I FINISHED MY LAW DEGREE ASK ME FUCKING ANYTHING

Brayden Morgan
Brayden Morgan

Riots in Hong Kong, blah blah blah. I don't actually know anything about this, but HK is a common law system, and I just did a three year degree in law (UK) so feel free to ask me anything.

To stay on topic, herewith news link (this is all going to go horribly wrong fyi; HK is just a meme). hongkongfp.com/2019/06/12/not-try-break-law-hong-kongs-no-2-official-urges-protesters-stop-occupying-roads-leave/

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youtube.com/watch?v=w-SPcsfz0_E
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legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2015/15/section/52/enacted.
legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2015/15/section/54/enacted
harlow-college.ac.uk/study-options/access-courses/item/access-to-higher-education-diploma-medicine.
imperial.ac.uk/study/ug/courses/school-of-medicine/medicine/#entry-requirements
bma.org.uk/advice/career/studying-medicine/becoming-a-doctor/graduate-and-foundation-students
candi.ac.uk/courses/medicine-medical-bio-sciences-access-higher-education-diploma
criminaldefenselawyer.com/criminal-case-statute-of-limitations/KS-felonies-misdemeanors.htm
kslegislature.org/li_2012/b2011_12/statute/008_000_0000_chapter/008_015_0000_article/008_015_0067_section/008_015_0067_k/).
kansas-dui.com/blog/how-long-dui-on-criminal-record/

Henry Hill
Henry Hill

Given the state of the UK today, HK is obviously a billion times better under Chinese rule. Just thank Buddha and bend the knee to your Maoist overlords.

Grayson Kelly
Grayson Kelly

how old are you?

Ryder Powell
Ryder Powell

How much do you wish we could just go back to pistols at dawn since the legal system will never be capable of representing everyone due to the costs involved and really only rich people get access to legal rights?

Isaac Gray
Isaac Gray

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Why pistols at dawn? We should just go back to battle as a mode of trial. One of my subjects this year was legal history and you'd think it would be the easiest, but it's the hardest I did through all three years. Anyway, yeah, you guys would have liked battle. Pretty based.

Cooper Hughes
Cooper Hughes

Common law systems don't work for dictatorships. Common law built America; gave you your constitution, too.

Easton Green
Easton Green

Oh, and coming back to this - actually, that's right. The common law was basically developed primarily from property law rights, and you needed to pay to get your case into the royal courts (Common Pleas and Kings Bench). Thus it ever was.

Kevin Diaz
Kevin Diaz

What's your next move job/life wise?

Good earning potential, would you recommend as a course for someone late 20s/early 30s who has little opportunity?

Henry Morales
Henry Morales

why are you on Jow Forums? shouldn't you be out snorting coke and fucking hot blondes?

Dylan Diaz
Dylan Diaz

Is homosexuality a mental disease?
I mean it functionally impedes with reproduction and anything doing that is a disease from warts to disturbed periods.

Caleb Reed
Caleb Reed

How do you feel about the legal system inherently being a pay2win system? Is it just that only money begets legal rights?

William Hall
William Hall

If a person agrees to take on a piece of work, is there an onus for said work to be completed in reasonable time?

Logan Bell
Logan Bell

I haven't decided on whether to go the solicitor or barrister route. I've given myself to the end of summer to decide.

Also, yes 100%. I did really badly at school. About 2007 I found my way to Jow Forums due to chanology shit. At the time, you still got a lot of decent threads on /b/. One of them one day - this thread changed my life - was on logical fallacies. I'd never heard of this but a lot clicked for me (I'd be angry before when discussing things IRL but couldn't articulate why). Anyway, landed up shitposting for about 2 years, got good at debate, learned skills, did a course at the Open University, got distinction. Did another one, another distinction. I had always wanted to go university but thought I was too dumb so this was big news for me. Wanted to do religious studies initially but no problem-solving. My dad always wanted me to do law but again I thought I was too stupid. So asked around and they told me I needed to go back school to get my A levels. So did that at an adult education college, got 45/45 distinctions (3 starred As), then applied to SOAS but the college told me 3 more so FOR A LAUGH, I included Oxford, Cambridge, UCL, LSE. Got offers for all. Went to Cambridge for interview, got into Cambridge.

All because of Jow Forums.

So yeah, it is NEVER too late. They get a fucking hard on for stories like mine, too. First one in my family, poor background, grafted to get in, much older. It's not too late. Do it.

Xavier Moore
Xavier Moore

I don't want to be that kind of lawyer. I'm mainly interested in property and trusts because of things like proprietary estoppel. Also, my favourite subject is unjust enrichment. So, I just want to do that kind of stuff.

Connor Peterson
Connor Peterson

ASK ME FUCKING ANYTHING
Ok.
GFY!

Easton Rodriguez
Easton Rodriguez

Honestly I know there's a lot of shitposting around here but I'm not trolling when I say this is the first time I've felt anything close to hope in about 6 months. Because I've been finding it hard to see past the alternative of hanging myself or working shitty warehouse/retail/hospitality well into my 30s.

Hunter Bennett
Hunter Bennett

No, you have discreet legal rights. That's pretty obvious from things like tort law, and so on. It's just that you've always had to pay to get a case heard. That's not a new thing - it literally built the common law. On the one hand, you can say that's bad, but on the other, what's the solution? Judges shouldn't have primary responsibility for making law - that's for legislatures, and one of the great things about the common law is because it requires you to pay, it runs behind you as it were - unlike the retarded civilian systems which run ahead of you, constantly micro-managing your life.

Depends on what the case is. Solicitors are pretty heavily regulated, though. They can't just rack up hours. Everything has to be accounted for, etc.

Ethan Green
Ethan Green

how do i get my laptop back

solemn procedure
no trial diet
time limit is exceeded

they tell me they reserve the right to proscecute me at any time even though thats not what the law actually says

Dominic Morris
Dominic Morris

ASK ME ANYTHING
I don't actually know anything

fuck off reddit faggot, we dont do AMA homosex here AND u self admit u dont know nuttin, so i repeat, fuck off. thanks.

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Oliver Gomez
Oliver Gomez

OK, specifically, for a vehicle M.O.T to be carried out by a garage. It's illegal to have a vehicle on the road without one, so once the garage takes the vehicle in, it cannot be released until the work is done. What if they take an unreasonable amount of time to complete it?

Alexander Jones
Alexander Jones

On the one hand, you can say that's bad, but on the other, what's the solution?
Pistols at dawn or any other form of duel, physical or otherwise. Far more equal than money.

Jeremiah Martinez
Jeremiah Martinez

Ok, I understand. I was the same. Going nowhere, being nothing. Like I say, I did fucking BAD at school. I mean, I had to go back to school. A shitty adult education college full of drug dealers, and basically kids with personality disorders. But I turned up for every lecture, did every paper, and honesty it wasn't even that hard. And like I say, they creamed their pants with my application. If you apply to anything other than Cambridge, you have to do the LNAT. You can't prep for this thing but I got 36 out of 42 (nobody has ever scored 42). Average for Cambridge my year was 26. So, at 26 they were taking, and I got 36. And all because of Jow Forums. No jokes. This is my story. And I'm a predicted 2:1 with two firsts (unjust enrichment, and commercial law) and I've already been hit up my magic circle firms (they pay trainee starts on about £70,000 - that's just to show up in the office two days a week while you're qualifying).

If you're on Jow Forums, in my experience, you're already smarter than most. If you're here, and you feel frustrated, pissed off, and you hate the sheer mundanity and predictabilty of this boring fucking life, chances are your brain is crying out for attention. I've never been happier than these past 3 years. Gruelling ALL THE TIME, relentless workloads (you will get an average 20 cases per lecture + 5 academic articles [about 20+ pages each] + about 8 pages preppred work notes you have to do beforehand, tutorials, more lectures, formatives - you'll be crushingly exhausted but through it all, you won't get one dark thought in your head. I haven't had one for four years. Brain's never been happier.

Do it, man.

Kayden Rivera
Kayden Rivera

I actually linked a news article. You're free to discuss that, or you can leave, ta.

Wyatt Cooper
Wyatt Cooper

I don't understand this post. If someone has your laptop and won't return it, you have two causes of action on your facts - it's either theft, or it's the tort of conversion.

Hunter Garcia
Hunter Garcia

or you can leave, ta.

reddit fag confirmed

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Nolan Butler
Nolan Butler

Well, you'll be in a contract with them. What do the contract terms say? I can't really answer this question without more specifics. There's no specific doctrine related to 'unreasonable time' as far as I know, but it'll likely be somewhere in something like the Consumer Rights Act. Need more information.

Chase Mitchell
Chase Mitchell

Any recommended starting points for self learning? You mentioned improving your logical reasoning and learning about logical fallacies on here, perhaps you found some other online resources for this?

I'm looking at applying to uni, I do have A levels (albeit not amazing ones) and would prefer not to redo them, I'm thinking a good application and interview could get me into a mid-tier uni. From what you can tell so far, would the opportunities still be decent for a graduate of, say, a 10-20 league table position institute?

The advice is highly appreciated.

Joshua Nguyen
Joshua Nguyen

the police took it as evidence,

then proceeded to not do anything with the case,

then because it was a jury trial the time limit was exceeded meaning they can't actually pursue it any longer,

but they tell me on the phone they reserve the right to proscecute me and kept all my computers etc.

The cost of a lawyer is probably going to be more than the value of my computer, but the shit was brand new and I'm convinced they just took advantage of the situation and stole it from evidence and don't want to reveal this to me.

Andrew Wilson
Andrew Wilson

No contract, just a verbal agreement. The guy took more than 6 months to do the work. I spoke to a few solicitors who literally just said 'no', it's almost as if they only care about money rather than actual justice.....

Bentley Scott
Bentley Scott

Australian lawyer here. Ask me anything and I'll tell you why OP is a faggot.

Owen Lee
Owen Lee

No, that doesn't seem right. Solicitors are shit because they want money but I do this kind of stuff as favours all the time. All you need to do is send a letter outlining a law, and they shit their pants and give you back your money.

Did you pay him? How much?

Ethan Baker
Ethan Baker

why is OP a faggot?

Nathan Myers
Nathan Myers

That's the thing, no money upfront, but like I said, they couldn't release the vehicle until it was done, so went without one for 6 months. Anyway, thanks for listening to my rant I'll stop now.

Ethan Hall
Ethan Hall

Common Law? We have not had Common Law since 1707. It doesn't exist anywhere on Earth now. HK like the UK, is under Admiralty Law.

Liam Parker
Liam Parker

i literally saw a vid on crimebodge where a women didn't pay her bill and then called the police on the garage saying he stole it and they came and took it off the garage and told them to sue her civilly

Daniel Taylor
Daniel Taylor

Because he has sexual relations with other men. He eats the poo poo.

And he is absolutely fucking larping.

Joseph Mitchell
Joseph Mitchell

is a law degree actually affordable in the UK? here for even a shit tier state school you still pay 6 figures

Lucas Flores
Lucas Flores

Fuck off with your sovereign citizen nonsense faggot.

Noah Perez
Noah Perez

Why are you so fucking retarded? Im in third year doing nuclear in a country with 33% of the worlds uranium.

Alexander Sullivan
Alexander Sullivan

There was an AI program tested a few months ago. About 20 Lawyers were given a case study, and told to reach a legal conclusion. The fastest guy did it is 90 minutes. The AI software did it under 210 seconds.
AI will finish the entire legal scam, I mean profession.

Wyatt Perry
Wyatt Perry

whens the bar exam donkey?

Zachary Cook
Zachary Cook

Nah, not really. I basically just did the OU stuff first. I mean, I thought I would struggle but not at all (first paper I did was Dr Faustus - blew my mind). I would say if you're good at arguing, and you're naturally curious, you shouldn't have any problems.

One thing I did though that helped was volunteered in a community law centre for about 8 months. That helped massively with the application as they want to see actual interest. You'll have one locally so I STRONGLY suggest calling them up, saying you want to study law, and you would like to volunteer with them. They put me in reception which sounds bollocks but I got huge insight into the housing and benefits problems people have (especially in relation to legal aid), so I could include that on my application. One thing I mentioned was a nurse who called up one day who was being routinely attacked by her mother who has dementia. That was a big problem because there's no law to stop that so what do you do about this? Is it right she just has to risk being attacked? Or is she entitled to legal protection? And if so, under what rules? Criminal, private, public? Anyway, I mentioned this in my application, and when I went to the interview at Cambridge, they asked me about this specifically - guy said it was very impressive and they usually get rich kids coming in with blah blah stories about what they think about the law, but very rarely do they talk about how the law fails.

Anyway, to cut a long story short, if you have A levels now, then you need to a) volunteer (I strongly recommend this - the law firms like it, too), and b) you need to sit the LNAT. I did mine through my college so I don't know what the process is if you already have A levels, but that thing sealed the deal with me for Oxford and UCL. Cambridge has a separate exam, but if you want to get into one of the big ones, you need the LNAT. No way to prep for it, but apparently the one common factor is early readers tend to do better.

Lucas Gomez
Lucas Gomez

It is a fact that England and Scotland were taken over by the Glorious Revolution; Britain - a corporation - was created in 1707, and it is a shipping/ merchant empire. Granted it is extremely difficult to do sovereign citizen shit as Freemasons will break their own laws, as they are simply a mafia working for the Queen, but people like Canadian Dean Clifford, have managed to do it.
youtube.com/watch?v=w-SPcsfz0_E

Mason King
Mason King

Oh, and don't aim low, just aim high. Don't aim for subpar universities if you know you can get into the better ones with a bit more work.

Charles King
Charles King

Uh, if the police took your computer for a jury trial, and are reserving the right to prosecute you in the future, you need to speak to a criminal lawyer, man.

Nathaniel Rogers
Nathaniel Rogers

Australian lawyer here. Ask me anything and I'll tell you why OP is a faggot.
why is OP a faggot?
Because he has sexual relations with other men. He eats the poo poo.
And he is absolutely fucking larping.

IDK, he also rambling about his "cambridge law degree" in a thread about kim kardashian running for president:

jowforums.com/thread/216270951/politics
As someone who has just completed a law degree at fucking Cambridge, you can only imagine how in orbit my sides still are. My favourite part EVER were photographs of her 'notes' for her 'tort' 'exams'. I'd find copies but I'm afraid I'm already on the floor in hysterics just remembering them.

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Easton Gutierrez
Easton Gutierrez

Just do Open University or distance learning, it is a fraction of the price.

Jordan Reed
Jordan Reed

just did a 3 year law degree
ask me anything
Why? You don't know shit yet. You're like the fucks that come in from basic with their chest puffed out until reality slaps them in the face. Make this thread again in a few years when you matter.

Hunter Morgan
Hunter Morgan

common law
Blackstone would cry if he saw the shit that passes for a legal system you have today.

Zachary Myers
Zachary Myers

Any recommended starting points for self learning?
Nah, not really.
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GIANT WALL OF TEXT

get a load of this faggot lol

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Asher Reed
Asher Reed

When was this? You should have kept all your travel receipts, etc., and made them pay for the costs you went to for not having a car for that period - that you can probably claim back. Verbal agreements are still binding contracts; it's just harder to establish the terms. Certainly, though, applying the usual reasonableness tests, 6 months is a fucking joke.

Nathaniel Mitchell
Nathaniel Mitchell

Sure we do. I literally don't even know what you're trying to say. Common law means incrementally developed-by-judges law. I have no idea what your definition is.

Dylan Hill
Dylan Hill

The OU were brilliant. But their price increases are a piss take.

Isaac Hall
Isaac Hall

You can just hit them up for the tort of conversion. Send them a letter saying if they don't return the vehicle within 14 days, you will seek a delivery up order from the High Court, and will include seeking damages and all costs.

They'll get it back to you fast, believe me.

Charles Rivera
Charles Rivera

Student loan. £9 grand a year. I saved hard for three years though, and I got first year accommodation free. Rest I had to pay for but it's manageable and you can find cheap accommodation in most university towns.

Jaxson Brooks
Jaxson Brooks

What type of corporate entity is Britain?

Zachary Campbell
Zachary Campbell

I'm not good at maths stuff, but I envy you anyway. Congratulations on having that kind of brain.

Brayden Allen
Brayden Allen

England and Scotland don't even have the same laws.
Nigger.

Gabriel Powell
Gabriel Powell

Yeah he's full of shit.

Zachary Torres
Zachary Torres

Yeah, I loved them. Never followed the coursework, though.

Jeremiah Allen
Jeremiah Allen

If you were such a great lawyer as you make yourself out to be you would have instantly known this guy is a sovereign citizen.

Shut the fuck up, faggot.

Isaac Smith
Isaac Smith

I'm currently considering doing a health sciences degree (through open uni)then using it to apply for medicine. I'm 27, it's good to hear there might still be hope for me.

Blake Campbell
Blake Campbell

I would have gone on and done a second even third degree.
But a 600 pound course now costs 2500. But you don´t actually get anything new or extra for the money. Fuck that.

Levi Flores
Levi Flores

Yup, as I thought, it is in the CRA. S52 - legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2015/15/section/52/enacted. You also have a right to a price reduction - legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2015/15/section/54/enacted

Adam Peterson
Adam Peterson

not codifying your laws
Why not do what every US state can?

Parker Perez
Parker Perez

Yeah, you'd be amazed. I know it sounds corny, but they apparently REALLY do like if you're older, and have done other stuff. A lot of the kids that come through are pretty privileged if you think about it (can afford the degree, come from good private schools), and these universities have diversity policies as well so actually if you're older, and the more you work towards that goal of getting in, the higher your chances. Definitely true for me, anyway.

Benjamin Gonzalez
Benjamin Gonzalez

US is a common law system. We also have primary law coming from legislatures (codification), but it's still applied, interpreted, and modified by judges.

Jason Kelly
Jason Kelly

I actually posted on/adv/ about this, your post seems to have swayed me. This is the thread

//boards.4channel.org/adv/thread/21009505#p21009505

Having fees more or less covered is seriously making me think why the fuck not

Cooper Moore
Cooper Moore

What are your A levels like? Would you be prepared to go back to school for a year? With your experience, I'm absolutely positive they'd be interested in having you. Anywhere, I suppose but somewhere like Imperial is what you should aim for.

Ayden Sanders
Ayden Sanders

I've got BBCC
They generally go for AAAA but what can you do. At least if I managed to get a 2:1 with open uni they'd be happy with that.

Christian Davis
Christian Davis

Ok, so just looking online, if you try somewhere like Imperial, they want 3 A levels (Maths, Biology, then a third subject).

According to the BMA, you can apply as a mature student through access to medicine programmes, so if I were you, I'd do similar to me and instead of doing a few years at the OU, just do a year at an adult education college specifically looking for 'access to medicine' courses (I did one that was called 'Access to law' at City and Islington).

Not sure where you are in the UK, but here's one I found with a quick google search: harlow-college.ac.uk/study-options/access-courses/item/access-to-higher-education-diploma-medicine. You'll definitely be able to find something like this, and I think it's the better route.

Imperial info here: imperial.ac.uk/study/ug/courses/school-of-medicine/medicine/#entry-requirements

BMA info here: bma.org.uk/advice/career/studying-medicine/becoming-a-doctor/graduate-and-foundation-students

I'm living proof this route is not only possible, but entirely achievable. So yes, you shoud do it. That kind of experience will be invaluable on an application too, in my view. Remember: I got into my degree with basically 8 months of volunteering in a legal advice centre; you've got ACTUAL medical, workable, experience.

Jacob Ross
Jacob Ross

I wouldn't do OU. You can get the marks in a year. Two years if you do it part time. I would SERIOUSLY consider this.

Logan Jenkins
Logan Jenkins

Ok, so City & Islington does one, too. Note, this by the way. If you go onto do a degree, the cost for ALL THIS COURSE is written off. Again: these are all perks designed SPECIFICALLY to get people like you and me into higher education.

candi.ac.uk/courses/medicine-medical-bio-sciences-access-higher-education-diploma

Carter Sanchez
Carter Sanchez

The other advantage of going this route, by the way, is the college writes a letter of recommendation for you which is HUGE for the application. Like for mine, they basically gave all my marks, my attendance record, plus the fact I was engaged in classes, etc. I slag this college off, but every single top tier uni I applied to took that recommendation seriously, and I still think it counted for about a third of the reason I got in.

Gabriel White
Gabriel White

I'd absolutely love to do this but I'd need to do distance learning due to military commitments. The way it would work is I'd be a Combat Medic until I start a medical degree, then I'd be a future MO (medical officer). They wouldn't release me to study until I'm classed as a future professionally qualified officer.

David Ramirez
David Ramirez

Oh, ok, wait - so the army will pay for the degree? How long are you tied to them for? How long is the OU course?

Adam Martin
Adam Martin

I'm currently a Lance Corporal, making about £30k a year. Applying to the OU through the military, they'll cover 80% of the cost. If I was accepted to study medicine they'd pay for the course in return for a few years of service.
Huge benefit to this is the army cannot lower your pay, so I'd be getting about £30k a year to study, they also provide housing.
OU degree would be 3 years full time.

Ayden Cook
Ayden Cook

a three year degree in law (UK)

what a fucking joke

Evan Brooks
Evan Brooks

Sorry, I just read your other thread properly. Do you need to do Health Sciences, though? Can you not do a specifically targeted course? One thing I did was call up SOAS (they were my first choice back then) and they were the ones who told me about the access to law courses. I had no idea and was going to do another couple of years at the OU to get a degree. Why don't you just call up a uni you want to go to and ask them what they would require? I just feel it's a long time doing something that isn't specifically targeted.

William Morgan
William Morgan

But it is an actually proper legal system, unlike your civilian 'law' bollocks.

Landon Perez
Landon Perez

It's just my inability to do a full time course holding me back but the army will not budge because I'm in a highly deployable unit. I'd need to find either night classes or distance learning, I'm having a look just now.
OU would at least give me a degree if I wasn't up to par for medicine.

Cooper Butler
Cooper Butler

Did the act of 1871 make the United states of America a corporation?

Dylan Bennett
Dylan Bennett

I've just found a learndirect course which is access and distance, I'm going to enquire about it. Expensive but if the army foot the bill I'll be in good stead.

Adam Brown
Adam Brown

What were your A level marks for? From what I could make out from the C&I course, they want B grades for maths and science (at least one). I guess this is really anecdotal but I always felt very frustrated with my life. Like something was missing. I could do my job (I used to work as a graphic designer) but something was just wrong. When I started my degree, I remember first year coming back from a public law lecture and my mind was on cloud nine. So, I suppose what I'm trying to say is if you feel inclined towards doing something then you probably can do it - I wouldn't settle on fallbacks, basically. You're already keen, you already have the instinct for it, and the access course can still get you into something else like, I dunno, nursing or being a paramedic down the line or whatever.

Henry Foster
Henry Foster

Ok, awesome. I would DEFINITELY try call your preferred university, too. You'd be amazed at how helpful they'll be. The guy at SOAS couldn't have been more encouraging and cool about it.

Mason Watson
Mason Watson

The other thing I'll say about the OU, too, is it's sort of designed for slower people. No shade on them at all, but my sense is you probably don't need to drag it out that much.

Thomas Long
Thomas Long

Are you at Oxford? They just finished today

Matthew Adams
Matthew Adams

How long do (((they))) have to serve me a summons on a DUI in my driveway?

Sebastian Nelson
Sebastian Nelson

Thanks for the advice mate, massively appreciated. I'm going to speak to my boss (doctor who left school with nothing) on Monday and see what he can advise.

Isaiah Nguyen
Isaiah Nguyen

No problem at all, my man. Very happy to have helped any way I could. Godspeed, and just do it; you will never regret it.

Owen Rogers
Owen Rogers

Also I gave a blood sample, refused the field sobriety test in the potholed driveway, they never read me my rights, never searched my car, and that was 2 months ago, went to court when my bondsman said but they didnt have a case on me yet

Zachary Allen
Zachary Allen

unlike your civilian 'law' bollocks

at least we have a properly written legal system unlike your word of mouth shit

Christian Evans
Christian Evans

This post made me laugh. I dunno, man. My instinct is they can't do shit if you're driving drunk on your own land, but a quick search on Jewgle has, sadly, confirmed for me this is not the case. Depending where you are, there's probably a statutory limit on how long they have to serve a summons. In the UK, it's 6 months from date of infraction. They also have X amount of time to get driver confirmation details, too, so that'll likely be true where you are as well.

Thanks for indulging my thread Jow Forums.

Jeremiah Foster
Jeremiah Foster

Wait, what? So you were already served a summons? How did they know you were even driving, and not just sitting pissed in the car?

Kevin Myers
Kevin Myers

Haha. No, you don't. Roman systems are literal shit-tier. No wonder you people struggle so much with basic ideas like 'democracy' and 'rights' - all gifted by the common law, all anathema to your babby-tier shit 'legal' systems. Thank fuck we're leaving the EU.

Jaxon Walker
Jaxon Walker

They flipped on their lights a 1/2 block from my house, so I made him follow me into my driveway

Bentley Cox
Bentley Cox

Oh, so they saw you driving? Well, bang goes that idea then. I don't even know where you live that you can be summonsed for making it safely to your own house and then getting busted for a DUI on your own damn property. I suppose it's somewhere like Maine or Fagifornia.

David Hall
David Hall

Kansas

Logan Gonzalez
Logan Gonzalez

How easy it to become a patent lawyer? I heard they make good cash and itd be pretty interesting.

Dominic Gray
Dominic Gray

Well, shit. Just looking at it now, and from what I can make out, congratulations, you must live in one of the most retarded places on earth. Every conviction is a jailable offence? Seriously? Anyway, when you went to court, what did the court say?

Austin Scott
Austin Scott

You still need to do the degree overall. I actually did intellectual property law this year, but I skipped over patents altogether, and just focused on copyright and trademarks. Patent law is supposed to be good. though, yeah. My favourite judge, Lord Hoffmann, did a lot of work in that area which kind of surprised me. He loved it apparently so it must be pretty good.

Other than that, you just have to do the degree overall. You can't spot for subjects, sadly.

Noah Murphy
Noah Murphy

"Wait for a summons"

John Price
John Price

I'm struggling to understand this. USUALLY, in less retarded common law systems, a 'summons' is what you need to GO TO court to begin with. So, how they fuck did you get to go to court without any official notification? How long ago was this incident?

Connor Fisher
Connor Fisher

What does your professors cock taste like?

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Evan Barnes
Evan Barnes

Like 2 months ago, got bailed out, bail papers had a court date and time....went there, no court till later that day, went thete and I was not on the docket, judge just told me to wait till I recived a summons.....maybe they I passed the BAC, maybe they fucked up somewhere? It was the newest fucktard an the force, I live in a very small town btw, around 2500 people

Ayden Russell
Ayden Russell

Funny my ID is aa

Robert Cox
Robert Cox

Just looking at it now. All I have to say is this - your police have too much power. They can literally claim any 'probable cause', and there's nothing to stop them. I'm also looking at the various state laws on this, and there appears to be no limitation period. As I mentioned, in the UK, they have six months and if they miss it, they miss it, it's over. Do you know what the alcohol content was? Is this your first offense?

Seems to me you'll probably just have to wait, but like I say, I find this deeply problematic for a whole host of reasons.

Nathaniel Carter
Nathaniel Carter

Also, why did the police follow you? Were you driving erratically, run any lights or something?

Ethan Wright
Ethan Wright

No, they haven't gave any evidence yet. I haven't even had a first apperance in court yet. And if convicted it will be my second DUI and ive been busted with weed a few times, but my 1st DUI was around 7 or 8 years ago

Colton Morris
Colton Morris

He said I was swerving a little bit, our roads are shit

Adam Powell
Adam Powell

Well, limitations looks like 5 years. This shit is insane. criminaldefenselawyer.com/criminal-case-statute-of-limitations/KS-felonies-misdemeanors.htm

Also, if it's a second offense, court's likely to give you a custodial sentence. 5 days it looks like at minimum (kslegislature.org/li_2012/b2011_12/statute/008_000_0000_chapter/008_015_0000_article/008_015_0067_section/008_015_0067_k/).

Did you get a lawyer for this? I'm also very unclear why the police can "just say" that you were "swerving" and that's grounds to seek blood from you. Who the fuck runs your state, the Grand Council of Gilead? You should move.

Benjamin Lee
Benjamin Lee

Dash cams

Evan Lewis
Evan Lewis

can we kill more niggers please?

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Henry Garcia
Henry Garcia

is it a licence to steal ? can you just jew your way out of punishment for crimes you did commit ?

Robert Morales
Robert Morales

Well, applying the usual burdens of proof, a dashcam footage is not conclusive you being a) drunk, or b) driving drunk, but I realise Kansas is some kind of legal anomaly.

Did they give you the results of the blood test?

Also, looks like you can have the previous conviction expunged after 5 years which is something at least. Maybe the judge will be nice to you. If I were you, I'd sign up for an alcohol awareness course now, so you can at least say to the court you're taking it seriously.

kansas-dui.com/blog/how-long-dui-on-criminal-record/

Austin Jackson
Austin Jackson

What can be done about the Duluth model of enforcement? I know my ex-girlfriend is too poor to afford a good lawyer and I know that public lawyers are only allowed to represent one side. Will I be "coerced" into taking a private lawyer simply because she is a woman?

Luke Thomas
Luke Thomas

Did you get fat from stress eating?

Wyatt Collins
Wyatt Collins

law degree
So you learned to read lmao.

Come back when you have a STEM degree.

Nathan Young
Nathan Young

Ok, so looking into it a little more, looks like there's a ten year window to 'look back', but there seems to be some kind of penalty schedule judges apply.

If I were you, I would:

a) Try find out if the blood alcohol met the limits for the statute (0.8),
b) GET A LAWYER ANYWAY (your judges have MASSIVE sentencing discretion, and you're a second offender as it is)
c) Go do things like sign up for alcohol awareness now, anyway and other kinds of community service. From what I can make out, your judges seem to be swayed by shit like that. Also, anything else pertinent - you suffer from depression, were tired, stressed, having money problems, whatever: all of that is relevant, BUT GET A LAWYER.

Brayden Price
Brayden Price

I did, actually. Destroyed my back, too.

And you get back to me when you have lectures EVERY day and prior to each lecture, you have, on average 20 cases (no less than 20 pages, sometimes up to 200), 5 academic articles minimum (nothing under 25 pages, on average about 50), and two to three chapters from various text books (roughly 50 to 100 pages depending). And that's just BEFORE the lecture. That's not counting AFTER the lecture when you get notes that introduce another 20 odd cases, plus you then get to PREP for a tutorial EVERY EVENING before rinse and fucking repeat the next day.

Please. Fucking spanner monkey. You'd be dead in a week.

Easton White
Easton White

Thanks for the input user

Jackson Gonzalez
Jackson Gonzalez

I did, actually. Destroyed my back, too.

Seems to be the case with virtually everyone who goes to law school. Almost makes me afraid to even consider it.

Owen Gray
Owen Gray

You really don't seem like a hot shot Cambridge law graduate.

Have you got a current practising certificate? If not, shut your fucking mouth. You shouldn't claim to be a legal practitioner, or give legal advice. These are offences and are bars to admission. Odds are you're doing this in real life and not just on Jow Forums.

You would know this if you were a real law graduate; let alone from fucking Cambridge. But like I said earlier, you're just a faggot larper.

Bentley Sanchez
Bentley Sanchez

Yeah, it's fucked. I'm going to have to spend the summer rehabilitating it.

No probs, man. Hope it goes well for you - get a lawyer, and please, just get out of Kansas. If those are your 'laws', it's not a good place to be. Too unreasonable.

Camden Williams
Camden Williams

You don't get a 'practising certificate' until you've undertaken either a training contract, or pupillage, rekt-fag. If you were an actual lawyer, you would, of course, now this. Stay mad.

Henry Sanchez
Henry Sanchez

Should someone who can't handle stress well go to law school?

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John Rodriguez
John Rodriguez

You're not admitted. You're not a lawyer. So shut your whore mouth.

Jaxson Green
Jaxson Green

You’re that old faggot who posted a couple years back

Adam Wright
Adam Wright

So, again: in the UK, you get a degree (known as an 'LLB'). THEN you get either a training contract (if you want to be a solicitor), or a pupillage (if you want to be a barrister). Both of those, after two years of FURTHER STUDY, give you what's known as either a LPC, or a BPC. You don't get those when you get the degree, dummy. They take another two years AFTER the degree. The same is likely true in Ausfalia, too (even though it's a shit-tier jurisdiction).

The more you know, but gj embarrassing yourself anyway.

Brody Foster
Brody Foster

I know how it works, nigger. I am a lawyer. I've done the extra qualifications and been admitted to legal practice. But thanks for proving my point. Law degrees are a dime a dozen these days. Let's assume you're telling the truth about having a law degree. You're not a solicitor, you're not a barrister, you're not a legal practitioner, because you haven't fulfilled the requirements.

You're just a faggot with a law degree (but like I've said you're bullshitting about it) and there's more than enough of fags like you.

Stop claiming to be something you're not, and in the unlikely event you are telling the truth, shut your whore mouth unless you want to ruin your legal career before it starts: do not give legal advice or claim to be a legal practitioner.

Connor Thompson
Connor Thompson

Roman systems are literal shit-tier. No wonder you people struggle so much with basic ideas like 'democracy' and 'rights' - all gifted by the common law,
Coul you expand on this ukanon?

Alexander Martin
Alexander Martin

No, you don't. You clearly didn't know that prior to posting your other drivel, or you wouldn't have posted it at all, and made such an ignorant cock of yourself. Get better.

Justin Rivera
Justin Rivera

There are many forms of legal system, but the two primary ones are common law and civilian law. Common law systems originated in England, largely as a result of property law developments, and other shit that went on from about the time of Henry II to about the mid 19th century when it was all mostly formalised. The common law is now the legal system used in the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and can be found either modified in some countries, or hybridised in others (like South African and Scotland where it is mixed with Roman law).

Civilian systems originated primarily with Roman law codified by Justinian, Napoleonic code, and then shit like the German system, whatever. They are all codified systems (i.e. their law is written down).

The common law is effectively judge-made law. So judges make a rule, then later judges apply it, modify it, whatever. Common law is best suited to capitalist economies (particularly because of its contract law), and grounded the US constitution (particularly the judgements of Edmund Coke).

Common law is superior system. More philosophically coherent.

Kayden Rodriguez
Kayden Rodriguez

Congratulations. I hope you destroy kike legal opposition when you face it.

Oliver Brooks
Oliver Brooks

I don't actually know anything about this, but HK is a common law system, and I just did a three year degree in law (UK) so feel free to ask me anything.
what the fuck do you have to add? fuck off.

Camden Evans
Camden Evans

That's okay friend. Think what you'd like. I'm just trying to save you from yourself.

There's enough information in here for Cambridge to identify you. I'm sure they'd take immense pride and interest in the great work their alumni like you are doing.

Colton Hughes
Colton Hughes

Are you a good goy?
Good goyim aren't anti-semitic..

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Carson Davis
Carson Davis

Ok, dope. Whatever you say. Enjoy your buttblast at being outed as a total fake. No actually qualified lawyer would use vague phrasing like "extra qualifications" and "been admitted to legal practice". You'd use the actual terms for whatever the qualification is (like I did), but you go ahead and keep making a tit of yourself, it's all good to me.

Ethan James
Ethan James

No wonder you people struggle so much with basic ideas like 'democracy' and 'rights' - all gifted by the common law,
I still don't comprehend this, how does Roman civil Law fuck with us and our understanding of these concepts?
thank you for the response!

Logan Peterson
Logan Peterson

Meant to you

Gabriel Young
Gabriel Young

As you so eloquently explained earlier, we are from different jurisdictions. Because of this fact, I was using general terms to explain processes that are fundamentally the same in our jurisdictions, but go by different names specific to an individual jurisdiction. I'm sorry that you couldn't connect the dots and realise I was communicating in this fashion by using industry accepted terminology when discussing jurisdictional procedures.

But I digress. You're a fresh law graduate and naturally, you know everything. With your attitude, you're going to have an absolutely smashing legal career! Alternatively, you'll be chewed up and spat out. I know what I'll be betting on.

Wyatt Foster
Wyatt Foster

Yes, sorry, I'm sort of limited in how much posting space I have. Effectively, when we think of things like 'rights', these have originated in common law systems. For instance, the UK is a signatory to the European Convention of Human Rights. This convention has various Articles (right to life, fair trial, family life, whatever). A lot of people think that originated in Europe, but, in fact, it was largely written by English lawyers using common law principles. So, that's an example of 'rights' doctrine originating in a common law system. The only comparator I know is the EU's 'Charter of Fundamental Rights', but really this is just a type of economic policy sham. So, that's an example of rights originating from the common law.

There are a series of academics who write about this, but what it essentially comes down to are two different views of the individual in the two legal systems, best articulated in the writing of various philosophers.

Civilian law - best articulated by Rousseau. Individual has a 'brute nature' that is 'bettered' by social control. So, for instance, if you want to make a contract, you set out what you want, then it gets funnelled through various codified laws.

Common law - best by Hobbes/Locke. The individual is an inherently free agent imbued with ability, imagination, etc. So, again, by example of contract - you can make whatever contract you like & judges will uphold it as you are a free agent. So 'free agency' is a very big root of the common law. Therefore: more protection of the individual, more 'rights' afforded to them.

Does that make sense?

Asher Gonzalez
Asher Gonzalez

Actually, no. I'm going to specialise in unjust enrichment, and/or property and trusts. I mean, I'm going to be paid very, very well, but ok, whatever you say - you being a 'lawyer' and all as you claim. Far be it from me to question your crystal-ball capacities.

Hudson Edwards
Hudson Edwards

Good luck my dude - careful not to choke on your aspirations!

Austin Martin
Austin Martin

And just to add to this, you can see this play out more broadly, too. So, European culture, for instance, plays a high premium on education, refining skills, excelling and becoming a master at something (music, art, whatever). So, again, the individual is pummelled and polished into an 'ideal' human - a better human than his brute nature.

Conversely, in the common law systems (notably the UK and America), a very high premium is placed on individuality - even raw talent and ability is celebrated as being indicative of a core form of 'inherent humanity'. It ALSO means these systems, by extension, prize things like free enterprise, free trade, free marketeering - it all comes down to the view the law has of people as having inherent agency to make their own decisions.Thus, the best way to very simply explain this is to say the common law "runs behind" people (so it waits for something to go wrong but otherwise lets people do what they want), and civilian systems "run ahead" - so they write laws, make laws, etc. that apply BEFORE you do something.

Both systems have their advantages - it just really depends on what you think the purpose and function of 'human individuality' is.

Tyler Scott
Tyler Scott

Thanks, man. Australia is an exceptional jurisdiction, by the way. Currently considered to be producing better judgments for trusts than any other. UK soon to be following quite a few of them.

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