Can Civilization exist without Currency?

Yes, but currency makes it easier to trade.

Just few corrections, the state leads to central banks, cultural degeneracy is caused by the lack of morality and corruption is part of crony capitalism (state existence).

Oh yeah, you give them 2 options: sterilization or deportation. I mean make it feel like they're choosing it.

Similar to communism, Yes. However, everything you are able to do would be skill based and everything we have now, you would be taught how to do yourself. You would take a test to prove you have the theoretical knowledge, if you pass, you get the resources you requested.

>>Needing these things to be alive.
>>Not building cities around walking instead of around driving.
>>Can't be taught how to construct something this advanced.

Money contributes largely to cultural degeneracy and lack of morality, especially corruption.

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Ok, so when I want to build my car how am I going to get the parts? Trade them food? Dude, you're a massive fucking downey. You truly missed the entire fucking point.

So really this just boils down to "if you need anything the government just gives it to you. But if you want a car you have to build it yourself."

You would construct the parts yourself from scratch through metal casting techniques that you would have been taught in the hypothetical education system. which literally teaches you how to build everything yourself through the 15 years you would be enrolled. The raw materials themselves would be an allotment from central government, once it has been determined you have the theoretical skill and knowledge necessary, via a test or certifications.

No. If you desire something, the government would allot you the materials to do it, not give it to you, see above statement. You would have to prove you are capable of it in the first place, knowledge would be the currency you barter with.

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idk about you, but i like technology
if it were used to actually solve problems instead of just control the goyim, it'd do a lot

So if you can't build a car, you don't get a car? That would kill our economy. Do you know how many people commute every single day? Literslly millions. Billions if you count the entire world. This is such a retarded idea.

>Mathematics leads to currency, leads to economics, leads to banking, leads to specialization to an infinite degree and thus contributes to not only our adva

Wrong.
Economics exists before all that. Economics is nothing but : Cooperation between humans.

Read the rest of the thread.

Short answer: In this hypothetical scenario, you would have the skill to do it. If you were to lazy or to retarded, you wouldn't own one unless you could barter with something who could build it.

You're thinking of Trade. Cooperation between humans isn't economics, its tribalism. Economics is the exchange of currency for goods and services.

The Replicator will solve everyone's living problems

Ap your entire hypothetical is that everyone is not only a master mechanic, but also a master chef, professional farmer, master electrician, master plumber, master mason, professional accountant. Absolutely retarded.

They're working on it. The 3-d printer is the first step and it has come a long way, it prints everything from food, parts, all the way to houses and components.

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Why? If you were taught over the course of 15 years, you don't think you could learn of that before you turn 18? The entire education system would be geared towards the cultivation of skill instead of trivia that changes every few years. Your whole education would be to build a skill set you would use practically yourself through your entire life.

Are you sure that's retarded?

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>>Retarded.

Are you sure about that?

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>"dude just learn how to cook, build a house, build a car, run a farm, do complex math, and create an electrical grid for your home while you're a child. like wtf it's so easy XD"
I'm with the other user. You are extremely retarded.

Not a snowball's chance in hell

Look up bee/ant/termite civilization

you are missing the point. bees/ants/multicellular organisms/eusocials all create society and distribute resources equally with absolutley ZERO economic theorists. they have no hayek/mises/keynes/rockefeller to manipulate, exploit, and enslave them thru abstract theories based on mental gymnastics

Without government violence to keep the people from natural resource, capitalism couldn't exist. There is no time in history where capitalism didn't evolve with a tyrannical government enclosure plan.

>knows nothing of ant/bee civilizations

eusocial civilizations include multicellular organisms which create retarded monkeys like you

they are much more complex than anything the human race every imagined

>totally oblivious to the basics of natural resource distribution
>cant even explain basic systems in nature

okay, professor gaysburg, where in nature do your economic theories actually apply in practice?

if economics was an absolute, then it could be applied outside of human society onto any collection of organisms that consume resources. economics cant even be applied to complex non-human societies such as ant society, eusocial insects, and multicellular organisms

economics is a farce and a sham

(((Economy))) is pseudoscience

aka "Niggeronomics"

in nature civilizations (eusocial bees, ants, termites, multicellular cells...) only have one type of resource distrubution system: equal and communistic

your entire argument is trying to justify your superfluous career and mental gymnastics as a requirement for civilization/society, which it is not

try to apply neoliberal or any other economic voodoo theory onto bee societies without conflating human business interests

bees survived hundreds of millions of years. humans, with their complex economic theories? not so much

theres no need to overengineer and convolute a very simple process of resource distrubution

in nature, resources are distributed equally and proportional to the members of eusocial communities, ie: ants, bees, termites multicellular organisms

however, thru the mental gymnastics of economics, resources are distributed disproportionately, where most of the resources are artificially owned by a minority, while the majority engages in daily battles to obtain scraps thrown out from the oligarch table

capitalism is an attempt to legalize the crime of stealing resources from goyim, by creating a convoluted set of complex scams to hide the crimes beneath layers of bureaucracy, red-tape, lobbies

this is not natural, since eusocial economic systems are based on equal and proportional distribution of resources, ie: bees, ants, termites multicellular organisms...

all of those organisms are entirely economic organisms. It is only humans who do things for uneconomical reasons

>termite
>civilization
user, it's time

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> Without government violence to keep the people from natural resource, capitalism couldn't exist. There is no time in history where capitalism didn't evolve with a tyrannical government enclosure plan.

Dead on. You see this even earlier than capitalism; agriculture wasn't possible without coerced labor on a then unprecedented scale. Look at a book called Against the Grain, pretty interesting

Sage this glowing shit

>Can Civilization exist without Currency?
>Could all of this had taken place and progressed to the level it has without a system of money?
There is a difference between something like paper currency and "money". Paper cash and coin only make up a small portion of the overall "money system".

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_supply

There's always a massive autismo like you around, mass-quoting the entire fucking thread. Glad you could join us this evening.

>biocommunism: the economy of eusocial organisms

upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7d/Atta.cephalotes.gamut.selection.jpg/220px-Atta.cephalotes.gamut.selection.jpg

so physically, functionally and behaviorally different ants share the same dna within a colony
this system is exactly like cells in an organism sharing the same dna, yet specializing in different function. as such, colonies are described as superorganisms because the ants appear to operate as a unified entity, collectively working together to support the colony/organism, much like cells operate in a unified entity, collectively working together to support the organism.

tl;dr ants/bees/termites mimic cellular organism society, individual ants act as specialized cells

the communist nature of this system is biologically dictated by dna in both cellular organisms and ant superorganisms

Money is a civil advancement, it allowed us to evolve from using the barter system

You would be capable of learning it in middle school through high school, which neither of you obvious passed. Reading, Writing, Mathematics, crafting, and processing would be taught from 1st grade to 5th. You both are a fine example of what our current education system produces.

Nice to see you again, /his/ has less knuckle draggers.

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It can but it would be shit. Bartering is a bitch

The love of money.
Absolute power corrupts.

Yes. Most people (peasants/workers) don't need money. They simply need to be provided with housing, food, and entertainment.

Bump

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It has before, but currency-based economies have always produced better results.

My primary problem with the entire thing is what you use to incentivise producers such as miners. That would be something that would be difficult to handle or do yourself and without slave labor the state would have a hell of a time convincing people to do it for the greater good.

Yes but the transfer of goods and services would be shit and making it difficult to expand commodities to enhance day to day life would be shit.