10001966

So if all the prior warming peaks were driven by solar cycles and not CO2, resulting in warmer temps than even today, why would todays warm peak not be driven by the same solar cycles?

a) Globally temperatures are warmer than they have been during the last 2,000 years, and
this is not true
b) the causes of Medieval warming are not the same as those causing late 20th century warming.
top kek. what causes? what causes in 21 century?

Meh, i am so tired about this shit.

>Altered
You would know about that, wouldn't you?
wattsupwiththat.com/2017/07/06/bombshell-study-temperature-adjustments-account-for-nearly-all-of-the-warming-in-government-climate-data/

You're behind the curve. The left will save us from racists/bigots/homophobes was the liberal lie after climate change. The next one will be either pedophilia is normal or veganism is the only approved Soviet party--I mean liberal diet.

>No, definitely not.
Then answer the question of what caused the prior warm peaks.

>veganism is the only approved
100% either about climate reasons or disgusting white man killing cows reason. Go see reddit vegan they are literally insane and ready to kill

>So if all the prior warming peaks were driven by solar cycles and not CO2, resulting in warmer temps than even today, why would todays warm peak not be driven by the same solar cycles?
that website was literally a google search away, hombre.
I imagine it has all the answers you're looking for.
skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warming.htm

skepticalscience.com/empirical-evidence-for-co2-enhanced-greenhouse-effect.htm

PROTIP - you can expand the articles and read an intermediate or advanced versions of them :V

Even if temperatures over the last 2000 years are the warmest it doesn't mean there is a trend and is not enough data to go on considering the Earth is 5,000,000,000 years old. That's the equivalent of polling a small rural town to figure out what the entire world thinks of an issue.

>skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warming.htm
>skepticalscience.com/empirical-evidence-for-co2-enhanced-greenhouse-effect.htm
These dont mention the primary method that the sun effects climate. Pic related.

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this is fucking stupid because of the amount of junk food consumed by demographics

you know who, statistically speaking, never home cooks a meal?

Millennials?

The sun.

CO2 wasn't as much of a driver of temperature during those peaks. It remained relatively constant. It's no longer constant and has now become the main driver of warming.

>skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warming.htm
>skepticalscience.com/empirical-evidence-for-co2-enhanced-greenhouse-effect.htm
Also this website has a clear bias and was formed entirely for the single purpose of arguing against any other drivers of climate change beyond man made factors.

The climate hoax isn't 100% busted, but it can be neutralized through an alternative framing of the problem.

Why is the sun the driver of every warm peak before this but not the modern warm peak?

The sun was in solar maximum and we would expect during that time to see warming, and we did, just like the prior warm peaks. NASA predicts we will go into minimum by 2019-2020 and we should see the cooling expected by the troughs in those prior graphs.

science.nasa.gov/science-news/news-articles/solar-minimum-is-coming

>The sun is heading toward solar minimum now. Sunspot counts were relatively high in 2014, and now they are sliding toward a low point expected in 2019-2020.

The big "thing" now is fresh water, the left is making this big to-do about how fresh water is gonna run out in certain states and around the world. Of course it's all horseshit though, as expected. I'm tinfoil enough as is to know for a fact it's garbage, unless they deliberately poison/drain reservoirs or keep up their weather manipulation faggotry with chemtrails.

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>CO2 wasn't as much of a driver of temperature during those peaks. It remained relatively constant. It's no longer constant and has now become the main driver of warming.

How would you even be able to tell? The pre-industrial temperature fluctuations are up to 2 Celsius in the past several thousand years. Right now the temperature is up 1 Celsius since the last thousand years, why couldn't this just be the Sun as well

>yes. they have been claiming the earth is ending for 60 years now
millennia

Do you know what all the people saying Solar cycles drive the climate not CO2 said? They said this winter we will see historic precipitation levels because of the solar cycles impact on cloud formation. Do you know what we saw?

cnn.com/2019/05/30/us/wettest-12-months-continental-us-wxc-trnd/index.html

>There's never been a wetter 12 months than the period that recently ended, reported the National Weather Service, which has been keeping such records for 124 years.

This is because of the pic in

Nevermind Tyrone and his family's 10th bucket of KFC this week or literally anyone of any race under 30 with a full-time job. Practically ALL wagies suffer the fast food jew in their younger years because they haven't gained experience in life yet.

The premise of the frame is as follows:
A) The world will end due to unceasing carbon emissions, twisting the Earth's climate
B) Civilization will end due to a large, politically potent part of that civilization making drastic and ill-planned moves that cripple further development

How do you solve for both?
Nuclear Power.

this made me want a burger

Because we understand that CO2 traps longwave radiation (this has been tested in the laboratory) and the temperature continues to increase as CO2 increases, even though solar activity is decreasing.

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Meanwhile, Chinese resturants over in China use actual fucking gutter sewage oil for their food. youtube.com/watch?v=vp92BlLLVEI

>Go see reddit vegan they are literally insane and ready to kill
They are not true vegans. veganism is a diet of peace.

Stop right there, Ecocaust denier!

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But it is not - indeed, cannot be - busted.

All other things being equal, and knowing nothing about climate science, the most risk free choice would be to keep CO2 levels within the range that they have been in for the last 8,000 years up to the Industrial Revolution, because we know that those levels are compatible over a long period of time with human civilisation. Anything else is a gamble. Sure, it might turn out that anthropogenic climate change all a hoax or a hysterical overreaction, but we don't know for sure either way. In general, if you have a choice between keeping some environmental variable within the normal range it's been in for millennia without issue, and fucking with it to see what happens, the status quo is always preferable. That's just common sense based on armchair reasoning, you don't need to sperg out over CO2 or temperature graphs to figure this out.

Actually, it is both. Please don't reduce everything to "simplistic" levels.

READ LINKOLA

>but we don't know for sure either way

But we do know that there is a glacial period that is on its way, so wouldn't it make sense to do everything we can to the climate to avoid this disaster?

Why is the clima change a hoax? Hasn't it been proofen since 1975?

So you are saying that for the first time in history, the solar minimum NASA projects will not cause a drop in temperature because CO2 will cause continual warming?

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THIS again??? OK: warming now is global, while the Roman etc Warm periods were northern-hemisphere only. And more importantly, the warming now is happening in a vastly shorter period of time than ever before. So it is very unlikely it is caused by 'natural' means. Cheers

HA! Spend some time in a desert in summer and see how warming is 'no big deal'! But any such statement - including mine - is irrelevant. We are talking about average GLOBAL temperatures, not "my backyard this winter" or "the city I work in this winter".

earthobservatory.nasa.gov/world-of-change/DecadalTemp

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