Why are young men today so bad at talking to and flirting with women?

Why are young men today so bad at talking to and flirting with women?

Is it feminism, absent fathers, anxiety?

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Bad experiences with women at a young age. Constant rejection and ridicule in middle school and high school. Some guys are able to improve their social skills later in life, but many end up feeling worthless, and such becomes their reality.

it's a combonation of making even a little mistake leading to being seen as a perv or rapist. Not only that because of the high numebr of birth control that although women want an aggresive man they still hate them beacuse that's what they have been told to do, plus many zoomer girls are into androgynous men, which many men aren't

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Women expect men to swoop them off their feet with charm and coolness. They don't live in the real world.

Like these pussies:
Young men aren’t men. They’re girly little faggots. I’m not the manliest dude by a long stretch, but compared to these mincing twinkle-toed fairies I’m a goddamned Viking.

Wtf

> h-hi
> omg he messed up saying hi not the pinnacle of perfection so I better keep looking for prince perfect he has to be out there somewhere!

Hey OP you’re not a faggot because you actually posted a thread which has an objective answer. That being porn.

Too much fapping is the actual reason

Women are equally bad at talking to men. They are stunted emotionally. Most of them do not know how to carry on a normal respectful conversation in person. What world are you living in?

How to get a girl:
- get five good tinder photos
- get unlimited swipes
- message everyone of them for a response and try to get number
- ask her out to see if "we vibe" by getting drinks or food
- after take her to a view then kiss
- then make out then take her to your place because "it's cold"
- keep doing this until one likes you after the first time you have sex
- keep doing this until you get a girl who actually is into you and get rejected a million times lol
- gf... after a few dates buy her a steak and ask her out after sex
- bam

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Solid post well done, unlimited swipes really that good?

Define "women". That thing in your OP isn't one, and there is nothing wrong with males if they don't want to or can't drum up the enthusiasm to talk to it.

Here's a woman

They always were. The only difference is that women weren't overentitled cunts and they were actually cooperative.

What kind of oratory skill do you imagine can save you from "lol k" and "yikes" and such oneliners? It's not the flirting style, it's the complete lack of interest in a normal human relationship from women.

Don't get matches with five photos that are as good as I'm going to get without being outright fraudulent. Now what?

link to what the fuck you are talking about faggot

Yeah. That’s it. It’s not that you act like a fucking gelding. It’s not that you cry your eyes out if you break a fingernail. It’s not that you can’t look anyone in the eye. It’s not that you wouldn’t know a toolbox if it crawled up your ass and took shit. It’s choking your chicken. That’s the real problem.

I thought Aviici was a fag ?

fuck off guerilla marketing

>normal human relationship from women.
>human
>women
pick one you faggot

Modern Girls despite being rowdy as shit are actually not laid back at all so having a conversation with them is like dragging some rocks against a chalk board. Dont even get me started about how stuck up they are and how they have to be coaxed into not being a total bitch towards a guy that wants to have a conversation outside of a cell phone. Men today are also estrogen infused onions boys due to all the plastics and chemicals in the water

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Flirting is cringeworthy and outdated. It's nothing but cancer. It's nothing but a shallow way to get attention and talk about disgusting things to be "sexy". Good riddance, I hope flirting dies forever.

That's very true women have absolutely nothing to say to men. They have no clue how to relate to men at all none 0. They just sort of sit there and stare and smile and expect you to sort of say something that is going to make them think you're f****** amazing

We do not know how it was before. We can only experience it through movies n shit. And that is not very objective. I doubt 100 years ago everyone was a chad. There is big difference between flirting and making family and babies.

>9hB6EJ5H
rejected before you have the success. It's just part of the game. The only reason why you don't get laid is because you're not approaching.

Source?

It's very true they have no idea what they actually want for men or their concept of what they want or are expected to get for men is unbelievably ridiculous. Like men are these people are going to come in and just shower them with gifts and attention from no f****** reason at all.

>Mandrake, have you never wondered why
>I drink only distilled water, or rainwater
> and only pure-grain alcohol?

This. Absolutely not worth the investment. If you can put up with doing the song and dance for sluts godspeed to you. 2D for me.

Flirting is unatural. The conception ov it is barely even a century old.

No warrior culture. Boys need to learn to be alpha again. Going to war with iran is a good start

Maybe they just fucking think you’re a fucking pansy fucking lilac because you fucking can’t spell fucking fucking without fucking asterisks.

Literally this. At my university you can get expelled for sexual harassment. Their sexual harassment policy states that something is considered sexual harassment if the person being harassed interprets it that way. So if I ask a girl out she decide to fuck my life up for fun an get me expelled. Shit, I could just say "Hey" to a girl and the same thing happens. The policy makes it explicitly clear that the "harasser's" perspective isn't considered. What am I meant to do in this situation? I'm not going to risk my education just for the chance at getting pussy.

It's time to rape women for sex.

Men care too much of what people think of them. The best way to escape this is to pretend that you are acting, and ironically ask women out on dates. It works for some weird reason.

Always a fucking Jew saying what to do. Go fuck yourself

Are you retarded? There's been flirting for as long as there have been humans. "Barely even a century old" my ass.

>spend all your time playing video gaymes, and a borderline anti social life in general
>get together on faggy trash like discord alongisde other low life jerk offs, up and coming kid jerkoffs and mix up and marinate the faggotry
>muh tough buy online, fagtard irl
>can't talk to wimenz, what do

really Jow Forums why can't most pencil necks/drain pipe necks talk to wimenz? To be fair for the most part this is starting to become a lifestyle that's promoted by the media aswell, and kids being caught up in this from a young age are just fucked.

>Why are young men today so bad at talking to and flirting with women
Yeas, sorry, bot NO, don't want a false rape allegation.
Kill all women, male tha world a wayyyy more just place.

Just treat them like shit. Insult them, tell them what to do, and tell them shut up, but all with a playful undertone. Women like that, especially the ones with no personality. Them whining at you is their surrogate personality, being the bitch to your silly demands.

implying women are any better

>get tinder
>get first match
>ask her what she likes doing in her past time
>going out with friends, music, shopping, sleeping (for some reason they often mention it)
Bitch, I'm not asking you "what gives you a dopamine kick" but Im searching for something that we both could enjoy doing together.
I blame social media. In face to face interactions you can read much more than from simple text.

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Lol no. In the old days, men didn't need their permission to take what they wanted.

The game is rigged, but you cannot lose if you do not play.

they put the pussy on a pedastal

The reason women get drunk is for them to loosen up for you to rape them. Women are fucked up in their head.

PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS

i hope people dont take this seriously.

>women sense my power
>and they seek the life essence

What do you think courting was? What do you think Court Love was? Why was the most popular story in Medieval Western Europe (King Arthur) underlined with love created by flirting (Lancelot) trumping love created by force (Arthur).

>Why are young men today so bad at talking to and flirting with women?

Because we don't want to get arrested.

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women would rather work a soulcrushing job and have casual sex with chad until their 30s and settle down with a beta provider than get with a beta provider in their 20s.

If you're an average looking guy you aren't even on the radar to them sexually.

She's a pretty well-known camwhore/video seller of femdom/cuck/humiliation porn.

is wearing diapers during combat part of warrior culture?

>t. inspin

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Let me get really technical with this pick up girl shit for you anons:

So you really want to get laid huh?
1. Groom for god sakes and money to at least look presentable
2. Get 5 different outfits. I recommend one black and white button up with fitted jeans and some boat or nice shoes.
3. Get 5 really good non selfie pictures from a professional camera or a iPhone. One photo with friends another somewhere nice.
4. Tinder Gold/Unlimted swipes is GOD tier. You want to swipe constantly for hours for a couple weeks so you can build a pipeline.
5. When you get matches the goal is to flirt a little and say "we should hang and see if we vibe"
If she saids "yes"
Message "cool what's your number, I'll text you my name"
6. Once you got her number/insta you want to carry the convo for a couple days here and there pressure on and off and once you see the conversation going really well say "I'm free on Friday or Wednesday; let's hang because I know this great place called "" we should go.
7. Some agree some don't, if she's not down or busy keep pressing here and there but don't waste too much time with her. She probably just likes attention.
8. Go to a place 5-15 mins from your house to pull her to ur place easily. But you might want to get drinks then go to a nice view. Transition is hard; you might get rejected if you have bad convo skills.
9. One clicks and goes to the view. Try to kiss. Don't make out too much. Build the sexual tension.
10. Take her to your place and tell her let's go to my place but "we won't have sex, just to chill lol" anything desu "I'm cold" anything.
11. Pray that she wants to fuck you in your room.
12. Repeat until you have so many dates to practice.

she has to eat all the eggs

This is bad advice. This doesnt work. Please for the love of God dont take this seriously.

Yup. This is the fucking way it is. I did an experiment one time in college. I had this class where there were about 20 guys, maybe 3 girls and only one was even passably good looking. But she had a weird witchy sex vibe. Of course, you could never get near her because every fucking guy in the joint was trying to get her to laugh, or talk to her, or whatever. It was almost like a movie. I played it a bit cool and said “Hi” but didn’t fawn. Nothing. She looked right through me. Then I thought: “Hmmm...let’s go the other way.” I started ignoring her. After a few days she started going out of her way to say ‘hi’ to me or ask me something about something. I’d be very curt with her. Not mean, but real fucking short like she was interrupting me from something important. Two weeks later she was in my dorm room.

Wearing diapers is implicitly Nietzchien and very Proto-Indo-European. Israeli Diaper Force is Apollonian to the toilet's Dyonisian.

im on well past 200. ill keep trying but once I hit 30 im callin quits

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It's probably video games my dude...

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To think a nigger does not need to do all that to fuck them lol

My cock and balls would seem to indicate otherwise.

>"we should hang and see if we vibe"

Don't say this boys, she'll think you're an autistic alien and she won't be far wrong. Just say "Do you want to get a drink sometime?", if you're matched on Tinder, the answer is usually yes, irl, even if she says no, you don't look like an idiot.

Two things,
Texting and social risk.

Texting/im has removed nuances and nonverbal parts of social interaction, they dont get practice talking to people face to face.

Social risk,
30 years ago, cringelord talks to a girl , get rejected , couple people find out, everybody forgets about it in 2 weeks

Today, cringlord talks to girl, gets rejected , she informs all her friends and openly mocks you on social media, and your rep is permanently tarnished and it is recorded forever. The smart thing to do is non-interaction.

Also:

why would you want to talk to a woman anyway. They rarely have anything worth listening to.

Shit man, you're way over the edge.

Have sex

Pretty much. Some dickheads in the late ‘80s or early ‘90s did a study about “what pickup lines are the most effective?” the number one, by a long fucking shot was: “Hi.”

Low test

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>Men care too much of what people think of them

Is this true though?

I personally was never taught anything about women from my dad. My mother would give typical horrible mom advice about girls. It wasn't until I was in my 20's and started looking around for advice did I learn the true nature of girls.

However, what I learned from the previous 20 years is deeply ingrained into me, and I have to get into a very different kind of mindset consciously if I attempt to flirt with a girl. I can do it fine. But getting intimate still makes me literally shake with nervousness, no matter how much I try to relax. Maybe it's because I think I'm a fraud for having gotten the girl this far by thinking that I'm "cheating" since I'm going against everything I was brought up to believe to do. Like I'm in the middle of robbing a bank and I realize that I'm about to get away with it without anyone ever having known.

Teaching your boys about women, either through example or through several talks, is really really vital to being successful with women. Otherwise one could hope that they could also learn from a friend who had a dad that he learned from example. I don't entirely blame my dad for not teaching me though. I think he just learned from example from his dad without consciously realizing it and figured that boys just "know". And maybe some do. But I didn't. That's also why this anti masculinity thing is so fucking stupid. How are these kids of the next generation going to know how to talk to girls when the fathers are feminized and are just regurgitating a womans idea of what she thinks she wants, which as we all know, is completely different from what she actually wants.

How to enable the degeneration of society 101

Very few women are actually pretty. Catch them without makeup and see. Quit putting them on a pedestal

Because if you say the wrong thing to the wrong woman at the wrong time your life career etc can be ended. Maybe not immediately but 20 years later and you’re in some high level position that woman you flirted with can be persuaded by your rivals to just fuck over your career and probably your entire life especially if any sex was had

It’s just not fucking worth it in this day and age to just flirt and hook up. Either you wait until you have someone you can marry or you’re potentially fucked all it takes is one false claim of being “inappropriate” not even outright raped and you’re fucked

Yes, 100%. At least the ones having trouble talking to women do.

More like “he messed up saying hi omg rape ruin his whole life”

Way to much work for nothing

>get a whore gf 101

The more you experience women, the less you want to be around them.

They are eternally triggered about something and its all your fault even if you dont know them. You are the archetypal oppressor, so it doesnt matter how you act or what youve done, if you are a man you are evil in their eyes.

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In the modern day “what people think of you” can ruin your fucking life

The whole kavanaugh shitshow is a great example

Why didn't your dad help you?

In the UK divorce rate is around 50% I think, which means a lot of young guys (me included) being raised by a single mother. Personally without a father around I became an overly sentimental, nervous, shy, unassertive person and since my mother was so depressed throughout my youth I learned to treat her and other women as though they were very fragile. In romantic situations however that is obviously not ideal, as women understandably enjoy being teased, joked around with, etc. Surely some guys from a similar background can relate.

This

Scheer from Alberta for example has the right idea. His enemies have absolutely no ground to launch bullshit sexual harassment claims at him from like they have for so many other right leaning politicians

My dad is dead, my mom got rid of him in the early 90s over something really stupid he did, my wife left me similarly and took our child almost 2 years ago, most days I am on the edge of picking up a weapon and killing anyone who looks like they support the status quo that I see until I die.

My dad didn't do shit for me either in terms of socializing me.

Why did your wife leave you?

Why do you think that is? Did you show outward signs of being properly adjusted already?

Lack of confidence and low sexual market value.
It changes from 25 onwards when they start to have something women are looking for.

It feels degrading and disgusting. I feel like I'm treating them like an object of conquest rather than a human being. Also I have no idea how to talk romantically without sounding cheesy, meatheaded ("girl u fine" tier nigger shit) or autistic. Plus at first I really didn't like the sting of rejection and ghosting by girls, but now I honestly don't even care about that or dating at all really.

Women don't like you because you are a little bitch. You are not based. You are s o y. This is your own fault.

OBSESSED WITH ANIMAL PENISES

I can't read women. It's like a gender specific aspergers

>Why did your wife leave you?
Poverty from starting a business in my trade, things got really tight and I came home upset that someone tried to cheat me out of more money than we had left in the household that day and she laughed at me, I lost my shit at her for that (yelling) and she threatened to call the police. She had already been disrespectful in the weeks leading up to it as my savings dwindled.

She sued me for custody and support the very month the business became profitable.

Anyone who supports this civilization is an enemy, anyone who works for a government should count themselves blessed if they personally are the only one of their family to die for their decision to collect a paycheck overseeing the destruction of our people.

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Okay Mahmoud

Went MGTOW and stopped caring about the cancer that are modern day females which are enabled by this degenerate gynocentric hell hole society.
May it all burn and die.

This post caused a whole lot of projection. I stand by it. It was a good answer to the question. High school can be hell, and many men don't get over it. Not sure why this reality causes so much butt hurt in meme flags.

was she a virgin when you married her?

>Hillary is Daenerys
Well that aged about as well as she did

that you user ?