Is this /our/ show?

Lies meant to protect a ""perfect"" political ideology lead to death and despair
>all the migrant/refuge rape statistics that are being covered up to preserve open border policies
>all the violent crime stories committed by people of color that are being covered up to preserve diversity policies
>all the studies on transgender suicide and regret that are being censored to preserve the lgbt social trends
There has not been a more anticommunist and pro freedom of speech show in the history of modern television, yet all the fuckin normies think it means orange man bad, wtf happened?

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you can twist anything to fit your ideology if you really want to

Why were the tips actually graphite?

>yet all the fuckin normies think it means orange man bad
wait what?

>yet all the fuckin normies think it means orange man bad
Nobody thought that. When the writer started ranting about Drumpf even normies didn't know what he was talking about.

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3.6 Roentgen, not great, not terrible.

chernobylgallery.com/chernobyl-disaster/cause/
Best I can find, this is the Soviet Union after all.

To get the steam and water out the way bro. Duh. He explains that. You are clearly delusional.

The writer went on (((twitter))) and started ranting about how "hurr durr show is totally a jab at evil orange meanie" and "republicans who enjoyed the show don't get it" and other shit like this.

twitter.com/clmazin/status/1134114773455343616

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So boron carbide melts in water or something?

That seems like a stretch. Do you really think they were thinking of Trump when writing the script?

Of course fucking not and that's why the show is so great. But hey, gotta pander to the insane crowd for them woke points you know.

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Pretending to be retarded is still being retarded.

Between the writer's Orange man bad rant and some of my liberal friends trying to convince me the show is something to do with Trump lying about Russia, i had assumed most idiots who watched it somehow also magically performed the same mental gymnastics and missed the most obvious redpill

That's pretty depressing, though. The writer wrote the entire series and knew everything wrong with the socialist system, the Soviet Union, and leftist ideology but still has the nerve to support them by implying that Trump and his administrator is somehow as bad as the Soviet Union during the Chernobyl nuclear accident.

Watch this vid about it.

youtu.be/SsdLDFtbdrA

The king of the boomers himself Rush Limbaugh praised it.

Don't shill thunderfoot on Jow Forums

It really is. All I could think about watching this show was how this would never happen unless you add socialism to the equation. Without socialism people don't fear getting a bullet from higher ups and can refuse to do something they do not want to. The show is a massive redpill on the failings of a system that prefers appearances to truth. You know... kinda how the left perfers talking about how beautiful it is to be a landwhale but won't talk about the heart disease you get in the process. They literally can't even accept that Chernobyl would not have happened if Russia had not been, well, Russia.

>rants about the unrealistic explosion expectation for 37 whole minutes
>in a show that turned dozens of scientists into a single character to make it easier to follow

Phil, go to bed.

>Is this /our/ show?
Yes. Fuck commies.

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God I love the memes that came out of this show

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RMBK reactors we're "cheap" nuclear reactors. The tips were made of graphite to further save money.

They are a 10/3.6 Roentgen.

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Tips is really not a good way to describe them, they are rods like this:
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You put more of the graphite part in to speed up the reaction or the boron part to slow the reaction down.

Great AND Terrible.

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Compare Chernobyl (2019) the HBO drama to the movie the Russians are making.

Chernobyl (2019) is really very crafty. They didn't fuck around with the main scenes like the fire, the clearing of the roof, the evacuation etc. because these events were well known and any distortions would be immediately obvious.

Instead, they make a bunch of minor 'true to life' scenes that are anachronistic, ideologically-driven and clumsy (“fly over the reactor or you get the bullet,” the old Bolshevik speech, the sissy coal minister, the KGB scene, the neglectful Party man who used to work at a shoe factory scene).

Fans of the show can claim that people watching know the difference between the scenes that actually happened (mostly the action sequences) and these agenda-pushing ones that didn’t really happen but are shoehorned in ‘to depict a true-to-life impression of the Soviet system’, but the reality is that these auxillary scenes will have precisely the intended effect.

This show will mold the American public's impression of the Soviet Union and Russia for decades.

Compare this success to the upcoming Russian 'payback' movie, featuring a clumsy, stupid CIA plot against the plant that will likely be panned heavily by Russians online long before Americans have a chance to make fun of it.

Truly American propaganda is superior.

>There has not been a more anticommunist and pro freedom of speech show in the history of modern television, yet all the fuckin normies think it means orange man bad
Pfft hahaha Jow Forums's ability to stick its head up its arse is hilarious.

It's literally a show about how lies are bad. Trump is a liar. You make the connection.

>unga bunga no he's not
Very good comrade, keep toeing the party line.

Fantastic post.

I think Nuked would have been better.
Still great nonetheless

Graphite is a neutron moderator that makes the reaction go by slowing down the neutrons enough to cause a reaction.

It's like putting a turbocharger on your car, but it was the world's biggest nuclear power station instead.

t. supports parties that deny climate change

I get why commies like you are upset but Russia shouldn't be. The judaeo bolshevik empire that was the USSR =/= todays Russia.

fuckin kill yourself with that gay shit
ok fellas, take this to /sci/ or Jow Forums

it was more than that, the voids made by removing the control rods were filled with other materials that accelerated the reaction

When the graphite rods went in the top of the columns not only did they initially accelerate the reaction, but the rods started to push the other materials down and out of the system. this compounded a further problem at the lower part of the reactor that was generated by the test.

youtube.com/watch?v=q3d3rzFTrLg

Prove that I'm responsible for the climate changing. Go on, I'm waiting.

What show faggot?

Not all of us have Cuckflix or watch propaganda-filled television.

>tfw you're so deep into a just-about-to-be-born neo-Red Terror that you can't even fathom the possibility of applying your critiques of a 1980s left-wing autocracy to your own, actual modern-day left-wing autocracy, and make an entire series convinced that it's an ironic critique of Trump because you have disallowed any other interpretation from entering your mind
Nice digits.

The developers said they meant it about trump, or implied it, but really I agree, it seems to be a well made and tremendously damning condemnation of any and all hive-mind thinking.

You didn't.

If modern day russians are so in love with communism that they can't even themselves accept that the USSR was an absolute shitshow their opinion does not matter. On anything. Ever.

American propaganda is superior because it's true. America has a conspiracy of silence, not a conspiracy of lies.

I'm not going to bother trying. It's true that the climate is changing and humans are responsible just like it's true that RBMK reactors can explode. You deny either at your own peril.

>"but i don't think it is true"
And you never will, even after the core explodes and people walk into your office vomiting.

That's the point.

You are exactly the person you are laughing at. You just don't see it, because you're as blind to your own failings as he was.

Comedy gold.

ok but what is the agenda you think they were trying to push with the show?
>found the retard i was talking about

>RMBK reactors we're "cheap" nuclear reactors.
Are you questioning the superiority of Soviet nuclear engineering, comrade?

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The idea that the Soviets did anything particularly irresponsible after the accident is absurd.

Sure it caught them off guard the first day, but once they realized what had happened they stuck their fucking necks out, got their best scientists on the job (even the HBO series depicts this) and spared no expense financially or otherwise to fix the problem.

It’s taken as an article of faith that the Soviets ‘should have been more open’ as if that would have changed much of anything wrt putting out the fire and sealing it up.

Does anyone really think any other country in a similar situation would have done better? This is your cue to say that since there are no RBMK reactors elsewhere it’s a moot point.

But you do see what I’m getting at: just look at the issues TEPCO keeps having with an albeit less serious problem and you can easily see that dealing with serious nuclear accidents is always a clusterfuck.

you didn't see graphite

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so that the reactivity difference between a fully inserted and partially retracted control rod was greater. they were never intended to be fully retracted, and then inserted all at once. Dyatlov did everything wrong he possibly could have. for that reason, I can kinda see where Fomin's insistence that a RBMK can't explode comes from, because you'd have to disable every possible safety control and make every wrong decision, which of course Dyatlov did. on the other hand, there were like a dozen reports from witnesses that the core wasn't there.

Ah yes. Because of climate change ( which I'm apparently responsible for despite the fact that I don't own a car, don't live in a city, grow my own food when I can ) I will one day die a horrible death due to this climate change. Unless, of course, I give my tax money to those rich leftists ( who live in cities, fly private jets, only eat brand name food ) because clearly the fact that they SAY they want to reverse climate change means it's both possible and economically viable for the country.

And you haven't proven that humans are responsible for climate change. No one has. Literally all your graphs and studies are made by socialist lefties. They are establishment (((scientists))) who are basically paid to come up with a certain result to allow their sugar daddies to keep stealing away goyim taxpayer money to funnel it back into the (((scientists))) pockets.

Every single climate scientists that disagrees with the hivemind mentality is immediately shunned and labeled a "denier". How totally not religious of you guys. Yep. Environmentalism is totally NOT a modern religion for modern virtue signalers. Nope nope nope! You're only getting this feeling because you all talk like religious zealots, but clearly that's just the appearance. Surely you are all sound minded people who just want to save the planet, by taking away my tax money and using it to purchase costly "green" "renewable" energy plants that will allow for further draining of my taxpayer money.

Either you prove that I'm directly responsible for climate change and tell me why I'm supposed to give money to solve the problem, or you have been BTFO by your own zealotry. If you can't even do that then I'm afraid you are a piss poor climate advocate and should consider a different line of trolling.

>The idea that the Soviets did anything particularly irresponsible after the accident is absurd.
I agree. And the show doesn't really show that they are doing anything irresponsible, other than Legasov whining about the evacuation zone not being big enough or evacuated fast enough.

>It’s taken as an article of faith that the Soviets ‘should have been more open’ as if that would have changed much of anything wrt putting out the fire and sealing it up.
If they had been more open the accident wouldn't have happened at all, so far as the show presents it.

In reality the problem wasn't so much lies (the problems of the RBMK reactor were well known beforehand) but just shitty safety management. It's exactly the same kind of shitty management that happens all over the world - in the same year the Challenger shuttle exploded for basically the same reason in the US, and NASA tried to do exactly the same kind of coverup. The only unique thing about this experience was that it happened in a nuclear power plant.

There was nothing uniquely Soviet about this accident. It's just cheap equipment and bad safety practices. The Soviets fostered a culture of cheap equipment and bad safety practices which is why they had more of this type of accident, but you can and do get exactly the same problem in any system where those things exist.

>when there's no graphite on the roof of your reactor building

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I know exactly why the Russians are irritated.

They’re not stupid, they know that there were a lot of problems with the old system because they all have fathers and grandfathers who lived under it.

But it wasn’t a North Korea-tier dystopia. Hell even North Korea isn’t quite a North Korea-tier dystopia but at least it’s closer.

And just because the USSR was a deeply flawed society and political system doesn’t mean you want to watch a dumb propaganda show specifically designed to show your people just a few decades ago as arrogant, violent, bumbling buffoons based on one admittedly severe accident.

The equivalent here would be Russians making a movie about police brutality in the American urban ghetto, featuring mostly accurate scenes, mixed in with a few depicting rural rednecks threatening to hang black people and one showing the FBI director and sheriffs meeting secretly with the KKK to discuss how to repress ‘the niggers’. Not real life events ‘but we wanted some scenes that depict the reality of politically-sanctioned racism in America that goes all the way to the top’.

390 parts per million. Not great, not terrible.

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Mass non-white immigration is bad, and so are the lefties which promote it.

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>whataboutism
How very Soviet of you.

Very based at times. Love christina hendricks

This.

Well said.

1) nothing wrong with migrants and refuges. We are meant to help them.

2) covered up by who? Let me guess... DA JEWS?!

3) boipucci is hot as fuck. admit it you fap to it on /gif/. everyone who is openly homophobic lusts for some trannycock.

4) communism is better than whatever the fuck "liberal" society we live in today

Thank god we had all those precise temperature measurement devices scattered around the planet thousands of years ago by an ancient alien species recording the temperature of the planet before we existed, otherwise those measurements would probably be estimates at best and a piss poor interpretation of what carbon concentration in an ice core means... oh wait!

Pointing out your hypocrisy is "whataboutism" now?

Cute buzzword you got there, you'd make Stalin/Lenin proud.

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why don't you websearch it like all your responders did, lazy faggot?

>whataboutism

Lmfao I knew you spoke like a redditor, now you have been confirmed to be one. go back to Jow Forumspolitics or whatever other cesspool you come from.

>you're a climate scientist and i used to work in a shoe factory
>but i prefer my opinion to yours
It's like I'm actually living inside the tv show.

>a literal image board
>posts a link to an image

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nice buzzfeed-esque info graph

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the better American analogy for the Chernobyl disaster is the space shuttle Challenger explosion.

>trump is a liar
BUT WHAT ABOUT NIGGERS

Yeah, I'd call it whataboutism.

>getting called a newfag by 2016 r/the_donald imports
never gets old

>1) nothing wrong with migrants and refuges. We are meant to help them.

No we fucking aren't. They are invasive parasites with double-digit IQ averages that are sucking Europe and America's social welfare system dry while contributing jack shit to the societies they infest. Islam is a cancerous, invasive religion that is fundamentally incompatible with western values like freedom of speech and is literally the most violent religion on the planet. I don't want a cent of my money going to helping any of these invaders.

>Only 13% of refugees have found work:

reuters.com/article/us-europe-migrants-germany-survey-idUSKBN13A22F

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USA tv already has that show
>law and order
>any abc law show

It's true and you can't deny it so you strawman.

Trump IS a liar but so is every other politician that has ever been elected to political office. Welcome to the real world, loser.

Meanwhile double-digit IQ average spics are flooding across the southern border by the MILLIONS and millions of violent, savage Muslims and niggers are flooding into Europe as well.

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I actually really like the ideas behind the RBMK design. it eliminates the need for heavy water and/or fuel enrichment, because the graphite does all of the moderation. it was unstable at low energy, which is why bringing a shut down unit back online took 24 hours. on the other hand, old fuel assemblies could be extracted, and new ones inserted without shutting the reactor down. the one problem is that the void coefficient meant it wasn't totally idiot proof.

That's low effort bait even for you. Nice to see how you, like all the other lefties that attempted to change my mind on this, resorted to "lul I'm smart and ur dumb" approach instead of actually trying to change my mind. Weird how religious that sounds.

>"Prove to me that god exists"
>"You are just a god denier!"
>"Okay but can you prove that god exi..."
>"Bro I'm a priest and you're not so listen to me"

>getting called a newfag

No, I called you a redditor. Your hatred for the_donald proves you are nothing but a Jow Forumspolitics faggot who got lost on his way to his cuckshed.

>Only 13% of refugees have found work:
Then we must do more to help them.

>It's true and you can't deny it so you strawman.
It's not a strawman if you just excrete puresoi.

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If Trump is a jew plant then why is he giving bigger tax returns to goyim? Is giving shekels back to the goy now part of (((their))) plan? Could it be that there are good kikes among all the evil kikes? Is Trump /ourjew/ like good ol benny?

>Trump IS a liar but so is every other politician
False equivalence. Trump's behaviour is different to other politicians.

>Nice to see how you, like all the other lefties that attempted to change my mind on this, resorted to "lul I'm smart and ur dumb" approach
You're not dumb, just ignorant. I'm a literal genius but I don't try and tell construction site workers how to operate their equipment because intelligence without knowledge is pretty worthless.

I'm stunned that you can't see how much you resemble the shoe factory mayor character from the show.

Reddit didn't even exist when I started browsing this site.

>Then we must do more to help them.

No, then we must stop spending money baby sitting sub-humans and deport them.


>It's not a strawman if you just excrete puresoi.

The FBI disagrees with you, you shit-eating leftist cuck:

ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/tables/table-43

>Trump is a liar.

not any more than Obama was.

There's no graphite on the roof because the roof isn't there.

kek I can't believe I almost took you seriously

>False equivalence. Trump's behaviour is different to other politicians.

No it isn't. They're all full of shit. Go bullshit somewhere else you noxious lefty rat.

kek

If it makes you feel better, I never took you seriously.

>No it isn't.
Then why is a show about lying politicians not as much about Trump as it is about the USSR?

>No, then we must stop spending money baby sitting sub-humans and deport them.
No we must exterminate.

>The FBI disagrees with you, you shit-eating leftist cuck:
I don't give a fuck what the police, the military, or some faggy agency thinks about niggers.

>a dramatization has drama in it
If they're that triggered by a show that is deeply critical of the flaws in the communist system that raped the Russian people for most of the 20th century I would say they need to step back. Also considering its an English language show on US and British tv channels I dont think Russian were the intended audience. Lets not pretend some ass blasted ex soviet in Siberia is some holy martyr. Or that the Soviet Union wasn't a blight on humanity.

Do you really think it's funny to act retarded on purpose?

wow I wasn't aware that mass spectrometers existed 400,000 years ago

No.

They didn't.

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Yes.
Fuck communism.

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I'm weighting essay on this perspective. Progressives are literally Dyatlovs at this moment, pushing this shit Into positive reactivity loop ignoring all the warnings and alarms for only reason - they know that it cant explo... I mean, arc of history is bending towards justice and shit like this. As soon as you embrace the believe that you are on a right side of history, no matter how reality respond on this believe - you are on a way to "pumping water into my reactor" .

To prove the point - Trump election was widely admitted severe incident. Not catastrophe, not great, not horrible level, and if they have learn anything?

neoliberal capitalist propaganda, so no

Which show is this?

>haha fuck the ideology that got us into space first
Yes, I mean US. The human RACE.

>what is nuance

I don’t understand this argument that somehow it was essential for Chernobyl (2019) to represent the entire history of the Soviet Union 1917-1991.

The accident happened in 1986, why not depict the Soviet Union as it actually was at the time? And the ‘dramatization’ argument works for one or two scenes, but when you have several, all fictional, all anachronistic scenes bent in the same way that’s not just ‘drama’, that’s an agenda.

Chernobyl. A lot of artistic license taken, but it's still very good.
Read this if you want all the actual details.

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>advocating a system where people were afraid to criticize things in public
yeah nah go fuck yourself dude

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Now obviously they’re entitled to do whatever the fuck they want it’s their show, free country etc. but I am also entitled to call them sneaky dickbags for doing so when I think they are pulling a fast one.

It is BS. Nobody would get a bullet for anything pictured in the show at the time of late USSR, Legasov in real life was canceled and brought to suicide by his colleagues, not KGB.

Why is it always the most blatant commies hiding behind nazi flags? Do you think the flag makes you more believable? It literally has the opposite effect. Just go back to using US proxies you stupid euro shills.

>Cuckfoot
Did he turn into a full commie now?