Time to settle this, who were the aryans?

Anthony Bell
Anthony Bell

Indians europeans, persians central asians
Who the fuck is the original aryan?

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sintashta_culture
youtu.be/3JhaVxqUMn8
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennewick_Man
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jowforums.com/thread/216266068/politics
thehindu.com/sci-tech/science/how-genetics-is-settling-the-aryan-migration-debate/article19090301.ece
youtube.com/watch?v=S9H5jFcUONc
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Aryan_peoples
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_of_King_Ashoka
indo-european.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/9-chalcolithic-early-y-dna.pdf
indo-european.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/11-chalcolithic-late-y-dna.pdf

Matthew Perry
Matthew Perry

Aryan is a tribe that was called sintashta that lived in central asia before descending to india and iran
So the only aryans are their descendants in those places

Daniel Hall
Daniel Hall

According to the Nazis? Nordics.
Historically? Iranians.
According to the ancient Greeks? Greeks. Not even other people who were identical to them, they were the chosen of the God and had direct Olympian descent.
According to Mussolini? Nobody.
According to Jow Forums ? Everyone and no one. (They all claim they are huwhite, but the others aren't)
According to Amerimutts? Caucasians.
According to Arabs? Arabs.

Jace Baker
Jace Baker

They were unironically, scientifically proven White Europeans. Watch and educate yourself, memeflag Paki/Indian:
youtu.be/XSVZB3zJ35I
youtu.be/eOM2fT6tBFE

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Asher Hall
Asher Hall

Dravidians.
Look at these specimen. They actually have nordic features just ana example of true Aryans were the ancient farmers of Indus valley.

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Jack Murphy
Jack Murphy

Persians without plastic surgery are dirtier than arabs desu.

Jaxon Bell
Jaxon Bell

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Henry White
Henry White

They coined the term Aryan, though.

Colton Diaz
Colton Diaz

Whitoids will tell you it's the Yamnayas but yamnaya culture proved that they were never white to begin with. They were darker than europeans with non-blue/green eyes and black hair.

Nicholas Taylor
Nicholas Taylor

Those are albinos, Pajeet. Take that memeflag off. European skin isn't albinism.

Anthony Peterson
Anthony Peterson

This is true
They were the Andronovo, not the Yamnaya. The Andronovo were fully genetically European and had a genotype similar to modern day Germanics or Slavics.

Justin Ross
Justin Ross

yes

Kayden Green
Kayden Green

wrong

William Lewis
William Lewis

Warning : Literally all memeflags in here are either Indians or Pakis.

Levi Hall
Levi Hall

I'm not talking about skin color. Look at this man for example, could you tell he is indian? No because dravidians have Nordic features its just doesn't pop up due to their skin color and race mixing with abos.

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Christopher Bailey
Christopher Bailey

Do you consider yourself aryan? Post pic

Jaxson Mitchell
Jaxson Mitchell

This is true. Aryans were proto-Slavs that went east. Some returned over time to their homeland, but were called Scytians/Sarmatians, even Alans or Huns by then.

Aiden Nelson
Aiden Nelson

I just watched that video last night by Survive the Jive. It's really good. He also gives links to all the source material in case anyone wants to read the papers.

Eli Harris
Eli Harris

Aryans replaced hunter gatherers in Northern Europe almost completely, whereas they only mixed a tiny bit with Australoid Indians.

Indians however have resisted christcuckery and pisslam and stuck to their Aryan culture.

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Ryan Hughes
Ryan Hughes

Christian and islamic culture is cleaner imo

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Owen Anderson
Owen Anderson

Dravidians have Nordic features
No they don't. The man you posted doesn't. He just has a skin disorder. That's not the right Indian genotype. Talking about genes (which is more important than phenotype anyway), all Indians cluster very far away from Europeans. If you gave that man a DNA test, he would cluster far away from Europeans. If you gave him an IQ test, his results would differ too. If you gave him a psychometric analysis, that will differ too. The bacteria in his mouth and gut s different from that of a European. The prevalence of true blue-eyed and blonde hair gene in that man is absent. The occurrence of genes that makes European behave a certain way is different in that man. You're talking right out your ass like a typical meme flagged Indiot.

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Luke Foster
Luke Foster

Yamnaya cluster literally with finno ugrics tribes
Finns for example are 67% yamnaya the highest proportion in the world, also all indo european tribes were blonde or redhead except yamnaya ( excess of chg ancestry)

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Jace Moore
Jace Moore

So i've been told

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Jeremiah Baker
Jeremiah Baker

Yeah, but not exactly. Aryans (and others) replaced Sardian/Basque-niggers. Its not one grouo but a constant wave after wave of new people ultimately from the East.

Connor Rivera
Connor Rivera

Thats a fullblooded Dravidian. Not a nigger, but an example of convergent evolution.

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Connor Cook
Connor Cook

Basque are unironically much better than you in every metric thou

Nicholas Young
Nicholas Young

The original Indo-Europeans were CHG + EEHG. CHG = Caucasus Hunter Gatherers, EEHG = Eastern European Hunter Gatherer.

Both of these populations are present in modern Indians and Europeans.

The Indian flag ITT is a known proxy shill. Ignore.

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Ryan Morales
Ryan Morales

That's not what I'm saying. Obviously the ancient aryans were hunters and not europeans. But they do have phenotypes which are similar to europeans.

See, if you could bleach her 100% she could pass as an european.

Ayden Lee
Ayden Lee

According to Jones et al. (2015) and Haak et al. (2015), autosomic tests indicate that the Yamnaya people were the result of admixture between two different hunter-gatherer populations: distinctive "Eastern European hunter-gatherers" with high affinity to the Mal'ta–Buret' culture or other, closely related people from Siberia[4] and a population of "Caucasus hunter-gatherers" who probably arrived from the Caucasus.[15][3] Each of those two populations contributed about half the Yamnaya DNA.[5][3] According to co-author Andrea Manica of the University of Cambridge:

but but Andronovo.
Andronovo were rape baby descendents of Yamnaya. Nothing will change the fact that Proto-Indo-European culture came from Yamnaya.

Connor Gonzalez
Connor Gonzalez

Seething. Learn lingo of this place before posting, mutt.

Thomas Phillips
Thomas Phillips

Iranians are just arabs who think they are better than every Arabian country.

Cooper Stewart
Cooper Stewart

Yeah. That only means that protoEuropeans tried to uplift unwashed masses of SouthIndian niggers. Tried is a key word. They even butchered sanskrit protoreligion into this hindu bullshit.

Brody Reyes
Brody Reyes

No source
False. The Andronovo were definitely WHG + IE. That is what modern day Europeans are too. Indians have an Onge/AASI and Iran_N component.

Europeans and Indians are genetically very different and distinct groups. I know Indians want to be White and in some retarded, ass backwards logic want to claim that, but genetics and your mere physical appearance disputes all of it. Europeans and Indians do not have a common ancestor. There is no natively Indian genetic component in Europeans. Indians are a miscegenated, inferior racial group.

When the Scythians came into contact with Indians, they knew you were different and inferior.
When the Greeks did they concluded the same.
The Romans did the same.
The Portuguese did the same.
The British did the same.
America retroactively deported 20,000 Indians out of the USA after this case as it was legally ruled that Indians were NOT White and this did not belong in America:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagat_Singh_Thind

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Zachary Taylor
Zachary Taylor

Do you have any more good sources to learn more about our Aryan heritage other than STJ?

Bentley Rogers
Bentley Rogers

We need a basque dravidian alliance to reclaim our native home in europe and india lets putt all those indo niggers in their place

Austin Garcia
Austin Garcia

As pointed out here, the Steppe_EMBA cluster doesn't even cluster with modern Germanics and Nordics.

And Sinshata_MLBA, clusters closest to modern day Indians.

Indians want to be white.
No, we just don't want *you* to we wuzz into our culture.

Scythians
Greeks
Funny you say that, the Manusmriti literally calls Greeks and Scythians to be lowly tribes. It was Indians who considered Greeks and Scythians inferior and impure.

Romans
Literally traded with Indians.

Pic related, seethe all you want shill

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Evan Lee
Evan Lee

based.

Cooper Gomez
Cooper Gomez

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Jose White
Jose White

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Julian Bell
Julian Bell

No source.

Cringe and Cope Mr. Wuzzer.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamnaya_culture
According to Jones et al. (2015) and Haak et al. (2015), autosomic tests indicate that the Yamnaya people were the result of admixture between two different hunter-gatherer populations: distinctive "Eastern European hunter-gatherers" with high affinity to the Mal'ta–Buret' culture or other, closely related people from Siberia[4] and a population of "Caucasus hunter-gatherers" who probably arrived from the Caucasus.[15][3] Each of those two populations contributed about half the Yamnaya DNA.[5][3] According to co-author Andrea Manica of the University of Cambridge:

The question of where the Yamnaya come from has been something of a mystery up to now ... we can now answer that, as we've found that their genetic make-up is a mix of Eastern European hunter-gatherers and a population from this pocket of Caucasus hunter-gatherers who weathered much of the last Ice Age in apparent isolation.[3]

According to Haak et al. (2015), "Eastern European hunter-gatherers" who inhabited today's Russia were a distinctive population of hunter-gatherers with high genetic affinity to a c. 24,000-year-old Siberian from Mal'ta–Buret' culture, which in turn resembles East Asians[17]

EEHG were literally chinks
lol

Josiah Jenkins
Josiah Jenkins

The wuzzer with the Indian flag (likely a proxy) is right now seething hard. Indo-Europeans literally descended from chinks.

Josiah Gomez
Josiah Gomez

Yamnaya cluster closer to finno ugrics , then baltics then nordic and slavs and then tajics the rest of non europeans are much far away even an spaniard is genetically closer to yamnaya than a iranians for example

Luke Ward
Luke Ward

Lol didn't we give them millions of dollars in compensation?

Jaxon Peterson
Jaxon Peterson

I was talking about Sinshata_MLBA.

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Dylan Brooks
Dylan Brooks

Low IQ Indian still posts Yamnaya crap even after the writing on the wall says they were Andronovo.
Having an IQ of 80 must suck, poonigger.
Indians don't want to be White
Kek
Romans traded with Indians
They were an empire that traded with practically all the known ancient world.

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Nathaniel Bell
Nathaniel Bell

So the original Proto-Indo-Iranians (Aryans) seem closest to Saami and Tatars, then Tajiks, and then modern Indians, from what I'm getting here.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sintashta_culture

Jayden Russell
Jayden Russell

Yamnaya were the ones who started Proto-Indo-European culture, Mr. Kang.

Xavier Gray
Xavier Gray

Im not the guy you asked but I'm Greek so I'll reply. Yes I consider Greeks to be the only Aryan race. The characteristics of the Greek Aryan Race are: tall structure 1.80+, dark brown or black hair, green blue or brown eyes, hairy legs and arms, athletic body. Those were the characteristics of the Ancient Spartans who were the purest Aryan Race. These are the characteristics that I also have as their descendant (I have dark brown hair, brown eyes, 1.90 meters tall and very athletic). Therefore I'm Aryan.

Kayden Sanders
Kayden Sanders

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Alexander Johnson
Alexander Johnson

Stj? I dont know what are you talking about, i mostly only read scientific sources and get to hear some lessons about this as a free listener at my uni. Its not rocket science you know, just seeing patterns and getting conclusions from straightforward data.

Camden Gonzalez
Camden Gonzalez

No, they weren't. The Yamnaya never came into India.
youtu.be/3JhaVxqUMn8

I know you're a dumb poonigger and won't really understand the video (even if you manage to open it). So here's the dumbed down version for you:

The Yamnaya went Westwards. Mixed with WHG and Neolithic European farmers to create the Corded Ware Culture (CWC). This makes them fully genotypical modern European. A descendant group of the CWC went South East and formed a new pastoralist group called the Andronovo. It was this group that invaded India.

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Josiah Barnes
Josiah Barnes

You're cringe too.

Carter Walker
Carter Walker

Kang, but Sintashta_MLBA doesn't cluster with modern Europeans at all.
The Sintashta culture, also known as the Sintashta-Petrovka culture[1] or Sintashta-Arkaim culture,[2] is a Bronze Age archaeological culture of the northern Eurasian steppe on the borders of Eastern Europe and Central Asia, dated to the period 2100–1800 BCE.[3] The culture is named after the Sintashta archaeological site, in Chelyabinsk Oblast, Russia.

The Sintashta culture is widely regarded as the origin of the Indo-Iranian languages. The earliest known chariots have been found in Sintashta burials, and the culture is considered a strong candidate for the origin of the technology, which spread throughout the Old World and played an important role in ancient warfare.[4] Sintashta settlements are also remarkable for the intensity of copper mining and bronze metallurgy carried out there, which is unusual for a steppe culture.[5]

Adrian Reyes
Adrian Reyes

Asha Logos
youtu.be/eOM2fT6tBFE
youtu.be/_1OVwuCdkK4
youtu.be/F-ZNTMMbVwE

Samuel Gray
Samuel Gray

Nobody brought up the Sintashta, poonigger. They have nothing to do with either your pooskinned race or Europeans at all.

Nathaniel Flores
Nathaniel Flores

The Sintashta culture is widely regarded as the origin of the Indo-Iranian languages.
What part did you miss, Albert "Nordic Chakravartin" Gupta?

Jonathan Morgan
Jonathan Morgan

IE most likely picked uped blond hair and light eyes from globular amphora culture

Julian Ortiz
Julian Ortiz

Greeks. Pure. What.

Greeks are mostly Doric conquerors of Pelasgians. Dorics most likely were a whiter folk. Greeks later thought of them as primitives - with purest dorics being considered most savage Greeks. Macedonians amirite?

Owen Butler
Owen Butler

I know you're genetically a full blooded, purebred poonigger just by how low IQ all your arguments are and with how much conviction you believe all the half truths your primitive brain tries to piece together.

Okay so here's the simplest, bite sized version for your Dravidian brain:
The sintashta were the predecessors to Iranian genetics and culture. The Iranians also contribute a component to the Indian genotype, but the Iranians are still very racially distinct from you. The Sintashta are to the Iranians what the Yamnaya are to Europeans.

Noah Moore
Noah Moore

based Indian (real) BTFOing the Nordic wewuzzer ITT (likely a VPN)

Dylan Carter
Dylan Carter

The fact that PIE originates from literal Chinks decimates all your LARP.

Sure, the andronovo bought it to India, doesn't change the fact that andronovo were also raped by descendents of chinks.

East Asians are the master race. Europeans are subhuman confirmed.

Connor Robinson
Connor Robinson

Nice memeflag, Paki.
PIE originates from chinks
The chinks aren't even in the picture here. Source or gtfo.

Joshua Nelson
Joshua Nelson

blue - huwh*te bois
red - SARMATIAN Bvlls

Isaiah Martin
Isaiah Martin

Can someone who understands this shit please explain to me how this works? why are there separate R1b and R1a and which one of them belonged to the Aryans?

and how can we know which genes belong to aryan subgroups like Celts, Romans, Greeks, etc.? or is this impossible and only the primordial tribes can be traced? To my knowledge it goes something like
I genes are the first wave of proto european hunter gatherers
J genes are the second wave of neolithinc farmers
R genes are the third wave of aryan steppe nomads

And another thing that interests me is why do they keep emphasizing that they were a culture of patriarchy and warriors, how is this any different from anyother human civiliation like china or mesopotamia or egypt for example?

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Brayden Lee
Brayden Lee

Pay dembts

Nicholas Anderson
Nicholas Anderson

Y'all need to learn about the Eurasian steppe and the Kurgan cultures. Aryans undertook successive migrations from as far east as the Altai to as far west as the danube and every time they established new colonies and kickstarted cultural revolutions in those areas, bringing foodstuffs, textiles, metals and culture into Europe.

Gabriel Mitchell
Gabriel Mitchell

According to Haak et al. (2015), "Eastern European hunter-gatherers" who inhabited today's Russia were a distinctive population of hunter-gatherers with high genetic affinity to a c. 24,000-year-old Siberian from Mal'ta–Buret' culture, which in turn resembles East Asians[17]

Like it or not, Bjorn, no matter how much you pay for that Indian VPN, you'll always have to come to terms with the fact that PIE culture (and therefore your culture by extension) descended from CHG + EEHG, and EEHG were closer to East Asians.

The Andronovo were just another stage of IE evolution. The progenitors were Yamnaya. You know, how you accuse the Chinese of "copying" Western things, same thing Aryans did, copied the Yamnaya.

Lucas Robinson
Lucas Robinson

BASED india accepting their Chinese heritage.

Alexander Scott
Alexander Scott

Serbs were the original aryan vedic culture. After the war in outer space colored people came to earth as refugees and we taught them our religion and also breeded their women

Dominic Martinez
Dominic Martinez

Survive The Jive. He has some great videos.

Josiah Cooper
Josiah Cooper

Thanks, Pagan bro

Jordan Williams
Jordan Williams

come to terms with the fact that PIE culture (and therefore your culture by extension) descended from CHG + EEHG
It's wholly irrelevant what proto-groups created the modern genetic mesh of Europeans and our associated groups to the topic of "Aryans". The fact of the matter is that Aryans/Europeans formed a racial group that dominated your kind and shaped your sub continent in all ways and still continues to do so up to the British Raj.
EEHG were closer to East Asians.
No, they weren't. Stop scamming on anime imageboards, Pajeet. The EEHG have a hypothesized genotype and they inhabited the Balkans + Carpathian mountains.

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Julian Roberts
Julian Roberts

Those are outliers

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Noah Mitchell
Noah Mitchell

No, they weren't.
Cringe. He isn't even scamming there lmao. EEHG were East Asians racially. Lol. You try to deny it in the face of evidence.

Pathetic Nordic Kang.

Nolan Morales
Nolan Morales

these :333

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Christian Sullivan
Christian Sullivan

They were not East Asians. They were probably closer to Native Americans, little Pajeet.

Carter Perry
Carter Perry

t. Jose-Fernando Santiago

Caleb Thompson
Caleb Thompson

Yamnaya ( the original cluster with fino ugrics)
Sintashta ( aryans) cluster with north east europeans

Tje only one close to yamnaya except for euros are takics

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Thomas Wright
Thomas Wright

Native Americans
So, Mongoloids.
Pajeet
Not even a pajeet.

Owen Scott
Owen Scott

Insofar as Aryans is a mythological concept that refers to the Chaddiest of whites: definitely me.

Michael Carter
Michael Carter

There are separate R1 haplotypes/groups because of allopatric genetic drift, essentially the earlier R1a was isolated from the core population and through genetic drift it changed from the host population. What confuses people is that it is sort of the reverse for R1 in europe, because R1a got here first and the R1a in the host Eurasian population changed and R1bs migrated into Europe later, so Europe has both haplotypes both from Eurasia but at different times.

how can we know which genes belong to aryan subgroups like celts romans greeks?
We have genetic data from contemporary individuals, but all ancient geneticists will insist it's a very small sub-sample to base larger demographic theory on, so don't take it as gospel. There is a lot more variation in any given population than you can gather from a few samples. We absolutely do not know what the prevalent genome for the average greek or celt or roman looked like and MOST the evidence suggests that the majority of shared sequences between all European groups date back to long before later migrations we might associate with aryans. We're talking the solutrean-gravettian periods etc, 15-45k years ago.

I genes first wave, J genes second wave, R genes third wave.
Problem with that is over thousands of years there was a hell of a lot more migration and mixing going on than 3 events possibly cover, and migration itself doesn't cause haplotype deviation, genetic drift does.

why do they emphasize a culture of patriarchy and warriors
There aren't a lot of settlement site excavations and eurasian countries of today prefer to dig up the elite burials/kurgans etc because it is more appealling to more primitive academic circles and to the nationalistic governments in those areas. Hence they find early harness, swords and wealthy males. The reality is that marriage is probably the bigger defining trait for them and it appears that young males had to vie for the affections of the daughter of the chiefs.

Anthony Cooper
Anthony Cooper

Is that the princess who was courted as the most beautiful in her kingdom cant remember if it was Turkey or Persia

Carter Thomas
Carter Thomas

Your map is to tiny like your penis

Isaiah Russell
Isaiah Russell

What the fuck are you talking about eastern european hunter gatherer cluster closer to every european populwtion , they had only 10% nagassan admixture more or less like today finns

Dominic Myers
Dominic Myers

Mongoloids
Not exactly. Even Native Americans have only 14-38% of Mal'ta / EEHG DNA. They were a unique ancient group and don't really fit in to any modern day racial groups purely as you're trying to do.

On a different topic, even Native Americans aren't fully mongoloid. They have a large caucasoid admixture as well.

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Josiah Myers
Josiah Myers

They purposely flew director toured the Carrier task force and refused all communication and hails to turn away

Isaiah Bell
Isaiah Bell

Anime characters are the only real aryans

Easton Hughes
Easton Hughes

Halt, you sayin our UKKO TIER PALEO SIBERIAN MASTER RACE COUSINS are ((CHINKS))?!?!

nah mate,..... Native Americans, our fellow Hyperboreals, aren't some riceniggers from Myanmar. The Chinese stole the first Dynasty of Uralic related Liao Civilization, and Native Americans are related to Selkups, a fellow Uralic people. Other paleo-siberians such as Yeniseyans are also related to Native Americans.

We're N-haplomeme

Dominic Morgan
Dominic Morgan

After watching this last week i researched more and after the Yamnaya went west and before the southern Andronovo migration they still had a lot of genetic contact between them

Charles Baker
Charles Baker

"James Chatters, the first anthropologist to examine the skull of Kennewick man, said that it lacked the "definitive characteristics of the classic Mongoloid stock to which modern Native Americans belong", adding that many of the characteristics of the skull "are definitive of modern-day Caucasoid peoples".
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennewick_Man

Chase Moore
Chase Moore

I think the original were in Iran,
But the more important ones were from the Black Sea region who domesticated the horse, and managed to conquer everyone including Egypt

Easton Ross
Easton Ross

And another thing that interests me is why do they keep emphasizing that they were a culture of patriarchy and warriors, how is this any different from anyother human civiliation like china or mesopotamia or egypt for example?
The story goes like this. There's a kurghan hypothesis which was eventually proven to be true, however in the begging it was pretty pseudo-scientific rambling of a feminist who slept her way into PhD. So she knew that there are these small artifacts of pre-IE cultures found in some parts of Europe - the fat venus things - and she believed this meant that the pre-IE cultures were matriarchal and since they are matriarchal they of course(!) had to be peaceful. Now the idea is obviously stupid(the fat venuses may have been for all we know an elaborate your momma joke), but the location of the "patriarchal" indoeuropeans was based on some decent research and that's why her theory was eventually proven correct.

As for patriarchy it's likely that they sort of were heavily patriarchal in comparison to the pre-IE European farmers, but that's kind of broad guesswork(for example pre-IE minonians depicted more women in art than IE myceans). The assumption that they were more warlike mostly comes from their attitude towards statesmanship - typical IE societies had parallel military and priestly authority, with the king(who had the political power) being part of the warrior society and thus aristocracy following suit(as opposed to ME where the king was more of a priestly figure).

Robert Hill
Robert Hill

Yes, thank you for adding that.

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Cooper Stewart
Cooper Stewart

Only faggots post images of men in costumes

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Kayden Miller
Kayden Miller

The aryans were a group of people that came from near the caucasus. They spread to europe, to the middle east, and to india. They interred with the native celtic and euro tribes in europe, with the the Arabs in the middle east, with the denisovans in india. This mixture created the modern populations of these regions. This is why unique haplogroups are shared from Europe to India and nowhere else. All these groups have some level of shared ancestry. This does not mean that Indians or Persian are white. It doesn't really mean anything at all. It's the story of a people who migrated to different places and interbred over time. Take that for what you will.

Chase Reed
Chase Reed

I will always be pissed i walked over the Kennewick man grave site also watching the hydroplane races only 10 years before

Ayden Johnson
Ayden Johnson

Yes. And 7 people killed themselves after getting their marriage proposal to this princess rejected. Imagine the beta-ness.

They are so beautiful :3 they must be Georgians?

But Alexandar and his army were blonde.

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Lincoln Hernandez
Lincoln Hernandez

File Name for he three girls was
adyghe-traditional-costume-north-caucasus-circassian-women

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Jaxson Diaz
Jaxson Diaz

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Noah Bailey
Noah Bailey

the patriarchy stuff is so prominent because the lady who first came up with the idea of a Yamnaya invasion of Europe was a feminist who tried to argue that evil patriarchal yamnaya raped peaceful matriarchal farmers.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marija_Gimbutas
We know Yamnaya were patriarchal and this fact alone is enough for the thot to think that farmers must have been the opposite and therefore matriarchal.

Xavier Green
Xavier Green

Ukrainian are Aryans.

Samuel Cox
Samuel Cox

He's technically right, those are referred to as the Indo-Aryans being the ones who brought the Vedic tradition to India, but most people here probably consider "Aryan" to be either the broader Indo-European, or even one of their earlier ancestors like the Ancient North Eurasians.

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Easton Martin
Easton Martin

Nobody has pointed out that khazaria the same location where the aryans origionated.

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Asher Murphy
Asher Murphy

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Brayden Sanders
Brayden Sanders

WE

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Nicholas Wright
Nicholas Wright

Pure iranian peoples. no arabs, no indians

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Josiah Morris
Josiah Morris

They were steppe nomads that settled Iran and later conquered India.

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Landon Green
Landon Green

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Brody Wilson
Brody Wilson

Goddam since le tankers the Iranian shills have been worse than the fucking Jews. I dont care what homo chart you post, these people are shitskins- case closed. There is nothing more certain on this earth than Iranians getting triggered when you remind them that they are not even remotely white.

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Noah Cooper
Noah Cooper

Iranians will fight to death online to not be confused with Pakistanis or Indians.

Literally the most racially secure people stretching from Iran to India are Dravidian South Indians.

don't speak Indo-European languages, no Aryan connection
black Gods
proud of being associated with Africans and Australian Aborigines because their literature literally says the Tamil Kingdom stretched from Africa, South India and Australia.

Ian Lopez
Ian Lopez

jowforums.com/thread/216266068/politics

David Long
David Long

the people who spend billions to lighten their skin and get surgeries to look like iranians? indians are the most racially insecure people on this planet which is why you see how often they talk about their origins.

Evan Perez
Evan Perez

No one wants to be considered Indian/Paki tbqh. I've met myriads of Arabs and Latinos who feel truly insulted if you call them Indian/paki. Everyone except you knows that your race is trash.

John Baker
John Baker

yeah i assumed it was much more complicated than that, lost of people take these haplomemes and interpret them in whatever way it suits them. I was watching this weird youtuber "Survive the Jive" posted heremaking all kinds of bold claims and pretending like there is solid evidence for it. Like he thinks scandinavians are mostly aryans even though they have mostly the proto-european I1 chromosome

yes i've heard about these feminist theories, i assumed it was the case, it was just strange to me because ive also seen right wing types getting a boner over it (like "survive the jive"), as if the aryans invented war and patriarchy and before them there was only feminism and hippies. Could be true for all i know.

Samuel Allen
Samuel Allen

Indians
are one people
read the post again lol. I specifically said South Indians.

We don't care what you think.

Nolan White
Nolan White

Kek no one gets surgeries to look like an Iranian you retard. Probably the most ridiculous thing I've read all day. They want to look like white people.

Asher Lee
Asher Lee

every Iranian i meet insisted they were Persian

Jace Reed
Jace Reed

Turk, probably. Turkics ruled large parts of Northern India. Contrary to Jow Forumstard belief it wasn't the Aryans which imposed colourism but Turks in North India.

Dylan Green
Dylan Green

Pic related tells you what happened.

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Zachary Johnson
Zachary Johnson

South Indians get surgery and skin treatment to look like northern Indu Iranians

Josiah James
Josiah James

RH-
There!

Jack Sanders
Jack Sanders

and if you have the attention span better than an ADHD-addled kid on steroiods, which which put you in the 99.99th percentile on Jow Forums, here's an article to read.

thehindu.com/sci-tech/science/how-genetics-is-settling-the-aryan-migration-debate/article19090301.ece

TL;DR: Max Müller was right about everything and poos are eternally BTFO'd.

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Michael Lopez
Michael Lopez

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Brayden Anderson
Brayden Anderson

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Ryder Brown
Ryder Brown

Israelites

Thomas Ramirez
Thomas Ramirez

Offspring of Noah. Blacks and Asians were not considered human and are not mentioned. Genesis is about the genesis of white people.
2 main races of white. R1a(Noah), R1b(Cain)

Carson Peterson
Carson Peterson

Inspite of their skin being in the first stage of blackness

Dominic Moore
Dominic Moore

Aryans replaced hunter gatherers in Northern Europe almost completely
by the time Aryans arrived hunter gatherers were already incorporated by neolithic farmers
modern europeans have significant WHG admixture

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Justin Stewart
Justin Stewart

What is that map?

Ethan Gray
Ethan Gray

South Indians want to look like Northern Indians because Northern Indians look more like white people, not Iranians.

Ryder King
Ryder King

Some of the best research out there...

youtube.com/watch?v=S9H5jFcUONc

Landon Rodriguez
Landon Rodriguez

north indians look like white people
POO DETECTED

Aiden Morgan
Aiden Morgan

best research
whole channel is we wuz everybody

Jason Hill
Jason Hill

Show your flag arab kike

Isaiah Nguyen
Isaiah Nguyen

Pastoralists near Ukraine who discovered/encountered the wheel in their travels. Made chariots. Spread their culture and language from there to Europe, Asia, and South Asia. One group that made it to China got subsumed by others there.

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Zachary Phillips
Zachary Phillips

Aryan means noble, that's all there is to it. That excludes jews tho

Jonathan Hill
Jonathan Hill

North Indians look more like White people
Pic related is probably the "whitest" looking North Indian, bollyshit star you can find
Still looks like a shitskin ISIS recruit at best

Nice try Poo, but all 1.4 billion of them are
full blown turdskins.

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Jordan Garcia
Jordan Garcia

BLACKED

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Elijah Watson
Elijah Watson

Lol I agree a poo is a poo, but my point was to some deranged Iranian who actually had the nerve to suggest that poos got surgery because they wanted to look more *Iranian* my point is that there is not a single brown south indian saying "I want surgery so I can look like an Iranian." If anything they are saying "I want surgery so I can look white."

Mason Garcia
Mason Garcia

how do you know so much about brown indians and what they think? you are clearly a filthy poo

Wyatt Ward
Wyatt Ward

By definition they were a a vedic indian tribe that spoke indo-aryan languages. Pseudo science has led to them being conflated with several other groups of people that they are only distantly connected to

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Bentley Stewart
Bentley Stewart

all homonids originated in the Americas(most certainly undersea by now)

Dravidian master race sent the defects(erectus and Neanderthal) east and they went west. This is the civilization that predates the Oldest Dryas. The tribe that is most directly descendent from this race now resides in the Himalayas. Good luck finding them, Hitler couldn't.

Andrew Flores
Andrew Flores

Her features do seem European aside from color

Chase Parker
Chase Parker

The yamnaya are not necessarily the aryans. I know that you want to believe they are because it fits your racial head canon. The yamnaya are the descendants of a group of people from siberia known as the ancient north eurasians. They are known to be related to all caucasaoids and native americans and they are probably connected to the uralic people in some way too.

The western hunter gatherers are the first europeans. They came over from anatolia 40k years ago and are the group of people whom blue eyes evolved in.

The near eastern farmers also came over from anatolia but much later.

Gavin Russell
Gavin Russell

You really need to look at the genetic evidence to make sense of all the variety in phenotypes you see.

Cooper Adams
Cooper Adams

what is the difference between a phenotype and a genotype?

William Rivera
William Rivera

PHenotype is the trait. Genotype is the actual dna. Phenotype is determined by genotype. But you can have similar looking phenotypes that are caused very different genotypes. This is caused by convergent evolution. Unrelated organisms living in similar environments sometimes develop similar traits independently. The "med" phenotype is a good example of this. It's a very generic phenotype that is found in people whom are only distantly related to one another.

Landon Richardson
Landon Richardson

Looks nothing like a Scandinavian. The mental and cognitive gymnastics faggots like you do in face of hard facts is mind blowing. But then again you are most likely not white hence why you have a harder time picking up on the racial differences that are obvious to anyone of sound mind, to you race is skin deep.

Carson Wilson
Carson Wilson

They can post cherry picked images of white passing indians and stories about aryans all you want. But a light skinned indian will not come up as european if given a dna test. The light skinned indian is more closely related to the dark skinned indian. If you decide to ignore the genetic evidence you will never be able to make sense of this. This is why people cling to the aryan pseudo science. It fits their racial head canon where the aryans are some sort of progenitor race. In reality the aryans were an indo-aryan speaking tribe from vedic india who somehow became conflated with many other groups of unrelated people.

Jace Cook
Jace Cook

Aryan isn't a scientifically acceptable term. Do you mean Nordic? indo-European? Aryan is a term made popular by 19th century occultists that borrows heavily on the Atlantean and Hyperboeran myth. A mystic super race of whites that fell from grace.

Julian Turner
Julian Turner

ARYAN ARE THE R Y DNA GROUP

As you can see the R Group migrated into golf Northern India, the Caucasus and into Europe. Why why people are often called Caucasians because they're actually from the same group. Those markers are even found in brahmins today as well as Iranians. The facts are there it's just that a lot of people don't want to accept truth actually are there you can see also in Southern India there are several migrations. There was an Asian group that migrated and then there was also the dravidian group you can see they're connected to Australia. Pretty fascinating map

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Robert Barnes
Robert Barnes

This. Genes, genes, genes. Genotype is all that matters. Everything else is irrelevant bullshit. Unless you genetically cluster in with Europeans you aren't white. Period. It's really simple. It's not rocket science.

Spoiler: Poos aren't White. But everyone except the delusional poos knew that already.

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Julian Mitchell
Julian Mitchell

Yeah. The Caucasoid Indian simply has a higher CHG admixture. Europeans have very little CHG.

Gabriel Butler
Gabriel Butler

But everyone except the delusional poos knew that already
When did Indians LARP as white? I see more Indians larping as blacks on this site.

Nathan Jackson
Nathan Jackson

WRONG Phenotype is the expression of the genotype due to environmental(external) effects. this can be due to diet, climate, gut flora. All kinds of things. And those subtle changes are inheritable. If you raise twins across the world from each other in completely different environments their phenotype will be expressed slightly differently. If you could somehow create an exact set of clones, and raise them to be introduced to completely different microbiotic conditions, their phenotype will show greater changes. You don't see this effect because all multiple birthed babies (we are oblivious to the existence of lab-grown multiple-birthed persons) share microbiotics from sharing a womb together. These changes are very subtle. Let me guess, you believe we live in the most genetically diverse time-period of homonids? The ancients practiced eugenics, and they were very good at it. Surprised you made it.

Brandon Moore
Brandon Moore

Certainly not indians

Eli Carter
Eli Carter

No it's not true. So are Indian was the term that was invented by anthropologists and it was adopted by these occult groups attributed mystical qualities to the Aryans. The Aryans were a group that came from Western Russia and had certain genetic and cultural qualities that eventually spread to most of the old world. There was also associations with cattle-herding and dairy production and wheat production which even today those groups that are related to the areas tend to have the ability to digest those two Foods. A lot of groups that aren't related to Ariens can't digest wheat for instance or have trouble digesting milk and that's a sign that they're not related to the Aryans. Were the Aryans white? This is a pretty interesting question they were definitely light-skinned because they're living up in the north although they may have Incorporated gene or two as they move South they gave them darker features and they still retain most of their Aryan qualities a lot of Indians are in this category especially the ones in the North. Also Iranians similar situation. Also Indo-European languages R another indicator that all of these groups came from one place I know a lot of people on here don't want to accept that English is actually related to Indian but it really is. This is actually discovered by linguist during the 19th century and it was really blue the minds of a lot of people who couldn't imagine that Sanskrit is actually related to for instance German. Because Hitler had ideas about Aryans and he was so unpopular the whole concept of Aryans became somewhat anathematized even though a lot of it the bulk of it was relevant and it was sort of banished for easily 50 or 60 years from Academia but due to genetics it's actually seen a Revival you can see the map posted above that is real science those are one genetics and your y DNA indicate that you have relationships those people. Ashkenazi Jews are one of the groups that are directly related Aryans

Jaxon Reed
Jaxon Reed

shows a map that discludes the native R1 population in NA
expects to be taken seriously

Colton Phillips
Colton Phillips

Aryan is located in khazaria hitler played on you all along dumb goyim

Jaxon Allen
Jaxon Allen

I've seen albino blacks in real life and seeing albino Indians is the same thing, only out of the corner of my eye would he ever pass has a white once you get a good look at said person it becomes obvious. Same way you can pick upon subtle ethnic differences and biracial people. All you really need to do is listen to your instinct 9 out of 10 it will be correct.

Dylan Mitchell
Dylan Mitchell

Mormon please go

Sebastian Fisher
Sebastian Fisher

The "Aryans" is a bad choice of term but people usually mean the racial group that invaded India when they use that term. And no, that group wasn't Vedic Indian or central Asian. They were European.
Not on Jow Forums, but on other places around the internet, Indians LARPing as Aryanz n sheet is pretty common. I chatted with a bunch of Indians during the whole pewdiepie vs Tseries thing.

Sebastian Barnes
Sebastian Barnes

Khazaria was definitely one of the centers of Aryan genetics no question about it. The map above the red blotch is khazaria. That's the map in the Opie. How many of you faggets actually have r y genetics? That's the sign of whiteness if there ever was one.

Alexander Ramirez
Alexander Ramirez

I like how Aryan migration is the most discussed topic on Jow Forums despite the fact that literally nothing happened in that time which has historical records when the Aryans came to India. Aryans were steppenigger ooga boogas who just figured out riding horses, of course they were able to defeat IVC. But after that? Where'd they go? Any records after 320 BCE (Greeks) describe Indians are dark skinned people, even Greeks praised the dark skin of Indians and the bravery of Indians against Greek armies.

William Garcia
William Garcia

An ugly European

Ryder Lopez
Ryder Lopez

wasn't Vedic Indian or central Asian.
They were absolutely Central Asian dimwit. The Vedic culture was the Aryan culture it was exactly the same one in the same thing. Sanskrit is related to Greek and Latin and all of European languages it's all one big family call the Indo-European languages. The thing that they have in common genetically is R genetics

Cooper Lee
Cooper Lee

This is just ancient aryans non sense.

Landon Perry
Landon Perry

Yes because,
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Aryan_peoples

There's nothing you can do about it. It has been decided by census that 72% of Indians are ethno-linguistically Indo-Aryans.

Iranians have also named their country after Aryans.

Please find a better name for your ethnicity, European, White, etc.

Anthony Flores
Anthony Flores

pre 1945 propaganda and re terming aryan means indo european
post 1945 aryan means only the guy who called themselves arayns aka iranians and indians (white)

Evan Smith
Evan Smith

I despise you Dravidian shudras

Charles Powell
Charles Powell

Haplogroup R is closely related to Q. It's likely that both R and Q came from the ancient north eurasians. They are a common ancestor that all caucasoids share. They are also related to native americans which is thought to be the cause of some false positives on dna tests.

Levi Sullivan
Levi Sullivan

Dravidian
Shudras
Pretty cringe desu, considering Dravidian states constantly kept Indo-Aryan power in check. Dravidians were also the first people in the subcontinent to seafar and colonize other territories.

Anthony Gray
Anthony Gray

Because the Indo niggars erased most of that history. I imagine that around 0 BC India was very stratified and the upper classes were obviously of A different race in the lower classes. Of course you know as time goes on groups struggle for equality and equal standing and intermarriage happens in the occasional white will interbreed with a negro creating what we have today in India. I mean if you look at the descriptions of various Saints from the Early Middle Ages they are all described as the White. I think most most of the type that's in India today developed in the last 300 years or so. Which coincided with British rule.

Easton Martinez
Easton Martinez

Nobody spoke of genetics back then faggot, stop making shit up. Aryan was a made up term by people that didn't knew better. Anthropology, archeology and the like were very much like psychology, it was quackery based on some little fragments of evidence and truth mixed in with allot of supposition and guess work. The term aryan is misleading because most people use to refer to nordics when by all accounts they are most likely indo-europeans that belonged to the R1 cluster. Nothing is known of this people, it's all hearsay based on very loose accounts of the Hindu legends and no actual evidence.

Anthony Reed
Anthony Reed

r1a,r1b halpogroup.that doesn`t mean that other halpogroups can not be white.

Josiah Cook
Josiah Cook

0 BCE
I bring you a description of Indians from 320 BCE.

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Jayden Myers
Jayden Myers

The original Indo-Europeans were CHG + EEHG. CHG = Caucasus Hunter Gatherers, EEHG = Eastern European Hunter Gatherer.
based, indo europeans (ancestral whites) came from basically regular hunter gatherers mixed with CHAD MAMMOTH HUNTERS FROM THE STEPPES
FACT.

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Nathaniel Campbell
Nathaniel Campbell

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Jonathan Hernandez
Jonathan Hernandez

The Han are the true superiors compared to an Indian race. Light skinned and didn't mix with fucking abos.

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Lincoln Watson
Lincoln Watson

Look at chad and cameroon. THey all belong to r1b. You need to be careful when talking about haplogroups. They account for less than 1% of your dna and say nothing about the other 45 chromosomes. Autosomal dna maps is what you need to look at when determining race

Hunter Torres
Hunter Torres

I don't think you understand what a haplogroup is. My sister has no y chromosome. Does that mean she is not white? It must if haplogroups determine race.

Zachary Jones
Zachary Jones

They weren't Central Asian. That shit flew in 2012, but David Reich's whole research in 2018 definitively makes them European. Don't @ me now, I don't feel like debating sub 90 IQ sandniggers
I think there is a huge cultural barrier here and words are getting mixed up. When Western people say "Aryan", we refer to the group/tribe/race that invaded India in 1900 BC. When Indians say "Aryan" you're probably just referring to your nobles/yourself. Is that correct?

Isaac Hernandez
Isaac Hernandez

that's what it is lol. In India, anybody who accomplished something great was called Aryaputr (son of an Aryan). Kings often called themselves this.

Easton Diaz
Easton Diaz

On one hand it's rustling to see so many people spreading lies and misinformation. But it's also interesting to see how everyone has a different definition for what an aryan is.

Elijah Torres
Elijah Torres

We are the aryans you dumb hapa.

Leo Davis
Leo Davis

Haplogroup Q is related to Finn's Sami uralic tribes and some Northern Asian tribes that eventually crossed the land bridge to the new world and became Native Americans Eskimos Inuits what have you. They're related but had a very distinct path of evolution certainly closer than Central African
It's all the displayed in that map up there and see where they branched off and one point in history whites and Northern Asians were actually the same group. And if you look at people's from that area they're kind of whitish but also kind of Asian ish it's hard to really make a distinction between white Asia when you're in that area The Tick is a chuvash which are a group that live in Western Russian region and according to geneticists they are the closest thing to that initial group and as you can see they don't really quite look Asian and they really quite look white but they could probably pass for white I would say in Russia they don't really make strong distinctions cuz they realize it's a whole spectrum of genetics between white and Asian

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Zachary Martinez
Zachary Martinez

I know, but in this context Y-DNA speaks of ancestry, not the people in general but of unbroken family line. Autosomal maps gives us a picture of the actual people in the now. But you are correct, R1 can be misleading it really depends on the specific sub group it belongs to.

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Brandon Allen
Brandon Allen

This. Finally, thank God someone understands what haplogroups are. It's cringe watching all these armchair geneticists throw around "haplogroup" because they think it makes them sound smart but they don't know what it means.

Haplogroups are only useful in determining the movement of various groups, nothing else.
Retard detected

John Sullivan
John Sullivan

I mean proto-indo-european. The term aryan comes from the sanskrit texts and was used before ww2.

Jack Myers
Jack Myers

What the f*** are you talkin about you inbred retard. Virtually anything of any credibility at all backs of everything I've said so far I don't know what the f*** you're talkin about

Matthew Perry
Matthew Perry

Hey, look! It's Adele and Adele and Adele.

Jeremiah Powell
Jeremiah Powell

When Indians fight about who is more superior and aryan because of skin color, while the true superior race sits right on top of you.

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Josiah Anderson
Josiah Anderson

Asha Logos is based. Gonna watch the other one.

Carter Collins
Carter Collins

also I think Aryan is probably one of the most common names in India. I know like 4 people who are named that.

so when Indians see this "Aryan" along with the Swastika, they think you're talking about Hindus.

Jackson Thomas
Jackson Thomas

Time to settle this, who were the asians?

Gabriel Reyes
Gabriel Reyes

retard. I never even claimed that.
also, China probably loves Indian culture more than us. They make giant statues dedicated to our emperors.

James Cruz
James Cruz

Q and R share a common ancestor. Caucasoids and native americans also share a common ancestor known as the ancient north eurasians who are the ancestors of the yamnaya. The yamana are what I guess you could call the proto indo europeans. Native americans belong to Q with low levels of R. Q is found in low levels among caucasoids. I just don't think this is all a coincidence.

Alexander Moore
Alexander Moore

horse riding tribe of wypipo who rekt indian, persian and turkic shitskins hard and left them so traumatized that they hate whites to this day

Carson James
Carson James

The PIE were the common ancestors of Indo-Iranian, Germanic, Greek, Armenian, Albanian, Slavic, Celtic and Latin peoples.

Lucas Kelly
Lucas Kelly

Yes ever noticed that women don't care about race only men do? Have a pet Theory that race is entirely in your y DNA

Thomas Stewart
Thomas Stewart

It's the only way to trace unbroken paternal lineages, and Aryans were patriarchal. There is no mtDNA that comes close to correlate well enough with the Kurgan expansion

Henry Sanders
Henry Sanders

Aryan can be used as a synonym for Indo-Iranian or, more broadly, Indo-Europeans peoples.

Jace Garcia
Jace Garcia

Why do Indians care so much about skin color and who is more "European", yet the Han are not one bit European or Ayran but still are a more superior people?

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Angel Mitchell
Angel Mitchell

to finish,you were conquered by aryans coming from the stepes,3000 bc.mostly hindu valley.there was not a class of fighters in india before that.half of you are aryan whose skin darkened because of climate.half not.your pantheon obviously has aryan elements,but many from local tribes(kali,ganesa),or a mixture of them.namaste.(in modern greek means `here we are`,funny)

Carter Moore
Carter Moore

Why do Indians care so much about skin color and who is more "European", yet the Han are not one bit European or Ayran but still are a more superior people?

They don't, Aryan is an Indian term stupid chink. In India, Aryan is almost always associated with Indians, never Europeans.

Jackson Hernandez
Jackson Hernandez

pure nordic is I1,I2 halpogroup,pre aryan.

Kevin Moore
Kevin Moore

We all share a common ancestor is picture right here is shows you how the various y-dna groups branched off going all the way back to the a group which is only found in Africa. We are in France all one big family but of course there is always sibling rivalry and there are winners and losers in this game of life and yeah the r1a people are definitely the winners. I guess maybe when they were way up in the north they generated the ability to have things that we call culture like literature and writing and agriculture all those things are associated anthropologically with the r1a group

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Josiah Hernandez
Josiah Hernandez

Wrong, R1a is the Aryan haplogroup. It is most prevalent in Eastern Europe. Aryans originated in Yamnaya culture which is mostly in modern day Ukraine and extends to the Caspian sea.

David Powell
David Powell

Aryans replaced hunter gatherers in Northern Europe almost completely,

My I1a2b y chromosome disagrees with that assertion

Justin Fisher
Justin Fisher

Besides, isn't China like famous for cutting off their noses and eyes to look more European? Like the whole of East Asia? Don't even try to pretend you're any better. Meanwhile, India actually has a lot of opposition to the "light skin" bullshit thanks to lower castes uprising.

Josiah Lewis
Josiah Lewis

Fuck, this fits cannonical indoeuropean nazist wet dreams perfectly... norwegians more yamnaya than greeks? haha!!!!!

Leo Thomas
Leo Thomas

Too broad if you ask me. White or european are much better descriptors and don't have instant connections to nazi racial ideologies.

Josiah Jenkins
Josiah Jenkins

while the true superior race sits right on top of you.
I saw more and more of Asian shilling by American flags, during the past months.

Based China/Japan/Korea!
Viet Kong won Vietnam War!
Asian GF, best GF!
Tradition and technology, based and redpilled!
Poos are shittiest of Asia

Could you Mongoloid bamboorats shut up?

Zachary Lewis
Zachary Lewis

You dumbfuck you do realise that no Upper caste Hindu wants to be white right?
We deny the aryan migration theory only whites propagate it.
We deny it because then hinduism would become a foreign religion and the muslims would start chimping out.
It's a controversial topic here.

Wyatt Cruz
Wyatt Cruz

Hard to say exactly who the igroup actually was. Is associated with Scandinavia but r1a is associated with the Vikings. Wherever the Vikings went are when they also went also if you look into history of the Vikings it is said that they came from the area of khazaria the Caucasus so that look is really associated with the Caucasus not necessarily Scandinavia

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Lucas Cook
Lucas Cook

Some mega genious please guide me through the common patterns and differences of the different Indo-European sowrds.

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Lincoln King
Lincoln King

what group is Paleo-Siberian/proto-Uralic?

Connor Brooks
Connor Brooks

they brought the wheel and animal breeding.greeks of 320bc were a mix of aryan and prearyan greeks who attacked aryan and pre aryan indians.

Parker Cook
Parker Cook

Yes and it means the brahmins are actually related more to Iranians and they are the other Indians. The migration theory was around for a long time and India there are books written about it in the 1800s and then it's just completely was demolished when Gandhi came around and created the modern state of India but it was part of Indian ideas certainly. Remember that a good portion of Indian supported Hitler in World War II. Pic related is another picture of a chuvash girl

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Easton White
Easton White

Hahahaha have fun knowing your skin is 8 shades darker than mine and I don't even care about skin color.
That's the filthy Koreans. How dare you mistaken the Han people to the cucks in the East. Brown peasant.

t. Muhammad who can't accept he is an inferior.
Bow down to your Han overlords, peasant.

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Colton Scott
Colton Scott

Good-Looking Good-Natured white people who had thee who shall not be named on their side as they destroyed evil civilizations and took all the women who loved them for being both tougher than everybody else and nicer to them.

Christian Wilson
Christian Wilson

Are you all preparing for the spring, my Indo-European bros?

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Nathan Ross
Nathan Ross

Greeks are not really like they're definitely according to genetics at least related to asiatics. Sorry Costas not happening he can see on this map that the Y DNA is not really related to that of Europe if you don't have r y DNA you're not really related to whites patrilineally

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Ryan Scott
Ryan Scott

I1 and I2 are Carls, R1b and R1a are Yarls

Zachary Martinez
Zachary Martinez

the only aryans are their descendants in those places
They left those places a long time ago, retards. Probably when the browns followed them.

Nicholas Rivera
Nicholas Rivera

sure i do.these common nowadays tests test mitohondrial dna only.if i take a test i will see my mothers dna,the mixture of my grandfather and my grandmother from my mother side.i won`t see anything from my father.it is accurate only in a general perchentage.so,you don`t understand.

Oliver Diaz
Oliver Diaz

There's genetic evidence that the ancient of ancient Greek were Hittites.

Jayden Morales
Jayden Morales

Thanks for dedicating a temple for our King.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_of_King_Ashoka

Elijah Howard
Elijah Howard

lower castes rising up is not something desirable. there's a reason why they are lower.

Andrew Peterson
Andrew Peterson

A simple fact is poop your culture wasn't Invader culture. You don't really belong in the Indian subcontinent you dominated the Indian subcontinent. Your great great great great granddaddy screwed a illiterate dravidian and that's how your family started lol

There's still plenty of R1 in India many and I ran all over that region there's always a segment of the population that has r1a genetics. Anywhere where you see literacy and what you would call civilization there are these types of genetics. Anywhere were their savagery and lack of any kind of civilization there are no r1a a genetics

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Jason Green
Jason Green

The superiors are always interested in inferior's culture.

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Oliver Cruz
Oliver Cruz

Lol no we are natives.

Jeremiah Gonzalez
Jeremiah Gonzalez

you are stupid,and go take your mother from the corner,no costumers today.halpogrups determine mitohondrial dna,so determine 100% your mothers lineage.if you don`t know,study,before you express your low iq rating in public.

Carson Bell
Carson Bell

R1b is mostly Celtic

R1a is indo European

I were the original tribal inhabitants of Scandinavia. Didn't really leave much of a trace that it probably didn't read and write that was introduced by the r croup. R's were definitely way more intelligent than other groups

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Zachary Rivera
Zachary Rivera

Show flag

Juan Bell
Juan Bell

Q y dna

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Parker Gonzalez
Parker Gonzalez

R1b also represents another ancient cloud now mostly extinct, Scythians. Both Celts and Scythians were Indo European by the way.

Justin Evans
Justin Evans

image literally shows Indo-European homeland in southern russia
central asia was known to be full of white people with blond hair before the turks ruined it
tocharians depicted by the chinese as blue eyed
"WELL THE INDIANS CONTINUED TO USE THE WORD ARYAN IN SANSKRIT (a dead language) SO CLEARLY POOS ARE THE TRUE ARYANS"

Go away, memeflag from Bombay

Oliver Sanders
Oliver Sanders

Hahaha. No nigger

I am r1a1a1a btw

Funny thought is that there's probably a lot of Southern whites that are actually african y DNA

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Isaac Foster
Isaac Foster

Scythians were likely r1a

Owen Peterson
Owen Peterson

the biggest consentration of I1 is in norway.what we call vikings is the mixture of I1 and r1a.shipping abilities were contributed from r1 i believe.

David Cooper
David Cooper

True. I'd say Indo-Euoropean male lineages have less than 100 years before effective extinction in the Americas

Ryan Williams
Ryan Williams

Were R1b and R1a, I've seen a few R1b elites.

Ryder Williams
Ryder Williams

which one is y?in that map?nice fag flag.i pie that organisation of islamisation.

Matthew Walker
Matthew Walker

Aryan is a word in Hindi, Punjabi, and so on.

The only people outside of India who unironically used Aryan to describe themselves are Americans, pretty much all Germans, British, French describe themselves by their nationality.

Bentley Sanders
Bentley Sanders

Wrong, Aryan is a word rooted in the Indo-European people, just wikipedia it and you'll see for yourself.

Jaxson Gray
Jaxson Gray

How does it feel when despite India having nearly the same population as China, most Westerners choose to learn Mandarin over Hindi because it will be the next superpower language.

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Jaxon Walker
Jaxon Walker

r1a and b are relatives.both consider indoeuropean

Liam Kelly
Liam Kelly

This. All of Europe, Central Asia, Persian coastlines, North Africa (Egypt), North-Western India, parts of China and even Japan as well as Korea, and also South America were inhabited by EUROPEANS who were described as having blonde/red/light brown hair, white skin, and light colored eyes. They had sharp caucasoid skulls and were tall. They formed the ruling class and dominated natives wherever they went. They were our ancestors. We Europeans still possess their beauty, their intelligence and their prowess in battle.

It's the European race that created the world. The European race is special. That is why they hate us. If there are any Gods out there, we are their descendants.

Embrace the Swastika as the mark of OUR people. The poonigger Indians have NOTHING to do with it. The Swastika is the symbol OUR people who spread it all over the world, wherever they went.

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Levi Edwards
Levi Edwards

yep

Sebastian Edwards
Sebastian Edwards

we have god arys in greece,mars in latin.god of war and metals,brother of zeus.kartikeya.

Ryan Myers
Ryan Myers

They're closely related for sure the r1b came into Europe before r1a did mostly. The highest concentration of r1a in the world is Poland. But mostly the r1b groups are associated with celtx groups that were inhabiting the European continent before the major migration of r1a. They're closely related. Pic is b y DNA

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Parker Sullivan
Parker Sullivan

We don't care? Bollywood pretty much exports only to Middle East, North Africa, Turkey and so on. Westerners aren't really close to us culturally speaking, China is fully Westernized though.

YEAH MY NORDIC KANG BROTHER. ALBERT "NORDIC CHAKRAVARTIN" RULED INDIA.

Cameron Richardson
Cameron Richardson

I see it, memeflaggot. I understand where You're going with it too, and agree. You're talking about remaining pockets of the ORIGINAL Aryans that would become modern Europeans.
Let's face it, that the Aryans were mutted Vril. And the mutting continues to happen with (((jews))) the most mutted race of them all, conditioning the public to do so.

Alexander Allen
Alexander Allen

You will always be a poo

Evan Rodriguez
Evan Rodriguez

But keltics are not really Indo-European they're closely related but not exactly. I want to add here that Ashkenazi Jews or one of the purest Aryan races according to genetics. The initial Ariens look similar to Ashkenazi Jews. They were light eyed strong cheekbones and have beards.

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Nathaniel Walker
Nathaniel Walker

HELL YEAH. KRISHNA WAS A NORDIC KANG.
If you disagree that Chandragupta Maurya was a blue eyed, blonde haired NORDIC KANG, you are deluded shitskin.

P O O

Joseph Cooper
Joseph Cooper

How does it feel when despite India having nearly the same population as China, Western companies and services rush to sell to the Chinese, and not the Indians because the Chinese can afford it.

How does it feel when China is essentially influencing every single Western market without directly trying to, while Indians influence nothing but Bollywood.

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Brody Brooks
Brody Brooks

Celtics are just IE with a tiny bit more of WHG (european hunter gatherer) blood.

Evan Reyes
Evan Reyes

Actually Hitler had e1b 1 ydna which is associated with North Africa and berbers perhaps why he hated slovaks and Jews so much because they were actually more white that he was

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Landon Foster
Landon Foster

Why is it that whenever the Aryan invasion is brought up poos deflect to Indian rulers that came up much later? The Indus river valley civilization wasn't made by poos, but white people. Get over it.

Asher Perry
Asher Perry

reminder to shitskins.

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Dominic Taylor
Dominic Taylor

They are closely related to r1a. R1b he's also came from the East and North. Spain is actually highly concentrated with r1b genetics. I think it has some r1a that probably came in during some. Of Spain. You can see Ireland is also loaded with r1b. I think genetics is believed that r1b came in through Phoenicians influx which happened before Rome. I could be wrong on that one though

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Connor Stewart
Connor Stewart

There's a lot of discussion about the origin of R1b in western europe. Some say it is related to Yamnaya through Bell Beakers (just yamnaya with a bit of extra whg), some others say it was a non Yamnaya population that expanded through Western Europe. I myself have no clue. It might be something that happened arround 2500 BC.

Christopher Cook
Christopher Cook

Because Indians are f****** retarded. It happened after Gandhi like all the worst segments of Indian Society decided that this culture was actually their own when in fact this culture was the ones that raped their earlier ancestors. It's quite obvious really if you look at the genetics y DNA shows which areas were dominated by which people. Mostly what happened in ancient times was armies would March into areas and they would rape all the women it was quite common. And they would kill all the men

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Levi Bailey
Levi Bailey

Who is we wuzzing?

Adrian Hill
Adrian Hill

based Nordic bros.

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Nicholas Williams
Nicholas Williams

Catholicism
Christianity
pick one

Hudson Reed
Hudson Reed

Damn you're asshurt... Seek therapy.

Adrian Scott
Adrian Scott

european hunter gatherer

Likely the I and J y dna groups

Those two groups were not very Advanced they didn't have literature or anything like that. But they had evolved some ways of living in the cold for instance which require some intelligence. They were not comfortable at all to the r groups that were highly advanced. They were like cave dwellers lived in simple Hots things like that hunted and gathered weren't practicing agriculture very simplistic kind of existence it's Up For Debate as to whether they resembled white people or not I would say mostly not really people on here seem fond of showing these really crude Hots and such found in Scandinavia in ancient times those were the i y DNA groups. The Vikings were civilized and advanced

Justin Gomez
Justin Gomez

They're from a place in between South Asia and Western Europe. Most probably Ukraine, considering the migration potential there.

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Grayson Cruz
Grayson Cruz

are you going to post the abo copypastas again lol

Zachary Phillips
Zachary Phillips

r1b are basically celts, they came from ukraine, those who stayed in ukraine were called scythians. but scythians were later replaced by sarmatians and cimmerians who weren't r1b but r1a.

it happened between early and late chalcolitic. with so many samples we are now pretty sure that r1b came from yamnaya through central europe and quickly expanded in western europe.

indo-european.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/9-chalcolithic-early-y-dna.pdf
indo-european.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/11-chalcolithic-late-y-dna.pdf

Zachary Lopez
Zachary Lopez

Also "R" (the haplo group) basically is a mongoloid Siberian haplogroup
that diversified in Siberian admixed middle easterners.
Modern europeans btw are a mixed race population of WHG, CHG, EEF, ANE, Natufian(pretty much proto-Bedouin), and Iran Neolithic and in some cases with small negroid(Italians. Portuguese, Spaniards) , Han Chinese/Mongolian-like admixture too(Russians, Finns. Moldovians, Ukrainians etc) and even australoid/ASI admixture(Greeks).
The only native european genetic component in WhG that ranges from 20-50% in modern european populations.

WHGs had originally black/dark brown skin but blue eyes and went extinct in a pure form like 8000 years ago.

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Luis Adams
Luis Adams

Iirc some of them were I1 or I2, not sure though. Off course J and E dudes were arround mostly trading by sea, I think.

Michael Morales
Michael Morales

Yeah, I mentioned this already, R comes from EEHG (close to East Asians) and CHG (close to modern Caucasus populations) intermixing.

Brody Perez
Brody Perez

Ignore that butthurt Indian, my brothers. He can seethe and try to make silly mockery of facts from down in the septic tank all day long but that won't change what is true.

Watch these videos about our past, about who we are and where we came from. These are our roots and a tree with strong roots can stand in the face of any tempest.
youtu.be/eOM2fT6tBFE
Watch all three parts. It is definitely worth it.

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Carson Perry
Carson Perry

It's common knowledge here now (after my discourse on the topic) , so my input on that particular subject isn't needed anymore fren.

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Kayden Edwards
Kayden Edwards

Yup.

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Nathan Rogers
Nathan Rogers

Mongoloids >>> Aryan bullshit

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Jason Rogers
Jason Rogers

god's work user

Carson Peterson
Carson Peterson

steps-caucasus,one line to mesopotamia(summerian civilisation),the other to europe through minor asia.they brought agriculture.dna tests are very specific and accurate,will contradict the best to the historical study.

Matthew Sanchez
Matthew Sanchez

stop shilling for China wearing an American flag. it just looks pathetic.

Henry Bailey
Henry Bailey

R1b and R1a can be seen as brothers to the R1 father.

Jace Parker
Jace Parker

Any designated haplo master here, how do you interpret the Bulgarian genetic makeup?

It's basically ~22% I2, ~19% E1b1b1a, ~18% R1a, ~11% R1b, ~10% J2

Easton Reyes
Easton Reyes

Theorically speaking it was the CHG Caucasus inhabitants or Anatolian ones that brought agriculture to Europe previous to the Indo European migration.

David Collins
David Collins

before of 2500,about 4000.in 3000-2500 we have the entering of r1a,if i remember well.

Dominic James
Dominic James

what was the method to cluster those groups as European?

distance from germans? not including Chuvash and jews? this red line looks very arbitrary to me.

Thomas Barnes
Thomas Barnes

Hey poo poo, how are u poo poo?

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Ryder Hughes
Ryder Hughes

Already mentioned above with the comments about the chuvash yeah initially whites and Asians came from the same Source genetic Group which originated in Western Russia. Is this surprising given that whites and Asians share a lot of traits? The overall story is that it started all somewhere around Northeastern Africa and at some point a group branched off and moved into the area around the Fertile Crescent. from there they kind of developed the basics of culture. The basic elements of religion and food production that sort of stuff. Then another group branched off again and went North for some reason might be due to the weather out of my really sure. There they loads for thousands of years and they became like super humans the very intelligent and they had very complex forms of culture especially writing and dairy production and a couple of other things. From there they serve dominated the entire world because they were just better at everything. Yeah that's the story of mankind. Blonde hair is by no means a marker of advanced culture

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Asher Jones
Asher Jones

Haplogroups are from the Y chromosome. mtDNA is more important for the most part and tells you more information.

Caleb Powell
Caleb Powell

I agree.

Angel Jones
Angel Jones

When the Han finally takes over your land, you'll be the first to go to the camps, pajeet. Along with your Muslim friends.

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Anthony Collins
Anthony Collins

yes,these anatolian where r1b.now it has changed.it is fluid.the worshipers of kybeli for example in anatolia called galloi.

Isaac Hill
Isaac Hill

Have I identified the Indian cluster here? Your background in that PCA seems very foggy and it just says "SC Asia" so I'm guessing that's South and Central Asia.

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Thomas Gonzalez
Thomas Gonzalez

archaeologists make massive dna tests on bones,new clues are entering rapidly,it is like a revolution for history-archaeology.

Parker Jones
Parker Jones

true it branched off somewhere around the Ukraine

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Grayson White
Grayson White

The thing is, I believe that previously to the arrival of R1 haplos to the zone, there was an expassion of E and J haplogroups from the midle east invading southern europe entering from anatolia and bringing farming with them

Landon Lewis
Landon Lewis

e1b1b is levantine, j2 is caucasian, r1a and r1b are indoeuropean, and i2 is a mistery haplogroup

Isaiah Bailey
Isaiah Bailey

India=shithole

James Gomez
James Gomez

I know, it's fascinating, still so many questions unanswered, but they will be revealed with new samples progressingly.

Nathaniel Green
Nathaniel Green

Femanon pls go

Jose Moore
Jose Moore

Sardiniansare not white because I arbitrarily circled things with this red marker
The Basque are not white because I arbitrarily circled things with this red marker
The Greeks are not white because I arbitrarily circled things with this red marker
I swear, every day I stay on this board, my faith in the far right weakens more and more. Real doomed hours.

Mason Martinez
Mason Martinez

Modern Europeans and some Indian ethnicities share a common ancestor. If you look at Indians, most of them have white features, but they re-evolved to have black skin. In fact, there's evidence to suggest that all non-monkey peoples (Asians, Indians, Europeans) stemmed from a single group of white skinned ancestors, aka poly genesis.

This would explain why the above races were able to accomplish so much throughout history, while the monkey peoples did not progress to agriculture, the wheel, or even simple animal husbandry. Completely different ancestors that have merely convergently evolved to look similar. If I had to bet, i would even say that there are some groups of monkeys (bushmen, pygmies, forest africans) that might not be able to reproduce with non-monkeys.

As an aside, has anyone ever done cross breeding experiments with Abos? I would be shocked if they were able to have fertile offspring with a Scandinavian.

Not sure how americans fit into this, as they had super advanced civs, yet a few of their groups were total chimps like the Aztecs and the thousands of numerous violent tribes who were animalistic to the point of being completely exterminated.

Gabriel Young
Gabriel Young

The Indians initially emerged from the a white group from the north who evolved the practice of eating poop. After many generations of eating poop their skin color changed and their culture changed around the practice of eating poop. The Indians barely even remember their pre-poop era and their true Origins.

Ryder Morgan
Ryder Morgan

YouTube videos are now sources
Fucking kek, show your flag pajeet.

John Perry
John Perry

I would be shocked if they were able to have fertile offspring with a Scandinavian.
They can and why would you be, Scandinavians were living a similar life to abos less than 1 thousand years ago.

James Robinson
James Robinson

You can choose to include those groups into your definition of White if you like, retard. But besides those 6-7 groups, the European race is a very real concept.

The reason they're not included is because besides FST distances,they actually are very distinct from Europeans due to other genetic factors and even ideology/ behavior. The White race is still genetically sound concept and a few exceptions in the genetic cluster doesn't disprove it.
T. Paki/Poojeet
T. Shitskin invader in Canada

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Wyatt Cook
Wyatt Cook

Oh and Greeks are marked as White, but Greek#2 are the populations with high Semitic/SSA admixture.

Hunter Butler
Hunter Butler

If your definition of "white" comes in any way from extrapolation of characteristic of nordics contrasted with browner southern Europeans,
then Sardinians contain literally zero "white" DNA.
If you want to define "white" differently to where it includes Sardinians that's up to you, but if you do so, then that basically means Sardianians have to be the purest example of white people, because Sardinians are an extremely old and unmixed people.

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