DAILY GOSPEL: The Holy Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ according to Saint Matthew 5, 27-32
>Jesus said to his disciples: "You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ >But I say to you that every one who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. >If your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out and throw it away; it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell. >And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away; it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell. >It was also said, ‘Whoever divorces his wife, let him give her a certificate of divorce.’ >But I say to you that every one who divorces his wife, except on the ground of unchastity, makes her an adulteress; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery."
Today, June 14, is the feast day of: >St. Caomhán of Inisheer >St. Burchard of Meissen >St. Saint Davnet >St. Elgar of Bardsey >St. Elisha >St. Joseph the Hymnographer >St. Valerius and St. Rufinus >St. Etherius of Vienne
I was close to God once but now I feel far, how can I get close again OP? The fiery passion and spirit I had now feels like a shadow of its former self.
That's not a big deal. Remember that the passions and emotions are not the truth. God gives us passion and emotion as a consolation, but ultimately religion and faith are intellectual choices. As we advance in the spiritual life, God begins taking away our emotional and passionate consolations, so that we learn to pray and worship without the reward. demons can manipulate emotions, so never rely on emotion. never pray for emotional consolation. St. John of the Cross calls it "The Dark Night of the Soul" and it is absolutely necessary for spiritual enlightenment. Think about it like a baby growing up. At first the parents carry it everywhere, and caress it, and answer every cry. but as the baby grows up, they start making it walk, they start teaching it to wait before they take care of it's problems, and they start making it do things it doesn't like. the baby doesn't like it, but if they don't do those things, then the baby can never grow. when the emotional fire goes out, that is when the spiritual fire blazes highest. the best time to pray is when you don't feel like praying.
The light of faith burns likes a candle in a tempest. Everyone has crisis of faith, user.
Nathaniel Scott
I've been having trouble with old sins coming back lately, so my pastor suggested I do a Marian consecration. she is the one who got me back into the faith after decades of being a degenerate piece of shit, so I have total faith that she will help me again. its good to have a mother like Mary.
Do any of you here struggle with Lust/masturbation?
I just recently relapsed after about a month or so of not masturbating, having sexual urges/desires, fantasies etc. I’ve been going to mass every sunday (need to go to confession, though) and have been desiring to grow in the spiritual life.
That being said, i couldn’t help but feel a tension within, with regards to both the lack of my sexual desire for that period (e.g. wondering whether this was normal or a bestowal of grace) and whether or not this was perhaps some trick of the mind or devil. I’m aware that it is easy to become prideful or even conceited when you think or feel yourself to have learned to control your base passions-something not everyone can or is willing to do-but then i’m reminded of what paul said in his letter to the corinthians
“Therefore, whoever thinks he is standing securely should watch out so he doesn't fall.”
And i have fallen. I fell the following day to temptation after deciding the previous night to begin praying the holy rosary. Why is the assault of sexual urges and temptation so powerful that even in the midst of the act, you know that what you’re doing is not pleasing in the eyes of the lord yet you cannot help from continuing on? Does temptation suddenly assault you when you decide to increase in the spiritual life (e.g. begin praying more, etc.)?
Please pray for me and if any of you have any thoughts or advice, i would greatly appreciate it.
Isaiah 53:9 King James Version (KJV) 9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.
John 2:15 And He made a scourge of cords, and drove them all out of the temple, with the sheep and the oxen; and He poured out the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables;
Matthew 10 : 34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn
“‘a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law— 36 a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’[c]
37 “Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38 Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39 Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it.
40 “Anyone who welcomes you welcomes me, and anyone who welcomes me welcomes the one who sent me. 41 Whoever welcomes a prophet as a prophet will receive a prophet’s reward, and whoever welcomes a righteous person as a righteous person will receive a righteous person’s reward. 42 And if anyone gives even a cup of cold water to one of these little ones who is my disciple, truly I tell you, that person will certainly not lose their reward.”
>If you watch porn on your phone, get rid of it. where in the bible does it forbid porn? oh wait
Brandon Fisher
>Do any of you here struggle with Lust/masturbation? Almost every young Catholic man in the post-1960s world struggles with this. We've been inundated with porn from a very young age, our society is completely sex-crazed, everywhere in the media, everywhere in women's fashion, in the music we listen to and the movies we watch. it's even in the newspapers, with all these sex scandal stories. i'm not trying to excuse the sin, because it is a very grave sin, but it is also not entirely a young man's fault that he struggles, the entire world is designed to make the young Christian man struggle. God knows our heart. if He allowed us to fall down, it is only that we learn to rely on Him even more. As you advance in the spiritual life, Satan begins bringing out the old and powerful temptations. Often times the first rush of passion for the Lord makes it really easy to avoid sin, but then the passion fades and those temptations that we thought we'd conquered come back, stronger than ever. remember that Satan's ultimate temptation is not to get you to fall, it is to get you to be discouraged after the fall.
before we sin; Satan is our "friend" he is so nice. he tells us it's no big deal, he tells us it's not our fault, he tells us it'll be fine, God will forgive us anyway, etc. then once we fall he accuses us! tell us we're worthless, we're pathetic, we aren't worth saving, might as well give up, tells us we'll never be free of sin. Jesus is very hard before we sin. he tells us to ignore the temptation, ignore the pain, do something else, fight your urges. but after the sin, Jesus is the one who comforts us, forgives us, encourages us, reminds us of his sacrifice. chin up! the battle is not yet lost!
The part where it says looking lustfully at women with your eyes?
But I say to you that every one who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
Josiah Gray
How to dissect this....
Is jesus foretelling what will happen as a result of following him in that doing so will require not only sacrifice but will also lead to division amongst the family. I don’t think that he would consider this subsequent “division”-if taken literally-to be a desirable state of affairs.
I think i read something from one of the church fathers (can’t remember which one) that this division christ speaks of is representative of mans soul and that each of the “family members” is representative of some aspect of mans soul, which could be the case if you take mans being or soul to be representative of “...his own household”.
Chase Jackson
>need to go to confession This is important bro, don't be afraid of confessing your sins, the priest isn't there to judge you, but to give you God's forgiveness. Also remember that you musn't take Communion until you have repented from your sins
>advice i'd recommend having a Jesus pic next to your PC or on your desk
>The part where it says looking lustfully at women with your eyes? this part only refers to irl women, its just saying dont think about fuggin other people s wives thats bad no where in the hundreds of thousands of words in both the new or old testament does it prohibit porn, modern christian just made it up for some uknown reason
>Is jesus foretelling what will happen as a result of following him in that doing so will require not only sacrifice but will also lead to division amongst the family. yes hate your father if your father tells you "son you re retarded stop falling for gurus" love jesus more than your familly AND children or you wont go into heaven he says him not me
well I guess I m going to hell then
>I don’t think that he would consider this subsequent “division”-if taken literally-to be a desirable state of affairs. he (jesus) clearly doesnt give a fuck if its desirable or not, he s saying its a necessity and a prerequisit
>I think i read something from one of the church fathers (can’t remember which one) non primary sources, they dont speak from god do they? do they speak FOR jesus?
>that this division christ speaks of is representative of mans soul and that each of the “family members” is representative of some aspect of mans soul come on dont tell me you unironically believe thats what he meant
>n-nU GUISE when he said “Anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me" he actually meant detatchment from your own soul !!1!
internet porn didn't exist when they wrote the Bible yeah, you have to love Jesus more than you love your family and children. please don't say you're going to hell. just change.
Behave like you're always being watched. If you feel any urges, immediately do something that requires energy. Going for a run is a very beneficial replacement. If it's night time or you can't go for a run, open up a difficult book and concentrate on it. Every young man deals with temptation to some degree. It helps if you remind yourself that love is not sexual release, and that sexual release is meaningless without love.
Robert Foster
>internet porn didn't exist when they wrote the Bible who cares about internet porn, porn is porn, wether its on a stone tablet an ipad or a magazine
>yeah, you have to love Jesus more than you love your family and children. >please don't say you're going to hell. just change. yeah no fuck you, my children will get to have a loving father, and if that pisses יהוה off then fuck him too
if being sent in hell is the price to pay to be a decent man then so be it, what is it with christians and cowardice?
If God is omniscient, why does he need to let human life play out and see what decisions we make that determines whether or not we go to hell for an eternity or not? Didn't he already know before creating us how it would play out?
Just made confirmation this Sunday, it was amazing experience to also have it on Pentecost, forever more my 3rd favorite day of the year and permanently one of the best experiences of my life
Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us, now and at the hour of our death, Amen. If you like Fulton Sheen check out his autobiography 'Treasure in Clay'. I must confess, i'm not a good reader but his book was easy and a joy to read, i've only read 5 books outside of school on my own free will and his book is the latest i've finished and it was great. Sheen's book is not just autobiography he puts a lot of wisdom, spiritual advice, and even a little theology. I highly recommend it to you and user's ITT.
>nigger zogbot >jesus wearing lord of the rings flag >half of the people in the picture are either jews or freemasons, neither follow jesus >fuck le south >you put one astraunot an dyou chose a WAMEN why is america so fucking digusting
God is perfect. God is beyond even time. It's an insult to God to apply limited concepts such as time to Him. What you see as a lifetime, God sees as now. Trying to ascertain God's motivations is arrogance.
Bentley Kelly
I can’t stand protestantism anymore I’m going to convert
Juan Bailey
This is a Jesuit shill thread. Saged.
Christopher Torres
I doubt stone tablet porn was really an issue. loving Jesus more than your children does not preclude you from loving your children.
Levi Cook
This isn't a question of whether god is constrained by time or not, or his motivations
1. God is all knowing 2. God knows whether or not you are going to hell
but he created us all and will punish us anyway, even though meeting gods standards has a lot to do with our own unique circumstances and our biological limitations. That's a big reason why christians push for indoctrination at such a young age, so we resist any reasoning to leave religion. But if you were born on an island in the middle of nowhere 2000 years ago and taught canibalism was ok, then you're screwed and had no way of knowing what you were in for
James Campbell
He's letting it play out for your benefit. Nice, I'll check it out. His "Life of Christ" is very good too.
>loving a literal kike on a stick more than your children The absolute state of Cucktholics
Aiden Thomas
You misunderstand moral law. Moral law applies to decision-making, not the action itself.
Ian Taylor
couple of things to go over here:
>he created us all and will punish us anyway yes. >even though meeting gods standards has a lot to do with our own unique circumstances and our biological limitations. God gives every man the grace necessary for salvation. >That's a big reason why christians push for indoctrination at such a young age, so we resist any reasoning to leave religion. that's kind of a biased reading, but that is basically true. >But if you were born on an island in the middle of nowhere 2000 years ago and taught canibalism was ok, then you're screwed and had no way of knowing what you were in for multiple things here: God does not hold everyone to the exact same standard Also, we believe in the Natural Law, which doesn't have to be taught. Every man has a base understanding of right and wrong without needing to be taught anything. If the head-hunter chooses to be evil, then he will suffer the same consequences as the Christian who chooses to be evil. If the head-hunter chooses to be good, then he will, at some point in his life, be given an opportunity to accept God.
Carson Torres
a kike is a jew who hates Christianity learn what words mean before you use them, kike.
Jose Cox
will watch this later for sure
Dominic Hughes
Anyone else going to Latin mass this Sunday?
Dylan Carter
You've read it? Nice. I have 'Life of Christ' on my shelf but i'm reading 'Spirit of Catholicism' by Karl Adam atm. Good bless. :)
Henry Nguyen
As this other user said, politics and religion go hand in hand.
Julian Moore
wrong, only in your mind is that true. Go suck nigger toes. correct.
How is looking at a women in a screen any different to looking at a women on the street? You still look at another women and commit sin in your heart.
Stop making excuses you degenerate fuck
Dylan Gutierrez
Francis isn't the real Pope, so I really don't give a shit if he sucks nigger toes or not. I'm sorry user. I got lucky enough to have an SSPX chapel in my area, although it's still on the other side of the city.
Oliver Gomez
i just argued with a french fry in a pagan post that hit the bump limit and now has a #2 thread cry harder
Asher Perez
The absolute state of Cucktholic hair splitting kys kike on a stick worshipper
Bentley Morgan
Me too man. I’m in your boat. This is a year long struggle. It’s been so hard for me. I just fapped now and feel disgusting and praying. But I cannot stop
Jordan Gutierrez
Christianity destroyed with historical and philosophical arguments:
God loves us, His creation, so much, he gave us the gift of the free will
>But if you were born on an island in the middle of nowhere 2000 years ago and taught canibalism was ok, then you're screwed and had no way of knowing what you were in for No, the CCC teachs from 1790 to 1793 that that's not the case >IV. ERRONEOUS JUDGMENT > A human being must always obey the certain judgment of his conscience. If he were deliberately to act against it, he would condemn himself. Yet it can happen that moral conscience remains in ignorance and makes erroneous judgments about acts to be performed or already committed. >This ignorance can often be imputed to personal responsibility. This is the case when a man "takes little trouble to find out what is true and good, or when conscience is by degrees almost blinded through the habit of committing sin. In such cases, the person is culpable for the evil he commits. >Ignorance of Christ and his Gospel, bad example given by others, enslavement to one's passions, assertion of a mistaken notion of autonomy of conscience, rejection of the Church's authority and her teaching, lack of conversion and of charity: these can be at the source of errors of judgment in moral conduct. >if - on the contrary - the ignorance is invincible, or the moral subject is not responsible for his erroneous judgment, the evil committed by the person cannot be imputed to him. It remains no less an evil, a privation, a disorder. One must therefore work to correct the errors of moral conscience.
Asher Wilson
>modern christian orthodoxy comes neither from jesus nor the bible we're not protestants so the whole Sola Scriptura thing doesn't work on us. >which one, link? it was about varg. go find it yourself. no one is banning you lmao
Nicholas Jenkins
first link i clicked on had a-historical bullshit.
Ryder Johnson
you re lying, link or gtfo, every non christian thread gets deleted by kike mods
"In 1909, Hitler visited Vienna to "study the Jewish problem" under the guidance of the zealot Roman Catholic Karl Lueger. Lueger was Vienna's mayor. He was also leader of the "rabidly anti-Semitic" Christian Social Party.[46][47] Hitler greatly admired Lueger. His first anti-Semitic pamphlets were published by the Christian Socialists which reprinted several articles from La Civiltà Cattolica.[48][49] Lapide (1967) suggests Hitler may have been influenced by "La Civiltà Cattolica".[48] In 1914 the journal described Jews as drinking blood as if it was milk in the context of killing Christian children.[50] Der Stürmer printed a special edition dedicated to "Jewish ritual murder" which included extensive quotations from "La Civiltà Cattolica"."[51] A 1920 article in journal described Jews as "the filthy element" who "were avid for money" and who wanted to "proclaim the communist republic tomorrow."[52]
there are hundreds of non-Christian threads here every day mostly they either attract Christians who keep them alive by arguing, or they don't attract Christians and then they disappear because no one gives a fuck
Luke Baker
>religion is non political >proceeds to post links of religion in political issues
show me the link of that thread that TOTALLY DIDNT GET DELETED and reached the bump limit there isnt a single anti christian thread on the catalog right now
>Earl Of Gray's account is gone. Where do I go for his pro-catholic posting??
Kevin King
last time i posted in it, it had like 280 posts. if it got deleted than boo fucking hoo, it was basically at the bump limit anyway. >there isnt a single anti christian thread on the catalog right now then make one you little baby.
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Owen Powell
>last time i posted in it, it had like 280 posts. if it got deleted than boo fucking hoo, it was basically at the bump limit anyway. >>there isnt a single anti christian thread on the catalog right now >then make one you little baby. and now you admit everything, everything I ve said was true, everything you ve said was a lie
fucking subhuman scum
but hey, your beliefs can only survive under censorship, like commies and leftists, that has a good side, do you see christians doing that much censorship nowdays? oh what s that? the church lost its power and no longer burns books and the people who wrote them? thats why your religion is dying and there is nothing you can do to stop it
you get banned by the kike mods if you do that it s been established
"bunch together a group of sterile vacuous faggots with a "White male" pseudo identity, you have an uninspiring, subverted by the jew - bunch of homosexuals trying to start a movement that'll never get off the ground"
- the faggot observer
Nolan Adams
>Click Archive >ctrl F >"christ" and those are just a few results maybe you should start bumping those threads if you want to keep them alive; i myself have been posting a /cg/ everyday and a saw how some days it'd get just a few replies and some days it'd get to bump limit
Matthew Allen
>everything I ve said was true no, everything you said was whining. >your beliefs can only survive under censorship yeah, you know those 300 years before Constantine were just full of Roman censorship of other religions in favor of Christianity. great argument. go make an antiChristian thread if you want one. >b-b-b-but they ban me! i doubt it, but if they do, good.
Asher Hughes
Ok so I guess the island people are ok. But what about objective morality? Morality is only objective based on whether you know what you're doing is wrong? Ok then. Is there biblical evidence for this?
But back to my other idea. God created us and knows what decisions we will make, and why we will make those decisions. He knows the biological and psychological reasoning why we will, being tempted by the devil, emotions taking over our reasoning, etc etc. Why punish his imperfect design for being imperfect? Kids who grow up in bad homes will commit more crime, that's just a consequence of psychology and our biological responses, but god designed this and will punish us for it?
And I can't help but question why an omnipotent being would have to physically simulate all this out and then put every single person either in heaven or hell for all eternity based on the results of this simulation, which he already knows the outcomes to
Hunter Powell
Have you considered killing yourself, schizo shitposter?
Kevin Thompson
lmao so the ones that die dont get deleted? thats your fucking argument?
embrace old world Christianity. stop getting sodomized by sam harris
christians have one of the highest jewish expulsion counts in history -
subjugate your women again
Luis Martinez
>But what about objective morality? That's where the natural law comes in. Every man knows certain things are right/wrong regardless of what he's been taught or hasn't been taught. >Why punish his imperfect design for being imperfect? The design wasn't imperfect. It is imperfect as a consequence of sin. If man had not sinned, then man would not be imperfect. Also it is just an excuse saying that people commit crimes because they grew up in bad homes. Everyone has a choice. The fact that some people grew up in bad homes and don't commit crimes is proof that bad homes do not doom a man to criminal behavior. Is it more difficult for a person with shit parents to be a good person? Yes. Is that unfair? Maybe. Does that mean they can be excused for being a nigger? Nope. Reality is not a simulation. And God puts us in Heaven or Hell based on our choices. He created us because He loves us, and He gives us the choice to do right. If we choose to do wrong instead, well then we have no one to blame but ourselves.
Elijah Nelson
one of those threads has 123 replies. why didn't it get deleted?