German Economy

Are we fucked by the US? is it still good?

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You're fucked by China.

I think China is just the "workbench" the us is using they still need dollar somehow

We suck at software development. Developing large-scaled software projects requires accepting risks, and our society doesn't allow this. We are leaders in educational papers on six-sigma. We get trimmed to minimize risks, from school to university. This is why we can't into software and this is why this country won't have a future.

Machinery, sensors, adapters etc. all those "things" we produce, "things" that cost thousands of Euros today, will become as cheap as pennies in the future. The future is in information and software, the UK and America understood this from early on. The German boomers shun no risk and fucked us over.

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They should be Germany had been an incredible leech both towards US and EU, it's time for some pay back. Germany should go back to being Spain-tier where you actually belong.

Nigger, how the fuck will the materials for industrial machinery, cars, and engines be dirt cheap? The materials science involved is far more difficult and costly than hiring some poojeet code monkeys.

Production costs are steadily declining, immense cost pressure from China and Korea. You can read the numbers, just look at some DAX annual reports. GDP growth will be -0.2% this year.

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Well, it’s not just software. Where are the German companies making mobile phones or computers? How did a company like say Siemens miss out on the whole smartphone revolution? German’s used to be gods when it came to technology. How did you guys fall asleep behind the wheel?

dont worry german brother. muslim countries look out for each other. we will buy your stuff

Germany has superior engine technology.
Gooks and chinks dont mechanical engineering genius to make reliable engines
Also the metallurgy is incredibly complex into create the engines. It requires decades of experience, something chinks and gooks don't have.

i noticed that software development tends to be focused in very specific countries.

also, that girl makes my pee pee hard

I dont think we suck, the good ones just go the US or Swiss, because they get low salarys

You have faggy startups in Berlin.They're not doing much but it's a start.

"Globalisation"

thats pretty scary. but china makes shoddy products tho. they dont seem to actually care about quality

I double the question
why we have Nokia and don't have a German designed smartphone?

kek

yup. i'm always impressed by how intelligence asians are and at the same time, so uninspiring and uncreative they are

Siemens is a dying dinosaur, a sinking oil tanker. The good times are over for Siemens young people do not want to work there. Siemens is a stinking Boomer Nest full of toxic politics and ugly games.

Yeah. I mean Siemens for instance made smartphones, but just gave up and sold it off to BenQ. Surely if they pushed a bit harder and stayed in the game there would’ve been at least one European player in the smartphone world (excluding Nokia that just fucked things up by going from hero to zero).

I would work for Siemens

>muslim countries look out for each other
well probably not much, since you are all shitholes.

they make trains.

Producing "things" is easy. Low quality is not the problem of bad workers. The problem is at the top! Management!

Failure of management to plan for the future and to foresee problems has brought about waste of manpower, of materials, and of machine-time, all of which raise the manufacturer’s cost and price that the purchaser must pay. The consumer is not always willing to subsidize this waste. The inevitable result is loss of market. Loss of market begets unemployment.

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But it’s not just Siemens. Other German technology companies basically just gave up their lead to Asia. AEG, Bosch or Telefunken should’ve been serious contenders to say LG or Samsung. But most of those companies are either dead, serving a niche purpose or seriously dying.

>Volkswagen
No one is beating that sooner.

I thought Germany was making microchips and other fancy internal stuff parts.

no. there is good management and there is bad management, but this doesnt really matter, because we dont have the manpower and also dont have the ressources

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Competent men in every position, if they are doing their best, know all that there is to know about their work except how to improve it.

SAP is a German company and it took a ton of sales from IBM and other American companies

Germans can do software it is just that competition from America is brutal and since the world is run in the english language then it is a steep hill to climb/

Siemens mobile made good phones but they sold their mobile division to BenQ of Taiwan who destroyed it and closed it down

>Production costs are steadily declining
While product lifecycles getting shorter

But is was seriously daft to sell it off. I realize the mobile phone market is a tough game. Take Nokia or Motorola, who used to be the kings of the game. Both those companies just took their lead for granted and stopped innovating. If Siemens pushed the technology, there probably would’ve been a serious European rival for Samsung or Apple.

SAP acquired a shit ton of US companies through aggressive M&A strategies, massive technology transfer

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAP_SE#Acquisitions

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There sure, I only drive BMWs because of this, maintenance is a little more expensive but if you take care of a BMW it will Outlast anything else I've driven while still being fun to drive and look good

Siemens sold it off right before 2007 when the iphone changed the entire cellphone industry

I guess Siemens saved a lot of money because Motorola broke up and is owned by Lenovo and Nokia cellphone was bought by Microsoft only for it to fire 8000 people 3 years later. Nokia ex employees created a new company and license the nokia name to make cellphones again!!!

Manufacturing smart phones is no magic nowadays. Also Nokia only was relevant due to their aggressive price strategy, which made their products affordable to anyone. I thank Steve Jobs personally for breaking this monopoly up, I hated all the Nokia bugphones. You couldn't browse 4chin on those shitty phones anyway.

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It’s as if innovation in Europe just died. Where are the European rivals to Amazon, Google or Apple? The Asians probably aren’t great at innovating, but at least they’ve provided some competition through companies like AliExpress, Huawei or TenCent. Now that I think of it, even Japan isn’t really on top of their game either.

it's enough, if not the ECB will fix it, don't ever worry about money again user I mean it, that i is not the eurozone's problem

It's economics of scale, bundling factors and benefits of centralisation. There is simply no need for two Amazons, two googles and they buy up their competition.

China locked their own market and still does. Zuckerberg even married a bugwoman to try to get into it.

You're fucked because of the Deutsche Bank zero interest loan policy and the EU regulating and taxing the shit out of your economy.

Let's not even start talking about your shit poor birth rates and sandnigger invasion.

China needs Dollars because they bought a large part of US debt at the same time though they are getting together with Russia and Saudi Arabia and will in due time be able to buy Oil for Yuans which will be redeemable to pure gold in their central banks (China and Russia are gobbling up the world's gold reserves) It reached the news here that just out of Venezuela they took 4 Tupolev transport planes of pure gold

up

>Zuckerberg even married a bugwoman to try to get into it.
kek red-pilled af

I get that. But all those companies were started in the US. They innovated and offered disruptive technology. Why isn’t the same disruptive technology coming out of Europe? The Europeans dominate things like pharma and you guys still make excellent automotive technology. However, game changing technology seems to still come out of the US mostly.

Europe is full of old boomers, slavs and muslims and Japan is just full of even older pensioners where the only growing industry are adult diapers. China has a billion high IQ chinks and North America has 6 million Jews, how can we compete?

China has millions of men who will never marry because there are not enough chink women as they aborted their entire race the last 30 years

that is why the chink communist party stopped the one child policy as it completely fucked their balance of men to women ratio

>SAP is a German company
>Germans can do software
If you would know SAP, you would know that this makes no sense.
t. SAP developer

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The actual great thing about SAP R/3 is that it's basically open source (not for everyone, but everyone with a license) and that you can modify it plus do your own software development.

But the standard modules + transactions are more often than not shit.

SAP is pure concentrated German autism, like from an alternative universe where the developers of Euro Truck Driving Simulator bought Google

those millions of men will literally turn Africa into Wakanda

>SAP is pure concentrated German autism
Nailed it.

This is what baffles me. Europe still has some of the best universities in the world. When it comes to research output, European universities are pretty competitive with their counterparts across the pond. There certainly isn’t a dearth of intellect or talent in Europe. In the early days of home computing, Britain used to be a leader with computers such as the Amstrad and the ZX spectrum. People like Jony Ive and Tim Berners-Lee we’re British and they changed the fucking world. However, Americans and Asians take the baton and run with it.

SAP is shit design feels like a dinosaur but I guess that's what Boomer management likes about it

>t. SAP developer
I can feel u desu

pls rember that wen u feel scare or frigten
never forget ttimes wen u feeled happy withoud sap

wen day is dark alway rember happy day

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Because euroa are too pussy to want to disrupt anything. Disruption offends others, offending others is illegal.

Stop it only mutts are allowed to make money! REEEEEEEE

anglo order is better than german order, obviously.

All tech development started from a strong militaristic base. The UK military is just Airstrip One now, and Germany doesn't even have a military anymore. Most German and Japanese tech and industrial companies were started before WWII when they were preparing for total war with the world. The US, China and even South Korea still have strong militaries that encourage the tech and industrial sectors (either directly or via state backing) to develop, as they have a genuine need for technological development since they are at the risk of war.

t. soi boi

Can you make BMWs play a song every time the engine starts?
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Youa re fucked by Spain and Italy.
Seriusly, never forget that if we fuck up, you fuck up too.
And oooh man we fuck it up a lot

I never thought of it that way. You’re probably right. The Israeli tech industry also punches way above its weight and I suspect a lot of that innovation is driven by military need.

No large-scale shit is done by pajet companys they fuck it up a lot. Most Good software is done in US/China

Remember the time when you felt sad for the first time, and then remember the time before it, that might have been the happy time.

There are faggy startups in Spain too.
If theya re succesful with a good idea, Google buys them, literally many of our teachers in college advice us to sell our start ups as early as possible.
besides that many chinks/pajeets just see your idea and clone it

>many of our teachers in college advice us to sell our start ups as early as possible.

they are sabotaging your country.

China developed their own tech to make chips recently(up until 2016 they hadnt it).
Their new super-computers are entirely chinese made, also they have a new architecture that is rather interesting, was nice to see this cores work when a chinese unversity students came to ours.
The west is losing the lead.

what CPU are the chinese using?? Intel or AMD??? they using PowerPC?

Adidas is German? I guess I'll have to switch to Nike.

We are a boobmer continent, as simple as that

Its only the north of italy, and i dont think we "need" any of you southern europe lazy sunburning sandniggers to make europe strong

I think you're overestimating the chong capabilities. Most of it is heavy government propaganda.

No we must side with China and Russia. The USAss does nothing besides keeping us down

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Completely new one, that is why I say they will take over, They have started it from scratch to work well on paralelism so they doesnt have to deal with legacy registers and stuff, prety impresive to be fair.
The economy is pretty fucked any ways, they just told us what is best for us not the country, lebaralism mindset...

Im not sure about that, siding with china?
this country has literally gone to Orwells1984

Well I knew I shouldn't reply to anime posters but still look at the picture, it's scientific journals, papers, conferences etc. related to computer science, that includes AI and many things.

Germany is leading, sure if you divide it per population - it's not that impressive, but it's slightly better than America, difference is that America attracts external talent - while you guys don't.

You have the potential, maybe you need to open up and advertise.

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The eternal Kraut... THATS WHAT I MEAN ITS CALLED JOKING ITS A FUCKING JOKE I KNOW OUR ECONMIES ARE SHIT THATS WHY I SAY THAT IN THIS MONETARY UNION YOUA RE FUCKED CAUSE OF OUR RETARDENESS AND LAZYNESS
Even your top 10 supercomputer is made by the chinese(pic related)

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>How did a company like say Siemens miss out on the whole smartphone revolution?

Good management, sticking to conservative policies - fundamentals, not risking out.

Checked

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this.
We should side with based china

I hope so. You autistic fuckers have been draining money from all other EU country for far too long.

They literally suck up all the engineers of the continent...

>Good management
>Siemens

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Not fucked but hurt pretty bad. Thanks to your muzzir cucked empress Merkel.

>Are we fucked by the US?
Yes
>is it still good?
No
But you have no chance

insane when you consider how many people were dumped here. population growth alone should drive gdp higher

Germany is producing 20th century products and fails to reorient itself to the digital market. That's how shitty its industrial policies are and its dragging the smaller economies reliant on it to hell with it. So yes, we're fucked, but not because of the US

if you are interested in that topic, it was a sabotage from the start. There's a guy who wanted to become a professor in computer science and got bullied out of it. He blogs about it and about the political situation in Germany and rest of the world.

danisch.de/blog/2019/05/18/sabotage-deuts
sprache-werner.info/Dissertation.32267.html
danisch.de/blog/adele-und-die-fledermaus/

Chinese electric motors are nearly equal to bosch in quality at 10% the cost

maybe 30 years ago. lol if you still believe that

But is it a good strategy to play it safe in a rapidly changing world? Take Apple. They were basically a dying company during the late 80s and 90s. They took big risks with the iPod and the iPhone. Neither of those were even remotely part of their core business.

>Germany has superior engine technology.
not modern Germans

>Are we fucked by the US?

no you fuck up yourself with your shity forced environmental policies

Of course it's not, it never is.

Look at Orthodox Churches in eastern countries and their die hard followers. You have magazines showing the "Orthodox Family" and you see pictures of people in fields, with animals and peasant dressing code from 100 years ago, this is pure autism objectively - a mental derail by this point.

Any forms of political conservatism: neo-conservatism, palaeo-conservatism, “lost-cause” conservatism, monarcho-conservatism, theo-conservatism, or any other form of conservatism are incapable to understand the fact of social change...
Maybe it is even greed, jealous desire to freeze reality in an image of a past they only think they recall, understand or monopolized.

I heard countless business owners that done stupid shit for long periods of time claiming: I do what I do because it worked in the past...

It's basically peak delusion, and of course managers, ceo's can be wrong and are wrong often - look at 2008 and how all those Ivy league trained experts, managed to fuck it so big, thousands of talking heads but no one was looking at simple data points and obvious patterns.

What I wrote is kind of chaotic, but hope you get my general point - I'm very tired, been sleep deprived for so many hours.

cucked by socialism

It's pretty clear there is an undeclared war going on against Germany. The only perplexing part is that Merkel seems to be a part of it.

You are fucked by yourself and by your outdated mercantilistic model.

The German economy will be fine. I have personally been boycotting German products for nearly a decade though.